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is and prosperity daniel mcadams. he goes their own pool, liberty reported x u. s. presidential candidate run pool, who the little must golf and a position to in the new trump administration. daniel, thanks so much for coming on. i hope a run pool as well and the and seduce as well. i know he didn't take up the invitation for milan musk i noticed to join the department of government efficiency . i don't know whether you have the details on that. why didn't want to do it? probably didn't refuse it. actually bear with me. he didn't. he said as he didn't want a formal title. he didn't, he doesn't need another job. he's, you know, he's been there and done that. but i think what he's done is he's, he's been, well, i'll come get into it. and he sort of serving as a kind of mentor, i suppose. and he, and he offers his thoughts on ways to sort of more spill sonic away. really address the problems of government overreaching over spending. and so many of the times when he puts out some advice to you and will retweet it sometimes done junior will
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retreat it. so it's, uh, it's right now it's working out very well and he's happy to not have some kind of a formal relationship enjoyable to watch all this waste of money over so many years being identified and stopped. and i mean, you do a board costs the liberty reports. we now know presumably that the, so many so called the independent postcards were being basically funneled money through usa, the all around the world. it would destroy the imaginations of the people in places and all around the world without the american people even realizing that tax dollars were going towards propaganda. and that's one of the fast that he thinks we've seen this early week of the top administration where he is. but you know, as he put out an executive order to put a stop to all this development 8 and that's effective. but the state department does overseas, and i think the amazing effect of it thus far has been to sign a light on just how much is going on for proceeds as you probably know,
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the national government for democracy, which is our regime change machine here in the us stop publishing the grants that it gives out in the name of transparency i guess. so we don't know who gets their money, which we need to know. and so stopping all of this when it we just saw. i think, 2 days ago, some of the pop propagandists in ukraine that popped up by america are saying, hold on, our money is not coming anymore. can you guys, you know, spot as a couple of a couple of bucks here in there. so it's really highlighting the destruction of democracy done in the name of promoting democracy. and i hope this is only the beginning. would you think? we'll see the end of the national endowment for democracy. we've talked about it on this show for you, isn't how it works. hand in hand with, uh, well, it has worked and it had with death squads. so absolutely. and it's, it's profoundly anti american, you know, america had, you know, at least a 4 year panic attack over the false accusations that the russians were meddling in
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our elections. we've had the, you know, a democratic election, romania cancelled for false accusations of the russians meddling in the election. you know, so, so we, on this side of it, you know, have a panic attack whenever this happens. but somehow we feel free to meddle in the elections overseas. i found it rather amusing to see the chests or shots of a credit. besides the one must per here for expressing his opinion about him. he would like to see winning the german elections and the, the, the speaker of the parliament in georgia re posted a non ex a. well, what about when all the people from your own party were here meeting with the opposition and supporting them and tried to help them win? so there's a real, there's a real level of hypocrisy among the us and the european leaders and hopefully shining a light on that will have some positive effect. yeah, schultz. the hated the leader in the gym. the 80 by the german people have at the time of this record and he's still transfer presumably. but of course, um,
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the deep state hasn't gone away and i was predictable that we're hearing some elements opposing trump's desire to trim down all these nefarious activities. we come to think of it. we still don't even, i mean, you mentioned the russia hooks. we still don't even really understand what the assassination attempts against trump. for about doing. i mean, what's your understanding of liberty reported about this loan? the gunman, who shots the president to before he was elected the most certainly a right field for conspiracy theory is because we just haven't gotten any, any information about it. what, who is the asking, what, why was it so quick to get rid of the body? you know, what was, what was going on. it would be nice to know more about this. and hopefully we will . i mean, it seems, this seems like, and i don't want to be too optimistic. i'm gonna be a pollyanna here a. but i just seems like an administration bus bar that's interested in shining the
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light of some of the lives told to us by the government. and now your view is probably know for several weeks, a few weeks ago, americans were ready to go to world war 3 with china because there were a few drones flying over new jersey. right. and now we find out from this new administration that the old administration knew all about it, they knew that it was already approved, but it was just a government operation. what have you. but they let the american people believe that we were under attack by chinese drones, i guess to ramp up the fear. so you know, the best in the best disinfectant really is transparency. and i would just say more, more, more of that. do you think we never get jealous? i jo butcher blinking the rest of them to on. so for all these, uh, well, the waste of money for a start of the american people, while your infrastructure is being destroyed over generations, a loan,
