the afternoon or time seeing welcome back to going underground pool. casting all around the world from the heart of the middle east where hundreds of thousands of palestinians, the volume is of 16 months of u. k. u. s. u, i'm genocide, are on the way home. this is israel area, the bombards lebanon, but the so called us steve skate faces. chaos will be not in the us back yard with donald trump's threats against columbia succeeded in demonstrating us power outside of cuba, nicaragua, and venezuela, an african mineral superpower, congo the u. s. embassy has been under attack f, b i and entail boss fix cash patel and lieutenant colonel tools. he gathered confirmation hearings demonstrate the fee is of the military industrial complex. as trump tries to have a whole decades of dirty tricks against the people of the usa and the people all around the world, that alone support for dictate as a lend skis, nazis and ukraine estimates the washington town model. the ca quietly admitted the likelihood that could be 19, which killed perhaps 20000000, emanated from

a foul chee by a wolf or lab, least in china. as to freedom of speech in the vessel states of europe, switzerland, just incarcerated truth, the name, a founder of the electronic intifada. just days after it rolled out the red carpet for his really genocide president, he's that good. so again, that was another truth teller max movements. all editor in chief of the grade zone joins me again from washington d. c. max, thanks so much for coming back on. i should spell it all by saying is the gray zone there. now in the white house that the invitation of caroline leave it trump's new press, secretaries is very clear. if you wanted the presumably organizations like yourselves right there in the heart of power downstairs from the oval office as well. i'm hoping to be allowed back into the state department press room. but uh, i did put in an application and the application form is about 5 lines long. i imagine thousands of people, including internet ran those,

put in applications as well, and it will take a long time to process them. the white house press briefing room will likely become even more of a zoo than it was before. i don't know how it's possible to call on them what it will show up. but uh the, the kind of rumor mill has it that the trump administration is prior at prioritizing those who are pro trump voices. right. but in the rest, you mentioned this stay button department, people around the world will know, especially across the global south of you and sam. we say any at the tony blinking last press conference sites was marco ruby and the new secretary of state may use that against you. whether it's a trump administration or not. so it's unclear. i did hear from sam that he had some trouble getting back in, but we'll see what happens. i mean the, the reason we did that and we interrupted tony blinking it to the extent that it

wasn't even an interruption. i caught a humanitarian intervention, was for 2 reasons. number one, we had actually been respecting the process as blinking ordered sam, who say, need to do when he attempted to ask a question. we've been going for 15 months, raising our hands following the process. and never felt violating the rules. but for months and months, matthew miller, his press secretary, blinking, suppressed secretary, had blacklisted us and refused to call on us. number 2, the rest of the press refuse to confront blinking in the way that he deserved. after completely subverting the process inside the state department, when his own staff was reporting to him that us weapons were being used to shred children in large numbers in the gaza strip. he throws them out and lead some of them. like josh paul, who is in charge of arms control to actually leave and become whistle blowers. it was also the press enjoy a as tony blinking said in the opening,

his opening statement when i began to intervene. and he was friends with so many of these reporters, and they were hanging out it fancy jose andres restaurants together in washington. this is not a relationship that is ethical with someone who is an architect of what i consider to be the holocaust of our time. so i thought it was necessary to do, but if i'm allowed back in, i intend to continue to respect the process. and just to be clear, people can watch the video of you trying to be a journalist and the state department and the shame full behavior of your colleagues, the other journalists, actually speaking of that away from guys that could it be ukraine, that destroys butcher blinking rep mutation because there's an audit of the money that was sent out under the i don't know whether it was the by the ministration. a lot of control the cv who is running your country over the bus you could bring can

actually be got finally, not for janice, i know for the holocaust in gaza. but for that well, it's, it's kind of remarkable. now to watch usa, i d, suspend many of its grants. a broad and 90 percent of ukrainian media has seen its funding dry up. so the u. s. was had basically created not just a, a nato colony, a with advanced weapon systems on russia's border, but also one of the most well funded propaganda apparatus is on the planet. and now if you look at ramada sky, for example, a ukrainian media outlet that just sprouted up on the eve of the my done crew, they're begging for money. they're, they're pan handling on the front page of their websites because their funding is dried up. and this actually includes funding to neo nazi tied activists from c 14 who are complaining see 14 being

a neo nazi group in ukraine that has been sponsored by state interest, as is also seeing it's funding dry up. so for all the liberals who freaked out over e landmarks sig, kyle, they enthusiast equally supported the whole project ukraine, including the state sponsored neo nazis. and now there housing about usa id cutting these organizations off. this seems to me to be a huge scandal that, of course western media sweeping under the rug. yeah. and we await that audit, but to repay you are in a death list of one of those outlets, presumably funded by one of these programs. i know the servers was apparently located in virginia if it is ukrainian after which is put so many people that have been on this program on death lists, including you as we are referring to mere road formats or the so called piece baker, which has been sponsored by elements in the ukranian interior ministry and they list langley virginia,

