is so what are your future plans of going forward, especially the simple to take over the governor of the country. that is the immediate of just to actually one to me. as soon as possible. you a prominent antea party to a political figure in south africa who has been part of the african national congress, which has recently expelled you from that political party. we know that you've challenged this issue. i just wanna get what your views of because globally, you have been know to be part of the amc. but there is a long story about that. as that question. you purchase it, making think to purchase a very long, kind of an answer. especially as we have said, i joined

a and see to my young age instead because even before, quite honestly, i lied to the people who had to make me a member of the national congress. i was very young. just 17. when i joined the reason why i did so because the agencies in organization that was his deputies to liberate the portal for this country. and it was his deputies to, by the great leadership of the blood people use of ethics when there was a t a but they kind of behavior that he managed to from the british and the cons of the under blow.

it became very clear that the whites who had come to the free with taking over the country in terms of dublin and it was never to fit into the black lead as in south africa was included among others. traditionally does live in charge of the country that was taken from them. but secondly, the past us who are preaching here, as well as our land and people who came together to say we cannot be taken out of the participation of them in this country. as their wives had decided to do those within the lead. in part one of this, with the british who had the to lead to with the of the car on us to

allow themselves to take out the black people from and the lead us, you've seen instead of it. and it was assumed that somebody to that led to the blacks to say that as w one, pat, that we defend our own kind of insights. and that's how the african national congress was his deputies. and therefore every one wasn't member late that one the because life is life, i'm sure the political part does that to magazine one form of the ad to do the fest . the thing was that we should be out of an activity that determines those homeless around the country. it was a deliberate thing done by the people who just as i found us here,

living in peace. and that's why the start the headed to start in the do for then session at that time. now if that is a case, the amc therefore was my organization. and i grew within that part. and a 4th, and i joined the army when the medicaid to fight, which was now more the of the con us who and i was saying of the they want for the 1st of the elections. they said that they were going to apply what belongs to them in terms of the meetings that the black man is a black man, is not a complete human being on the wides way in human beings. and that led to us lead due to and i'm starting to fight him out

of that was owed him was to go back to way we were defending all countries from the beginning cause a long, very difficult and painful story of this country. no wonder that was done, then they indeed increased what was called full popularity known that the life in south africa between black and white was then send to migrate. the blacks seated the paint. the seed is that the people who are away with superior fluid in city, in whatever way, and therefore, ended up with a situation where there was been, quote, up update that there was dividing the whites and blacks that they cannot

be the say. and the a lot of details, how oppression increased from what did the bridges should have made it kind of a thing that to is sort of just saying you here with us. but the under us, that kind of stuff. so that led us to become free. don't fight husband's try good and it becomes such as it never if it is a long long what to call the main thing was i did set that for you must be free, must be equal. we must have everything in the same way as the white and the blacks. and therefore we had to to see 10 talk. how are we going to negotiate? and i think we agreed that to, to negotiate. and after negotiate,

we would make the country come together. it was, we've been fighting, killing one another as the one that i've many people it died didn't j, meadows or whatever. we had. the decision was taken, supported by the was that we need to bring peace inputs of the back to where it is supposed to be is it is act over that we decided the 1st 10 fest with the very difficult to do with this was the end the end of the problem among us was too deep, so it would make the, for us to, to be run in terms of government in the country by all of us.

all of us black and white patches that we lean, petite to lat number would then be the ones would be part of a government of that to be put together with called it government or from nationally unity. at the time tonight these people have been fighting for years. in other words, in the manner in which the agreements wouldn't be, would be soft to allow us to come together to allow to accept that we couldn't leave. to get after that 1st the case would have been allowed to potty the left after defense to the 2nd to the amc, the party we set up with the time we did not know if there was a new one. yeah. who would we would be the one who did then determine how this

country is that and the part to that managed was the amc, the freedom to for an example is a c document. if you look at the city s e twice, a quite a writes that way we attended to in for the don't chat. what the freedoms had to say is, wasn't that attended? and you'd have failed to vary for. that was time. we're going to address these. but the issue has never address of the day is now this, this is never been address. instead, we way going back. what's that other than going forward as this organization? now as the time when it was wedding, we finally ended up with

a situation where the lead that should that case was not alone that you've been thinking about anything. if anything you need to have to invest in many, many things as it kind of and amc colored and amc. i feel like kind of getting a political link to you at this point. his excellency, i do want you to touch on that issue. then on that and see that you mentioned that has made this journey to this point which is expelling to which you will part of you joined to an early age of 17 years old, which is now it's spelled you. i know you've tell us this issue, but what are your views about them? actually expanding that to like this? because i want to to have it the scene because people of times misinterpret fix it. really. that's what i'm going to come was that they do is they do at the

