tv Cross Talk RT January 27, 2025 5:30am-6:01am EST
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instead, they didn't withdraw and they killed 22 people wounded a 124 more. they brought the hundreds of ceasefire violations before today. we'll know this is never a handful of this was about emptying that, and it's rightly rightful inhabitants. the images of liberties people returning to the border villages in the south dislike the is ready threats despite the u. n. in the liberty state advising them not to is also really powerful. is the west believes in international law at the west to leave its own rules of order. they would enforce disagreement and make is ready, occupation pulled back to occupied palestine. if the liberties national army had a backbone and decayed about their software and territory, they would go to, to, to, with the occupation on behalf of the people in the cell. but they also seem to be only doing the bidding of the united states right now. people always ask why his blog will the lebanese resistance exist. this is exactly why the reality of resistance is born out of a sense of belonging to west cannot ross. the land is not simply belongs to the
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lebanese or that kind of things. and palestine is who they, all of that live. they belong to the land. so they defend the land, and the land defends that. the lebanese, have a right to defend themselves on that line to get any invading occupying force. and i expect we'll see the lebanese resistance, defend 11 on so i that is a rob. so now here one, i think it's an option, a little bit of from a real race to show you the end time you same thanks for sharing it monday with us here. and most of my colleague of motor company is here in about half an hour's time. the
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hello and welcome to cross stuff over in time peter la belle fuels politicians communicate like donald trump. these words can be easily interpreted in a number of different ways. for example, take ukraine, does the president have a real piece plan? well, he defied washington's traditional conventional wisdom. also, how terrified should your be a trump discuss these issues and more. i'm joined by my guess towards samuel in budapest. he's a broadcast where the guy go, which can be found on youtube and locals and, and assemble. we have the leak serial not he is a story and, and political commentator, right? gentlemen, across that goals and the fact that news can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate it. all right, let's start out with george in budapest, again, ukraine is forcibly meetings, but on the agenda, no surprised them. trump said he was going to end and end of day. well, they didn't happen and it's not happening. i have to wait in mid to both of you. um,
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initially i was not the lady, but i was, you know, and they made some kind of confidence. they do, you know, trump says this war has to come to an end the, the blood shed over the last few days a, his encounter with media. he got a lot of facts wrong. a lot of numbers wrong is kind of embarrassing. um, but you know, it's just not a trump, marco rubio, a little marco, he says this war must come to an end. that sound the good side of the ledger george . but on the other side of the ledger, i'm actually more pessimistic than i was before. trump was inaugurated because they're talking at each other. the 2 sides are talking at each other. they're not communicating at all. there's really actually no progress. as matter of fact, you can say that we're losing round george. yes. can i go very well? the true peter um is comp really simple is spent bowling. now he doesn't know what
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he's going to do. he's throwing things around and hoping that somehow, you know, something will stick, is clear that he wants this war to come to an end. he has no, no commitment at all to this war. he has no, any logical facility towards russia. he is, has no particular of the feelings of benevolence towards nato. he would like this to come to an end, but he doesn't really know how to do it. and so he's throwing things around, hoping that somehow this will get him to the final destination. so he started talking about meeting with parents in so that, oh, that's arrange a meeting with coach and but may or may not happen. and then um, in the past few days he's been talking about, um, sanctions imposed a sanctions on russia. well, that isn't going to work and that's, that's, that's been trying to abide ministration. nato have been doing this is
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a day in day out. why, what, how, how can that get him anywhere? and the problem is that this, the spinal de la, whatever he has in mind, is clearly unacceptable to russia. and it's clear that the, what the women trump, himself, what, what, what nato is of u. k. or everyone else has in mind is we'll have a breeze or what policies far in place. we'll have a breeze a and then we're going to use this a breathing space to stop pushing in nature for us as we call them european peacekeepers. and we're going to continue, we will issue all sorts of guarantees the ukraine, meaning we're going to stop the whole thing up all over again in 5 years time. well that's, there's no way that's going to be acceptable to russia until tom starts thinking in a different way. so then what,
