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people who you must call for the position to in the new trump administration. daniel, thanks so much for coming on. i hope a run pool as well in the institution as well. i know he didn't take up the invitation for milan musk i noticed to join the department of government efficiency . i don't know whether you have the details on that. why didn't want to do it? probably didn't refuse it. actually though i think he didn't. he said his and didn't want a formal title. he didn't, he doesn't need another job. he's, you know, he's been there and done that. but i think what he's done is he's, he's been well welcomed into it, and he's sort of serving as a kind of mentor, i suppose. and he, and he offers his thoughts on ways to sort of more spill sonic away. really address the problems of government overreach. and over spending, and so many of the times when he puts out some advice, you on will read tweet it sometimes done junior will retreat it. so it's, uh, it's right now it's working out very well and he's happy to not have some kind of
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a formal relationship enjoyable to watch all this waste of money over so many years being identified and stopped. and i mean, you do a board cost and liberty reports. we now know presumably that the, so many so called the independent pod costs were being basically funneled money through usa. the all around the world will destroy the imaginations of the people in places and all around the world without the american people even realizing their tax dollars we're going to was propaganda. and that's one of the fascinating things we've seen this early week of the trump administration. where he's but, you know, as he put out an executive order to put a stop to all this development 8 and that's effective. but the state department does overseas. and i think the amazing effect of it thus far has been to sign a light on just how much is going on overseas. as your view was probably know the national government for democracy, which is our regime change machine here in the us. stop publishing the grants that
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it gives out in the name of transparency i guess. so we don't know who gets their money, which we need to know. and so stopping all of this when it we just saw. i think 2 days ago, some of the pop propagandists in ukraine that popped up by america are saying, hold on, our money is not coming anymore. can you guys, you know, spot us a couple of a couple of bucks here in there. so it's really highlighting the destruction of democracy done in the name of promoting democracy. and i hope this is only the beginning. what do you think we'll see the end of the national endowment for democracy. we've talked about it on this show for you, isn't how it works. hand in hand with, uh, well, it has worked at it. how would death squads or no? absolutely. and it's, it's profoundly anti american, you know, america had, you know, at least a 4 year panic attack over the false accusations that the russians were meddling in our elections. we've had a, you know, a democratic election or maybe a cancelled for false accusations of the russians meddling in the election. you
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know, so, so we, on this side of it, you know, have a panic attack whenever this happens. but somehow we feel free to meddle in the elections overseas. i found it rather amusing to see chests or shots of a critic besides the one must per year for expressing his opinion about him. he would like to see winning the german elections and the, the, the speaker of the part of an in georgia re posted a non ex, a. well, what about when all the people from your own party were here meeting with the opposition and supporting them and tried to help them when? so there's a real, there's a real level of hypocrisy among the us into european leaders and hopefully signing a light on that will have some positive effect. yeah, schultz. they hated the leader in the gym. the agent by the german people have at the time of this record and he's still transfer presumably. but of course, um, the deep state hasn't gone away. and i suppose it's predictable that we're hearing
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some elements opposing trump's desire to trim down all these nefarious activities. we come to think of it. we still don't even, i mean, you mentioned the russia hooks. we still don't even really understand what the assassination attempts against trump. for about doing. i mean, what's your understanding it liberty reported about this loan? the gunman, who shots the president to before he was elected, are most certainly a right field for conspiracy theories because we just haven't gotten any, any information about it. what, who is the asking? what was the so clicked to get rid of the body? you know, what was, what was going on. it would be nice to know more about this. and hopefully we will . i mean, it seems, it seems like, and i don't want to be too optimistic. i'm gonna be a pollyanna here a. but i just seems like an administration bus bar that's interested in shining the light of some of the lives told to us by the government. and now your view is
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probably know for several weeks, a few weeks ago, americans were ready to go to world war 3 with china because there were a few drones flying over new jersey. right. and now we find out from this new administration that the old administration knew all about it, they knew that it was already approved, but it was just a government operation. what have you. but they let the american people believe that we were under attack by chinese drones, i guess to ramp up the fear. so you know, the best and the best disinfectant really is transparency. and i would just say more, more, more of it. do you think we never get jealous? i jo butcher blinking the rest of them to on. so for all these, uh, well, the waste of money for a start of the american people, while your infrastructure is being destroyed over generations, a loan, the foreign policy of, they've advocated that they have to be called to account under this trump
