the hello and welcome to worlds a part 3 turn of donor trunk to the white house. certainly opens up a new chapter in the american political drama. that's got the many around the world fatigue with its high page flash, fairfax, and at times previous case ethics. well, this reality show amber and down american politics come back to the founding authentically practiced values of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. both to discuss that i'm now enjoying by getting a professor of history at american university. professor cruz think is great to see you again. thank you very much for your time. i have to be with you. now. i know that you looked expensively into the history of the american presidency in, but i think the united states more than any other country. you can sort of draw conclusions about the state of the society based on the kind of personalities that

i'm buying for power in this sense. what do you think the 2nd coming of trump signifies? was interesting that i use a term 2nd coming, because i was the image that trump gave in his inaugural address that somehow got it saves him. and god's purpose was to make america great again. and trump places vessel for doing so. many people who support him tend to express a similar kind of attitude. they do, they're very and advocated. they're also a lot of people who think he is the 2nd coming of saying i'd be closer to the 2nd camp. then to the 1st camp, and maybe there was something very, very different about donald trump as president. and in some ways we have to separate his domestic policy, hopefully from his foreign policy. although we base that on his 1st term and office that stuff. so there,

i wouldn't be so condescending all of donald trump and he has base simply because of their ability to put forth a more educated candidates. somebody who can argue, or um, you know, a somewhat different point of view from the mainstream has been rather constrained . was it not? i mean, to some extent trunk is you cannot say an argument, but still the child some time every component to assist him while he is the bastard, se epstein of the american political system in that regard. he's manages to, he has a lot of popularity in certain sectors in his base is iron type means that no matter what he does, he said he could shoot somebody in broad daylight on 5th avenue and he wouldn't lose a single vote. so you know that that base of his will stick with him and they believe in him. we as so far, it doesn't seem that no matter what he does,

he's going to lose them. but the power of the guy, let me just interject here a little bad because we have have a lot of advocate that you know, highly polished american leaders like president obama, who will don't speak such a foul language. what don't give speeches about, you know, shooting somebody in broad daylight. i mean, yes, they are responsible. historically, they're responsible for, you know, many, many people dying as a consequence on the policy is. so, you know, trump being flashing in his rhetoric, but rather modest than his war fighting isn't that bad, right? then somebody left say, educate if, if long fingers. so f, aesthetically looking, but, you know, launching words the launch cold countries into the dark ages. what you could make a good case that biden's policies foreign policy was terrible. that bite and

did mel its help militarize of the planet. and that trump is sometimes sounds like he's going to be a peacemaker. it isn't argue i'll address. he's that i want to be a peacemaker. then he went on to say that he wants to take back to kind of, aka, now, he went on to lie about it and he said that china run sick and now it doesn't. he said that 38000 americans died building that canal to see here that we have is 5600 americans. and he said we're going to take it back. you know, so what, what, what is trump? is it just says, rhetoric, or is it the ugliness that he's views? i will have to say, i'm hoping i'm giving him the benefit of the doubt that maybe he'll do something better. visa v, russia and ukraine. visa v, the middle east and visa of a china i. but during his 1st term it office is policy toward china was very high.

so he just had a trade war with china. he was sanction china as a sanction russia. and you have to remember if you want to talk about it honestly, who is the one who gave me full a to ukraine? it was an obama obama refused to do so. a bomb is said, ukraine is much more strategic interest of russia than the united states. you refuse to give them the full aid from comes in. they're not only increasingly, sanctions russia, but gives legal aid to ukraine. so there's a lot of blame to go around and almost all these american presidents, since kennedy, have a lot of blood on their hands now. um you rose before and that it was trumps. anti war stands that was one of the under played factors that pushed him to his election victory. and i wonder, what do you exactly mean by anti war is

a sort of sounds against war or spence against spending on the war. oh, as a good question, what i said during the campaign is the fact that the democrats have become so weak, so corrupt, so taken over by neo cons and war hawks, that's from good position sitting in south during the campaign as the peace candidate. and the pro working class candidate means that the world is upside down . and american politics are upside down. but, but as on the very big critic of the democratic party, what has happened to the democratic party, what they've turned into. but i'm also a big critic of donald trump, although he did say some good things during the campaign. he said that, you know, that would, the ukraine war is a very stupid more in terms of everybody's interest. and we need to bring it to an