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and then we're not going to get any work and then it will be a failed presidency because he's going to this is going to pre okey by him. um, throughout his time in office. yeah, it says the us, the man is warned him that he can turn into his vietnam totally. but the problem is here is that we have a group think phenomena again and or western foreign policy circles because all right, let's, let's take that face value and the term to end the conflict. but that's ending the conflict in bringing peace are 2 different things, and this is one of the problems that we're facing because piece would mean security guarantees for all the ending the conflict. well that's the korean peninsula solution. the very end of that, but it doesn't prove preclude the the possibility of a new complex is george as well is described so well here. i mean it,
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not only is it a discursive narrative issue, it's a conceptual one. i mean, because at the end of the day, if you look carefully at what mark rubio, keith kelly, donald trump, and the rest of them, they're still looking for a to inflict a strategic to fee time rush at that means ending the war to them. that's the problem, teddy. i'm actually left talking to a few that i'm sincere because you are the only 2 people make me to be the optimist compares. so am i going to turn into a breaking news episode? go ahead. but look, um, i agree with almost everything, most of you have said concerning alpha, but trump and his people are saying now is still about could possibly be acceptable
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to moscow. right. so i agree with you on the distance to, to be covered and how difficult that looks right. but i'm not ruling out the possibility that the distance will be covered. maybe in the sudden shock, surprisingly, but i think it could actually happen. but i think the key factor here is very strong, back to meet was 14, and what would happen during the meeting? the that is very important. if there is no meeting between the tools as obvious, if it doesn't happen, or if it's endlessly delayed, but definitely won't be 9 to them. or if it's going to be 10 relatively quickly, i think there's a serious chance that trump is icon or plastic enough to ultimately break these things that you have rightly refer to that are in the way. now i also believe that he stood surrounded by people who are obviously feeding him by data policy advice, including ridiculous data on, for example, home, the addresses. right. and this can mislead him. but they also know about him that
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he is perfectly capable of getting rid of people if he is tired of the advice to give him. because he wants to do something that's right, he has made up his mind. so i think this is the, in spite of all the noise is and the am biggest noise is he has recently made a townhouse in the infamous post team to treat it out on his own network on his own platform. despite all of these, re it noises, i think the possibility that comes to big day with our site is do they? yeah, actually, now obvious thing, we've got a lot of interference from all the people who move on to hope that this won't happen, that they, they provide and that they can push them in exactly the opposite direction. right. he would think, oh, the biting people are just on tough enough and all are going to show them more economic welfare more i'm still the abilities different, even more profit systems and then they're going to have been this. but you know more i, i, i really don't trump is stupid enough to for, for this i think it's transparent,
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new play. and i don't think he wants that risk on his hand. and i think he sees the possibility of this dragging down his hold presidency as very ria. and then there's one more thing that i wouldn't under estimate, which is i know some people don't take the serious, but i think that's a little bit of talk. that's me, hear about him, blunting a 3rd term in spite of his age could be serious. and in spite of all the other constitutional obstacles to end of the trump is ceiling is due considering open, but he's keeping the option of getting to a search term. and then once again, look into that as long as you miss that, simply not going to happen any new job the, let's see, the mechanics of it are almost in survival to peter peter based on that so many times about from that it's not going to happen because in con, my kid, it happens when we break it. trump is a lot of things,
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but he's not superman. casually up to what's happening and decided because in the end, the end of the techniques description who was kind of arguing our point is that you could say, and that's why and my input introduction, you can interpret his words in so many different ways. i made a deal, i made a gesture, you know, i reached out and he didn't receive my handshake. i have no choice. that's what i worry about george. don't worry about that too. because in his characterizations all of the world that he is a presented since becoming president. and he seems to be blaming russia. now, you know, he doesn't take a more realistic view of the war in the way. you know, most of nato does, but he does seem to say, well, the ukraine wants to deal zalinski wants to sit down to do, but he doesn't think the compton does. and he's talked about applying pressure against the russia. now, you know, you may change his view,
