to hello and welcome to the cross stuff full force here. we discussed some real in the the police say they have on cover the massive ukrainian led to the middle. and that's what that took advantage of a lack of oversight or veterans used to conduct to the deluxe of it. the locals free for safety as many times take over a may just city of the democratic republic of the congo. a nation rates and resources got to end up in global and particularly european supply chain funding run out because national companies want to see it to, to have access to your sources on. this is the easiest way. this is the cheapest way in middle, put on, you know, from invest too. i live in, you know, the store. i bought a couple of feet under so that we can see may be just behind us. here is very so

just just yards away. he's got his gun trading on the people here. so we're trying to take a bit of tab because these what utilities are opening 5 and what each of those ones today just a few minutes ago. how washington extends that deadline for each role to leave solving 11 and a half throw in the initial window, expire down here on sunday and it comes us. at least 24 civilians were killed while trying to return home territories currently occupied by the idea the while you're watching are to international reaching. you live for my new center with moscow. i a michael porch. i now, but you use international please for says that he has uncovered the massive ukrainian lead crime rate of the group, allegedly took advantage of

a lack of oversight of refugees from the conflict in order to commit money laundering and other schemes amounting to tens of millions of years in total, the operation which took place over several months led to the arrest of $23.00 suspects. the seizure of 35700000 euros in cash bank accounts in crypto currencies, as well as 36 vehicles, real estate watches in jewelry. the organized criminal network composed of most of ukrainian but also armenian, as or by johnny or cause ok, nationals has been providing cash, courier, and underground banking services to other criminal networks. europe whole is very blatantly putting this so that they believe that they said the members of this crime gang, but they have been abusing and exploit some very temporary protective status in the you given that either has been predominantly made up of ukrainian nationals and given that the humanitarian will impact of this war has being felt in ukraine. many

millions of flood the country fling not just the fighting, given how fee is every pretty much every battle for every town has been given how much we have documented ukrainians using civilian infrastructure for a. we're planning out the defense is capitalizing on study concrete building. civilian apartment buildings, but also arguably maybe even more ukrainians flood, forced mobilization of zalinski and his instrument. some use legal methods fleeing while they can many tried to just, you know, smuggling themselves across the board or risking the lives in the some have even been killed. they've been dead, they found themselves dead, many drowned trying to fleece to the e. u. and the given, given this nature, given that was basically the regulations that are normally in place. for instance, as to how much money and valuables you can will move across the border. those

regulations have the last 4 ukrainians. this is something that this crime syndicate has exploded to move massive amounts of cash i within the you across the borders and basically to just operates when some of them use were uncovered. well, uh they have uh, moved from the physicals via to the online well to crypto currencies, but that didn't help them either. the suspects are believed to have abuse the temporary protection status granted to ukrainian refugees by the he uses 2022 as well as other citizens affected by the russian war of aggression against ukraine. many of the millions of refugees from ukraine took their savings with them to europe in cash, to safeguard it from the consequences of the war. taking advantage of the exceptions, put in place to facilitate the transfer of money between jurisdictions. the criminal network moved huge amounts of cash without being questioned in detail or scrutinize during customs checks. and

a new influx of refugees is exactly something that the, these crime rings and crime syndicates could need to exploits to attract more people within the rank speech route. because well, basically who will find themselves most likely to find themselves crossing and fleeing to be you. now again, these are those who have just graduated high school and it means they simply don't have any profession that they have. most of it could put them on a hunt list of big european corporations for a who can offer higher paying jobs. all they can expect to be hired for is to do menial labor. and that's a low paying. that's really a low paying job. and so this is something that these crime brings, could exploit to entice them to move them into the web of crime, to with promises of a quick and easy money of status and so on. low cost and live now to economist and financial experts almost spend to help us make sense of all of

