said welcome back to going underground bulk of single around the world from the heart of the middle east, where hundreds of thousands of palestinians, the volume is of 16 months of u. k. u. s. u, i'm genocide, are on the way home. this is israel area, the bombards lebanon, but the so called us steve state faces k also will be not in the us back yard with donald trump's threats against columbia succeeded in demonstrating us power outside of cuba, nicaragua, and venezuela, an african mineral superpower, congo the u. s embassy has been under attack f b i and intel boss, fix cache patel and lieutenant colonel chose. he gathered confirmation hearings. demonstrate the fee is of the military industrial complex. as trump tries to have a whole decades of dirty tricks against the people of the usa and the people all around the world, that alone support for dictate as a lend skis, nazis and ukraine estimates the washington town model the ca quietly admitted the likelihood of code 19 which killed perhaps 20000000, emanated from a foul chee by a wolf or a lab, least in china as to freedom of speech in the vessel states of europe, switzerland,

just incarcerated. truth teller, how the name, a founder of the electronic intifada. just days after it rolled out the red carpet for his riley genocide, president, is that god so i'll get that was another truth. tell that max boom until the editor in chief of the grey zone joins me again from washington. d. c. max, thanks so much for coming back on. i should start all by saying is the grey zone there now in the white house that the invitation of caroline leave it trumps. new press secretaries is very clear. if you wanted the presumably organizations like yourselves right there in the heart of power downstairs from the oval office. well, i'm hoping to be allowed back into the state department press room. but uh, i did put in an application. and the application form is about 5 lines long. i imagine thousands of people, including internet ran those, put in applications as well, and it will take a long time to process them. uh,

the white house press briefing room will likely become even more of a zoo than it was before. i don't know how it's possible to call on them what it'll all show up. but uh the, the kind of rumor mill has it that the trump administration is power at prioritizing those who are pro trunk voices. right. but in the rest, you mentioned this stay button department. people around the world will know, especially across the global south of you and sam was saying at the tony blinking last press conference sites was marco ruby and the new secretary of state may use that against you. whether it's a trump administration or not. so it's unclear, i did hear from sam that he had some trouble getting back in, but we'll see what happens. i mean, the reason we did that and we interrupted tony blinking it to the extent that it wasn't even an interruption. i caught a humanitarian intervention,

was for 2 reasons. number one, we had actually been respecting the process as blinking ordered sam, who's a need to do when he attempted to ask a question. we've been going for 15 months, raising our hands following the process. and never felt violating the rules. but for months and months, matthew miller, his press secretary, blinking, suppressed secretary, had blacklisted us and refused to call on us. number 2, the rest of the press refuse to confront blinking in the way that he deserved. after completely subverting the process inside the state department, when his own staff was reporting to him that us weapons were being used to shred children in large numbers in the gaza strip. he throws them out and led some of them. like josh paul, who was in charge of arms control to actually leave and become whistle blowers. it was also the press enjoy to as tony blinking said in the opening, his opening statement when i began to intervene. and he was friends with so many of

these reporters, and they were hanging out it fancy jose andres restaurants together in washington. this is not a relationship that is at the cool with someone who is an architect of what i consider to be the holocaust of our time. so i thought it was necessary to do. but if i'm allowed back in, i intend to continue to respect the process. and just to be clear, people can watch the video of you trying to be a journalist and the state department and the shame full behavior of your colleagues, the other journalists, actually speaking of that away from god that could it be ukraine, the destroys butcher, blinking re dictation because there's an audit of the money that was sent out under the i don't know whether it was the by the ministration. a lot of control the see who was running your country over the bus you could bring can actually be got finally not for janice, i know for the all across in gaza. but for that well it's,

it's kind of remarkable. now to watch usa i d, suspend many of its grand so broad and 90 percent of ukrainian media has seen its funding dry up. so the u. s. was bad, basically created, not just a, a nato colony, a with advanced weapon systems on russia's border, but also one of the most well funded propaganda apparatus is on the planet. now if you look at homogeneity, for example, a ukrainian media outlet that just sprouted up on the eve of the my done crew, they're begging for money. they're, they're pan handling on the front page of their websites because their funding is dried up. and this actually includes funding to neo nazi tied activists from c 14 who are complaining see 14 being a neo nazi group in ukraine that has been sponsored by state interest, as is also seeing it's funding dry up. so for all the liberals who freaked out over