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the foreign policy of, they've advocated that they have to be called to account under this trump administration. i mean, excuse me, trump is going to call into account for the russia hooks, presumably as well. there are many ways of being called into account having your reputation ruined forever. is one of those ways i think anyone associated i would be surprised to see someone like blinking back in any, in any way. he'll probably story off to something think somewhere, you know, funded by some, you know, uh uh, military industrial complex company. what have you. but haven't you reputation ruined hertz? i think, i mean, i have to be a religious person. so i think ultimately will all be judged by our activities on earth. so there may be an ultimate judgement there for the, for the murder and mayhem under the 4 years of binding. but let's not forget 5 and spend 50 years endorsing murder. and they, him, he never saw of war that he didn't want to support. he talked a good talk, but in the anti voted for all of the evil wars of the george w bush administration,
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and so on and so on. so this is just a, you know, that takes the cap of a long career of being a fairly blood soaked american neil con politician. yeah. i mean, a lot of people want to go, that's the punishment to say fucking punishment for these people. what i mean, the bizarrely and we had mex blumenthal of the grades on 5 days ago, and he's previously indicated some optimism about the heck. so that's what you would normally expect him being a christian scientists with this famous tattoo, which is what it means for the palestinians. but willie, willie is presence at the pen to be a breath of fresh air in the sense that he won't be doing business as usual, the largest military budget and the well. so i mean, it's hard to temper your optimism and expectations. i mean, what i would like dependent going to be like, and what i can realistically believe it will, would be like in a positive way or 2 of her different things. you know, we have an outgoing secretary of defense who was completely useless who was
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absolutely beholden to the military industrial complex. the defense contractors didn't give a damn about the, the, the consequences of, of thousands killed. and so you have this incoming, a secretary of defense who covers you in drugs. that just means when you get to exit, i should say lloyd austin is a direct trying to get raphael. and so you'll benefit from any trump, i know. but anyway, yeah that's, that's, that's how it works and that's how it works. but heads up is an outside or key is you're right. he has extremist views when it comes to his, his religion on it, in terms of his real and us rather concerning however, as an outside or i think he, he will also be beholden to president trump. uh, but the other thing that i would just say of send is that something interesting is happening independent gone and we, maybe we can talk about it a bit later. but, but you, i lake did a piece of the last week. it was in the free press. i know he's
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a neil con rider and he is having an absolute panic attack as well on what's happening inside the republican party. the fight between the old right, which is researching in the republican party and the new will cause that have been the driver seat since i would say the reagan ministration. 1983. and you know something in that or, but you're seeing some people coming in the 2nd year in the pentagon who are now i'm a non intervention and so they're not where i am. but they're what we call realistic restrain, or is they believe we should have a restrained form policy. and these are people i, i hesitate to say the names because they'll put a target on them. but then caldwell have a top policy position depending on a non restrained or eldridge. colby, who i disagree with on many things, but he's definitely in favor of restraints. he's a, he's the grandson of the, of the, of that same c i a director of back in the sixty's. um you have um with michael domino. yeah. the uh, william club. yes. sorry. so michael domino is gonna be, uh, is gonna be uh, a uh, a senior position dealing with
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a lease policy. and has been critical of israel's behavior in the region. and doesn't believe we should go to war with iran. and there are a few others. andrew buyers is one, and they have allies and people like don junior. so eli lake is writing about this as what a disaster and what a nightmare this is. and people like me or looking at it saying there's something hopeful because, you know, awesome, this is what the neil comes always did. they would and i've seen it. i saw it when george w bush came in. i was close to some people who were, who were populating the administration there, and i saw how it work. you get so many in, at a certain level and they just, they bring in all of their people and they don't have very, very effectively. so it's nice to see some people on the other side to a little bit more dedicated to a realistic form policy doing the same thing. so i, what i think this might be, is you might have a, a state department, this reactive is what they might be tempered by a pentagon. this is hold on, we can't do that. this is not going to happen. we don't have the ability to do this and that's a healthy thing. that's what i was hoping for. and the trump administration to see