end as quickly as possible. i agree with him. that would be wonderful. but you heard what zalinski said yesterday at davos is said that he wants $200000.00 troops, including us troops in order to come to a peace settlement. while the united states is not about to put thousands of troops into ukraine and put in, is never going to accept that. and so, and so what zalesky is saying, now we don't know what trump's response is going to be at. but from did threatened to russia and threatened russia is as a fresh, it hasn't come to the bargaining table. and we don't know what the deal trump was simply cut is that he's getting to increase the sanctions. good increase arm. so ukraine, i'm a rush to pay a prize is already talking about the energy sanctions, more energy sanctions against russia over the course of the that they have been so many rounds of sanctions are all the against russia by the united states. but you

know, uh, quite a few of us here uh, rather skeptical in the us ability to her. that's much more. but this is a very important issue that you are raising because all of us, we do have many of us. so please have relatives in ukraine, you know, our economy, our society is suffering from the strong conflicts and definitely claim there is a, you know, she monitoring the konami's political, cultural spiritual need to put in on to absolutely. because because let me say, if this work continues and that is 6 months, and that's 12 months from the perspective of the ukrainian people, they're gonna be in worse shape. rush is going to take more ukrainian territory. they're going to be tens, hundreds of thousands more dead and wounded on both sides, and the economies are going to be hurt. so i've been continuing this floor is not in rushes interest. it's not a ukraine's interest. it's certainly not in america's interest,

except those americans want to see russia weekend. but the only ones who profit from this are the merchants of death, the military manufacturers. and at the one from says he was saying, a nato to increase its military spending from 2 percent to 5 percent of g d p. mean, that is exactly the opposite direction that the world needs to go. in fact, the united states, if the u. s. were going to increase to 5 percent of g d page. you guys would have to spend that additional $500000000000.00 a year, but front to so ignorant. he doesn't know that or doesn't care. now he may be even around, but there are a lot of people around him who may have hear me suggest some policy and that may look appealing to him, but in the medium wrong would be the true mental. and what i'm talking about here is that from b, it's clear that he doesn't want to spend more americans bias on the cranium

conflict. but there are lots of analysts will sort of suggest that he should try to have the, over the financing on this conflict to the europeans, which would keep your, of tied to washington and russia tied up in a low intensity conflict. what does that be? a good deal uh for the americans. do you think it would be sold to trump up to trump of ministration? as a good deal? o trump will sell, and if he does a good deal at it, just make up the facts as he goes along because he doesn't care about truth. however, it would be a terrible deal for the american people. what's in the america's interest right now is a peaceful world, a world in which the united states, i guess, along with russia and china, and it n a rod and even north korea. and we stop this war mongering on a global scale. put and as indicated in response to some things that trump said

that he wants to talk to the united states about cutting back on nuclear weapons. so we need is that kind of vision, those kind of actions, you know, as much as you hear me is a critic of trump. i was just in oslo, i was a member of the, the holland hidalgo delegation to the nobel peace prize. i nominated them for the nobel peace prize. i said of trump will eliminate nuclear weapons and create a more peaceful world. i'll nominate him for the nobel peace prize. you know, so i'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. if he is going to do good things, but i see what he's doing already inside the united states, and it's making a cooler, vindictive, painful, you know, all the country inside united states is he going to be able to add globally in a different way so far i'm not seeing it, it looks like many people around the world. our many leaders are trying,

including yourself. i trying to talk come up with the sort of own way of dealing with the paradox. all of tromp. i mean you are in the good company here because president put in just a couple of hours ago i described donald trump press print, magic and trustworthy. and he actually said that he agrees with strong, despite old, as someone black mailing rupturing that's been heard from trump. over the last couple of days, he said that he agrees with chung that have he'd been in office, the ukraine consumer would that would have never started on the. so there was this kinetic phase of it would have never proceeded. do you take that as a sort of as an effort by put into flatter and perhaps, and donald trump, or do you think indeed that they may be some historical on joe political basis for such kind of argument? you know, it's one of those counter factual is that we'll never know by that and have every opportunity to try to come to an agreement with russia

before the invasion. you know, i, i agree that this should never have happened. and that the expansion of nato to russians doorstep was a stupid policy as a per, parochial, and also a blind policy on the part of biden, and of nato and of ukraine. so is it possible that if the trump had been in there that they would've made a deal? you know, trump likes to make deals, but you have to remember that from doesn't like to make equal deals. trump bikes to the chinese talk about when, when, when, when diplomacy, the americans think in terms of a 0 sum game, we win and you lose. trump said the americans, we get tired of winning,

we're going to win constantly. and he's saying the same thing again. i've heard from people who like trump, who voted for trump, who are now are sick and by what they've seen already. and it hasn't even been in office a week yet. so is it possible? yes. what did have been doable? absolutely, and that and trumpet is not motivated. he has no sense of compassion. he has no sense of every body benefit a he wants american to be great again to dominate, but he wants to do so in a way that i think is not only bullying minis even trying to bully russia. it doesn't work with latin airport and let me stop here here because this is a fascinating subject that to me will come back to you. after a short break inspection, the the,