e landmarks sig, heil, they enthusiastically supported the whole project ukraine, including the state sponsored neo nazis. and now they're howling about usa id cutting these organizations off. this seems to me to be a huge scandal that of course western media is sleeping under the rug. yeah. and we await that audit. but to be clear, you are in a death list. i'm one of those outlets, presumably funded by one of these programs. i know the servers was apparently located in virginia if it is ukrainian after which is but so many people that have been on this program on death lists, including you as we are referring to mere road formats or the so called piece baker, which has been sponsored by elements in the ukranian interior ministry and they list langley virginia, home of the c i a on their website that's sort of to troll people. we do know that

this is backed by ukrainian state and i'm not on that web site to be sure which is actually kind of disturbing because my colleagues on the apartment hill and aaron model, that's all right, your not on a value. that's why i always thought you are, you know, any, in spite clearly know it became that we became a reverse morality of who with the best sources were on ukraine for gentler scholars as well. they've listed many americans. it's a massive scandal that we the american taxpayer funding this government, which is putting us on death lists many watching will know that daria, do you know, the daughter of alexandra doogan, the russian nationalist philosopher who is herself a foreign policy analyst was assassinated by ukrainian forces sent by ukrainian intelligence, and then marked as liquidated on the new road for its websites. i was targeted by a separate ukranian government initiative called mo, far which sent out all my personal information, including my address,

or ported address. the purported addresses of all my family members and their work associates to thousands of journalists and activists around the world more far as based in london, and is staffed by a former ukrainian government officials. and recently there was a docking attempt on me as well through pro ukrainian channels on telegram. this is just persistence. it's an attempt to intimidate and threaten anyone who is a public figure who questions the disc, imbroglio in scandal of over $17055000000000.00 of us aid to ukraine, which is led to a complete blood bath in which an entire generation of ukrainians has been wasted to thrown in vans against their will and sent into a slaughter house as well as many russians. and now the economist, which had been touting all of ukraine, suppose a games on the battlefield now, concedes that the ukrainian front is collapsing while flooding mirrors the lensky

himself and an interview a curse. late in interview with the pod cast, bro, lex friedman complained that out of that 175000000000, only half of it actually reached ukraine. and most of it is going to contractors in the us. this is money laundering and we are being targeted, our families are being targeted here in the us by ukrainian government interest for criticizing it. so, you know, one good, one thing that, you know, republican senators are the trump administration could do is finally cut off this death list. i mean, to be clear, the, i mean in fantasy, i would name a brave joy list or like you were exposing the october 7th, right pokes the amnesty international. and some other of those thoughts of groups sometimes on kind be referred to as kind of doing this. the i is work for the most of the time. you didn't get any support from reporters with that board is, or any of these sorts of organizations. for the death threats against you,

because presumably they're funded by the same channels of funding that at the end that may end under trumps. uh, uh, judicious ending of usaid. well, our, my colleague at the grades on jeremy laredo was jailed by israel for his reporting on iranian missile strikes on israel is reporting covered the same areas that credentialed mainstream reporters and covered and he was picked up at of westbank checkpoint. few, it was, it was obviously political. he was subjected to really harsh conditions, abuse, taunted by soldiers, and accused by israel, of assisting an enemy during war time, which carries a maximum penalty of life in prison or even death. it was eventually led out. i mean, this is a ridiculous accusation,

and we did receive some support from press freedom organizations like the committee to protect journalists, which was refreshing. but at the same time, the committee to protect journalists has refused to recognize scores and scores of palestinian journalists who are killed in gaza deliberately by the as rarely, military as such as journalists who are killed for doing their work. um, so we still expect a lot more from these corporate in state adjacent press freedom organizations, but it is refreshing to see support. i haven't seen any support for all the other nima. the electronic intifada founder who was bundled into a van by undercover cops who violently arrested him in zurich as he was about to deliver a talk for the swiss palestine committee. he spent 2 days alone in a windowless cell and before being deported, he committed no crime in the country. this is part of a trend across the west. we see in london of work kit claret. burge,

my colleague from the grades on, was hauled off in airplane as he returned to visit his family. a british citizen interrogated for 8 hours about his work with the grays on a. so when stanley rated at home, i had his device seized b c's devices. he used, he's a colleague of albany, met electronic intifada. sarah wilkinson, a palestine solidarity activist rated at home, had her home turned upside down by british counter terror cops and new laws coming in to suppress speech critical of israel. this is a trend across the west, and it's being, it's, it's what we're witnessing. especially in the so called garden of europe, is liberal democratic values being cast to the wayside. and systematically urinated upon by the european leadership across the spectrum in order to protect a psychotic little apartheid state called israel,

