[000:00:00;00] the, the i wanted to come here since i was 121 my grandfather told me his mom came from russia. if i was part russian, i didn't plan on staying this long. i was gonna look around. i was gonna see if it was for me, i like it. maybe i'll look at some properties. come back in a few more years after i'm retired and then just finish out life in russia. but then i came and then i was like, i don't remember when i go home, that's how i felt about rush. i love it. i love it so much here that i don't even want to leave. i just want to travel around rush, i have no desire to go to any other country. the ever been here.

the i've only lived here a few months, but i wanted to tell you what fascinates me about russia and share the stories of other foreigners who lived here. like jay who worked as a chef and now it raises god's, it makes cheese and the country side like chad who has been granted political asylum because he's being persecuted by the f b. i like an american family. that recently moved to russia with 6 children. the year we are happy to be here. this is my friend joe. a few months ago he immigrated to russia with his large family. now i'm on the way to visit him. i want to find out why he decided to move here and how he likes it in russia

to how you doing very good. the joe is an id program manager. he worked in many large companies including microsoft, but he gave up everything and moved to russia with his wife and 6 children. and now they're about to have a 7. so apparently they had a very good reason to relocate. did he talk you interested? no, i think to be honest, we 1st rich the same conclusion. some states have had issues where they've come in and they've removed the child from here because they're claiming the child's being abused by not being able to think it was uh, is 6 states in less than 6 months past these laws that even a 5 year old kid can be taken away from their parents and take them to the hospital and shop a lot. yeah. that's just the reality we've uh and people ask us okay, well, i mean like, is it ramped and is it happening to like everybody have you been threatened with

that? no, i'm not an idiot. i don't wait around for this stuff to continue to progress because that's what's been going on for the last several decades. a lot of people with traditional values wouldn't take the agenda, right? they wouldn't. okay. i know that they flash a lot of traditional teachers anyway, the flushing traditional switches out of the system that's filling it up with cuckoos. and these people likes child stressed out that being bullied, so they send them home with, well, maybe your upset cuz you're actually the rooms. and just like maybe you're actually just helping people going on here. and they actually condition is chosen to do that . and so it's, it's going on and the amount of schools that have had secret classes one recently where they were having classes after school every day for a year. and they were actually, they weren't doing art at all. oh, actually transgender crosses. and this is for the art classes with our holy these

parents to the children were attending on cost. literally this complete inversion. we're perfectly fine shaming you if you're a straight white male is you have a lot of kids, people to walk up to my wife, make rude comments are available, say the materials and there's things. if you take care, you know, nobody could criticize or not 3 children who will behavior is what she says are you out of your mind and she starts playing into me. everybody's terrified. there is no freedom of speech in america anymore. yes. there's nothing really mean about that. would you be the organization or anything like that? oh, you'll be putting docs for life. people had to down. no joke. i took a picture of christmas day because we had a boy's hand. this is like the most traditional in the angle where all the boys had and then there i be decked with bays and rosemary and somebody tag this animal rights activist group. put out my name where i worked,

who the phone numbers to like, oh, my complaint was pressed for eating a pigs had by the here in russia. you can say what you think were out loud and the most relieving thing in the world. you actually are like me, this is actually really enjoyable. you can make jokes about this sort of stuff. nobody would, you know, cancel you or try to dock too or anything like that. talk about it. it was fine whenever you're living on the what about health carey? are you all worried about getting like the kids to a doctor or because oh okay, well i told them i'm and this goes from the end of last year and i had to go get a surgery. i was just like, oh, great, awesome. so like this is over for us because i'm going to drop, you know, tens of thousands of dollars on this, which i would have definitely in the states. i have like one of the best orthopedic surgeons. like 5 star level hospital room,

1300 bucks. yeah. my 1st pregnancy ended a thing on you to stay and i think the bill was a $100000.00. we. i big discount on it because it was self pay. it was like $80000.00 and then we had the medical sharing, but still it was like intense wiley, lucel's equity russian see, are you a little russian more tables? one of his best with the is high chance would look at me in the morning. i'd make money had said he, what were your thoughts before coming to russia with a special military operation and how did you feel? were you worried that there was going to be like more on the outskirts of moscow? are you? i never yeah. no, i thought there was going to be a war and i didn't want to be sitting, you know, at home in the middle of kansas down the street from fort riley when the, let me just say that i feel a lot safer here, right? than i do in america, if actual world war 3 breakdown much,