those right now. it's almost as good to have you join me. so you're all poll says that the crime rate exploited financial control exemptions for ukrainian refugees. could you tell us more about how they could even have done that? it is. hey, mike, it's good to be with you. yeah, it's not just ukrainians. i mean, that is the focus of this story, but i mean, we've let and millions and millions of of undocumented. they're not then and that the site and documented the millions of refugees into this uh, union, uh over the last not, not even since the start of the, the, you know, the military operation, new tracking. but since 2015 and all of these people, you know, have no documentation of note, have no bank accounts. and as you discuss dearly, i mean these people need to make money. they need to live. and there are many of them here. we've just created the situation where the,

the governments have, you know, created this moral hazard because we're offering all the wrong incentives for people to come here. that's not the way it used to be. they're not coming from, you know, freedom of religions. and that, coming for an open society to coming essentially for the, the, the handles that are been given out, you know, from these european countries, countries like germany, france and others. and, you know, these countries have demographic problems. they, they are trying to get people into the labor market. and the problem is that we have, you know, ponds, the light schemes like our my pension system, especially in germany, that we require bodies desperately to get people in here to have them on this this, this is we have a pay as you go system and they need desperately to get people into that system. and you know, when you, when you let people into the country or into it through the union in mass, i'm a lot of them on document to do, you know that you create

a situation where these types of problems you know, are essentially unavoidable and, and that's that's where we find ourselves out here. all right, do you expect the you will fall right to is to close those, the polls, and what consequences could there be for ukrainian and all the refugees in general because of a few bad apples? i mean, i think in general we've built built, they'll try to do something to say face um, but like i said earlier, they, they need people desperately into your opinion. um, it's not necessary that we need them, but they, they the if the current system needs them. um the way the system is set up. now, i mean, as i mentioned earlier that, that the, the pension system, it just, it creates a situation where we're at where we have a demographic problem. citizens don't have as many kids as they used to because of the system because the structure of it. and i think at the end of the day, they're going to try to keep as many of those people here as, as possible. i don't think there's going to be a, you know,

a huge it might unless there's some, some massive political change that comes about in, in europe, or especially in germany. if the is searching as of late. that could be a potential game changer. but other, other than, than something like that happening and i just don't see any, any massive change coming. there's something to say face, and that's what i think on several, wherever we feed assigned i'm time to watch. all right, and do you think these problems might actually be more widespread than what is currently being reported? yeah, i'm sure they are sure they're, they're much more widespread considerably. you've got the, you know, so many people coming in in here and into european union that it's just impossible to control them. and if you talk to people and positions of, you know, within the government, it's clear that the, they just don't have the, the capacity to control all of these people that are, that are flowing into this, to germany, france, other countries, it's, uh, it's impossible. all right, you're,

you talked about demographic trialing just not that they have been increasingly more calls in europe to send ukrainian men for instance, back to the homeland, to fight to the conflict. and those suggestions have come from poland and between. yeah, for a, for instance, what do you think about well, i don't think the, the, the, the germans on this as i go along with the germans or the french, they're the ones that have the most, i guess, extravagant pension type systems that you'd like to call it that compared to the, the eastern europeans and these systems, you know, by design, create a situation where the internet of the native population just doesn't have as many children that route that they don't need them anymore. they don't have to rely on them. they rely on the pension payments that they're receiving, the older age as a, as a source of income in a way to take care of themselves. and that in and of itself be gets and also cited . it has fewer and fewer children. i think that they're going to, uh, you know,

especially in, in the western part of europe where the countries didn't have the most decadent, you know, social systems that they desperately one point. these people have that, that the, that's the main political parties. they, they need these people here to maintain the power and power structure. you know, can you imagine, you know, your pin politicians, german, or french politicians telling their their citizens that they're, you know, the pensions and that they're not gonna be able to pay them. it's just politically so destructive and so much their power is based on these mechanisms and i just don't see that happening. but why we have to leave it here now it's almost bad and economist and financial expert. thank you so much for your insights. it's like say, i don't even like a night right now, what minute tons group claims to have taken over a major city in democratic republic of congo and yeah, the ro, wanda,