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this top likes this. this is how he does his business. he loves that people playing off against each other. people with opposing views, duking it out, well, he sits back in and makes his decision. this is the 1st hint. i've seen that this might be the case in his administration, and i'm very happy to see it. i have to say, yeah. and like you said, we have to jump of things. buddy trump watches, rupert murdoch's fox news in their foreign policy agenda. very clear payments are firing tucker, carlson. and there is waltz and ruby a waltz, his national security adviser. and i should say, john bolton was on this show the other day as long as having national security advisor. i don't think, well, just going to be as a, as a interventionist as a, as bolton, but the world's and marco rubio, who i don't know uh, in your atmosphere may launch a full scale war with the southern hemisphere, which has always been his i, i dear they're closer to what they, i mean,
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even before it gets to the pen to get in pete exit every day. i know that the confirmation hearings have been going on with the lieutenant colonel josie gabbert and so on. but wilts is in a very powerful position, and rubio is the secretary of state. he's the blink configure as, yeah, was, is i think the one to be more worried about and will be, i think, what's gonna happen to rubio. and it's just the test speculation on my part. we get a show about it a few days ago is that he's going to be a very weak secretary of state. he's going to be a figurehead and he's going to be the fall guy to do things. the truck doesn't want to do, and that may entice into lead before too long. i just think that i think he's, he's relying perform policy advice on people that are closer to him that are outside of this sort of traditional that the us, the executive departments. he's relying more on personal relationships rather than you know, that we've traditionally seen things organized. so i think the rubio, aside from that, as you say, he made, he, you know, he's always been, you know, drooling about venezuela in cuba. aside from that,
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i don't think he's going to be particularly powerful. a secretary states, a waltz on the other hand, is very close to the president. i think on those of us who follow the form policy closely when they listen to what he says, he seems very ill informed about the rest of the world. he doesn't seem to understand that russia is not losing. and ukraine, sorry. mike isn't that's not happening in that invading. iran will not be a cake walk. we've heard that before. and in fact, it's interesting because most did work for george w bush. that's where he comes from. that says no. you what the annual. yes. so good to you, great and by to i'll stop you. okay. more from the costar, their own pool, liberty report, an executive director of their own full institute after this by the who when i looked,
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showed the wrong just don't safe house and engagement. it was the trail. when so many find themselves will depart. we choose to look for common ground, the in 1941, the radical right wing was stone show organization seized power and from the independent state of croatia. the pull on 3 name, low temp, what's kind of a problem with a still a system of these 3. i mean one of the main targets was children. historical sources say because gosh, killed over 72000 children business it my god. they have done a roll of nose up that of course i say, you know, they may have done one up front that they have just done with general just go
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a b c on that. and even the germans themselves were horrified by the atrocities committed by the stash reflection of that so on the election bill of government staying at a theme is that we saw on structure. possibly it could be too tight and not to allow me this little research on the hook it back to going underground. i'm still able to co star the run bull liberty report, executive director of the run pull is to do daniel mcadams. daniel, you were talking about the ukraine, and misapprehensions was information literally that the donald trump maybe being fed since he uh, went back to the oval office. actually the cold lake and keep catalog seems with
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that he could possibly be the ukraine on boy, isn't it? i know you're saying that he's playing people off of do you think that's where is he getting the information that he can leverage sanctions on rusher has somehow in any deal over the proxy or in rush, 3 grade when when the, as we know rush has done really well out of the sanctions and the only sanctions i understand in the for uranium to view as nuclear power stations, that's the only sanction lifted to uh, a trump administration. i mean, clearly that's been seen as a the all take all around the world as well. i guess you could say that i had the misfortune of doing form policy or in the dc area for a couple of decades. and so i know that it's a circular argument. you know, anyone who speaks outside of the, the sort of generally accepted wisdom is considered, you know, freaks. and that's, that's how it was being that there are for very few people and they can hurt you. and she was, will kill logs. the product of that, i mean, these are products that, that know you and these things like everyone else who thinks in, in,
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in the but you know, you do this goofy piece with bread flights. there's an old, you know, con old line. you can actually work for john bolton for quite some time. so they came up with this crazy article. i'm sure you remember back in early 24, mid 24, whatever it was about. here's how we can do it. we're going to have a, we're going to freeze the conflict for a 100 days and you know, and we're going to tell good. and if you don't come to the table, we're going to a sanction you. and we're going to tell you, create a funeral, come to the table, we're going to stop giving your weapons. and here's what's going to happen. it's completely bizarre, completely devoid of reality approach. sadly, it was a good book, that's probably why it was accepted, inform policy circles in washington. but when you're winning a war, you don't accept the ceasefire. that's just a fact. you know, and when you have expended so much blood and treasure, as russia has also quite a bit short on the 1000000 casualties, the trump claims we can get to that later. but nevertheless,
