here is to any of it, if anything, it's there among their talking among themselves. negotiating with the other side meeting, russia isn't even in the cards yet and your thoughts go ahead. i think especially europe is still stuck in an item this the position, the swedish afford and administer on monday of this week said that to we, europeans have 3 core interests. and this was my re stand a guard to the swedish for the minister saying this. we have 3 core interest us, you will be and keeping ukraine strong. russia we and the u. s. in now. uh yeah, i don't really know where to start to. well, well, map and match. so i, i, you know, i, i, i'm not really a well aware of the, the, the, your foreign minister, but i mean, those are not the new ideas that is been, that was the mentor of the cold war. so,

i'm not even imagine the imaginative thinking coming out of what you're repeating. capitals continue please. you know, it's, it's, they're, they're stuck in, in the, in the world as they wanted to be. there is obviously no reality based discussion with india in union and trying to match trump's new rhetoric even though denmark is being threatened to, the european leaders are still stuck in in the i the list come and call us said, i think this past weekend said the date was the in the interest, all the europe to dismantled russia and break it up into smaller parts. i don't know where this came from, but it's this, this a briefs and idea that's been been with the european union and especially with um, i would say england since the time of the great game,

russia has always been seeing us as an adversary. now, at trump coming in and kind of at re lighting the fire of the or original monroe, dr. tree. meaning that trump is signaling that america is now going to focus on his part of the western hemisphere with panama threatened in columbia. going after canada, looking at greenland with which is geographically in the monroe doctrine hemisphere might mean that there is a situation where trump is doing what is best for america. and that is preparing america to be able to fend for itself when it comes to resources. when it comes to production and when it comes to negotiating from a position of strength. and once america reaches this, perhaps we can have

a new y'all's back conference. yeah. where this leaves europe, and i'll just my, my, for my, for the final say, this leads europe in a situation where europe is going to have to wake up and smell the coffee. but they will be doing it too late, too big, bad remain relevant at europe is making itself irrelevant as we speak. yeah, well, a dmitri no wonder trump doesn't take any of the europeans. seriously. there is no reason to and that is not a, a, a, on my part of the greenwood transform policy, but the europeans have made themselves physically relevant to be treated. it's very interesting here. the trump says he wants to end complex. but the problem with that thinking, i'm for ending them too, but he doesn't understand how to resolve them. and that is the problem with ukraine . he wants to end it, but he doesn't resolve it in the sense that the russians wants it to be resolved. in terms of their security interest,

that part of the equation is not part of western thinking right now. demetrius, as well as let's 1st of all, be honest and clear about trump's natural record. trump likes to boast about the fact that he didn't start any new wars. perhaps that's accurate, but he didn't maintain on just debacles. he continued to prosecute desk in war. although we talked about bringing it to an end. under his administration, the 1st administration us occupied large slots of syria and c admitted they were there to take the oil. he continued to arm israel, which is in a perpetual state of war with its neighbors. so he actually doesn't have a record as a peacemaker. nonetheless, i do think, peter, that he does have a sincere desire to bring this to the end a to the problem that trump confronts, however, and is probably one to which he is completely in a custom in, in his career as a business person, is that he has 0 leverage because the buy ministration managed to prolong this for

just long enough to bring the disaster to the doorstep of the truck. at the very moment when the ukraine army is on the verge of collapse and the sentients have failed. uh, i think the coverage of air in the us military stocks are almost there. so what leverage the does he have? he has none and therefore he's kind of flailing around. he doesn't really know what to do. the side truth for donald trump is he's there to sign the articles of confederation at this stage, and that's exactly what the circumstances present to him. and i don't know if he's mentally psychologically prepared for that sad role for the exactly me because freddy drum talks about consequences for, for russia, for put in. and uh, and he doesn't say exactly what he's going to do, but they will be consequences again. and that's why we're doing this program. i'm trying to get my hands around. well, if you want to end this and you want to talk to the russians,