and border. i meant the chaos reports are coming in. the prisoners have managed to escape from the local jail. now this video managed on social media and the facilities believe to have held about $3000.00 inmates. record say that there were some fatalities during the deal break, or the exact number is on clear. i said now the images have shown people fleeing from the gun fire reports say the soldiers will be on the lease ami were forced to hand over the weapons to un peacekeepers many times from the admin and 23 group of sold local residents to remain calm. for just days ago, the province governor was killed and then a sold by the group. a local residents say that they are living in fear. we are in a terrible state of fear because the explosions were becoming more and more frequent

before we were just walking down the street unaware of the threat. here's a bullet. i'm not a soldier, but i know how to recognize it. i picked it up while quickly closing the door. a balm fell just a few steps from our street. i went outside and that's when with a terrifying crash, the gunfire erupted. a resolution will come if the authorities finally accept iowa, that would allow us to avoid this desperate fleet to safety. right now, none of us can go a moment without fearing that we may have to rush into yet another evacuation that the d r. c. all meet has condemned to the m 23 group saying that he has committed wall tribes and it goes to the it was i'm a new sco helicopter that was shot down in north kibo near chon su, with a peacekeepers dying. as a result, there are s a d c soldiers who also died. we must wake up and stop ignoring reality at the level of the international community, and especially at the level of the african union. it is not only a war crime,

it is also a crime against humanity. so these are unprecedented crimes and the international community must wake up since it is not just those who died there. and now the m 23 minutes and group has been active in the eastern democratic republic of congo for several decades now. now it grew out to be tensions of the rwandan genocide. the 19 ninety's, the m 23 is believed to have or originally emerged as a group of ethnic tootsie rebels. on march the 23rd, 2009 there reached a peace agreement with kinshasa and assume the name m 23 in honor of that date. how about the agreement did not last long. this fighting interrupted again between the sides of the volunteer escalated extremely in 2021. but that came a detour rating relations between her wanda and the d. r. c, which blay b. try that for the conflict. not just this past weekend on voice and the un traded

bobs about the dispute. i unfortunately would agree that a dimensional community chose to condemn the empty city for extending your state authority is without condemning fire to send me to the guardian for violating this is fire. after the postponement of the 15th of december 2024. when the assignment ministration aggravated under ground, due to the dentist is up session with a mentor solution to this conflict. expect on those they exploit our resources and impose their control on the local population with impunity. these actions must be punished. this illegal exportation is only one aspect of the aggression carried out by rolanda space. now the d r c is rich resources. it is the well largest producer of cobalt. now the d r. c is also the will of logic produce of full time, a key mineral for making batteries for mobile phones and even electric vehicles.

that it was only a year ago that the, you find a memorandum with $1.00 to $4.00 raw materials supply chains. and that despite reports claiming that much of what is considered one does me know, production is actually small built into the country from the d r c a d r c president to pose the agreement saying that wanda was looting, come with these mineral resources. but from a different american electra at the co operative university, the democratic republic of congo says that multinational corporations are targeting the country as resources. i don't see one that is um is free x or the in the minds themselves. we're renting and it's funding wrong. that because of our conditional company is want to see it to, to have access to just us is, this is the easiest way. this is the cheapest way to mail for around your home and up to i living in now is or i have been, i think under sources and, you know, most of the, it says i am cool. and so, um, because going risk,

i'm just giving there. so there's like that, let's have to use, i mean, but i can see that some of them, and this is an issue over my financial news. this is a rabbit for the easy for any renewal for this uh, quote on the on demand or any uh, fee to send you, i guess it waste. they've seen you, i guess from so we'll jump all your ways or you. but you don't have to because the position in distance is the benefits for me, this initial month, national companies. and that's the bottom line is illegal c o 4 of calling me on is the continuation of this for many months. i see on each side and that's many gone. so i've gone to the task. i think i'm going to, i use as tools to between these 4 on the station. if you look at how run a cool way dream of what the data as cool was funding monitoring ment. jim's, are we doing this every on the, the same vision community on for

a patient? oh, good lives on this then on you see if there was peace in chrome will run the benefits much more the benefit thing now on the covering black on back on. so we we see he's putting amenities on our prize. hey, it's the key problem. you've got the wrong hospices on wednesdays and latest normally, that cheap, simple to store these on. this is what uh, is uh for uh, uh, a sticking mouse. it's not about any, and i don't see any of these on, do i run? i'm going to increase is on the door, except that i saw it as a form will have some stuff even if it's minutes giving me understand or me and media. and let's discuss the latest with political analyst and director of the come at least to a think tank, re dice when you read us has lots of have you join me now?