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when you've expended so much as someone comes along and says, hey, you're winning, but can you stop somebody now? and by the way, you claim will only have a 10 year pause on nato. and in the meantime, the west can continue, can go back to re arming ukraine and getting it ready to fight again. no, i think of putting accepted a deal like that. he would probably, i would say rightly he would be over the phone. because if you really want to always pro, someone like truth and get them to accept such a stupid and suicide, all we've been through maintenance. one is, can we've been through this whole thing before? there's actually no way this works. so how could you come to the tape ball with an offer like this and, and, and, and somehow think that it would work. it's, you're getting, you're, you're getting some bad advice or some another theory that maybe we can talk about later. what's really happening. yeah. and we know that eel musk, who you're kind of saying your boss advisors do it except though in this field particularly. but we've got mosque, we've got to talk a call saying, you know,
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unofficial type people around them let alone tools, the guy would doris k, junior and all these people will clearly say no, this has nothing to do with this. this has to do with the expansion of nato in the 1st place. so, i mean, is he just gonna, is trump, can i get incredibly angry with the people telling him the wrong information, making him look stupid? you kind of said rubio may go early, because trump is going to flip. uh, when he realizes all this information is, is rubbish. and as i understand that he's di, classifying papers, the presumably will show all sorts of corruption. and he's very aware of, uh, ukraine, not so much as a proxy warrant, frustrated because of the ties to the corruption of the binding crime family. a yes, and that's a great angle. it's very important. here's how you can stop is do an audit. and i think they're leaning towards this, do an audit of the spending on, on ukraine, of the $200000000000.00. you know, and you have a, you know,
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the government oversight a chairman in the senate uh by the name of senator rand paul's, who could certainly do some oversight on some of that money out of this stuff. and when you audited americans, we'll see where the money went, and that'll have a huge effect. you know, there's another school of thought on, on trump, and i, i don't know if this is the fact and there are people that i respect who feels strongly this might be some might be the case that he is going to make a deal that he knows will be rejected by both sides and then he can wash his hands, ponce's pilot say, look, this is not my were i didn't start the war. you guys i, i gave you a deal. you didn't want it, you solve it on your own. i mean, i think that would be the best thing in the business. i hate to go to sort of the for the trip chest route. but if this is the game he's playing, then it's, it's going to be a win win for, for everyone. you know, but if he is going down the road of you lost a 1000000, your economies in tatters, i'm going to a sanction a couple more things. and this is going to be a when using for a rude awakening. we have done the same thing. the sanctions on russia,
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year after year, thousands of them and they have not destroyed the russian economy, they destroyed the european economy. so if he goes down that path, he's in for a big l. so yeah, i mean that that's a huge gavia against any optimism daily about trump, but um, i mean the, you, it's a drum trump, but you are the rental institute. know how important. oh, yeah. rome pull. sorry, gravel is this editor who actually differs over israel, which i want to get on to his son if is over that. but um the 1st amendment, the importance of that in your constitution. once it made you feel to see attempt to trying to reclaim that 1st amendment in these early days of a trump administration, i mean that, that presumably you regard is one of the most important things without the 1st amendment. there is nothing. absolutely, and i mean to tackle the, the, the unholy alliance between the government and corporations. i mean, there's a word for it. it starts with an f, a and it's, it's called fascism. you know,
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when the government gets together with corporations and in seeks to deny americans their, their, their fundamental rights. and that's what happened for the last 4 years. and we saw thanks to a journalist like met tell you, be, and others what had happened. and we saw the live blown off of it. and so i think with this early executive orders for bidding federal government officials from colluding with private companies, cortico private companies to deny americans their rights is a very positive thing. and i hope it goes forward. it shouldn't be necessary but, but i think it might be some of some attempts to write some of the wrongs that had been done and also to raise awareness. you know, but i think you also have the danger of that mean the right has its own sort of work side as well. and there are things that they don't like having discussed either. and so, as, as people who are libertarians or anarchist, or whatever, you would say, small government people, sometimes you have to accept speech that you don't like. and you shouldn't try to