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but there's been nothing to suggest that he is ready to think outside the box this thing imagined at the less to what could bring this one to and then praising the conflicting place and say, hey, that's a great deal let's just, let's just bring this more to an end, and that's the talking about economics and the energy production and all of these, you know, building fantastic housing in, in moscow and whatever. that's not going to do the job. i mean, he is, it's clear that the russians want to talk about a serious reorganization of the security in europe. he hasn't talked about that. he hasn't in any way to express some understanding of, of the, of the cause of this war. you know, why this happened was the nato expansion. he hasn't told when, instead of saying, boy, renal russia is not ready to deal,
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then he's going to solve applying pressure against the same, formulates as a fail formula, liked waste audit, correct? correct. i would say, i know is i really feel that you are describing one side of a statements. that's what makes them so tricky. but last spring on the other side, he has famously said that the landscape has no angel eyes. and he has actually set at some point, but he understands the rest, some concern about natal expense. and i think that's, that's actually pointing towards some understanding of one of the key causes of the war. we've never seen the funds of buying administration. so the signals from him that he is ready to think as you say, outside the box, the problem is not that they haven't come out, they have come, i'll do it, we can really find them in the record. now, the problem is that they're mixed up with all these contradictory signals that seem to be the opposite. but let me add one thing about what everybody and i always
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refer them to a us by the, into a right to do that. which is that he has said that ukraine or the lensky, i'm ready to be, and i was across night, as is a pastor and putting right. i think we have to be very careful about that statement . i know that the people who are on the board to continue read it as saying all of if you cry and everything is fine. but you could also read this as saying, i don't know the drum simply assume ukrainians for now take it the. that's a very different reading, but that's also in that. it doesn't necessarily mean new crime is a fine, it means they would have to accept this. and then one of the problem is gentlemen, before we end this part of the program is that i'm still convinced the conversations an intra group conversation in washington and the foreign policy of there's no reaching out to the most get trouble is the best one that the all right, we got to hold that thought, gotta hold that time gentlemen. we're going to go to a hard break. and after that are great. we'll continue our discussion on real
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estate with our to the take a fresh look around his life. kaleidoscopic isn't just a shifted reality distortion by tell us tired vision, with no real opinions. fixtures designed to simplify all confused who really would say better wills, and is it just as it shows you frustrated images presented as fast? can you see through their illusion going underground? can the welcome back to across the board and sign peter a little bell here. we discussed real news just before we went to the break. george was bursting with an idea continue. george. this i was going to say,
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is it yes is, is the landscape will take in the deal because this is not a bad deal for the last day. you know, especially for easily and the conflict in place. ukraine is getting a pounding, so it makes sense to freeze the conflict in place. and in the meantime, he's already getting all this talk from natal and well, issuing these guarantees. all we're going to give you is and then we're going to give you a security. these bilateral security deals in the you've got these deals from storm a is going from from from ser and everything else. and those over talk coming from the europeans in a microphone in particular, oh expressing should use european peacekeepers. so they all of these stories that 5050800200000 piece capers. so for valencia said, okay, well, but i'll, i'll take that deal. and that's really the problem with the so when trump says, well i, you know, from what i'm hearing, zalinski is ready to do
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a deal. yeah. go. so you ready to do a deal because we know exactly what the nato always has in mind. this is going to be in the mid $63.00. we're going to start making preparations for restarting this whole thing in 5 years time. but russia knows this. that's why it makes absolutely no sense for russia to go down this path and then deal with math. and that's why it was a little disappointing for the trump to say, oh, didn't i? i don't, i don't think bush is ready to do a deal. no, it's not, i'm not ready to do a deal on these to the end and we can hear, you know, when, when monica brought to add the, well, they can on a forum and, you know, he's speaking on behalf of nature. yeah. yeah. then we, we, we go to continue as before, keep wearing a red one weapon re into a ukraine and then hoping that things are going to change. and you know, i, i don't, don't agree with that or you can live. i think trump is going to get us a ton know, i think the, you know, you, it will be done and then they'll be somebody else the and then every way i the,