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administration. i mean, excuse me, trump is going to call into account for the rest of the hooks, presumably as well. there are many ways of being called into account having your reputation ruined forever. is one of those ways i think anyone associated i would be surprised to see someone like blinking back in any, in any way. he'll probably story off to something think somewhere, you know, funded by some you know, the military industrial complex company. what have you, but haven't you reputation ruined hertz? i think, i mean, i have to be a religious person. so i think ultimately will all be judged by our activities on earth. so there may be an ultimate judgement there for the, for the murder and mayhem under the 4 years of binding. but let's not forget bite and spend 50 years endorsing murder. and they, him, he never saw a war that he didn't want to support. he talked to good talk, but in the anti voted for all of the evil wars of the george w bush administration, and so on and so on. so this was just the, you know, the, the, the, the cap of a long career of being
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a fairly blood soaked american neil con politician. yeah. i mean, a lot of people want to go, that's the punishment to say fucking punishment for these people. well, i mean the bizarrely and we had mex blumenthal of the grades out on side this rio and he's previously indicated some optimism about the heck. so that's what you would normally expect him being a christian scientists with this famous tattoo, which is what it means for the palestinians. but when they will, is presence, it depends. it could be a breath of fresh air in the sense that he won't be doing business as usual, the largest military budget and the well. so i mean, it's hard to temper your optimism and expectations. i mean, what i would like depending on to be like, and what i can realistically believe it will, would be like in a positive way or 2 of her different things. you know, we have an outgoing secretary of defense who was completely useless who was absolutely beholden to the military industrial complex. the defense contractors didn't give a damn about the, the, the consequences of,
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of thousands killed. and so you have this incoming, a secretary of defense who come are you in drugs? that just means where you get to exit. i should say lloyd austin is a direct trying to get raphael. and so you'll benefit from any trump, i know. but anyway, that's that's, that's how it works and that's how it works. but heads up is an outside or key is you're right. he has extremist views when it comes to his, his religion on it, in terms of his real nest. rather concerning however, as an outside or i think he, he will also be beholden to president trump. uh, but the other thing that i would just say of send is that something interesting is happening independent gone and maybe we can talk about it a bit later. but, but you, i liked it a piece of the last week. it was in the free press. i know he's a neil con rider. and he is having an absolute panic attack as well on what's happening inside the republican party. the fight between the old right,
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which is researching in the republican party and the new will cause that have been the driver seat since i would say the reagan ministration. 1983. and you know something in that or, but you're seeing some people coming in the 2nd year in the pentagon who are now i'm a non intervention and so they're not where i am. but they're what we would call realistic restrain, or is they believe we should have a restrained form policy. and these are people, i hesitate to say the names because they'll put a target on them. but then caldwell have a top policy position depending on a non restrained or eldridge. colby, who i disagree with on many things, but he's definitely in favor of restraints. he's a, he's the grandson of the, of the, of the same c i a director of back in the sixty's. um you have um with michael domino. yeah. the william club. yes. sorry. so michael domino is gonna be, uh, is gonna be uh, a uh, a senior position dealing with my lease policy. and has been critical of israel's behavior in the region. and doesn't believe we should go to war with iran. and
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there are a few others. andrew buyers is one, and they have allies and people liked on junior. so you are lake is riding about this as what a disaster and what a nightmare this is. and the people like me or looking at it saying there's something hopeful because, you know, awesome, this is what the neil comes always did. they would and i've seen it. i saw it when george w bush came in. i was close to some people who were, who were populating the administration there, and i saw how it work. you get so many in, at a certain level and they just, they bring in all of their people and they don't have very, very effectively. so it's nice to see some people on the other side to a little bit more dedicated to a realistic form policy doing the same thing. so what i think this might be, is you might have a, a state department, this reactive is what they might be tempered by a pentagon that says, hold on, we can't do that. this is not going to happen. we don't have the ability to do this . and that's a healthy thing, that's what i was hoping for. and the trump administration to see this top likes that assistance, how he does his business. he likes that people playing off against each other.