much better to be here. we don't have any kind of defense that could suit anything that i mean, right? something goes on over in the, in the states. it's over me. you know, i remember right before we left, we, uh, we heard reports, the russian nuclear subject pops his head up right off the coast of dc. hey, we're right here, just so you know, don't forget that we're right here. so there's nothing that you're going to defend against of this goes sideways for the whole world, the euro, russian. so you love this house. what are the learning funny

so we're on the way to meet some, but he's pretty famous here in russia. he's a farmer, an ex pat has been here since the 19 ninety's, so he should give us an interesting perspective on how things have changed here. one of the things he's most known for is cheats. so today i'm hoping that we can see some change production and get to meet some animals on his farm. the so baka, it's good to meet another american to various idea of who is coming. yeah, oh no. another yags a story. we're going to go bill to go. all right, awesome. it's hard to believe now, but j was a famous shift to even to, to the rolling stones. he used to run several restaurants and moscow. he was also a dare devil biker in radio host, but he gave it all up sort of submarine,

which he had more in france and bought land in the countryside. then he built a house and moved here. go for that. let's get in a the 2 calves one boil in 3 years will have lead to milk. i agreed and dare go 3 years later in the rock starts and what are you going to do? what you related to milk? that's how j starting making cheese, and would you believe it? he became one of the most famous keys makers in russia. although when he 1st came here, he couldn't imagine anything of the sort. i got here many free things, shooting at the white nose and it was there was little money for us was in the hospital's wall in a board and everything was really bad. you mean, i couldn't imagine that. another country surviving. i think americans would die hungry. i didn't receive a right away, i came for 10 days and 20 days and 40 days, and then 61 a senior road and more like home. i would start to go to other countries and i just

want to get back on to russia. so it's home, i say to people, hey, if you could live in a rush, you can live anywhere in the world. it's not easy here. i mean, of course it's hard at some of the language, some of the alphabet of the culture. several shake hands under a doorway. the boxes solves on the table. man is thousands of. i don't believe in the life of the divine judge wouldn't because it's like a habit. i asked jay if he's afraid to stay in russia after all, our countries have a very troubled relationship. the us embassy regularly purchase people to leave. but that's what happened before. when birth or the 16th to was probably reasonable garcey. there was not case a to communist room, full draining all their games on the tv. they were the ones writing the programs right. better that there was a lot of people say to anybody you

a long there was economy. anybody out a different idea was economy, news like this? river stuff. the russians are killed tv, maybe trump, for president or hillary clinton. they linked or e mails installed the russian form. and how many elections have we got in june, right. how many sessions ations of elected officials have we actually done ring raid war against the payment because they weren't lynch the deals, things of the russians available, right. when really ration really like the biggest brands. i don't understand that at all. jay's business is going well and things have been going particularly well since a europe imposed sanctions banning in ports of cheese into rush and j as in suffering from the new sanctions either or so is the attractive as possible? i seen was seem to fax,

you wait tabasco sauce made in the us. the sanctions are failed. ok. what's the address? yeah, well i think the same dollars. same ice cream. you know, the oil you made in the usa, even j will confirm sanctions and russia have failed. he ordered this on as on, which is why i'm always ordering things. a j had to take his car to the garage today for an oil change, and i've decided to go with them. i want to see what car services like in the russian hinterland.

the . the russian states. never as one of the most sense community best english. i'll send, send up the send, the 6595 and speed. what else calls question about this? even though we will fan in the european union, the kremlin media mission, the state on the russia to day and supports the r t. suppose next. even our video agency,

roughly all the band on youtube tv services for what question did you say even closer to the oh, i sort of get salt, salt. salt in the road. salt milk. yeah. so the milk smell guys really? me right of here. yeah. the you guys have to push, push. no, that should list. um, you gotta, you gotta good. all right, let's see if we can push the james car. let's rock it for sure to

stop. all right, looks like we're good to look at that. look at this beautiful villas to wow, look the key up, the hill is amazing. place. a serious, a beautiful village by the way. a lot of people in america think these villages are just like falling apart. so a lot of your neighbors come and they buy choose from you. yeah, go buy cheese or master class. they learn how to make g o, they come and learn how to make g for james, dropping his car off for an oil change. this is a russian brides look at that and really look too much different than an american garage that you find out in the middle of the country. so he'll be home 3 years would really mean under your order. is

