is it really depends on the 2 countries to develop that isn't, is because every problem as a solution, also as we saw after the show floor or the pressure on and to take sides of interest in that if it was an inductor, because that's in stands, which hasn't been appreciated by a show also. and we bought traditionally, there was an unofficial, but we found risk. so i think of these other problems which of the cannot be ignored. but i'm sure that i've sent her sins as well because there's so many countries to are dealing with for sure. i know, you know, don't even know. she has a name and so many countries. and most countries do not want. we have an additional 4 sections that order, one driven edition of industrial click, and it is like go to it windshield reflectors, have to put their heads together and see how to deal with this problem. what are they said? there is a lot of training which is happening outside the us and the district will continue

to happen on some solutions that have to be fine. i sent you the, i think automated payment system. so from the to the phone, then it's already happening on the system. it's all happening in alternate currencies. but the don't addition in terms of 14 forward a new currency which replaces the donor as a dimensional, couldn't see that. i think it's a long way off. well, that's all for me for that as a way that's very to have your company, my colleague mike of what will be with you that some of the thanks for watching the action or can see and welcome back to going underground, broadcasting all around the world from the hot to the middle east on that a style in liberated the nazi death camp. a voucher. it's in poland today as you it's as compared with the gaza strip for the 15 months of

u. k. u. s. and you sponsor genocide, live stream. don't take talk rumble of x, they all go to europe in united states involvement in that genocide was hardly covered on like c, i a and m i. 6 involved wins in supporting al qaeda in syria, now victorious today and investigation into the c. i is arguably never more pressing, not only because it is 50 years to the day of the creation of the us senate judge committee, which expose the c i a as a version of democracy all around the world. thanks to donald trump for a few days, at least the men women and children have gone to have slept without the u. k. u. s . u armed aerial bombardment, and trump is trying to a point cabin to members like our f k junior and josie, gavin. we want to rein in the c, i a, but his cabinet design is within minutes of his an organization. he ended restrictions on us x, bullets of 2000 pound bombs for israel. he has picked through us ambassador to the un who appears to accept the tools scripture over you and resolutions on palestine and trump is funded by casino mobile and is rarely american billionaire, mary and madison. joining me now from pennsylvania,

virginia is dr. philip geraldine for the 2 decade, c, i a military intelligence case officer and executive director of the council. the national interest dr. jersey. thank you so much for coming on a well, one of the 1st things trump did was in financial for an aide for 90 days. and then of course that excluded israel, the largest recipient of american aid. what, what do you think is the points even of the foreign a, the executive order that he made on an organization day last week as well? there's a problem with donald trump is that there's always something that contradicts the good news. and in this case, the bad news, of course, is that uh he uh, has recently also made a decision to uh, eliminate all conditions on the contents of weapons. that is, you will be able to receive from the united states. it will be able to receive those 2000 pounds of ball bus series that has done most of the destruction. gotcha

. and uh, he is also targeted uh, turned around and, and said that the uh, groups of, of right wing settlers who have been so disruptive of the west bank and continue to be disruptive even today will continue to work with his older be subject to any kind of change in spite of the united states so that you get one thing one way and one thing, another way i suspect we're going to have to wait and see what happens. i'm watching him in the oval office. it was clear that he said, look, i don't expect the sci fi to los, by the time this is broadcast my talking to you, it may already have been broken. it has been broken, as you say, in the west bank, which wasn't part of that agreement. what did you make of his intentions? i know it's, it's very difficult. we're literally investing all of this into 11 human being. see

with golf the on boy anyways, design is although from what we hear was really into the at least stopping the fighting for a few days. yeah. well, i think that again, with this is a, a case where there is a developing a situation, a donald trump does not really have much experience in dealing with the negotiations at this kind of level. and we have to wonder, to what extent his ego is driving the process by him wanting to be remembered as the man who made peace. now we will see how that plays out if he doesn't expect the, the 1st uh, 6 weeks to actually bring a, uh, some kind of settlement. uh, and that the, uh is really, is, uh, will break the agreement. then it will be every single watch to see how he tried to cover himself and to talk the story that makes it look good. what's your feeling as

to why? i mean, clearly by blinking sullivan iris the names we hopefully will never have to mention again except in some sort of trap. you know, they, they had this same deal for months. what do you think the deal was, was about? i mean, did the, as the with golf i ordered by trump to say, i was able to tell that and yahoo look a given. because this is basically giving into about a sending and resistance. and we'll back you for destroying the westbank in the occupied territories, or was it will all, i'm you to the deep maybe even militarily get involved in a war on the run. although i should say the around on boy brian hook has been fired as well. who was kind of in charge of transition, it state department, and he was another these people who are under water on the run. but mind you so many of his cabinet like rubio has been historically as well. the bind