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people have opposing views, duking it out. well, he sits back in and makes his decision. this is the 1st hint. i've seen that this might be the case in his administration, and i'm very happy to see it. i have to say, yeah. and like you said, we have to jump of things. buddy. trump watches, rupert murdoch's fox news in their foreign policy agenda. very clear payments are firing. tucker, carlson, and there is waltz and ruby. a waltz says national security advisor, and i should say john bolton was on this show the other day as long as having national security advisor. i don't think well, just going to be as a, as a individualist as a, as bolton, but at wilts and marco rubio, who i don't know uh, in your atmosphere may launch a full scale war with the southern hemisphere, which has always been his i, i dear very close to the what day, i mean, even before it gets to the pen to get into the exit every day, i know that the confirmation hearings have been going on with the lieutenant
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colonel tools he gathered and so on. but wilts is in a very powerful position, and rubio is the secretary of state. he's the blink configure. yeah. was, is i think the one to be more worried about and will be, i think, what's going to happen to rubio. and it's just just speculation on my part. we get a show about it a few days ago is that he's going to be a very weak secretary of state. he's going to be a figurehead and he's going to be the fall guy to do things. the truck doesn't want to do, and that may entice him to leave before too long. i just think that i think he's, he's, we're line perform policy advice on people that are closer to him that are outside of the sort of traditional the, the us, the executive departments. he's relying more on personal relationships rather than you know, that we've traditionally seen things organized. so i think he rubio, aside from that, as you say, he made he, you know, he's always been, you know, drooling about venezuela in cuba. aside from that, i don't think he's going to be particularly powerful secretary states
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a was on the other hand, is very close to the president. i think him, but those of us who follow the form policy closely when they listen to what he says, he seems very ill informed about the rest of the world. he doesn't seem to understand that russia is not losing. and ukraine, sorry. mike isn't, that's not happening. in that, invading iran will not be a cake walk. we've heard that before. and in fact, it's interesting because was did work for george w bush. that's where he comes from. that says, no you what the annual give so good to you. great by to. i'll stop you. okay, more from the costar, their own pool, liberty report, an executive director of the run full institute after this, by the
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if you think about russia, what does your mind picture the the gates open up before your eyes? the last one does, can you imagine the, the discount starts the journey, the, are you ready to come along? the russian states never as tight as i'm one of the most sense community best. most i'll send, send up the in the 65 with the keys 195 and
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speed you what else calls question about this? even though we will ben in the european union, the kremlin machine, the state on the rushes to day and split the r t spoke neck. even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube, the payment services for the question, did you say stephen twist, which is the the welcome back to going underground. obviously, with the co star there on bull, liberty report, executive director of their own pull is to do daniel mcadams. daniel, you were talking about to ukraine, and misapprehensions was information. literally the double drop maybe being fed
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since he uh, went back to the oval office. actually the combs like and keep catalog seems we that he could possibly be the ukraine on boy, isn't it? i know you're saying that he's playing people off of do you think that some ways of getting the information that he can leverage sanctions on russia has somehow in any deal over the proxy or in rush, 3 grade when when the, as we know rush has done really well out of the sanctions and the only sanctions i understand in the for uranium 2 of us, you pay a power stations. that's the only sanction to a trump administration. i mean, clearly that's being seen. is it the all take well around the world as well? i guess you could say that i had the misfortune of doing foreign policy or in the dc area for a couple of decades. and so i know that it's a circular argument. you know, anyone who speaks outside of the, the sort of generally accepted wisdom is considered, you know, free and that's,
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that's how it was being there. there are for very few people and they can hurt you if he was kellogg's. the product of that, i mean he's a product of that know you and he thinks like everyone else who thinks in, in, in the but you know, he did this goofy piece with bread flights as an old deal con, old line. neal con, actually worked for john bolton for quite some time. so they came up with this crazy article. i'm sure you remember back in early 24, mid 24, whatever it was about. here's how we can do what we're going to have a we're going to freeze the conflict for a 100 days and you know, and we're going to tell good. and if you don't come to the table, we're going to a sanction you. and we're going to tell you, create a funeral, come to the table, we're going to stop giving new weapons. and here's what's going to happen. it's completely bizarre, completely devoid of reality approach. sadly, it was a good book. that's probably why was accepted inform policy circles in washington. but when you're winning a war, you don't accept the ceasefire. that's just a fact. you know, and when you have expended so much blood and treasure,
