and then also have to be the the, [000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to cross spots where all things are considered. i'm peter level as promise, donald trump is off to the races. the new president is not wasted time on doing biden's legacy and moving ahead with such issues as immigration. he has a mandate to govern penny. keep his diverse base behind him and will the ruling elite submit

the cross talking trump, i'm joined by my guess, patrick headings and in plymouth. he is editor and founder of the 21st century wire in northern. we have co ends alone. he is an opinion editor at anti war dot com, as well as co host of conflicts of interest. and in los angeles, we cross a wrongful clone. he is a comedian and filmmaker whose movie left that wall comes out january 24th across multiple platforms. gentlemen, cross lock rolls and the fact that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate, let me go to patrick 1st and plymouth. he wasn't supposed to be elected in 2016. he wasn't supposed to be elected in 2024, but here we are. okay. and we have the vantage point that he was 45th and now he's 47, but i still really don't have a clear idea of what he wants to do. because as i mentioned in my introduction as a very diverse base maggie is whatever you want it to mean, i think a lot of people voted that way. so give me

a checklist of the 1st few days to visit ministration. is he's been signing his name a lot. go ahead, patrick. sure, sure, peter. yeah, i mean, the 1st thing is, this is, this is the, the trump governing in 2025 is very different than the trump that would have been governing in 2021. and so we can see with all of that time with the controversy of the last election and him being kind of there and off as just controlling the, the republican party and the democratic part of the bite and white house. and coming in really with a vengeance with an agenda and with something to prove in a way that i think it will also with a little bit of escape velocity from the the hold that they had upon him in 2020, with all of the different impeachment scandals and so forth. he's, he's had time to break free of that and he's on least himself, on this in the executive orders. he's showing he's coming good on on major campaign promises. january 6,

amnesty for all of the j 6 years. hitting back at big tech censorship and government censorship as well. whole range of executive orders that i think are the i the, the anti woke agenda is basically dead. affirmative action is dead now. there's going to be a lot of legal challenges with birth rights, citizenship, death penalty for legal. so it's taking a lot of this is going to get tied up in the courts in the next couple of years. but on the main stuff, i think he's come out pretty hard and strong and so he's made the statement. now the real business of governing begins, and this is the tricky part there. and so we'll see how it plays out. yeah, the real business of governor, i'm glad you put it that way. uh, kyle: uh, patrick used the word unleashed himself. okay. but lot of those things said patrick mentioned not all of them, but a lot of them are cultural. it's a cultural shift. we've seen that and we've seen the public receptive to that. i mean, donald trump has higher ratings now than he's ever had in public running as

a politician or in office. how long that will last. i don't know. i don't think it's gonna last for long. but kyle, all of us with this pro, and we talked a lot of a lot about foreign policy. patrick's right. he signed his name on a lot of executive orders, but as far as foreign policy concerned. well, you know, maybe we shouldn't expect too much in the 1st week, but he's kind of wobbly. i would say, particularly when it comes to ukraine, one of his signature issues route running for re election. yeah, i think there's some good news and some bad news here. i think if you want to look at the positive, he took the $51.00 signatories of the hunter by the end laptop letter, which was the course use. do you know it have a live censorship on that new york post story just before the 2020 election and in the executive order. trump specifically says this is because the intelligence community interfered in the 2020 election. and so trump, in 2016 never seemed to really see understanding was never really able to

articulate what the intelligence community did to him with the rush it gave saga he was just wrapped up in it. and of course, it didn't have to be a libertarian. like myself that he, you know, he could have used era my pay, michael tracy. mad tie, you'd be to explain this to the american people and he was just never able to do so . and so i think this is active orders and pretty good sign. also removing the security clearance and the security detail from john bolton, another good sign and then he also fired brian huck from the wilson center which was a good sign. however, you also put brian hook in charge of staffing his state department. and so now we have marco rubio as the secretary of state. and so, you know, with trump, it's always got to be a mixed bag. i think him identifying who his enemies are, is a good thing because those are our enemies as well. why be intelligence? community is the true enemy of the american people. they have trump is going after

them for his own personal reasons. it's still a good thing for us. the problem is, does he really understand how deep this goes and when he has eco ruby on the lights of those people around him? you would think he probably doesn't. yeah, rhonda, i mean it's, we're in the situation is the glass half full or half empty. i think kyle is guided spot on here because you know, for all the differences and my goodness were all different from jo buying. okay. that's not hard. okay. but i mean, you know, coming back down to earth here. um, is there really a significant difference? okay. then the demons have their billionaires apparently. now the republicans have their billionaires, i think be the left side charge. the trump is too close to the bill. you know? well, that's ridiculous. okay. and i said earlier in reaction to patrick, a cultural shift, but is there a power shift, ron, or i would say no, there is not a power shift that ma'am,