so given the chance is yeah, given the rapid advances we're seeing now by the m 23 and then it ends whether you think this could all be headed. do we have all the ingredients for a full scale war like we had in the past? what look i'm using, but we're used to it testimony we, we are the best country to give an example of that. this conflict to me as a teacher in order to do a full scale war. unfortunately, you know, we, we have, let's say, i did tell the napkins that we are stuck to disrupt where, you know, the legal side they can, you are struggling to solve the biggest, simple problem. but to i can see this the, you know, uh, it's kind of due to the drip it config. if he does not have it taken care of as soon as possible. all right, now, a representative from the d. r c at the united nations has said that the conflict is essentially about control of a natural resources that what he'll make about i believe ready, the, the,

as much more than that, that means that whenever subject can be involved, they're in a party to co or democratic a metrics that it's always bound to be problems and consumers you saw this issue, read the board, the democratic vision of convolt, if there was a simple vision or pro pump democracy where they say, you know, quite a big key agreement as to what kind of religious, you recreate the popular leadership that is needed to go visit result. so although there's, i mean, so that for you and it's improved better idea as well. so i'd be ready much more than rhonda ended. the existence of fed offering sources do be guaranteed. i think we should start out with the double cross. if it's the global, then we can begin to uh, it will cause knowledge, the important adult or the warning punch is that. all right. and if we have time, we'll come back to this, this complex, it's a between the control of resources and then the ethnic tensions,

the elements in between this. but just a year ago, the you use side the memorandum with rwanda for raw material supply chain. yet reports indicate that much of the one does mineral production is actually small. but from the d r c, a d r c presidents recently has condemned this agreement, claiming the one that is looting companies resources. what do you make of this back and forth between both countries? i absolutely agree with the you know, the, the, the session that to rhonda is not be using as a day to do it with signing agreements with your agreements that to involve the national endowment or fail for the neighboring country. now, you know it's, it's, it's very clear that to london is complicating this. the situation is i believe that it is, it's important to note just method missions. but after i do need to and did subject

it, try it. excuse me, kate, at rhonda from the san francisco pics program. it would be a very good deck beginning yet resolving this, this conflict. all right, the hobble, i'll do african spades and organizations see the current disc collision and the comfort overall, did they view it differently from the way the west sees it? absolutely. you know, the, the, the, the 10s that we have in these organ clock between africa is that the peer review will make it, systems are very subtle and i agree with you. so they've been goal. it is you outside of the level of the african countries strongly believe that to run to a split and i had in this policy, they may not be able to come outright because remember, one that is a boy boy of the west. so the west as low as 2 tickets, a ticket planned. so i believe that most of can countries agree that to one,

the rundown it needs to be executed, went from it, but dental reading to face to poke a gun. me and i think this is what the problem is. all right now the boss of the, to the u. n. says that the conflicts in the dark sees the legacy of the regions colonial past. do you agree with that? i do not agree to do this, is that just the right time that we i'll get them to come. i'll go visit accordingly, elective to month drop. we have been almost 60 years old, pretty organizing all governments. and we keep under fading to awkward, at what stage out of the kids are we advocate going to take responsibility for ineptitude? i believe that the we, it's applicant, as we decided and because we have the responsibility of courtney and most of the order and still pretending that there we are victims of core. and then it gets in and i think it's been people could to go and i believe that this does not stop. all right, but however, a lot of people have seen this as conflict that is few old from outside of africa.