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a better world. and is it just because it shows you fractured images? present it is fast. can you see through their illusion going underground? can the welcome back to wells, the parts miss peter cruz nick, professor of history of american, the university professor. and just before the break, you were talking about tom's liking to do deals and sell them a very fun boy ansley. and yet, i think there, there is a, an openness, at least on the russian side, on the russian present side to engage in some sort of consultations. but i see here a major sort of foreign versus substance problem because russian doesn't need just any kind of deal. rushing means

a very detailed deal uh with every little thing of thoughts through. and we have some security guarantees that if it will be upheld not only by trunk, but by successive administrations. and letting me put, and we know he's very meticulous about things like that. whereas donald trump doesn't seem to have much skill or much, much patience for this kind of approach. do you seeing these differences of personality of style, all fun, you know, governing and feel also so you do you think they can be overcome? yes, i do think they can be overcome. may not because donald trump is getting a change, but because it is possible for him to have statesmen around him who can do it right now. it's not looking like it. if you look at the people he's nominated or pointed, they're not the kind of people who can carry out this kind of deal. for example,

his choice from the secretary defense, pete, the perverted hague, says, you mean to, can you imagine there was the 19th century word that because the cactus doctor say, which means government by the worst people. and that seems to be a bad trump is doing. is excess, is not a competent in any way to be secretary defense. he would be even worse then from in terms of making this kind of arrangement. so is it possible? yes, but he would need different kind of people. what we see happening is that he's replacing firing all the career civil servants who have not been following up and supporting his policies. so we see a across the board sweeping a firing of compet in people, and he's going to replace them with these sick of fans. and heidi logs, america,

people, and these are for the most part, not very confident people, even when it comes to china. he's been saying much more conciliatory things towards china, but look at the people he's bring in there. these are the china hawks, but mark, everybody knows professor cruz and canada guys make a suggestion here because america prides itself on being a democracy. and it's true that some of his appointment choices rather unorthodox diplomatic, but you have a vibrant, i can demick business and scientific community is the time for some of those people with not only with reputation but to expertise, to come forward and offer something not to rely only on the presidential office, but for example, on issues of you can dissolve them and the pension is ready to discuss with the trunk. you know, you have a lot of people knowledgeable people who can come forward and suggest something.

yeah, absolutely. and most of them are very, very disappointed with what's happened so far. i know that i was given him the benefit of the doubt. i went on tucker across the show with oliver stone. you know, we talked about all the potential there is now, but even tucker carlson was very worried about the neo conservatives who trump was pointing to because they know and we know that they're gonna to get a try to persuade him not to do the better things that he was talking about being peace around the world. but again, to try to persuade him to pursue the america 1st american hegemony. that agenda. and so you have there are good people. but when we look at trump's a nuclear policies, there is 1st term in the office that they're very, very disappointing. where they found 1st the 1st discussion you have to put in said

let's extend the new star treaty. trump puts down the phone and asked the people, what's the new star treated even though they've got so on? it says, no, it's a bad tree that we don't want to extend that at a pull the united states out of not only the new star treaty, which you refuse to extend there. also the i n f treaty and to meet her as nuclear forces treaty. the help is guys treaty the j. c p, a way, the array of nuclear deal, which russia was instrumental in helping secure a trump. when he was told that a meeting that the u. s. had dramatically lowered the nuclear arms 5 number of nuclear arms. we have from the peak at night 1886 down to the numbers we have now. trump said i want to increase our nuclear arsenal reference. i stay of frustration to repair a new president, but it's not our fault. the police said this, this time around. i mean, this is the american society that point this person into office and, you know, i, that's why i ask you, these brought a question before the, the, about the,