home of the c i a on their website that's sort of to troll people. we do know that this is backed by ukranian state. and i'm not on that website to be sure which is actually kind of disturbing because my colleagues on the upon pill and aaron model, that's all right, your not on a value. that's why i always thought you were, you know, any, in spite clearly, you know, it became that we became a reverse morality of who the best sources were on ukraine for journalist scholars as well. they've listed many americans. it's a massive scandal that we the american taxpayer funding this government, which is putting us on death lists many watching will know that daria, do you know, the daughter of alexandra doogan, the russian nationalist philosopher who is herself a foreign policy analyst was assassinated by ukrainian forces and by ukrainian intelligence, and then marked as liquidated on the road for its websites. i was targeted by

a separate ukranian government initiative called mo, far which sent out all my personal information, including my address or pointed address. the purported addresses of all my family members and their work associates to thousands of journalists and activists around the world. more far as based in london and is staffed by former ukrainian government officials. and recently there was a docking attempt on me as well through pro ukrainian channels on telegram. this is just persistence. it's an attempt to intimidate and threaten anyone who is a public figure who questions the disc, imbroglio in scandal of over $17055000000000.00 of us aid to ukraine, which is led to a complete blood bath in which an entire generation of ukrainians has been wasted to thrown in vans against their will and sent into a slaughter house as well as many russians. and now the economist,

which had been touting all of ukraine, suppose a games on the battlefield now, concedes that the ukrainian front is collapsing while flooding mirrors of lensky himself and an interview a curse. late in interview with the pod cast, bro, lex friedman complained that out of that 175000000000, only half of it actually reached ukraine. and most of it is going to contractors in the us. this is money laundering and we are being targeted, our families are being targeted here in the u. s. by ukrainian government interest for criticizing it. so, you know, one good, one thing that, you know, republican senators are the trump administration could do is finally cut off this death list. i mean, to be clear, the, i mean in fantasy, i would name a brave joy list or like you were exposing the october 7th, right pokes of amnesty international. and some other of those thoughts of groups uh, sometimes on kind be referred to as kind of doing this is work for them. and most

of the time you didn't get any support from reporters with that board is or any of these sorts of organizations for the death threats against you. because presumably they're funded by the same channels of funding that occur. and that may and under trumps judicious ending of usaid. well, our, my colleague at the grades on jeremy laredo was jailed by israel for his reporting on iranian missile strikes on israel. his reporting covered the same areas that credentialed mainstream reporters have covered and he was picked up at of westbank checkpoints. he was, it was obviously political. he was subjected to really harsh conditions, abuse, taunted by soldiers, and accused by israel, of assisting an enemy during war time, which carries a maximum penalty of life in prison or even death. it was eventually led out. i

mean, this is a ridiculous accusation, and we did receive some support from press freedom organizations like the committee to protect journalists, which was refreshing. but at the same time, the committee to protect journalists has refused to recognize scores and scores of palestinian journalists who are killed in gaza deliberately by the israeli military as such as journalists who are killed for doing their work. um, so we still expect a lot more from these corporate in state adjacent press freedom organizations, but it is refreshing to see support. i haven't seen any support for all the other niema. the electronic intifada founder who was bundled into a van by undercover cops who violently arrested him in zurich as he was about to deliver a talk for the swiss palestine committee. he spent 2 days alone in a windowless cell and before being deported, he committed no crime in the country. and this is part of

a trend across the west. we see in london of work kit claret. burge, my colleague from the grades on, was called off in airplane as he returned to visit his family. a british citizen interrogated for 8 hours about his work with the grays on a. so when stanley rated at home, i had his device seized be c devices. he used, he's a colleague of albany, met electronic intifada. sarah wilkins in a palestine solidarity activist rated at home, had her home turned upside down by british counter terror cops and new laws coming in to suppress speech critical of israel. this is a trend across the west, and it's being, it's, it's what we're witnessing. especially in the so called garden of europe, is liberal democratic values being cast to the wayside. and systematically urinated upon by the european leadership across the spectrum in order to protect

a psychotic little apartheid state called israel, mexico. until i'll stop you. the more from the founder and editor in chief of the grace. and after this break, the there's no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy the earth. is the case for the med, most of the people. i tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also of soon, this is the 3rd world will receive re washing press for so the funder line likes to say we have the tools while we just start with stability and business deal. so what should be living on that we have a very good propaganda. you know,