there any are going to room for you? that's it. what do you pay for oil change day and like $10.00? $10.00. $10.00. oh, maybe $5.00. $5.00. is it a good? let's go. the time is coming to try jay's cheese. he has a small shop and many kinds of different cheese j says there are 50 varieties in total, so it's just part of the natural process every day. turn it over the rubber down, talk to good morning to next week. this is romano like was really good. is good year. this is going to tell you and guard so dried tomatoes, bell peppers speaking metal,

metal therapy with russian shockley. yes. i'm a sick man, but you know, don't hold it against the. i'm heading to the northern capital of st. petersburg and american lives there whom the f. b. i has been hunting for 18 years. he's on interpose a red list. they tried to extradite him to the united states from different countries for types, you know, is in russia. i've been following his story for a while. and i can finally, personally ask why the f b i as after him. i'm in st. petersburg, russia right now. my 1st time and it's probably the coldest day since i've arrived in russia. i am feeling it to my bones right now. the pills are due to a tough how you doing the years old or was it frozen as well? you can feel anything. oh no you came. i think you brought this weather with you man. yeah,

i'm not good. it is so i don't know taken perfect. so tell me a little bit about yourself, like, uh, what, what made you decide to come to russia? i received asylum, and so far as i know, the next man after snowden to get it. and that's american, us embassies and 4 countries that come after me is wild. and so we have a couple of theories, the one that most people come to me 1st is like, oh, there's just a bunch of bureaucratic mistakes, but there's no way they raised our house in 2002 in cyprus, they have issued fall on my wife uh, they've interrogated me, they visited me and bought here in prison. personally the i came, they tried to make deals. and also whenever can microsoft, i cover the middle east and africa and i had several intelligence agency trying to recruit me to work for them. and when i kept saying no, they wanted to make an offer. i couldn't refuse. and they have a history that to and is approvable, know because when they try and recruiters not like they leave behind a business card and say, hey, you know, i'm from the intelligence agency,

but very clearly there are 3 recruitment attempts. why is it that the f b i is looking for you on the website? they say that i legally retain my son, which is not because i had custody of my son anywhere is here to lived in europe the and you can prove this. yeah, i agree all of it. and then they said they told the newspaper, the indictment, they said that i physically kidnapped him with the problem was, i was in the united states and neither was he the just too much prior the same judge who set this whole thing up, put him on a plane using police to return to me because he was visiting his mother for the summer in the us and she didn't want to return them. and the judge said, nope, he said the police take away, put them on a plane and then he the same judge, basically the foundation for get up and that whole thing's been dismissed, but the feds weren't dismissed there in the and he's, he's your strongest witness in this case and he is, he's 27 now. yeah. he's done news interviews on american television saying that he

was never kidnapped and as all the fires because when the guy does the sort of things, the only thing is ever fixed is massive publicity. i work the social media, sometimes it's the dancer you're going after doing sort of thing and yeah, i'm a 49 year old bad man, but that's also tomato works. right? yeah, i have 150 to these by now and that's how it works. i had to order 2 police officers to physically movies my mother and put me on a plane back to my dad hollis. and i'm not going to say this is actual insanity. chad son now lives in the caribbean and he's still on the missing children's list. and chat is still on the wanted list. were you ever contracted by the government? no, never. do you think maybe and this is just me being curious. do you think that perhaps uh, something that you may have worked on for one of these companies might be a reason for any of this. i, i never worked on anything that was secretive or anything sort of that i have built software that's been in the space station. it is used by the government. right. but

it, it's communication software. when i moved to russia in early 2001, i married into a family and lived with a family who worked in a military aviation factory. and they didn't like suite the forest or the thing. and it's not like they could possibly get access to military technology. they were engineers, they had a good range. and so these were close family members, and we lived in the same household for many years. and they had basically, i guess what america be called top secretary ok. and it became pretty evident that somebody in the american halogens agency had some kind of white dream that thought i could somehow blackmail my family and give me information. okay. it was never going to happen. we never discuss this stuff. my family would never give me information about that. i would never ask. russian may have and i don't have to have this, but maybe they offer me the asylum because i believe russian was far about more case my case than i do. right. and maybe it was a thank you for you know, hey,