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as russia has also quite a bit short from the 1000000 casualties, the trump claims we can get to that later. but nevertheless, when you've expended so much as someone comes along and says, hey, you're winning, but can you stop somebody now? and by the way, are you claim will only have a 10 year pause on nato. and in the meantime, the west can continue, can go back to re arming ukraine and getting it ready to fight again. no, i think of putting accepted a deal like that. he would probably, i would say right, but he would be over throne. because if you really want to always pro, someone like truth and get them to accept such a stupid and suicide, all we've been through maintenance. one is, can we've been through this whole thing before? there's actually no way this works. so how could you come to the tape ball with an offer like this and, and, and, and somehow think that it would work. it's, you're getting, you're, you're getting some bad advice or some another theory that maybe we can talk about later. what's really happening. yeah, and we know that even them was who you're kind of saying your boss advisors do it
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except though in this field particularly, but we got mosque, we got to talk a call saying, you know, unofficial type people around them let alone tools. the guy with doris k junior and all these people will clearly say no, this has nothing to do with this. this has to do with the expansion of nato in the 1st place. so, i mean, is he just gonna, is trump, can i get incredibly angry with the people telling him the wrong information, making him look stupid? you've kind of said rubio may go early because trump is going to flip. uh, when he realizes all this information is, is rubbish. and as i understand that he's d, classifying papers, the presumably will show all sorts of corruption. and he's very aware of, uh, ukraine, not so much as a proxy warrant, frustrated because of the ties to the corruption of the binding crime family. yes. and that's a great angle. it's very important. here's how you can stop is doing an audit. and
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i think they're leaning towards this, do an audit of the spending on, on ukraine, of the $200000000000.00. you know, and you have a, you know, the government oversight a chairman in the senate uh by the name of senator rand paul's, who could certainly do some oversight on some of that money out of this stuff. and when you audited americans, we'll see where the money went, and that'll have a huge effect. but you know, there's another school of thought on, on trump, and i, i don't know if this is the fact and there are people that i respect who feels strongly this might be some might be the case that he is going to make a deal that he knows will be rejected by both sides and then he can wash his hands, punch this pilot, say, look, this is not my were i didn't start the war. you guys i, i gave you a deal. you didn't want it, you solve it on your own. i mean, i think that would be the best thing in the business. i hate to go to sort of the for the trip chest route. but if this is the game he's playing, then it's, it's going to be a win win for, for everyone. you know, but if he is going down the road of you lost a 1000000, your economies in tatters,
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i'm going to a sanction a couple more things. and this is going to be a when using for a rude awakening. we have done the same thing. the sanctions on russia, year after year, thousands of them and they have not destroyed the russian economy, they destroyed the european economy. so if he goes down that path, he's in for a big l. yeah, i mean that that's a huge gavia against any optimism. clearly about trump, but um, i mean you, it's a drum trump, but you are the rental institute. know how important wrong go wrong pull. sorry, grapple is this editor who actually differs over israel, which i want to get on to his son if is over that. but um the 1st amendment, the importance of that in your constitution. once it made you feel to see attempt to trying to reclaim that 1st amendment in these early days of a trump administration, i mean that, that presumably you regard is one of the most important things without the 1st amendment. there is nothing that's the literally and i mean to tackle the be the
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unholy alliance between the government and corporations. i mean there's a word for it. it starts with an f, a and it's, it's called fascism. you know, when the government gets together with corporations and in seeks to deny americans their, their, their fundamental rights. and that's what happened for the last 4 years. and we saw thanks the originals like met how you mean others. what had happened and we saw the lead loan off of it. and so i think with this early executive orders for bidding federal government officials from colluding with private companies, clinical private companies to deny americans their rights is a very positive thing. and i hope it goes forward, it shouldn't be necessary, but, but i think it might be um, some of some attempts to write some of the wrongs that had been done and also to raise awareness. you know, but i think you also have the danger of that mean the right has its own sort of work side as well. and there are things that they don't like having discussed either. and so, as, as people who are libertarians or anarchist, or whatever,
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you would say, small government people, sometimes you have to accept speech that you don't like. and you shouldn't try to get government to silence it. so i think there's a danger in the us with the read to find a new the read to find interest semitism that the congress has adopted last year in the anti semitism awareness that that includes criticism of the secular state of israel as a potential definition of anti semitism, there's also slippery slope there on the right toward the scorching speech and i think the, the solution to speech that you may consider hate speech is more speech. so i hope there are, there are still some dangers, but there's some good signs early. i think, yeah, they wanted to put students on visas or express themselves about the kinds of genocide it seems. the 2 of you went through matt to amy for end of the show. ok. who, who has worked with you on? let's go on the, to the files. i suppose that's what one really ones over all these issues like ukraine and your intimate there about the work right?