administration. we have to be honest about the bible ministration was collaborated with israel do what was going on in gaza and also to increase the temperature of what was going on and level and on and with syria. so they collaborated with him and we'll have to see, to what extent a trump will be a collaborator or whether his reputation will push him in a different direction. it's. it's a very hot situation right at the moment. and you know, there's brian hook, he was the previous one void to run and then he was supposed to be arranging transition for rubio at the moment. i mean, i, i should, i suppose i should really ask you about, what do you think of walton rubio? really a, given your intel background, let alone. i think many people know who marco rubio is. what bus new bizarrely left kubler under the us back. but face to face thinking, i don't think he's a communist though. and he meanwhile,

is always back the whole case positions right through the habits of your atmosphere . and ma'am, is fair, i'm speaking to you from well, i mean the whole, the, virtually the whole cabinet that the trump is pulled together is so hard liners and the hard liners in the middle east. the hard line, in some cases, is on the ukraine. russia issue, it's a little bit softer there and of course has a very hard line against china. so this is what we can expect. and that's what we should expect. but we have to wonder what extent donald trump will be pushing sometimes in the other direction. yeah, i invited changing things. name is lead to the, to the organization or the way he ended up going that. yeah, well, i suppose ukraine is the issue. people have most hopes about with regard to the piece. how do you think uh,

people like rubio and waltz are able to make such swift uh, uh, you tons because clearly the trump policy is not going to be the one that's being advocated by a lot of those cabinet members that he's a pointing a completely out of step with them, and there was some reports that as of even 72 hours of his, it will get ration arms exports with being stuff from nature, bases us bases in your a, a to ukraine, even as a lensky pro, rated it to the global list and double us will, the can only for him as well. the question has to be, to what extent these appointees will be able to go around the president if they're able to do that as it was done with buying. uh, we will see a lot of things happening that are hard to explain in terms of the rhetoric that came out of the campaign from, from donald trump. so again, this is going to be a work in progress. i would recommend that everybody watch carefully what goes on

virtually either on a daily basis for the 1st month, because that will do the term and to a certain extent, the shape of what goes on after that. clearly the confirmation hearings, rubio appear to think that he actually use the word leverage on russia as regards sanctions. if brakes didn't exist and as if you didn't understand what happened to rush, you're after all these sanctions i, the economy is the biggest buy pvp. i think in, in new york or something has done well out of it. do you think good people like rubio and the rest of them understand that there's no point in leveraging pollution in any way over ukraine if they think that's the way to get some kind of a deal. a this is one of the great sections of washington, which isn't that the, the, the,

the support for your crime basically who was about weakening russia. but the fact is otherwise, is that the, the, the, the so called leverage has basically made russia stronger. and you increase the value of its energy exports. and um, it basically has come out of this with a, some of the, with alliance with the iran, and somewhat of in relation of a renewed relationship with ro which right up. so when the chair and the put unfortunately, people and rubio don't have the depth of understanding to appreciate what really is coming out of this. it's in america's interest to settle this business in ukraine and russia without turning russia into anatomy. and the national security advisor, bolts people don't really talk about them that much. the former mayor of some small town in america who worked into john ashcroft in from us for re instituting. you

might have to explain with the palm of raids, where the americans and how, how do you expect them to impact, uh, actually on home and abroad. these kinds of policies as well as you know, the thing is when, when these people show up in an international forum, director inches profile. and that was the interesting thing. go 4 years of joe joe biden. and his regime was the fact that any time these people opened up their mouse and i'm talking about blinking, and i'm talking about the spokesman and washington that appeared constantly on american televisions. these people showed directorates. and i think we're going to have another round of that, but again, the big question becomes, who's going to be pushy full and is, does it pro as a result of his 1st time in office?

how do you understanding that he didn't have then? and maybe we'll do some of the right things. yeah, people are being criticizing towards the gabbert, his intelligence pick for you to ending on 7 of the 2 of the patriot act, allowing more and was wide shopping and fan is you don't think that the jump will need to wirelessly wire. tap is in dire administration for any conspiracies against him, like the last time around with people like boeing bad. oh, yeah, well that's the whole thing. i mean, the us government's been doing this ever since the george w bush. and they've been doing it secretly, a lot of the time, and they've been doing an open leave by virtue of these uh, these uh, uh, allowances that have been written into the laws. so this has been going on since forever. i mean, i respect to tulsa gabbert because she was one of the few caught was women went to syria, to find out what was going on there to have it did for vote on what was the current