a price here in your i think we don't know the aftermath any time that you're not allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the questions. some more questions ask a better the answer is will be the welcome back to going under granite still here with the founder and editor in chief of the grades are next me michel, the max. we were talking about the catastrophic tele terry impress system in, in your of i should just say that the ca, visible or as of right mind, who also like jeremy, look for a new upgrade zone. was revealing his riley plans to attack it around and is being prosecuted right now. um you know, uh this new trump a parent opened this regarding press freedom tucker. carlson probably will benefit out of that because um he'll get his press credentials pretty easily. what did you make of him saying that was an assassination attempt plans by the so called biden

blinking sullivan powers administration to kill pollution? that, in my opinion, yeah, i don't know what to make of it. i do know that the ukranian government attempted to kill vladimir putin with a drone attack on the kremlin, which failed. and that, that is one of their objectives. and it does appear to be it aligns with the objectives that we've exposed that were outlined in documents by a secret british military intelligence sell overseen by a veteran military intelligence official and m. i 6 official, chris donnelly. we've exposed that through a series of investigations that the grades zone by kit clarin berg, where the ukrainians military, as it loses ground on the battlefield, is being redirected through into kind of terror operations on russian soil

sabotaged operations. we to publicize for the 1st time, the secret blueprint to blow up the courage bridge, which was attempted by ukrainian forces through a terror attack. attacks on pipelines, but also attacks on russian railways, assassinations, of, of russian public figures. and we recently saw the assassination of the russian general who led the information operations on exposing us funded bio labs in ukraine and also in poking holes in the u. s. claims about syria and chemical attacks. and he was assassinated outside his home by a creating an intelligence asset. so it all seems to be fairly consistent. i have no idea though. i would have no way of confirming whether high level figures and

the by didn't ministration actually set out to kill put. and i also remember recall biden's words at in warsaw at his 1st major speech trying to rally the world, the support ukraine. and he supposedly went off script and said something to the effect of this man cannot be allowed to rule referring to vladimir putin and the, you know, binding ministration, walk that back. but it was essentially a call for regime change and it focused on one man vladimir putin, just as he said, the north stream pipeline would not be allowed to allow gas to flow to germany. do you expect uh, these papers to be declassified under i should say, call somebody to look into for individual med die be when he made that. a sudden revelation about the plans to kill boots and when we get the details annoyed stream . do you expect uh from uh uh a trump administration thats vowing to open up uh,

a lot of information is kept secret from the us public or not before deal with the crane. i highly doubt it. trump is actually mirrored when asked about it so which it in itself is revealing that donald trump refused to comment on who is responsible for nato. and the binding administration is doing all they could to deny us hand including leaking stories to the washington post another mainstream. publications about ukraine's responsibility and a secret operation of which in which vladimir zalinski was kept in the dark. i don't expect anything new, but i do commend independent investigators like eric anderson, the swedish engineer who led the 1st independent expedition to the site to the north stream blast to set drones to the pipelines, to actually investigate and has done a whole lot more than the state investigators in germany and sweden and

elsewhere who have basically buried the entire investigation. i mean, that's really a red flag right there that this investigation is the and their investigations have been closed with no findings and away from the vassal stays there. um, do do also expect uh the cash implication of the filed to you by a well fed documents? now the c i, a admission is come through. clearly the cobra is very important part of the drum psyche. and how shocked where you, when you, when you heard the truth. finally, being the coming from langley that the they were researching by welfare weapons. what does it say about the chinese communist by the allowing americans to research and pyre of weapons in any case on their, on their soil, in the sea ice did not issue a a conclusion. it's, it's more sort of a,

like high likelihood finding under new leadership or uh, which is more hostile to china. but my colleagues, sam, who say, who also intervened in the blinking final press conference broke the story. that usa id and the pentagon through darpa were funding eco health alliance, which was conducting gain of function research, very dangerous gain of function research at the whoo, hot institute over ology. and that, to me seems that that's the area where we deserve more. d classification. more testimony from figures like peter das sac who are involved as well as anthony vouching, and have voucher you having been pardoned preemptively by joe biden, on his way out actually opens them up to more testimony. the public does deserve answers about this virus which continues to up and lives and whose

response was mishandled. so catastrophically by figures who appear to have been involved in this dangerous gain of function research and who appear to have lied about it. that was the whole reason why biden had to part in anthony factory, which was that he misled the public about his role in gain of function research. yeah, you said how responsible a curriculum is like the crime of the century. yeah, and the corrupt joe biden, the pardons and as you imply, that means that the con, take the 5th in any said that the congressional investigation and default, she's role in creating cove and 19 right. that's what i meant. it opens them up to a much more revealing, potentially revealing questioning. now on, on, um israel, i mean over here in the u. a, it's like, this is by the headlights, 200000. were to enter north kaiser and 2 hours cools,