why aren't you doing it? i mean, i mean 1st with both resolved that in 24 hours and then we get to know it's going to be in the 1st 100 days. and then some magical thinking on may 9th of a victory day in a, in russia, commemorating the defeat of the nazis. i mean, why would they signed an agreement on that day? i, i, nobody needs it. somebody needs to explain all this. to me, go ahead. freddy, well, peter, we, we, we live here, you know, we're trying to make sense of what's coming out of this us and ministration sense. i think everybody recognizes drums kind of tendency for i to bully and misguided common. so it is nothing you hear. what we're trying to understand really is the mindset. i think it's very important to understand the mindset of the us and ministration, dest, you administrations, as a program, we know during the presidential election, trump said that he wanted to move out to the troops, the us troops from around the world, and bring them back home trying to avoid conflicts around the welsh and bring peace

did well. so again, pieces of mindset and what if i'm difficult to believe in anything that has been presented so far is the id that we can get to piece, which is a process which is the outcome, the product of negotiations related to the terms of surrender. and unless we can stop to hear about the acceptance that you've trained might have been defeated in this particular battle in this particular world that the nato us starting to recognize that this conflict is, has to come to an end because there is no positive outcome possible for you try and then at that time there is no point to entertain any discussions with about to piece 1st your next step to the fit and then you ask the victor so yeah, but if i give you the opportunity to go show distance. yeah. but for the year you're being very, very rational about this. i'm going to go to mats right now, but it would, freddy's said, you know, be, be talking about taking pictures. we have to use the word capitulation on this

program, but not say that they're still the mindset in the west, the rush, it has to capitulate, we, we have made no progress because that's not going to happen. mats are headed up and that's the problem. and it's uh, the question is, how, how bloody of a nose does the west need to receive before they realize that russia has a severe of influence that we need to allow russia to have. now what i'm thinking about trump going, all in or, or seeming to go on in with the old monroe doctrine, is the fact that we, perhaps your can be reminded of the concept of acceptable swears of influence. that was the old. no, i mean, in mexico, it's a summer nation, but should mexico didn't invite chinese troops onto mexican soil? obviously, america is not going to accept that. and i think most countries in europe would say,

it's okay for america to, to, uh, and the chinese take the chinese away from mexico. and we need to remind europe about the fact that even during the cold war, you had buffer systems that you didn't touch. so we need but it's sad to say, but we need to go back to the cold warm mentality where we create borders and we create close. oh yeah, but no. okay, but i get where i get your drift where you're going here to meet. we can, can we say, you know, is for years of security inside of, you know, because that's what it's all about. it's about security and the indivisibility of security. this is something the west and used to believe in, but doesn't believe anymore, because because it's russia 40 seconds before we go to the break, dimitri. yes, but there's also a certain error of unreality to some of this conversation with all due respect to our conference in here. i don't think that your business is part of the equation

here. the series of security are going to be turned in by the united states and the russian federation. and i don't think the european union at this stage just going to be a significant factor in that. and i think the sooner that the europeans get the group on that reality, the, the, the, the better off it will be. yeah, exactly. you will do in a way, gentlemen, before we go to the break, we're at 1945 again because it's going to be 2 outside powers is go to decide the fate of europe, and that's europe's fault. in this case, gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here we go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll keep are going to continue our discussion on ukraine state with our to the know better places to be. is the village in the some most beautiful features is purely anarchist in the sense that there are no authorities within the city. everyone is their own citizen. half the people are here because then the rest,

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the okay, want to go back to dimitry. i want you to be able to finish your answer um, before we went to the break it before you do, though, it's already been mentioned on this program and it's the, it's the alta 2 point. oh, now if you look at most histories of the cold war, this was a imposed piece on europe, but europe had destroyed itself and become irrelevant in international politics. but that's essentially what it's done again. and i would prefer that they would be everyone would be a shareholder in their faith, but in the case we have now, we could have, we're approaching an escalation, possibly that would uh see us uh, confronting world war 3. so maybe we, but we do need a you all to hear because from the russians position, we have to solve all problems here. and not just who's going to rule in care of,