you know, the personality of the president, reflecting the state of the society. and i've been, uh, you know, sort of exploring the american approach to public relations for quite some time i, i cited in the united states and it always has not been fascinating, but scared me how much the americans are willing to take perception for reality. and there you even have a slogan, i think a that goes back to one of the ronald reagan. so i'm going to advise that are saying that, that it's possible that we know from scientific causing to start is that, you know, there is a consequence to it. and when people do that on the repeated basis, um, broadly within the society, and that leads to not only a loss of touch with reality, but even in mild psych costs as having to go through what you have practiced only in the most out with the ranges form i would say that a lot of it has to do with the media. and that 1st that from voters tended to be

low information voters, the less educated people in society. and they watch fox news and they listen to a lot of social media. and they're getting a view of things. however, you have to remember that trump has a certain kind of performance. and by the end of his 1st administration, he was very unpopular. his approval ratings were quite low. people gotten tired of his stick. and when he ran for re election bite and beat him by 7000000 candidates, 7000000 votes by that, and who was never a good candidate who would want to be president for decades, was able to beat him by 7000000 votes cuz people have gotten so tired of him, and now they're seeing what they have forgotten. you know, the point one of the points you're making is that americans have very little memory as joe and live a former chinese premier. i said, why did it try me?

things about the americans is they have absolutely no historical memory. people can't remember 4 hours ago let alone 4 years ago, but now they're being reminded why they dislike donald trump so much. and the honeymoon that president scared when they come to office is gonna be over very quickly because he hasn't done anything to help his as base his voters to really do need help. they were hurt by installation. and what he's doing, instead, they didn't want him to release the violent criminals from january 6th. the was to beat police officers. and trump was too lazy to even do differentiate between the violent ones and the and violent ones. he said f it really small, you know, this is not what his base wanted. if you want to see something very, very different than what he's doing. at this point,

i think the american people are going to be tired of it very quickly. and that within 2 years, the republicans are going to lose in both houses unless they separate themselves much more from this, these policies and push back old professor cruz make a left me taking issue with your point that it's primarily a trunk low advocate and based that's for, for these kind of political and historical stands, i'm sure you saw a trunk recent post about the russians, supposedly housing, the americans to win world war to losing 60000000 lives in the process. i'm sure you know the appear in the rush, or we see it in a totally different way that we were helped by the americans and we paid for it. you know, the land police wasn't free of charge, but my question is, why do you think this theme of world war to victory keeps resurfacing and why do

you think it's not only a trump supporters but you know, respective students? i feel classes also seem to fall for it. yeah, this is not only americans, europeans, also in the surveys across europe, only 17 percent of the european surveyed think that the russians played an important role in winning world war 2. and frances, down to 7th sense, as so my students are not outliers in that regard. the americans are todd that we won world war 2. the reality is, you know, and i know is that the russians were the ones who defeated nazi, germany of and that throughout most of the war, us and britain and phase 10 german divisions between us. while of russia face more than $200.00 german divisions. and so, as churchill even admitted is the red army that tor, the gods, out of the german war machine. but in america,

but the world doesn't learn much history, history is very politicized. and the americans learned american meds, the russians learn more history. but i learned a lot of russian is the chinese, the jeff japan, oliver stutter. i. what we did are sticking to our in japan. we titled some of our talks in an article he wrote us in japan partners in historical falsification. i see all the countries doing this, and i think it's dangerous, especially when it comes to talking about world war 2. if we don't learn the lessons of the past, we're going to repeat them. and then when you see eli and musk out, they're giving a fashion salute. mean how so, how appalling was that to people in russia to see you on most giving a fashion salute to the drum circle? i seen the russian didn't take it as such, but the point you're making is that if it is just a form of ignorance or do you think it's perhaps a deliberate distortion?

i'm talking about the what, what to victoria stuff. the distortion of history to prop up national identity and i think it's a combination of the 2. yeah. and that the right history wars and the government's support them. and they, they understand more than the public does. how important people's understanding of a past due as to how they see the present. you know, we lived through the cold war, which was a horrible period in history. and now we're, again, we're closer to nuclear war. now, there we've been at any time since the cuban missile crisis, maybe the 1st than any time ever, which is why it's so important that the leaders of russia, china, the united states, india and others sit down and talk and figure out how to ease these tensions to settled them peacefully through diplomacy. absolutely. oh,

great. on this uplifting point. let's leave it there. hopefully somebody in some office will hear us on the safe taking the advice from that, but thank you very much for being with us today. professor president, thank you for a lively discussion and thank you for watching hope the syria again on was a part of the

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