mount against relocation of guys. in saudi arabia, putting it split down, saying absolutely no normalization of any kind. and list a palestinian state. what do you think? commits the 2000 pound booms. uh, now being allowed in a trump saying it has nothing to do and then yeah, who often then, you know, try to make out. it was a friendly gesture from the united states and single tenuously, the 1st 4 and needed to be invited to washington to meet president. trump is nothing yahoo, what's your take? well donald trump, is it a, despite that beings a seminal force in securing this ceasefire deal? i don't believe there would have been a society of commons. i had been re elected this donald trump is planning to preside over the most pro is real or make is real great. again, administration in american history with

a $100000000.00 in campaign donations from is rarely intelligence asset. miriam madison propelling him forward, surrounded by figures who are deeply embedded in the is rally, the the, the architecture of greater israel from his son in law, jared cushion or to david friedman who was in bassett, or before noon. bassett, or is mike huckabee you doesn't even recognize the existence of, of westbank sees as realize the future landing pad for the messiah, at least to phonic us. it bassinger to the un is a catholic lady who has basically been purchased by miriam madison to do israel's bidding. and donald trump didn't get in securing the ceasefire from gaza. has ensured that the regional war that would have up ended. the 1st part of his administration, the 1st year of his administration and his tenure did not happen. we should just say we're having this interview before any, perhaps the imminent strike from israel on the run. well, yeah i'll,

i'll get to that. donald trump, this is donald trump, did not want a potential conflict with the wrong right away. he it, and it was, it was, it was heading there. yeah. and was sort of the testing ground for what israel was planning to do in iran. and that is stop thanks to the cease fire the trumpet as golf, buddy steve woodcock secured, a drop is handed over the west bank to israel effectively. israel's rampaging through the northern west bank trying to stamp out all signs of resistance around janine, where the palestinian authority is lost control it is working to the fund and run east jerusalem. the us is fully on board with that is crediting the un refugee works agency. it is allowing settlers in, in, in bolding, settlers to rampage and carry out price tag terror attacks and palestinian on post indian villages by reversing one of the only things the blinking by the

administration did to keep israel on a leash, which was to sanction for violent a sarah settler terrorist, those sanctions are gone. that sends a message to the rest of the settlers. the westbank is much more significant to israel then does a god as a warehouse for surplus humanity in the demographic trench war that zion is, are waging with the palestinian people west bank. and particularly the northern west bank and the southern west bank. hebron in nablus, those 2 areas are so rich with religious significance for the settler movements, and which really represents the future of zionism in the future of israeli leadership. then israel can't afford to let that go. yeah, i cannot afford to actually find the honest indian state to take root. yeah, we're coming to them. but of course the corrupt palestinian authority then will kind of be neutralized if that actually will happen them. egypt enjoyed measured se

refusing point blank. any of the just despite no doubt threats from trump to go along with the trump agenda. but then so we can say that that was successive raising. machines in your country have help thomas basically because the bible blinking regime is we saw when the prisoners were sent to back to israel to the october 7th versus mazda has never been stronger and admission from the outgoing blinking state department. and if the west bank goes, because trump is given the go ahead to destroy it. basically, these are the greatest recruiting subjects for palestinian resistance in recent years. and you have it an ailing, nothing yahoo maybe on his last legs. and the ultimate agenda. benjamin netanyahu has been to drag the united states into a direct, military confrontation with iran. so that is certainly in the cards. that's something that in yeah, who expects out of trump?

and with donald trump, what you're going to get even more than in his 1st term is a lifting of the mask, a lifting of the mask on the trans atlantic liberals so called liberal democracies . but also on is really a part time. and i expect or consider it highly possible that israel will attempt to annex large sections of the west bank under donald trump, which will lift the mask on apartheid. what will they do with those palestinians? they under international law have to take care of them and, you know, provide them with postal services and sewage. and of course they're going to gaza fi the west bank and declare them surplus humanity as well. so donald trump is forcing history into an acceleration as mode where many of these conflicts are going to erupt much more quickly than we expected. and it is real. also feels like it's on borrowed time, particularly as it's set,

this whole state is centered so much around that in yahoo, who sees him that his lifeline is coming to an end. so it wants to reshape the region rapidly and believes that it may only have 4 more years to do so. maxwell, adults, i gear. thanks a lot of options. that's it for the show will be back on monday with the brand new episode of going underground the tool and keep in touch my role as a media. it is an odd sense of your country to have to watch. i don't think i'll be right to be around the com, to watch new and old episodes of going underground to you monday. the the russian states never as tired as i'm one of the most on screen and the best. i can most all

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