for example, in the, in the americans just don't have the imagination to do that. right now, dmitri, fortunately, there's even less, you know, prospects for effective negotiations with the european is going to negotiate on behalf of europeans personally, a personal level under land right now you guys are on the winning team. oh, okay. no, do you have to put democratic legitimacy on that? sure. what's his on his way out the door? i'm a crone who has a 21 percent approval rating. i mean, who is going to negotiate on behalf of the europeans? europeans made themselves earlier. relevant to my opinion, the nail in the coffin of european real era, a relevancy was when the entire e. you buried the fact that the binding ministration blew up the north stream pipeline. i mean they, they did absolutely nothing to defend their interest. and now we have this ridiculous spectacle, or trump is calling up to the danish prime minister and demanding that you hand

over greenland. europe is whether or not a serious the european reaction is extraordinarily towing there just sitting there, paralyzed by gear and the headlight. so although as to european because i am also european purchase, the canadian, i am ashamed and deeply dr. distraught by the situation, the political realities here, these are the political realities. and so ultimately, this is going to be determined by 2 great powers and europe is going to be a bystander, even though europe's interest or more affected than those of anybody like this particular war. yeah, and, and probably how is all of this going to actually help ukraine? i mean, the more the americans and the europeans quote unquote, help ukraine. the smaller ukraine gets its population get smaller, its prospects are dimmer. i mean, maybe ukraine has had enough help from the west. freddy, as well. the ukraine is pretty much left on that side with them. and you've got britain on one side in the united states. and as demetrius say,

europe has become extremely relevant, has been, we put our eggs into, into send baskets for, for decades, and let the united states run to show our policies and our security affairs. so we have no solutions to offer. and so we have a decline in popularity among so teenagers and key leading economies in europe, namely germany and france as well. so options are pretty much locked and we think kelly see already under your inclinations under the trying to draft plans and, and white papers on the how to, to revamp their security and defense policies. but it's what tech is, and it's not a mac route going around $200.00 various european states, trying to us for more money, more contributions to us, to defiance and increasing the, you know, defense to expenditures, to full $5.00 to cents. it's ridiculous. this is just between what donald trump wants and buddy, it's not representing, and it's not providing ukraine with any solutions because they're all new solutions . that is the bottom line. it is at the end of the day or, or what it was for the,

for the wrong reasons. and 80 breached to do that, could have led to peace, you know, and then need to administer agreements as well as the, the, the, the piece agreements. and if i seem to take it back to, to, you could have provided a at a very early stage is solutions. so the problem is when you let the country go on, and so you have a, an outgoing administration that is just keep on spending more money to avoid efforts. ukraine has both to lie on the and the default that they could secure a new membership, dis, wait sorted out. and i think you were coming to reality. kerry shows that this is not going to happen. and unfortunately, the 2 major powers, you, uh, do united states and rush, i would have to come to some kind of agreement. and it's going to be extremely hot because we can clearly see the results inside the us administration. still promoting and trying to to, to bring more support to ukraine when the president itself is trying to talk about

peace. so these dichotomy is a, obviously a extremely worrying and consenting on the global stage. and we cannot make any sense out of it because we don't know what the, all the discussions behind the back doors between the kremlin and washington dc. well, so it's ready. what time i, i don't think there are really any discussions going on right now. okay. and we, i think we would have an indication of that, of what direction these things are going to go by the time we in this program. somebody else is going to come out with a new plan in washington that the russians haven't even heard about. this is where we are, you know, matt's one of the things that i found always very, very puzzling, even way before the special military operation. i do program after program about european security, and i would always ask the question, if you're so afraid of russia and rushes so aggressive, why is it hard to get nato countries to pay for their defense? i mean, if it's an ex, essential threat, you'd think everyone say, you know, cut social programs,