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get government to silence it. so i think there's a danger in the us with the read to find and you the read to find interest semitism that the congress has adopted last year in the anti semitism awareness that that includes criticism of the secular state of israel as a potential definition of that the semitism, there's also slippery slope there on the right toward the scorching speech. and i think the, the solution to speech that you may consider hate speech is more speech. so i hope there are, there are still some dangers, but there's some good signs early, i think. yeah, they wanted to put students on visas or express themselves about the kinds of genocide it seems. the 2 of you mentioned that to amy for end of the show, ok, who, who has worked with you all must come into the files. i suppose that's what one really wants over all these issues like ukraine and your intimate there about the work right? that miriam, adults and money do you think will be the deciding factor in preventing free speech
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when it comes to palestine as well? i hope not. i mean she's, she's just one person and she's given a lot of money. but i think that there are some in it, there's a method in terms of madness in a way. i mean he did get the cease fire and maybe he promised netanyahu that hey, i just need to look good when that when, when the cameras are off, you can go back to your, your favorite exercise slaughtering civilians. that may be the case, but nevertheless, the world, the seeing the image is a policy and is coming back to their homes. it's going to be difficult for them to start the deaf machine up again and start bombing. the doctor said they won't try it. they may well do it, but it's going to be more difficult. so this deal is, is overall a very much of a positive thing. and i think we know we know that trump doesn't necessarily live test and yahoo very much. no trouble is that some done things about cleaning out the area, which sounds very, very ominous to me. but nevertheless, i think there's an instinct in him that, that, that wants things to be cleaned up in a, in a better way that no,
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no mess as he wants to disengage trust when the middle east. and i hope, i hope that's the case. yeah, i mean, the bombing of lebanon in the aftermath of the cease fire and the continuing and destruction of the west bank, of course, is going to hand in hand with that you gave the quotes to the private to contract is i suppose, illuminating the fact that the constitution applies not to private entities in your country, but of course facebook, google, then no up there. actually, government contract is and there are huge amounts of money. and then basically solve the, it's a government firm is one of my, the been the say you have you noticed any lab diminution of a censorship for liberty report? i know your own rumble, like we are of the, supposedly trump signed to the executive order. guaranteeing the freedom of speech, i said, i don't know why he has to do that. if you have a constitution anyway, but have you noticed any difference? because presumably the wrongful liberty report hasn't done well from google,
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facebook, twitter, before 11 months. yeah, i mean we, i think we're banned from facebook for a while and a few things like that. i mean, one of the reasons we went around, but while they called us up and said, hey we, we see you having some trouble with youtube. we've got a free speech platform. what did you come up to? to us and we didn't, we were very happy. we've never had a single problem with rumble. and we were worried about youtube. you put a lot of that guy, you know, as well. you put so much effort into a show and, and they get the rug it's pulled out from under you. so i think, you know, i, i think things are certainly better because it's a, it's been recognize now that the tide is turned in our favor. the censorship is not, is not good, but these companies, you're right. i mean, they are, they are not private companies. if they're colluding behind the scenes with governments, you know, to silence american citizens. and there's a misconception that um, the 1st amendment is some have great, the government grants you the right to free speech in the 1st and then that's not the case. the 1st and then a recognizes the natural state of man given to us by our creator,
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that we have the right to do these things. and it's not a government that grants it. and so there's a lot of reckoning americans, so we're confused. well, foreigners shouldn't come over here and have the right to free speech, but you're missing the whole point of it. the whole point is recognizing the state of nature. we should have these, we should have these rights. we should be, we should be an example to the rest of the world. then you'll look adams tag here. thank you. that's it for the show. will we back with the brand new episode on site they have until then keep in touch my last social media of until it sends a new country and to our channel going underground, do you feel normal dot com to watch new and old episodes of going on the grounds he's having the the
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can use to to provide you with the surface to what i should tested because of today was who don't really know what else to do with the physical if it's been misplaced on the funding and done it unless you don't know if it's this thing that i will discipline, you get a few chapters because of them utility to solve the clued up, which is what the key is. the 20. don't know for the book, you know, of course, so sort of open so let me see a couple of the solution to continue with that idea locally. them telling us this was a pretty part of the last thing that this is i've seen. yeah. and yet some level, it's a bonus or southern line, you can, you're more than a region where she will distribution info just because i believe right for i was a scalable body, no new the me she in the hotel. but this to not make the,
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