. and she's afraid right, well, and i think that she is not one who is going to be uh, basically allowing the whole scale surveillance of people and stuff like that. i think this will be a kind of a, a select process for her, which i regret. but this is the way our government works. our government has become very much in many aspects, like a police be dr. philip geraldo, this company that well from the pharmacy. i a case officer and current executive director of the council of the national interest. after this break the, [000:00:00;00]

the, the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with the executive director of the council of the national interest dr. phillip drowsy to dr . jeroski, you were talking about the tools, the gap, but you might have to just explain how the power relations work between the position she has been picked for, for trump versus john radcliff, at the c i a and the national security advisor, mike wells. well they, they all have a similar function is that they're basically people who interpret intelligence for the white house. the one why is it most directly will be a policy gab or because her position is uh, is, is such that it's the house of function in the white house. there is a less of

a functionality in though it's in the to other jobs because they have separate responsibilities. her job is to interpret the intelligence for those who are the people who, who make policy judgments. the other 2 are basically the focus of the organizations that they had with which have a different role. so you know, there are different voices, but they all are supposed to be saying the same song. yeah, i think a position the breed assessor. i wrote a report about this program and it's a, it's power around the world for which i really like to. i really like that intelligence report. but of course, we know that your all the god media and let alone the military industrial complex don't like tools. the gap it into smearing, just as they used as we had trouble. drum is basically a rush and asset. hey, how much do you think

a whole sentence is congressman will be believing all these are lies about josie gab it'd being a russian spy more or less. yeah, i don't think any of you will actually believe that they're, they're playing a political gave in terms of whether they want her there or not for reasons of the wrong. and, you know, most of the people in congress has a, i'm sure of all, all of you in the rational community where a well informed know that congress is probably one of the most corrupt organizations, a political organizations of that type in the entire world. yeah, they're pushing back against the department of government divisions. they already obviously a lot of money being made somewhere political as josie. gov would like our f k junior, who's not responsible specifically for any kind of foreign policy ream it though. oral scientists and the push against iran,

given the choices for cabinet positions is i can send you yeah, it does. it's a, it's the one area where i think people should have a, in addition to the rush of course, which is the big area where people should have a concern to wake up in terms of the policies that they're, they're pushing. and the reasons for the policies that they're pushing as it turns out, of course, the supporters of history or the united states have very deep pockets and lots of money here to around the politicians. so all of these politicians, as i mentioned before, have basically been corrupted and basically have the what and it's critical for them to say the right things about israel and the right to end the right to you to which are of course, the wrong things about the rock and you think that despite saying he's all about peace, they will be saying things like, look,

syria went when no one expected it. i think that in the congress, people are in saying the intelligence didn't support the fact that aside would flee so quickly. similarly, the same could be done about iran and the net result will be trump, my ring himself in a war, which is a previous presidents in recent years have and go down in history is just another failed us. well, president as well. so that's why i say we have to watch the situation almost on a daily basis between now and say the end of january. uh, we'll see in terms of some of the decisions that the president makes, where it's all going. and this is the time when people like us who have someone who voice and some of the boards have got to speak out and got to say here we are going that way again. and there might be something that trump is actually

sensitive to. and he might push back against his own a point ease. that's what i hope to see. yeah. been possessed. can the president of the i've a run mandated by a toilet as well. so many, up here to one did tones they haven't retaliated for his riley strikes, seemingly saying that it was all about the guys of these 5 deal. what would you advise them? i mean truly, and they're hearing voices in their own country, clearly to preemptively attack in these early days of a trump administration to for a stool and still some kind of fear. because at the moment everyone will be having drums here and saying, look around and walk over there having problems in their own country. and now is the time to go for it. well, i think somebody has to be very clearly making the case that 1st of all around there's not a walk over and, and secondly,

there are implications in terms of policies for a whole regions and oh, whole parts of the middle east. and also parts of, of further it asia that would be upset and disturbed as basically a to come back to this credit to what the united states is doing. so there is a downside, a big downside to thinking that, oh yeah, well around is a pushover. israel wants us to do it. we like is real, they give us a lot of money. so, so let's go in what is the fact is nothing is ever quite as simple as it seems to the people in washington. and this isn't good. our our deficit for quite some time . yeah. the russian around comprehensive strategic partnership agreement was made within hours of the organization. the timing was set to be near the inauguration day, a position being in moscow with boots in the do you think they understand you were talking about those massive trade routes? do they just not?

