the, the, just a ball of warm feeling must calls to wipe out the us agency for international development. it is to, to should known for its efforts to remap the world through cruise and chaos. plumber as long as he claims he has no idea where most of the money sent by the, by the government for your train has gone. that's as the suspension of foreign aid by the true white house has officials worried a m p a. and so a lot of politicians urge the state to cut ties with nato's you pain mission as tensions sky, iraq. it was brought to solve the accusing he has of meddling in its domestic affairs. the air watching archie international live in the russian capital. i'm rachel ruble. we

began with a quagmire over where us tax fair money is going. head of the newly established apartments of government efficiency along musk says the us agency of international development must be shut down because it's impossible to fix. and you're savvy is a bowl of want me right. there is no apple and we always know apple does this. you've just got to basically get rid of the whole thing, falls apart for the us. a id, one's one of washington's most food foreign policy tools and now pardon me in need of aid itself. why? because it's found itself in the process of both the us, president honest, we just had the world's richest mind. the trauma read has been building ever since trump took off that sweetie food. hundreds of its employees helping fire disabilities to dispense funds has been frozen. for 90 days, its website was put offline. it's towards the page went dark and now apparently as

must wants to bury it. so he's really taking his, his new job seriously. the final school seems to have been to him when 2 members of his cost cotton team tried to gain access to a part of the agencies headquarters in d. c. they were actually denied entry, apparently because of lack of security clearance as a result to top officials about she's been put on leave and now we go to these room is corruption, even criminality swelling. and the agency really doesn't do anything to debunk these occupations with behavior like this. there were going to support humanitarian efforts and in ukraine. so i wanted to know exactly how those dollars were being spent. we got all kinds of threats from usa id because i was trying to exercise my oversight capacity in congress. so it's quite the food from grace, full usa id,

which of course has been long, a daunting of the american political needs. it must squarely is not mincing words when he does his discussing usaa. you've talked in broad terms about criminality and corruption. do you have any specifics? well, the one who's talking a detailed provide to the notice you've been watching onto you for the last couple of years. relates to us a i d 's involvement in and i'm going to be very generous here. global health initiatives. did you know that us aid using your tax dollars funded by a weapon research, including cobit 19 that killed millions of people? well, this is significant, why it's significant because often tool now from the us that have been denied, deny to not most famously but tore newton to deny that dependent took on that and it denied defend yes. okay. we do support system lives in ukraine and africa. for example. the principal, for the good of mankind were developing vaccines with ensuring that there is no outbreak of infectious disease uses. whereas most was point to something much more

sinister. he's saying, but that research was about creating weapons, overall of mass destruction. this is something the most go has been warning about for years now. and in fact, it's full. but one of the main reasons that one of russia's top generals was assassinated at the end of last year was precisely because he was at the forefront of exposing this us government sponsored abuse of dangerous pathogens. which if nice could re total, how the con, the welts. yeah. can you give us some more background here to usa? i d, it's an agency agency that really is no stranger to controversy. no, i mean it is a 4 an age, but he must, it's functions and over a $150.00 countries that's going to budget of $9050000000000.00. basically it hands out money so it dissolves to release a fighting poverty. but also, and this is where it gets the controversial, it channels funds into civil activism. now it claims, of course,

it's all about promoting democracy. it's a empowering the people. but the issue is, who incidentally, us a id choose is to empower people in nations. what government policies don't align with american and trust and co, incidentally way us cash flows, very often mass protests and sometimes even crews take place. now the most obvious example of this, if you paid us a i d, had been active, that's the over 2 decades. and it's what really culminated in the 2014 might done cool. this was admitted by r s k junior, the nephew of the very man who actually found to be agency j, f k. u as a id, which is the front point $5000000000.00 in the funding. those riots, those riots lead to the uh, to it could a talk against the 1st elect, the democrat, the claim of the ukraine,

a mazda before that comment is over on victoria newland was you know, the part of the center piece of the economy audiology and who is now a high level official and the state department has a secret call with us in passenger, which is tape record and is now public, which anybody can go and look up where she is picking the new cabinets, the u. k. ukraine. it really is just the tip of the iceberg. all her still global need to have accused usa idea of really pushing for that. a doubtful. i mean, just to highlight reel by the rest of the 2020 mass protest us sponsoring position groups incentives way not. it was actually kicks out of bolivia by as president morales off the he on carpet. they had been funding set protest groups and some of the nations which just regions lots of listing. but let's not forget, it was also in public stone and syria, and i'm actually with the agencies very notorious heads about the power has visited