you had the chance to turn on us and you didn't, i don't know. do you feel safe, ever returning to the united states of america? no. and you feel safe here? oh, absolutely. it is extremely censure. right, americans ask me all the time if that covers it towards the safe and americans to be more safe in the cities here than they are at home. i say this a lot of people like back home i had a console weapons permit. i had to carry, hang on with me everywhere i went. and since i've been here, people ask you, what about your gun rights now? what's the need for it? you don't need a gun. there is an american to say that that's really amazing. the driver expected . i have a friend from new york and he lives here and he says he got marked on average 3 times a year in new york. it's just, it's really crazy and i filled the metro is here and people like where the people to. yeah. where's the feet? yes, a drug kind of do the videos that all the time and they always ask the same thing. like me chat is passed a lot of strange questions on tick tock. recently he was asked if it's true that

russia had run out of tomato. the american media often writes nonsense stories about russian and people believe them. so we decided to drive to the market and see for our center supposed month. oh wow, look at this place. funny on the for the fish a bill next to the future and 5. yes. oh yeah. so yes, the only history still? yes. yes. yeah. yes. i have come to spy on your plan to to get everybody added. uh they have to meet us here or not. uh, they said russian. okay, just a minute and let's take a look. i think there's okay, so tell me does that look like the tomato? what in the tomato i like. yeah. tomatoes, tomatoes, tomatoes, all the way down to me is tomatoes, tomatoes, and then all the way down to man estimate, estimate is. yeah. so it's all 1st of all,

look at these because i've seen this based on uh on already was look joe, look right over here or look at the gigs. is that amazing? got $32.00 boys, $1.00 and $1.00 of the belly. okay, we're good. i keep counting kids. i'm so paranoid because of america and america if somebody would have like tucked them into their jacket. last one. yeah. very high swings papa has to be careful not to push it too high. okay. your wife was telling me when she's on the forms for like mothers and america. yeah. that they talk about not letting their children i guess not giving their children a gender. oh yeah. that's so weird. yeah. i mean, it's not like, yeah it's, it's amazing 1000000000 in america, not all, but it seems like

a small portion i'd say are just framed i've never been felt safe for my entire life than living here. moscow is, feels very safe by people help us around the city all the time and must come parts there everywhere. i mean, i've never had so much stuff for my kids to do ever in america the, the kids when they're like by them. so you like panic, like where's their parents? somebody's going to take the kids from the area the get the city. they had a park for kids called world, the fun thousands of people over a decade, thousands of kids. it was being run by peter risk. and they were just taking kids and it was never getting reported on like these kids are just disappearing for these theme parks. that's why i'm talking to the use aids here. just save. yeah. in some ways i feel like i've already fulfilled my dream. i've gotten them out right now. it is just about stabilize. right. so that,

that to me is the most important people like want to talk about, you know, oh, it's a, it's a bad thing to do something if you're running away, i get those comments on social media all the time. why did you run? mm. i didn't run i left, you know that this horrible thing that happened with the crocus. right. and everybody is like calling me from the states. hey, are you okay huh. and i'm like, what do you mean? should i be calling you every, every week? right? every day i cool. you live in chicago, should i call you on saturdays in the morning? are you okay? one thing has happened, which is truly horrible. but since what the ninety's to to 2000. yeah. and, and, and you're calling me to see if i'm ok. no, i'm concerned about you. right the what are your future plans? i am looking for a job now that i'm asylum i can work your legal way. so that's great. i'd like to find a public speaking job or maybe something and media on tv, something in saint petersburg. no, because i don't want to move to moscow. mazda is great. but st. petersburg,

my john, what do you like most about the same theaters are going like this. city, you know, i've, i've traveled there almost 70 countries, i've lived and 12 and it's really my statements and an entire world. i mean, the people here as you see, if you even slightly brush into somebody there to stop sex, they hold the doors feels like you're living in a small town. there's something magical about the city to me, the i'm happy here any time i go anywhere, i just want to come back here to my little religion and country to deal with my goats and my dogs and dad's and why change. i love reading change, so it's all i can describe is where you feel like it don't have to be your land. it can be way or know where you are in wired way or

an example to other people. our plans. now i'm assuming you're going to go for citizenship. absolutely, and you're not looking back. the sound of you, i get it. does. i totally get it. i've got about 6 or 7 people that want to come visit this year, right. but i've warned, every single one of them i said, you know, the worst part about visiting russia is when you get here, you don't want to lease 100 percent. so it's, you want to be a russian citizen. he asked me to buy you want to be

a russian would absolutely most of it. ready ready the if you think about russia, what does your mind pick to the bottom landscapes? open up the phone lines. the, the last one does, can you imagine the, the discard starts the journey? the are you ready to come along the the,

the, [000:00:00;00] the unit. when i went to the wrong one, i just don't have to safe house because the and engagement equals the trail when so