but we have to leave here now rejoice, i'm going yeah. political analyst and director of commodity suicide. in fact, thank you so much for your time. thank you. right. moving ahead, now, 11 on one passing has reportedly been killed. the civilians continued trying to return to their homes in the south of the country that those who made its finding the territory still occupied by use ready for 6 months after the deadline for the withdrawal from a was extended. now 24 people are reported to have lost the live city sunday leading 6 women. and that's according to the lebanese health ministries. a 134 people i set to have been wounded, including 12 who suffered gunshots are to steve sweeney. has a travel to the area, reports on how id of soldiers as to the seed with thing goes on the track that

now we can see may be just behind us. here is a soldier. does y'all do? why? he's got his gun trained on the people here, so which ones take a bit of tab because these what you saw, he's already putting 5 that body shop that was once today just a few minutes ago. the situation is incredibly, 10 to about people are saying here was an act of defiance and not allowing the ladies to dictate when they come and call them pertaining to that room. but it is what these ladies all doing and not the extension of that c 5 agreement was to give them more time to the but the refusing to do so. we can see the book about time just up here is why the so which is the wrong here. i just found this way. we can see the villages, men, and women and children in amongst the lebanese on forces as i tried to return home to them and it is now the deadline has been extended on till february, the 18th, after the initial 60 days window expired last sunday with the hunt with the idea of

failing to withdraw from the area. now, the initial plan announced in late november i gave, has the last 60 days to slipped, pull back above the lea, tiny river that runs across southern lebanon, and required the idea of to withdrawal completely from the country over the same time period. now, while washington to announce the deadline extension, israel blades the lebanese on me for not feel feeling it's part of the deal will not endanger its citizens and its population centers. and we will insist on the full implementation of this goal of the war. and i don't know if that is namely returning our residence safely to their homes. so it is yes to an enduring piece with lebanon, but it is a big no, to hezbollah, redeploying along apple. it's not again, never again although across live now to a kid i make could be such

a media and politics. hi. uh ill. how are you? hi, i'm just good to have you join me now. so the deadline has been extended until the middle of next month, but will it actually be met this time or will be seeing the need for another extension after this? yeah, actually as you saw it very board that the, the is there it is. are blaming anybody states or i think about his army for nothing came on think v 6 funding agreement. however, we know that the is there a actually is trying to circumvent the agreement because they believe that we are trying to continue what they achieved in the, on the ground as to political means. and if you want to go back to the edition one stuff is really pensions remote, that is, it are not accept

a withdrawal one or this image of the, of the victory for not only for his beloved, but for the you see, for. and we saw in the last 2 days the, the images of the people who went to the villages before the patient. okay, is there a bit of a conviction of forces? and at the same time, the settlers are not able to go back or refusing to go back to the stuff in this. this image is not easy to be, is it? or indeed a stable add also to the internet and the subsidies. that is why the, the is where it is swaying, as i mentioned, to circle the agreement. because if we go back to the agreement, the article about the role of the say, the choices uh, a low to this article because it, it states that the is there any, as well in the bottom should not exceed 60 days. and this me, in the end as well,

actually, we know that they do not respect the international agreements and they keep violating this or not should i know with or without what they would say as much as they can. and i'm the dfcs of the funding, the dumpsters to not to do for as long as the as the question whether they read this time in february 18 hardly be. but this is based on the american decision rebuild that the u. s. is the direct sponsor as to effective of the is there any of the patient sources that live on the move actually? and then on the other side, if, if the u. s. wants to end the world and live alone. they will, it will be with pressure on there is there to be government to do that forces and to prevent the outbreak of another off legs in the event that is. so we

would see, we know that the bodies are nice, is replying or replying back to be in the cells. but also according to the agreement, the deployment of the bodies army is based on the withdrawal and of the is there any occupation forces? so they cannot blame the batteries on me because of again, based on the agreement, this is fight agreement, but he's on the cannot be deployed a very big it was to work. so the 1st thing is they have to withdrawal designated by his army as he did in other places or villages of the south. they wouldn't be deployed and then they would control the area and know if the interest situation continues. there will be conflicts on the classes this far between the people of the villages, the inhabitants of the villages, the people, the south and the is the e r. me, i'm not. his will not as the, the, the claim.