beginning that i'm being challenged in them. challenging people was part of this who stood them to kind of way in a way or to bed that we had all agreed. what do we need to do when we reship point away? my colleagues were no longer moving. when i was at some point in a given an opportunity to be the president of this country. because i was beginning to implement what i fought for what a 2 decision to die for the once a set. it was criticized some even a put allegations of corruption under your tenure exec exec and do not a single and has ever produced in a stickler for match that a stove anyway. is nothing you've been the man demanded wasn't anything it has said today because the wrong that tells you that everything that was done was cool

against me. probably in other people because of to now we've got to zoom. i know body has said this is what is a my deed which was the wrong method. i have even go into prison when i've never even appeared before, you might just do a little. the guy. i said it was all cool. so i don't want to get into that to and i'm just heading away, mackenzie, those would empower you are a political figure that has stuff those going around the country. you would have insights and some intelligence as to who cooked to say it was cool to buy those wedding charts. i don't want to be counting names of people. how many miles are on the issue for me. they know it themselves would have been with him a lie to nose inevitably to day or so no. okay. in this a health vision,

this doesn't matter. there's been statistics that tara related to have increased. this is, even though upfront was in some of these regions in africa to a system combat the g has it's now at the met the president of france. mr. mccarthy has come out to say that some of these african countries i'm grateful for the assistance that they have given to fight in africa. no, i disagree. i disagree. hotel. i'd seen that was, seems funds came to court and as of right has never made it. but if i talk about friends with this statement comes from when france was due quarter night, they decided to leave the army power for the in any place that did they

were in order to set precedent. if they did anything that was not seen for us to say thank to because they did not do what they were supposed to do. they decided that the resources, money would be determined in france on behalf of the africans with freed. yeah. i don't know what is what friends things about it. we should have said thank you very much to to come on monday and use the day i and, and have the soul just this is what does it lead to, to this and the cause. so is it wrong statement? it don't agree with it was it is not to have to us. the thing that says we are helping you or whatever not to have been us, does not agree that too we free will do what we want people

to live just couldn't that did, could you does it isn't the what they say with kind of have money in sense what kind of have the so just from france. yeah. when we were good though that you need service has you demanded just ok. he does not know how to let people have suffered from white people, particularly defense. so i don't even want to debate to that to and that was the one it would take me to the debates that a 2 flat i'm busy dealing with the situation here with it, but it is if i did it, but i just want to stay a little bit with regards to a funds. ted, i'm sure you agree with the statement that they've said, claiming that's my crunch is insulting the intelligence of african countries by insinuating that the ungrateful, i'm sure you agree with that stage,

of course is i'm agree and i did not want to get into the details i just wanted to say that's a little piece of wrong. we have stuff odd since the color. nice us after this day. that is what the, that's what that was saying that there was, i was answering the question that it is tied to of quite white's think about as i'm sure you also agree with senegal, and i've always close decision to what through the troops, funds troops in, in the regions? absolutely. i agree totally. in fact, it is too late. they should have done a long time ago because it is the wrong why the forces of a french country station in the of the country or somebody else. why is because they think that our 5, this is the thing that time has come. we can not blowing

a wait for that. so you're saying africa shouldn't be seen as a powerful continent that can call the shots for themselves. it sees it power for the continent, only despair to by the colonize us, who us the, the quarter nice and as you know, more than way they thing we cannot see. recently the u. s. secretary of state was lambasted for the u. s. a stance when it comes to the israel from us will or genocide, a few me. what do you think off? so that's because coming forward and defending the people of palestine and how it was going about to do with that by even going as far as finding a genocide case. no, i think that is an over the problem. we have that those little pressed, many is a go, i still pressed. those will be will see the power for just the using the

how for an example, the old would look at a country in the middle east. the way the things way. well, some of the kids with kids in the was the civil civilized world. absolutely said method. and that's it. even though the force of the people to say they must accept the men that invoice and they presented the story. how that must all come together. this is a problem that is phase the black people and also the people in the middle east. that if it was never been, it is, or whether you have the united nations, it is feed dealing with this much, this is affect it. and therefore,

i don't to and to say whereas and nice man has spoken to because they all talk about around the, their own area of satisfaction. they're not what it about anybody is. and if you add you, they force the q, we're not it right in this close. but it's like disclose because some people for an exam, we stay in africa. africa has the last, a lot of it is also taken by people from europe. and these didn't take them today is as if god said, you're leaving the area of i do go to of that to take what to one that come by means a huge companies from outside of its own. that is all says and

this doesn't belong to them. so it's also the baltics, the resources that in africa is that's it. and then they never bought it for the taking it as 3 days with mr. donald trump, president elect the president of america. do you think she's presidency? we'll see about a shift in policies related to these ongoing was which includes the from us and is while conflict with the i think the the, the zip codes united states of america has said something with regards to the war in flesh.