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that miriam, adults and money that you think will be the deciding factor in preventing free speech when it comes to pablo side as well. i hope not. i mean she's, she's just one person and she's given a lot of money, but i think there are some in there's a method to jump to madness in a way. i mean he did get the ceasefire and maybe he promised netanyahu that hey, i just need to look good when that when, when the cameras are off, you can go back to your, your favorite exercise slaughtering civilians. and that may be the case, but nevertheless, the world, the seeing the image is a policy and is coming back to their homes. it's going to be difficult for them to start the deaf machine up again and start bombing, the doctor said they won't try it. they may well do it, but it's going to be more difficult. so this deal is, is overall a very much of a positive thing. and i think we know we know that trump doesn't necessarily live test and yahoo very much. no trouble said some done things about cleaning out the area, which sounds very, very ominous to me. but nevertheless,
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i think there's an instinct in him that, that, that wants things to be cleaned up in a, in a better way that no, no mess as he wants to disengage trust when the middle east. and i hope, i hope that's the case. yeah, i mean, the bombing of lebanon in the aftermath of the seas finally, continuing and destruction of the west bank, of course, is going to hand in hand with that you gave the quotes to the private contract is, i suppose, illuminating the fact that the constitution applies not to private entities in your country, but of course facebook, google, then no up there. actually government contract is and there huge amount of money and then basically solve the, it's a government firm is one of my, the been the say you have you noticed any lab diminution of a censorship for liberty report? i know your own rumble, like we are, of the supposedly trump signed to the executive order, guaranteeing the freedom of speech. i said, i don't know why he has to do that. if you have a constitution anyway,
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but have you noticed any difference? because presumably, the wrongful liberty report hasn't done well from google, facebook, twitter, before 11 months. yeah, i mean we, i think we're banned from facebook for a while and a few things like that. i mean, one of the reasons we went to rumble while they called us up and said, hey we, we see you having some trouble with youtube. we bought a free speech platform. when did you come up to, to us and we didn't, we were very happy. we've never had a single problem with rumble, and we were worried about youtube. you put a lot of that guy, you know, as well. you put so much effort into a show and, and they get the rug it's pulled out from under you. so i think, you know, i, i think things are certainly better because it's a, it's been recognize now that the tide is turned in our favor. the censorship is not, is not good, but these companies, you're right. i mean, they are, they are not private companies. if they're colluding behind the scenes with governments, you know, to silence american citizens. and there's a misconception that um, the 1st amendment is something of great. the government grants you the right to
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free speech in the 1st of them, that's not the case. the 1st and then are recognized as the natural state of man given to us by our creator, that we have the right to do these things. and it's not a government that grants it. and so there's a lot of reckoning americans, so we're confused. well, foreigners shouldn't come over here and have the right to free speech, but you're missing the whole point of it. the whole point is recognizing the state of nature. we should have these, we should have these rights. we should be, we should be an example to the rest of the world. then you'll look adams, thank you. thank you. that's it for the show. will be back with a brand new episode on site they have until then given. that's why i will let social media results as a new country and what channel going on. they're going to be on rumbled or come towards noon old episodes of going on the grounds. he's having the, [000:00:00;00]
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the, i look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given it by human beings, except we're such short ends at conflict with the 1st law. show your mind, anticipation, we should be very careful about our personal intelligence. the point obviously, is to place a trust rather than to the various jobs. i mean, with the artificial intelligence we have summoning the theme in the robot most protect this phone, existence was alexis the the had
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a photo of we'll just need to just include the piece was broken into components. just was wondering that it doesn't include all the state graduates, even the most us to call you, we spoke with you in for patients in the doctor's name, what's the rubbish to rubbish cubes that are in the videos or, you know, and it goes out any of the stop police have taken poison question, your coffee, squeeze your community here is to me and that that was the we should that they will glad sharpest use, which is to share a wish name. you're still doing on that old. and so it's quite in with but honestly and attempted to understand it, we sort of been on the new, much to sort of, you know,
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near to ask you sort of internet service your thoughts the, [000:00:00;00] the welcome to cross stock bull horns were all things are considered on peter level, this trump actually have a plan to end the ukraine conflict. it doesn't appear so also the new administration is actively backing a plan to forcibly displace palestinians. in other words, ethnic cleansing. will trump soon be known as genocide? done to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, jordan, samuel, we in budapest, he's a pod cast or at the goggle, which can be found on youtube and locals. and here in moscow we have marks level that he has an international relations and security analyst,

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