budapest, hungary. this of course, is a your pin nation which does not tow the line. we know one issues like belgy b, t o ukraine point to just to erupt of saying, oh color red, produce an incoming. last but not least, we have georgia, the american tax payers money cannot be used to organize a revolution in georgia. do you remember the canvas training when representatives of the cultural spear were trained to organize a revolution in georgia? us a id, money was used specifically for this. the trump administration stated that american funding, american tax payer money was being used to destabilize the situation in other countries. and to create revolutionary scenarios, we can save time on again, why usa i take pops up very close behind, very often as instability and often violence. and thank you, of course the question, i won't point this, coincidence become a pass. and i know what point does a pattern become a strategy?

yeah, so you mentioned the strategy strategy requires money. what, what are the numbers we're talking about here? let's put it this way. what i'm going, i'm going to put in your head dump. let's put your plat times it by 10 us a id is one of washington's most well funded offices. usaid, by the way, is a $50000000000.00 budget. the entirety of the intelligence community is only 72000000000. so it is as more than the c. i a and more than the state department. wow. and it is basically a usa, it as effectively as which player to, to assist the pentagon with, with it on the national security front to assist the state department on the national interest front. or to assist the intelligence community on a, on a sort of clandestine operations. now people might accuse me of cynicism. they say, look, usa idea of just charitable, but we also need to be realistic. the world of great power politics is not one of self since it is a game of the new frame of looking for weak spot. so investing and then

guaranteeing a return on your investment us a id is a normal budget, is a reflection supposed to be the greatest reflection of the senate for role, but it has played in manifesting some of the white houses, greatest streams of shape. pick the wild as best suits washington's interest. it isn't all that stops in the open office and spread the word around the world. so you chop off the on the power point for office diminishes. that is why this is such a big story and that is why walks and regime change and sees yes in dc up and all we can across live now to solomon java, director general at pakistan, afghanistan that you, it's for, i'm someone good to have you on the program with us, you know, unless it's using us an idea of funding, biological weapons research. russia has long warned of suspicious activities by us organized by a labs around the world. how much of

a concert has this issue been for pakistan, the web. right, and bucks on, uh, usa it or any other donor than to from the north central america of that kind of from any of the best time you open printers. i have, i have, have already been seen with this couple of them from the, from the general population of the letter from uh, different of the photos and lots of place and thought it is. but it goes up in our biological lab is concerned many in bucks on actually believe that the recognition programs or any of that has programs we've been funded by such organizations such as other than just such as us and they do get in certain kinds of events which can actually, it's like the end of the, of the general population and what empty and the people that contributes it truly does better rich solidify this, this kind of concept that they're probably you have been used a guinea pigs by these. but the labs, uh do you know, a test these, these definitions or the folks and what population and then you them as fit as well

to, you know, add to, but fit your data on agenda. so in progress on, obviously it has been, it has been seen with skepticism and the august 5th, the kind of good some of the play with special inspector for afghanistan reconstruction has repeatedly accused usa id of misusing funds. aimed at humanitarian aid for afghanistan. is this a situation that's widespread? it is up and you say i forgot it also to put it back in 2018 and 19 that are on 1800000000 database. but missing from, from the usa projects which been rich rubbing. uh, you know, folders towards a one of thought uh recently. is this the got it also made a lot of reports and produce a lot headboard between the the but they also said that all the i and do that and use uh, which would be an invoice up at the depot are of thought about and in the want us on the funds which were given to a one is done around 300000000. the piece has been missing the country,

the consent of so many of the many ability to stick with investments. and recently the term also mentioned that around $40000000.00 they've been funded for that one of them, but we pulled that up for them. not been a given. don't want to send to the us here, but they, many of the agencies funding that on the best of the united states, we are traveling king inside of one. it's fun. and i think you have it also being seen as such, organization, doctors, y a, b, b, c. such of that's, that's, that's kind of, i mean, it said that the usa id has been met with as much skepticism in pakistan. the millions has been spent by usa, i d, a decade ago, reportedly brought in and reported. they brought little change to the challenges that is on the bod. faced how has usa id been used in, in your country to,