and you look at what trump is done so far. who is the, is surrounding himself with and, and i, i just think a lot of these kind of claims for the positive or just a lot of smoke and mirrors. they say, oh trumps. going to rain and big tech. really easy. let's look at his uh, naca ration name. he was surrounded by mark soccer bird. he was surrounded by you on mosque, you would surrounded by the ceo of tick tock, which by the way, that was a huge gift to donald trump by democrats and republicans. that whole tick, tock, band issue was just the absolute, seen up all big nonsense. and then they gave the gift to trump cuz he got to look like the good guy by saving it. what a lot of people don't realize is that piece of policy gave trump, or whoever's president the ability to just band any for an app that they don't like . so he kind of has this new file power. so because of that, he has big tech case. it up to them, so he's not going to rain any of that in on foreign policy. a lot of it is just

more of the same and already has been on a lot of these executive orders. he's going to have a lot of messages ahead of them in particular, with some of these terrified years. i don't think anyone really thought that through these antagonizing canada, we get a lot of energy from canada. we also get a lot of our lumber from canada, and now you're going to have a lot of canadian stores that aren't going to have any american products on their shelves. this is going to make a lot of big businesses, the united states pretty mad, especially some beer companies. uh so yes and thought any of this through a lot of this stuff you inherited foreign policy wise. of course, you can't just point your finger at him. he's only been president for a day or so. a lot of that is the heretic legacy of joe biden. but to get to the central question, is there really much of a change here? not really. and that's kind of what you get when both teams, both political teams have the same wall street sponsors. yeah. well it patrick, you know, if it's more of the same,

that might explain the whole thing with greenland and canada and panama. i mean, you know, it, it's the empire eating itself as it were. okay. i mean, these are not adversaries. okay. but i think good plays well to the base. i suppose . i mean, trump didn't vote president mckinley of all presidents. there is a non year old. the greatest imperialist of american history. i mean, i don't know if the, the public understood that, but i mean, is this kind of, you know, bait for the bass. patrick, it's very interesting. you know, take those 2 issues, greenland and the panama canal. well, both of those issues are tied to china and russia, geo, politically, talking about the art, the arctic passage, the new, the northern trade route, that's basically greenland positioning itself for, you know, the united states vision. there's completely essential to maintaining dominance over this new geo political choke point. and then down at the panama canal, the,

there's a whole bunch of projects including the nicaragua, lake and canal, and then mexico's doing a transit core door as well. and it's going to have huge commercial facilities on both ends. so you're talking about potential industrial core door to rival, anything in north america that could come on line and mexico, china being at, you know, running point with mexico and other countries on that. so as the these are real geo political, i think big agenda items. so you think this is actually i think one of the more pragmatic and realized yeah. oh sure. yeah. you have a real i'm glad you took the word right from me. but kyle: so we went from this kind of liberal order of uh, a blinking, you know, defending had gemini. and while we're going to have realism defending had gemini, i mean, they'd still had gemini, kyle? yeah, well i think realism is the best we can, whole born is far gone, but more like a neoconservative imperial list agenda, and the trouble of ministration versus

a realistic agenda. i know there's been some good appointments by looking overall top down. you got marco rubio and people like that. i think the foreign policy is largely going to remain the same. the difference is going to be rhetorical. you know, does trump, uh, how much does he support israel, how him happy se, about supporting israel. it's not going to change from trump versus by then. i think maybe the greenland thing is a good example of the drums out would be in different than bivens where, you know, the international world order says you can change borders, but trump sees a change the world he sees greenland being up north to having a territory in the arctic circle and understands that as the, you know, ice cap melts if it melts, then that's going to create, you know, new negotiations over trade routes and how the more lee i did the art at circle means that the us gets more leverage up there also, if you started looking at the globe, you know, from the north point it down, you see how close russia is to greenland and things like that. and so i think that's kind of trump's view point there. yeah,

well i'm finding would probably try more soft power to build military base. is there what, what advantage going to, what about a compromise just negotiations instead of taking it over a gentleman, i have to jump in here. we have to go to a hard break, and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on the new trump administration. save the show. seemed wrong. just don't have to shape house after kids and engagement because the trail when so many find themselves worlds of parts, we choose to look so common ground the