i mean, you were at the see i actually there's until about the fact as a child to hot card or from india through to iran involving the caspian huge, massive trade routes are being organized under the ages of bricks has been view from the united. i remember it's a member of that grouping, just as iran is. does he just not have this information and think that they can the i know, trump said spain was in breaks with the do they did, they don't understand the, the, the rest of the world is moving very swiftly towards new ways of uh, uh, financial exchange. let alone them goods exchange rates as well as i made the honest to god truth. is there a lot of people in washington who do understand all these things? and the certainly when i hear some of my former colleagues from the intelligence agencies, and so other people who are outspoken in the peaceful,

but basically they do understand all of this, of the correct people of explaining it. but the 3rd is now listening, coming from congress. a, you know, you could name the congressmen who actually are aware of all these issues and how important they are. you could names of probably a one hand. and this is the tragedy of what's going on in the united states. and of course, a bear in mind that the, the media, the media is united states is a big part of the problem that actually some people that i know would call it the biggest part of the problem is because what they are doing is they are supporting up the standard lines that are coming out of the administration, like the, uh, everything that is real does is uh, explained as something else or what is actually doing. everything to united states is doing. and in ukraine is somehow el whitewashed, the relationship with russia,

russia, and put in are declared to be boxed or is of various kinds. you know, this goes on and on and on and on. and this has, this has been national media, this is the new york times, the washington post. los angeles times the major newspapers are, are primarily involved in this level. and rupert murdoch's fox news, which includes trump, but apparently watches it is 50, is the judge commission. uh today. uh the most recent case the i is, uh, i see for rough months. uh uh you think he actually does a whistle blow, he revealed the is really plans to attack iran and how important uh, would you tell me about that case and what do you think of it and how important uh the trump getting uh his hands on uh some kind of accountability is regardless the i is going to be in the 2nd to or yeah, well i certainly think rockland was a whistle blower and i think he was a i,

i consider most of the whistle blowers we've had the last surgery last 20 years have been right, choose people who are really concerned about what the united states is doing. that is damaging the interest of the united states and damaging the futures of america. ordinary american citizens who are kept in the dark, there lied to cause to lead by the administration. and uh, they are essentially being sold a bill of woods where, you know, we have situations like we have natural catastrophes and do night in states. and there's, there's no money to help these people, and yet the, there's a $100000000.00 us to send them to you crate. so something seriously wrong here, and something seriously wrong about the money and the weapons that he's real is getting to kill. maybe as many, 400000 alice deleon's. so this is a lawful so these whistle blowers are saying the right thing, doing the right thing. and i'm all in favor of what we're doing. if the,

if for our club has been able to forestall is really these really various attacks that have been taking place in release and in the lab and not syria and, and potentially or wrong. uh, that was a good say. and just finally, i don't know as a case officer, whether you had security guarantees to see them. but trump has said that the the j f k papers, the r f k papers, the m l k papers are going to be released. what impact on american society is a going to have when american see the truth about what the government was trying to cover up, even if it's not as bad as the some suspected to be? what do you think is the impact will be on the american public when they realize what the, the circle, deep state does for much beloved figures like john f kennedy, robert kennedy and martin luther king junior as well. i told you, i mean, the fact that this has been covered up for as long as its been covered up in the

case. there's something incredible, something lawful in there. and then, and people like myself or been to concerned about the is really role in the american government. and ever since the 19th sixty's a, we'd nurture the, the possible syria is real, was behind the killing of j. a. k or at least was knowledgeable. that it was going to take place and that was because robert f kennedy was about to make up the israel lobby or register as a for an agency. so that has never happened since that time. and there was a strong motive. and many of us believe that there is a this real tied to that that's a both those man, even though the official narrative is a palestinian killed bobby kennedy attorney general and candidate for president. yeah, that's, that's correct. yep. so that that would contradict completely the,

the narrative and, and turn it upside down that alone because cash patel is up for free. i am what i go to what further is going to be revealed? i mean, we already have papers that you are the epi, i tried to tell them i didn't do the king junior to kill himself. yeah. well, that means there are a lot of these stories that have yet to surface. i mean, certainly when i was in c, r a, there were a lot of things that happened that kind of either went away or made to disappear and things like that. and these were things that in many cases, people like myself in the intelligence agencies. we for, we protested and said, no, this is not right, but we were, we weren't people lower down in the, in the hierarchy. and uh, you know, the ones who make these decisions are at the top of these organizations as they're essentially politicians. dr. philip, charlie,

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