right. very clear. i haven't had them about to come through other settings whether that has been it clear seeing that there must be the end of benches or however it is one among the few quips that something that makes sense. i think you said we cannot use the money to fight that will invest you when of go to boot the boot in a condo, it can then not too many who have said so, but you have said you have said that we, we take, that would take note of that because it is important but as to betsy's in the middle east and not just is open. i don't think i've had with just into that to

some but that was as the thing was comes in that i have made. but mrs. speaking about mr. donald trump, he has recently made threats against a bricks. members of briggs had asked me to stay in particularly saw that because threatening them to impose tara of hikes if they've continued their relations with countries like russia and china. when you have such threats from the west on africa and how it conducts its business and how, like you say, deals with its resources with other countries. what do you think when you hear those threats? no, that is part of the problem. we have part of the problem, we have why should a country? so the 2 countries in africa as it was talking to do some more boys to come to this, i'm going to do x. why is it going to see something wrong with? why?

because a country should do what it wants to do as i says. so that's a problem. i had been talking about all the time because you have a country with his own disorders and everything which says this country is i might look the ones you can do this with somebody as we're going to be in trouble. why that is taught that there's something going wrong in the minute in which the countries seats this, the big country is that that's more the countries that, that say that to be probably not as, as, as big as is whatever. why should that happen? why should a person try to new a new, take the own decision? whoever releases or some people they knew must be taken into some providence. why

that's why should that be the case? i don't think we need that. this is what we're saying is of again, we don't need, you know, when, so definitely i joined. thanks. we haven't talked about those much that it was highly important for us among other things was to deal with this very issue that the countries that must be like in prison. and because of the west is in a sense dealing with these countries. and the attempt is that we cannot deal with now, is that correct? it's not correct, but it's brought something new for them to try to bring it quality part of the lives. and then they continue one day,

not today, but there was a deliberate dwight who ended up with the war unless it is because it was in countries with chain to put down breaks. if you know, what did they beat in that to now, medic endured. he even went to prison when he had no case a case that was his deputies. this man is he's out to now because they decided to say there's literally one. let us do it in order to also to set up to this, they change the, the party in india of the and the forces that another type must come in. so that's usually choose the part that was joining critics. that was

probably, i moved to the experience of that part of the lives and that was the move in full finishing my tim was also dealing with the brakes. they put to the new it's been pause. so media to say china was going down, the cutting on me blah, blah blah, lies and felt that last year must be a tech part of that is part of what it's is coming in to be. we haven't talked about it as much as a lot because that is not been the issue to talk about. but i'm just saying you'd be with the lesson countries who are always causing trouble always may to other people get into trouble when the kids are not supposed to be. now, what is happening to them?

because of the i to that she, that she has said, sorry, well good the or the yeah. and to ever one. so is going to use the russian money to know that change the word somewhere to boss many other punches that of to begin to say we have the brakes. pizza now has more with a 40 members. so not it only if you have a group in the books can you put in this into senate the donald trump's return to the white house is world historic by any measure. the 47th

president has the advantage of being the 45th. on top of that, he won the popular vote. the house amend. what does he have in store for the the german soldiers to deal with the weather when will taking the picture? they were proud of the muscle by the way, to go in your mouth because i didn't recommend your opinion or no. but he got dirty with. or i actually was you like you on google, more guy and with and then almost a week ago. and then we'll get to bundle the, i'm done the general say to us, love to the screen. but this, this indeed reality. last has never been did you purchase a i did you please give us

a time to time prize size and call you to do this to yourself. it's just as fast as you can v as in. and so this is a very bold decision by the gym and government to even stop. because when the agreement was reached, gena, they did more divisions and more and got more questions or more of those they are using to pay us what they are giving us just go to the pollution countries . and now we have not been supportive calls. what has been happening here? it will open the ponder as books, the next thing it will be them for then also have to pay the the, the,

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