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and the special that a little bit in somebody already reflective gentleman. he's thinking about his legacy, tony george brought up the votes and we had mark looters. they had of nato, and donald trump addressing to very different quantities. there was very different agendas. i mean, again, trump ones do. and the complex both of you are right to point out what is ending. it really means that's not been answered here. this is a continuation of the blurring, this of the, or the lack of a or the intentional ambiguity of the bite and ministration. trump is getting caught in that, you know, it's early days. let's be fair. but you're getting caught in the door. okay. take disagrees with me. but, and you can disagree with me now that and comment about the difference between mark luther and donald trump and down those and interesting venue for 2 men to be at. but you know, look, if you break it down, you know,
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take it away from the people from those pacific people mock road to end. and donald trump will be seeing and georgia is right about this. is that on the european side? and my point is this vehicle this notice of course, between the who pins and the last, right? even if he's already here from the netherlands, only are pee inside. they get to sort of couple of you the shadow play right by the all pretending that they can go it alone. but if you was a really extra case that so from the floor, then they either your opinions can take over on the on. that's what they're doing. now, that's a 100 the agreement with britain. that's what the story is. the defense minister and the term needs to pushing. that's what under the parable costume, that's all across to him. obviously. right. receive this and you are. but the question is, how serious they should we take it. so the to on the thousands, that's a, that's commencement davosto. some ridiculous, even the financial times or anything. you're saying this isn't a go shooting tactic. i don't know this, but i think that it is not something visual to assume is going to come true because
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it's extreme now to realize. and the people who point to things like korea and k for they don't understand the difference is the losses of k for about above 200. that is nothing and many of them and accidents, and non against regular troops. so if you said 40060000, you know, p and troops entering a claim and they really and count as a russian army, people that are for losses and thousands against a regular army. open nuclear on states completely and compared what i'm saying, that's a korean same korean things based on a mutual defense, pat, going back to 1950 sweet. now the trick about those american forces in south korea as their classical trip i, when you attack those or get those involved and you do have as a whole american military, do your parents really want to put a trip via into crime like that? my friend was the armies that suicide, now's e o, p. and so it's been extremely a russian to about policy making. we see these,
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that's why i'm comfortable. and this thing out, you can look at these people and say that's insane. so they won't do it as possible as a bit of trick. still try. but personally, i think it's a ploy. it, it's, and it's united states because your parents are very afraid, but they that seem to be caught out of any negotiations just like the ukrainians. and i think it's aimed at domestic ukraine and politics and it has to do, but single craniums, other grand government trying to mobilize is more people down to h 18th. i think that is all behind this whole. if so the was going to happen. most of the time, this is all a day late in a buck short the way i look at it here. and george, i mean, the european has been according to teddy for some fascinating analysis, but may your opinions of based themselves in every single imaginal way. emma called diplomatically, they don't have any pull the economically, they're in decline was morally speaking, they're bankrupt. okay. i mean,
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right. you're trying to highball trump. i mean, it's a full, is there a good job? that's exactly right. and that the triple, i think is absolute right. then that's what this, this plan to bring in peacekeepers is about, but then on that to keep peace, the serve as a trip. why? in order to soak a much larger conflict, then they know perfectly well that there's no way that they did. the european peacekeepers can possibly do anything against russia, and the whole point of the trip part is to get the americans in. and actually, that's not something specific to your. i mean, you can always keep saying your opinion or the as a nato peacekeeping force corps. these friends, a towel in german, that they live in the nato equation is very different, isn't it? well, it depends. i think it's a, if you are going to bring in french, german italians and the british, then it's like it is an agent or far as i mean, he's not on the nato come on, but he's in effect. he's