we have to defend ourselves. but nobody in europe is saying that there's people in brussels in, in london and in washington. okay. and the arms of producers go ahead match. it's very simple, it's because of the politicians and the military planners within the nature or within the european union. they know that russia is not an existential threat to them. it's a, it's us who say i, i could have respected the policies of the european union. if the european union have said, russia is a major threat to us, we're going to take our young men and women from the european union, and we're going to send them to ukraine to the front lines. we're going to have them fight russia now, because russia is a threat to us. but that's obviously not the case. so what they're doing is they're keeping the conflict on a low burn. now, in order to one,

facilitate the military industrial profits, which in turn, pays for the think tanks, which in turn pays for the politicians. secondly, the slow burn european union. there your opinion, it was hoping it would weaken russia. however, it touched as a strength of strength and russia, and now they are in full panic and they're trying to come up with these silly 200 year old. yeah, that started. so i just want to tell everybody the u. k. as a 100 year security agreement, the correct word, we don't even know if your credit is going to make it to the end of the year that this is an base our fantasy. go ahead with i. i remember reading in one of my books, the charles, the goal, one of the true statesmen of europe, a charles to go as old friends, french pressure, and said that treaties are like roses. they're beautiful until they are not. and

this is the same with the truth is that the european union now are trying to make amends by signing here and there. but the european union, as they're irrelevant, they're proven themselves weak and they're proven themselves irrelevant. but by doing this off, i'm not sure. so it's, it's hopefully at the united states and russia can, and this, and europe and union best just sit down and be quiet in class. well, the grow, know the mattress lately, but there's a problem there. there's a big problem. there can be 3 big problem. there's a big problem there, dimitri, because objectively speaking, looking at minutes, one minutes to assemble, watches the russians trust, the west, we could go on computer, we could the, the anti ballistic. and so 3 of the intermediate nuclear for us is trudy. the nuclear deal with it ran the bomb negotiated, these people

t treat treaties like toilet paper. i mean, it's not quite is uh, you know, a politic is the shells the government for. but that is the reality. they have absolutely no regard for their own commitments. and the russians now understand that painfully well. and so any, i think resolution is going to have to provide to the russians, a level of security that goes well beyond a paper agreement. and really what it is that, what to give the russians the kind of security they require and reasonably desire without that goes beyond the treaty. well, that's the, the destruction of the ukrainian army. that's what it is. i don't think this is going to stop until the ukranian army no longer has the ability to pose a threat to russia. i think the lensky will have to be gone. you'll have to be replaced by somebody who has a grip on reality. and only then will a deal get done. and that's no matter what donald trump says, no matter what the european say, that's where we're at. at this particular stage,

i, i believe in, upfront, a frightening the one of the other issues here is that, you know, ukraine will continue fighting because it's a lead lensky and his cronies. they're making a lot of money off of this. i'm sure it's all been squirreled away here, but this will go on until the us and nato decided it is no longer worth while because of russians. they're winning. why should they stop winning? or freddy is exactly. so a matter of, it's a perspective i think from on the, on donald trump scans that looking at this potential negotiations from these on a conference from what they know, what they can handled. and the reality of the battlefield actually deep tight is kind of negotiations. and then on the other side, of course, the reality, not that you do your politics, but the economy and the macro economies realities also kitchenaid and say you have it for europe that is completely united, create this flies entertaining. the reality of a multi point of welds and so we drawn an independent nations, a powerful nation are, you, will,

you aspire to be on the confirmation. you need to have this instrument, you need to revise the audio systems you know, from, you know, as i said, transportations the way you bank the way your, your transfer your money. everything needs to be re adapted to uh, internet independent fashion, to address the multiple, well, something that we have not done, something that russia has been able to do during the conflicts. so i just sent time to have the country a battle to fight, and on the other side, they are addressing this important tools and instruments that are required for this country. that's going to survive the shift within the macro economic say. we've been that down and ukraine will also be let down. that is the reality. the bridge we're trying to, the likely i believe and always predicted that there will be a replacement. so obviously landscape should come 1st before the negotiations on to time will exceed probably the lose needed or perhaps a return up significant in ukraine or for the american liskey are still beach and i so it, it really depends on that. yeah. yeah. but then today when to see you then yeah, but that,

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