to influence the situation or exact change of the methodology that the, the den says deprive overhead in another country go to another part of the word is that they do not directly give this kind of a to the, to the government or to the state to or against other they've funded this with these funds to defend uh, other organizations or the deal that i and use. so we do, we do see every, we don't see any kind of uh, you know, uh, a set to mit ships of septic change over here and never society or in about uh, searching uh elements where we would want to see some kind of development or change like in the, in the development of the any of the educational platform. we do not see any kind of change in dr. doc. so i think us it a while giving funds to this and go ahead and do a good actually trying to the picture and the political agenda, insight bucks on other than the sun as well. so we see

a lot of will give them over here. we see a lot of, uh, uh, you know, uh, uprising, or kind of, uh, organizations popping up in terms of pets on which were trying to, uh, carrier such kind of factor with them which was not in the interest of the country . so uh, usaid. uh, 1st time uh, by the way it went to a band one of the us agency before uh, you know, a back in the back end, but there is a 12 quotes the children. so yes, it is lloyd, you know, more different from what little, what was so you said that your name was being in the apartments of gave you to me actually see no, no change from, from the side of your head that they bought the bucks. fine, and we actually see that this is the kind of a political agenda which was like, you were mentioning it to you if you ever less than that. uh it was, it was a long um of then, well, this is and offered united states of america. and that it went to your federal bring in bucks, financing. all right, so i'm gonna try that director general pakistan, afghanistan,

that use form. thank you. a tier of the main recipient of usa, i. d grand. so since the crime conflict began, has been riled by the trump whitehouse. the suspension of foreign aid in the bottom are zalinski is demanding more money. but when asked by american journalist where all the cash that flow during the bite and presidency has gone, you printing later claimed he hasn't actually seen most of the reported funds. the uncle julia, bye here, and have heard before. and today we hear from the us on that america gave you crane hundreds of billions, allow a 177000000000 to be precise. this was the exact figure that was supported or voted on by congress and various organizations not look as the president of a war and country. i tell you, we have received more than 75. that is, we never received 100000000000 out of these 177, or even 200 and some people say, this is important. i don't know where all that money is. royce. so where has the

money gone? according to a report to crane has been riddled with corruption since the might on 2 in 2014, when billions in western financial aid poured into calf. well, another area for alarm is the black market, dependent on by its own admission, has repeatedly failed to track the weapons sent to crane with those armed packages reported late flooding europe and being legally traded. and it appears a large portion of the dollars allocated for ukraine never crosses, american borders or port siding, especially us documents say a major portion goes to us defense industries raising further concerns about misappropriation. we discussed the complexities with our to contributor tar read. so that's a lot of money now, some of the money was actual weapons, so they were given weapons. even those weapons were gone. and we've done stories about talking about how, where are those weapons they didn't make it to crank, then they to find out they were sold on the black market and some ended up in

europe. so you have a nest of corruption right now. and of course you have zelinski at the top of it. now he knows there's a new sheriff in town. donald trump. and so donald trump's going to be asking some questions about where is that $100000000000.00? so yes, there is money there, so you're talking about defense contractors. you're talking about n g o is that were funded, you know, that were fueled by the democrats. you're talking about, um, you know, how much is that personally benefit lindsey graham. many of them sit on the boards of some of these weapons when you've manufacturer, so they personally benefits. they also make trades and the ones that are public. so you're talking a lot of money that's changing hands. and then also there's been money that's gone over to ukraine, that has disappeared and gone into of pockets and shown up in the form of like lamborghini is with some of these ukrainian oligarchy. you have an illegitimate president and ukraine. there's been no elections held. he's obviously, you know,

as a tucker, carlson referred to him a little dictator. and so for him he just wants to get as much money as he possibly can before he has to disappear. the other stuff like national party has asked that the state not even consider sending troops to ukraine, while the country's defense ministry confirmed and made a request for i to specialists to work for the blocks ukraine mission. it says there are no plans to put boots on the ground that says prime minister robert fits are recently accused ikea of military unit of preparing a clue in slovakia. how's that ready for my teeth to remind me based on the information we have so we can confirm that the people behind the organization of the rallies in slovakia are whether any one wants to believe it or not. as we have all the necessary information, the georgia national legion amount to georgia national legion is a military organization, which is part of the ukrainian army. officially, the georgia national legion is run by ukrainian intelligence and the ministry of