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a interest party and the representatives of nato countries article buying the bonds . that's something you know, that's exactly what they going to try and do so either somehow that this act as a trip wire. and it involves a brings in all think, all 5 dozens of goals, but that's the plan behind it. and that's why on these the landscapes and yeah, yeah, yeah let's, let's bring in the peacekeepers. that's. that's it. that's exactly what that's doing. so right can exam loving peaceful about this, not at all, not at all. and that's why they also calling that misstep realization for somebody that trying to make this term even peacekeepers. but, you know, here's the thing, but be off the question. is this activating the optic of 5 in the future, right? but the real question behind this is, what would the russians and the americans think about that? that's the address from those to decide. so the 1st question is, if most goes, says these are attached to french tubes to them and chose bridges, troops and i see them as natal. that's the end of the question because that that
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means a decision. moscow who respond as if tomato. and it would probably do that, and if the americans, on the other hand on the trump say, you know what, something really made to you on your own, that will also be important. and that's why this idea that they have a trip by have, which they can bring in the americans, is a deal of it, especially most of the americans won't come in trunk, leaves them in the lurch. i mean, they must be able to save us. so the whole trip drive and would be just connecting back to the own u. p. and flimsy ost most of the armies. this advisors, especially suicide. but that's, that's exactly the point. yes, there isn't. as a peacekeeping force. then the only way you can happen is if the americans are involved has no other way. and then in the way the only the americans can provide the logistics in the engineering clearly by not doing instruction, the signals and everything else. so that's what i like either if that happens,
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if it happens then um, uh, then it will be the americans involved. um, or some people will not take place, but this all the talk, well, you know, from macro and, and kill style. i'm a and and, and all is and because the landscape is like talking about you were being a peacekeepers, but they know perfectly well that they're going to bring the americans involved. now, it's in till probably it isn't going to happen. but that's, that's where the, you know, the moving now when they with in the little this talk about, well that's the negotiate something. well yeah, yeah, we'll both freeze the conflict in place and then we're bringing this and the circle piece team is i, i don't, it's not a plan that can work. i mean, i agree with the plan to get one, but that's, that's the way that i can explain that to plan that can work because it's not keeping a piece that week. oh, i mean, basically, i don't think, you know, disagree. i'm really costs we,
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we all agree that these plans of having no korean scenario of freezing in place in acceptable to russia. or i know this as well as usual and as long as the, except for russia they won't happen that faith based on a solution. but where i thought you disagree with the both of you is that it's, i think it's possible that i'm the trump, the trump administration, might actually come a distance. and finally move to a position that marshall could actually agree with. right. i know it doesn't look like you right now, but i have to ask my question, what will be expect at this point in time? would you really expect at this point in time importing and from haven't even met? but an organization is i don't know, 10, that is a goal or something, right? the trump is out there and give you lots of for clear picture and saying, i'm totally okay miss, i'm keeping the term tories they have. i'm also cave of paper trinity no need to
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ever, and i'm going to really those the, the whole security architects of your post, the russians. that would be an offer that the oceans won't take. i said, right, yeah, but why is this no, no more than dead george last about 40 seconds where nowhere near that? no right yet? no, no, in the lab and. and that's really the problem. i mean, it's true what, what eric said that trump has spoken in the past about the russian security. but, you know, you know, he throws things around out, but he hasn't spoken up in those terms in the for, for quite some time. now. i mean i, i think led to the question is, if this doesn't take place, i think if, if let's meeting between a boat and then from doesn't take place at any time in the near future. then i think that it's not a good sign. i mean, i think the way you do have of a, if there is a reading that takes place very soon, it's no sign doesn't mean that the,
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what was going to come to right. what is it those needs to be a good sign? well, i can think of the 3 of us can figure it out. i can figure out how marco groups going to figure it out. okay. alright gentlemen, that's all the time we have on the thing, my guessing assemble in budapest, and of course what i think would be worse for watching us here are to see you next time. remember across the was the, the, [000:00:00;00] the, if you think about russia, what is your mind picture the landscapes open up the phone lines.
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