the see the silver the somebody. how can it be that um the ship to the middle east from a country whose top officials constantly complain about shortages of munitions and military equipments through a little bit of boston locally. and then the new system and located along the nominal facility or some of those other slash we, i'm about to the easiest to to know, you know, so what are the easiest number, mobile bubbles, a sort of wellness that will kind of get used to have gone on now, well, why are weapons from ukraine spreading over the world? to turn this country into a major arms hub, will continue to bolster ukraine's and forces by rushing them occasionally use that they need to defend their country. the everyone knows very well that we don't sell but known as pineapples or any kind of children's toys. we sell women's. yes. we're also known in the world as items dealers that we must not be ashamed of them.

the or the welcome ex, across stock were all things are considered. i'm peter roosevelt. to mind you were discussing the new trump presidency. the okay, it's go back to ron in los angeles. you know, run one of the, one of the, the, at least in my mind, the most important legacy of binding is the genocide in gaza. that's what his administration will go down in history for now i'm the pro and this program over the last few months. i regret raise the spectre of having the stance of genocide on your legacy and trump doesn't want that. that's been my position near people disagreed with me. so i trump doesn't care one way or another. that remains to be seen here, but that cease fire deal is quite interesting. there are a lot of different versions of how it came about,

the official line. i always reject out of hand until i have more information. but i mean, it seems that uh, trump is aware of that. if you can continue um, throwing people off their land, you can continue the genocide just don't have it. so public can trump the even mentioned that during the campaign. i don't think he has any loyalty to netanyahu, and all he has, he sees it is real as an ally, of course, he's everyone to the person is designed. this is an is and ministration here, but i think he's sensitive to that and he will act accordingly. go ahead run. i agree with what you said about, you know, jo biden's, legacy being the genocide and gosh, i agree with that. a 100 percent, a 110 percent the by the ministration was putrid on that. i do not share your optimism about donald trump. i think when it comes to foreign policy any prove this in his 1st term,

donald trump is just all about whoever he surrounds himself with. and as usual, he surrounding himself with the same warmongers. he campaigned as a peace president the 1st time in 2016 and he ended up dropping a lot of bombs in his 1st term. great. the ceasefire situation was very interesting because you saw both joe biden and donald trump tried to take credit for it. even though neither one of them actually supported it. since then the ceasefire has been violated multiple times. you can't pin all of that on trump again. that falls on the bottom ministration to donald trump's only been present in for a few days, but to cease fires and violated multiple times, none the less also the trump administration has lifted sanctions as, as it is banking. i think my real concern here is that with the complet in gaza, trump could potentially end a kind of by shooting from the hip, because the us has so much leverage over israel. and so it doesn't,

it's not as complex to and because we could just threaten to withhold the weapon shipments and then israel would have to comply, you know, is rarely generals have even said they could waves a born guys a for one or 2 months without us support, but that's it. and now they're waging a war in the west bank. why the non syria? yeah, i mean, and so the idea that they could do this without us support is completely ridiculous . now. so maybe somebody shows trump pictures a dead, paused indian children, and he just has a moment and declares that no more a to israel and leslie, not this off. i doubt that happens. but maybe that happens. you seems more interested in ending the warranty ukraine. but that's in incredibly complex, not to i do. i mean a lot of these things that are on rush, i require congressional improve life to take off. and so if we're going to end is complet, trump actually needs congress to go on with it. do you think, i mean, he has a 51 majority in the senate. do you think there's 123 republican sanders,

who won't vote to remove us sanctions on russia? and so i don't think dropped, you know, the bureaucratic understanding. they actually get a deal done with ukraine, and i think that's really unfortunate. and the buying the ministration did a lot in their trump didn't seem programs. right. sure that i think for 69 months ukraine does have a quite a stockpile of weapons that'd be transferred to nato countries that are going to get to you to go out to ukraine. and i think what they're hoping for is that they could get this long enough since 9 months that now trump feels like it's his war that he wants to. well, it's not for said put it in. all right, good. it's all ready. his war, everybody. it's already his war. i would just point out everyone that a trip was in peach for uh, stopping arms to ukraine. what do you think they're going to do to him if he does a to is for you? run another important issue here. trump ran on freedom of speech and i liked what he had to say during the campaign. i also like seems like