mexico. until i'll stop you. the more from the founder and editor in chief of the grades on after this break the the welcome back to going under granite still here with the founder and editor in chief of the grades on mex blumenthal, max, you were talking about the catastrophic tyler terry and press system in, in your of i should just say that the ca, whistleblower,

as of right mind who also like jeremy, look for a new upgrade zone. was reviewing his riley plans to attack it around and is being prosecuted right now. um, you know, uh this new trump, a parent opened this regarding chris freedom at tucker carlson probably will benefit out of that because he'll get his press credentials pretty easily. what did you make of him saying there was an assassination attempt plans by the so called biden bite and blinking sullivan powers administration to kill booth and that, in my opinion, yeah, i don't know what to make of it. i do know that the ukrainian government attempted to kill vladimir putin with a drone attack on the kremlin, which failed. and that, that is one of their objectives. and it does appear to be it aligns with the objectives that we've exposed that were outlined in documents by

a secret british military intelligence sell overseen by a veteran military intelligence official and m. i 6 official, chris donnelly. we've exposed it through a series of investigations that the grades own by kit clarin berg, where the ukrainians military, as it loses ground on the battlefield, as being redirected through into kind of terror operations on russian soil sabotaged operations. we publicize for the 1st time, the secret blueprint to blow up the courage bridge, which was attempted by ukrainian forces through a terror attack, attacks on pipelines, but also attacks on russian railways, assassinations, of, of russian public figures. and we recently saw the assassination of the russian general who led the information operations

on exposing us funded bio labs in ukraine and also in poking holes in the u. s. claims about siri and chemical attacks. and he was assassinated outside his home by a creating an intelligence asset. so it all seems to be fairly consistent. i have no idea though. i would have no way of confirming whether a high level figures in the body administration actually set out to kill pruitt. and i also remember recall biden's words at in warsaw and his 1st major speech trying to rally the world, the support ukraine. and he supposedly went off script and said something to the effect of this man cannot be allowed to rule referring to vladimir putin and the, you know, binding ministration, walk that back. but it was essentially

a call for regime change and it focused on one man vladimir putin, just as he said, the north stream pipeline would not be allowed to allow gas to flow to germany. do you expect uh these papers to be declassified under elections a call soon was talking to a friend of the show met to a be when he made that to a sudden revelation about the plans to kill boots and when we get the details annoyed stream, do you expect uh from uh uh a trump administration thats vowing to open up uh, a lot of information is kept secret from the us public. not before deal with ukraine. i highly doubt it. trump is actually mirrored when asked about it so which it in itself is revealing that donald trump refused to comment on who is responsible for nato. and the binding administration is doing all they could to deny us hand including leaking stories to the washington post another mainstream. publications about ukraine's responsibility and

a secret operation. as of which in which vladimir zalinski was kept in the dark. i don't expect anything new, but i do commend independent investigators like eric anderson. the swedish engineer who led the 1st independent expedition to the site to the north stream blast a said drones to the pipelines, to actually investigate and has done a whole lot more than the state investigators in germany and sweden and elsewhere who have basically buried the entire investigation, i mean that's really a red flag right there, that this investigation is the and their investigations have been closed with no findings and away from the vassal space there. um do do also expect uh the cash implication of the filed to you by a well fed documents now the c i, a admission has come through. clearly cove is

a very important part of the drum psyche. and how shocked where you, when you, when you heard the truth finally being uh, coming from langley that, uh, they were searching by a welfare weapons. what does it say about the chinese communist by the allowing americans to research and pyre of weapons in any case on their, on their soil. if it see eyes did not issue a a conclusion it's, it's more sort of a like high likelihood finding under new leadership. uh, which is more hostile to china. but my colleagues, sam, who say, who also intervened in the blinking final press conference broke the story. that usa id and the pentagon through darpa were funding eco health alliance, which was conducting gain of function research, very dangerous gain of function research at the one on institute over ology. and

that to me seems that that's the area where we deserve more. di, classification, more a testimony from figures like peter das sac, who are involved as well as anthony vouching, and have voucher you having been pardoned preemptively by joe biden, on his way out. actually opens him up to more testimony. the public does deserve answers about this virus which continues to up and lives and whose response was mishandled. so catastrophically by figures who appear to have been involved in this dangerous gain of function research and who appear to have lied about it. that was the whole reason why biden had to pardon anthony factory, which was that he misled the public about his role in gain of function research. yeah, you said how responsible a curriculum is like the crime of the century. yeah, and the corrupt joe biden. the pardons and as you imply, that means that the con,

take the 5th in any said that they'll congressional investigation and default. she's role in creating cove and 19 right. that's what i meant. it opens them up to a much more revealing, potentially revealing questioning. now on, on, um israel, i mean over here in the u. a, it's like this is by, they had like 200000 or 200 north kaiser and 2 hours cools mount against relocation of guys in saudi arabia, putting its foot down saying absolutely no normalization of any kind. and list the palestinian state. what do you think of me? it's the 2000 pound bombs now being allowed in trump saying it has nothing to do and then yeah, who left and then you know, tried to make out. it was a friendly gesture from the united states and single tenuously, the 1st 4 and needed to be invited to washington to meet president. trump is that in yahoo? what's your take as well?