a bird tower in front of the administration, for reasons that we would agree with that. but what, but what about the pro palestinian protests and what about, you know, um weapon icing the speech against descent on that issue here. that remains to be seen. pam bondi. well, we're going to see what she's going to do. it's not all roses gentleman. go ahead, run. yeah, it's kind of interesting to me when that when people make it out, like by trump is some free speech warrior. i mean, yeah, he says some nice things, but then actions kind of say, otherwise, i mean the crack down on protest incredibly hard. a lot of people like to forget that trump actually put the country under martial law at some point. you also have the, again, the tick tock situation that i know came up last time. they're looking to kind of give that to an american company that will probably perform the same types of censorship that you see across social media. and let's be honest, one of the big reasons,

but tick tock bang came to the surface in the 1st place. the big reason why is because a lot of democrats and republicans have money invested in domestic software and stuff like that. and another big reason was, a lot of young people were spreading messages about palestinian rights against the genocide and the united states couldn't control the algorithm. and they didn't like that. so they're going to try to find a situation where they can control the algorithm. so again, you're kind of seeing more the same and you bring up zocker berg. i mean, this is a guy who i think just kind of gives this up to whoever's in the white house. yep. when there was a bite and white house, he was all about okay, we're going to censor the way the dnc tells us to. and then we're just going to feed people, whatever their political bias is, to keep them on facebook. so you're either going to get a left wing while i'm doing quotes left wing perspective or a right wing perspective within the confines of what we allow and look for every q and non article or whatever that makes sense. or they've probably sense or 2 or 3

pro palestine pieces, uh, and anti war pieces. so again, it's just more of the same there. i mean, every now and again, he'll have some interesting talking points and then you find him doing the complete opposite. and this goes far beyond donald trump, i mean, and, and you all mentioned how a, what if there's an incentive for him to be hockey? so there's going to be just like, oh yes i, they called him presidential when he dropped bombs on syria. so then the bombs continued, we're going to see the same thing this time around and that goes beyond any one administration that goes beyond trump. that goes beyond by and that goes be, and obama that goes beyond budge. but you're seeing more and well it is a, it's a it's, it's about the empire here. a patrick. so the overton window is not going to be enlarged here. last 30 seconds. go to you, my friend. i think in the short term, i think it is, it is, but it's got,

i think it's going to take this stablish man. it's going to take the big tech world, the main street at the time to conform to this new reality. there's definitely a power shift. it's taking place. big tech. the digital oligarchy is right there, front row seat in the new administration. new establishment is taking shape right now. so we'll see how things react. but it's going to be ex, credibly interesting. there's lot a lot that's going to be in flux in this 1st 12. well, as i said on this program, we're going to give the 100 days the 100 days. okay. and maybe i'll see all 3 of you again during that 100 days. as all the time we have one to thank my guest in plymouth, los angeles, and in norton. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our dc and next time remember prospect the the

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the i'm option or it has the welcome back to going underground, broadcasting all around the world from the heart of them at least with thanks to donald trump for a few days, at least the people of guys that have slept without constant u. k. u. s. c, u umd, aerial bombardment. they have suffered for 16 months today, marks the chevy old 2nd phase of the multi step ceasefire agreement between israel and the palestinian resistance forces with an exchange of prisoners. it will be celebrated as a victory for palestine given the agreement as boarding what was demanded after the attacks from kaiser on october. the 7th. all this, of course, comes of the world, waits to see if the 47th presidents all the as a the old trump really seeks a peaceful world. within minutes of you know, your ration. he had cancelled abiding administration restrictions on the export of 2000 pound bombs. and that's and you know, all week israel owned by brittany, you and usa has been targeting the occupied westbank in palestine that area

recording the trump's pick for us. i'm back to the, to the you in at least the phonic is any way is rails because she believes in neutral scripture of the un security council resolutions. some of you can watch trump's pick for deputy assistant to the president and senior director of the counter terrorism. sebastian gorka, who we interviewed on going underground in the past few weeks. he declared there was no such thing as palestinians. so how did trump get netanyahu to pull is the bombing i promised of. i meant, full scale invasion of palestine, a war on iran, and will be us remove forces from syria and will the usa finally stop funding the nazis of ukraine and terminate nato. while the so called deep states may support his policies on israel, and is new secretary of state, marco rubio, who has indicated support a was on cuba, venezuela, nicaragua, and china trumps perspectives elsewhere. i know chad is if to preemptively attack the military industrial complex ex national intelligence director, james kappa,

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