donald trump is in despite that beings a seminal force in securing this cease fire deal. i don't believe there would have been a society of commons i had been re elected. donald trump is planning to preside over the most pro is real or make is real great. again, administration in american history with a $100000000.00 in campaign donations from is really intelligence asset. miriam madison, propelling and forward, surrounded by figures were deeply embedded in the is rally, the the, the architecture of greater israel from his son in law, jared cushion or to david friedman, who was in bassett, or before noon, and bassett, or is mike huckabee you doesn't even recognize the existence of a west bank sees as real as the future landing pad for the messiah. at least the phonic us it bassinger to the u. n. is

a catholic lady who has basically been purchased by marian. that'll send to do israel's bidding. and donald trump didn't get in securing the cease fire from gaza, has ensured that the regional war that would have up ended. the 1st part of his administration. the 1st year of his administration of his tenure did not happen. we should just say we're having these interview before any, perhaps the imminent strike from israel and iran. well, yeah i'll, i'll get to that. donald trump, this is donald trump did not want a potential conflict with the wrong right away. he it, and it was, it was, it was heading there. yeah. and was sort of the testing ground for what israel was planning to do in iran, and that is stop thanks to the cease fire the trumpet as golf, buddy steve woodcock secured. a trop is handed over the west bank to israel effectively. israel's rampaging through the northern west bank, trying to stamp out all signs of resistance around janine where the palestinian

authority is lost control it is working to be found on run east jerusalem. the us is fully on board with that does crediting the un refugee works agency. it is allowing settlers ending in bolding, settlers to rampage and carry out price tag terror attacks and post it in on post indian villages. by reversing one of the only things, the blinking by the administration did to keep israel on a leash which was to sanction for violent a sarah settler terrorist. those sanctions are gone. that sends a message to the rest of the settlers. and the west bank is much more significant to israel then does a god as a warehouse for surplus humanity in the demographic trench war that zion is, are waging with the palestinian people, the west bank. and particularly the northern west bank and the southern west bank

have run in nablus. those 2 areas are so rich with religious significance for the settler movements, and which really represents the future of zionism and the future of israeli leadership. then israel can't afford to let that go. yeah, i cannot afford to actually find honest indian state to take root. yeah, we're coming to them. but of course the corrupt palestinian authority, then we'll kind of be neutralize. if that actually will happen. and i'm egypt enjoyed measured se refusing point blank, any of the despite no doubt threats from trump to go along with the trump agenda. but then so we can say that those successive raising regimes in your country have helped thomas basically. because the bible blinking regime is we saw when the prisoners were sent to back to israel to the october 7th prisoners. mazda has never been stronger than admission from the outgoing blinking state department . and if the westbank goes,

because trump is given to go ahead to destroy it. basically these are the grades as recruiting subjects for palestinian resistance in recent years. and you have a, an ailing net in yahoo maybe on his last legs and the ultimate agenda. benjamin netanyahu has been to drag the united states into a direct, military confrontation with iran. so that is certainly in the cards. that's something that in yeah, who expects out of trump? and with donald trump, what you're going to get even more than in his 1st term is a lifting of the mask or lifting of the mask on the trans atlantic liberals so called liberal democracies. but also on is really a parts side. and i expect, or consider it highly possible that israel attempt to annex large sections of the westbank under donald trump, which will lift the mask on apartheid. what will they do with those palestinians? they under international law have to take care of them and provide them with postal

services and sewage. and of course they're going to gaza fi the west bank and declare them surplus humanity as well. so donald trump is forcing history into an acceleration as mode where many of these conflicts are going to erupt much more quickly than we expected. and it is real. also feels like it's on borrowed time, particularly as it's set, this whole state is centered so much around that in yahoo, who sees him that his lifeline is coming to an end. so it wants to reshape the region rapidly and believes that it may only have 4 more years to do so maximum adult if i care. thanks a lot of options. that's the show when we're back on monday with the brand new episode of going undergrad until then keep in touch, my role as, as you media is an odd cents in your country and general going, i'll be glad to be around the come towards new and old episodes of going

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