defense of ukraine. the georgia legion of foreign soldiers is undoubtedly trained for special tasks primarily abroad. last year, robert pizza survived an assassination attempt to buy a pro ukrainian active as the leader has since accused opposition. politicians of polluting with blood mares zalinski to overthrow his government's tensions. balloons after the prime minister linked a series of sweeping pro western protests to foreign forces. as the resultant slovak authorities have banned to the commander of the george and legion fighting and ukraine and 9 others from entering in the country. apart from that to ukrainian national was detained for allegedly plotting a crew with a slovak foreign ministry, directly accusing yeah, of meddling in the country's domestic affairs. the ministry of foreign affairs, some of the baset or of ukraine to slovakia. it conveyed a sharp protest against the statements from the ukrainian side and considered that

to be interference and the internal affairs of the slovak republic. i haven't brought the slop. i have also been at loggerheads over you frames decision to put the transitive russian guys to europe after robert feed, so criticized the move louder as elizabeth claimed the prime minister was prioritizing moscow over the united states and its allies. slovakia has threatened to respond to the frozen gas line by cutting electricity supplies to ukraine and pulling support for the countries refugees. all right, let's discuss this further now with yoseph, victoria and former somebody military attache and army general general victorian good to have you on the program with us natal security assistance and training for you crane has requested 6 i to experts from the slovak military, despite the process slot of halting its assistance to key f y would football can't take part in these operations. you know, it's not totally, always easy. as far for this restaurant we are and

a member of neither europe in union. but as a reminder, is we have to go to exit or carlo pasco, well dar touching or member countries. this is this clear uh for a better understanding, but, you know, is what it says is refresh on that you'd be talking about some kind of come on military operation doesn't methylation operational one. you'd be talking it without a soldier of which we would be responsible for to think of the logistics threatening of something like this is what is the question for us to lock you guys? what are some of the question for, for the leaders, especially in quality, from leaders and this sensitive for me as well. so you can use our neighbor, we have to organize, go through relation. and to be know i'm going to go guys. and ukraine is not really ready to organize, good early terms. so like, especially with this, got them government from these reason. i think this just now and cutting time is mistake to organize and sense order to the operation to the bedroom and malls to organize some kind of i'll do say military task military,

the leading military operation in the logistics area, not only or on the defendant training folder on some different kind of place. i think this is not really good to sticking out for the, for the people, because now we're people who they do their cook. nice hobbies and the possibility hobbies in the situation in ukraine and res ucr ends into the rock. yeah. well they knew what they're doing here. what they did during those some demonstration of purpose that a little bit not really hip is this kind of in their day position is lucky because we are absolutely ready. we help them so much and people understood. and the beginning of i'm going through a solution. and understood, they need some help, especially in the syrians, children, mothers with children and so on and so on. and people who are sick. but now we receive back uh, ukraine demonstration on the new grand people demonstrate their gaze caught and

going slow. like, yeah, this is funny, but there's not really fun these very end to finally, it's not really funny because this is in our, our country and we've done the meet the sky and they'll have to say impact from this. i'm for the nurse to organize and go to their most nation with calling about them and these other country. so like, yeah, is we have so what about government? an old people at the side hallway to be in the future. so like you or is it the national party, seems genuinely concerned that slovaks soldiers could be sent to you. crane. how likely is that scenario given the current intentions between process while button to evade no way to code nice. i know your, some kind of you formation for a minister of defense. yes, there's some proposal about this kind of operation to defense few soldiers to the duty to better jump to the most for some of the pretty patients on kind of a patient from the world logistical point of view. and it's like, i don't even want to go over me like, i'll help this 1st 2nd. mean,

it's still defense though. they uh, be helpful for me to still defense. inform or slow like people or political parties. for sure. we will not send our groups all the soldiers to the ukraine. this is because there's only this was not the only problem is from the prime minister feet. so this is from is from our president all quality sion 5 cuz they signed the paper a few months ago. dimension is no way to send soldiers to ukraine. know all the soldiers most like sold a little building that you put in place. this is what they have to, but they have to mention if uh, if you ask me this question. okay, robert. faith so has publicly accused ukrainian military unit of staging. a cool, what kind of push to crane to such drastic measures? do you think a 2nd please? right, robert fav, so is accusing. are you printing and military unit of staging a who in slovakia, why wouldn't ukraine do something like this?

it sits, it see i mentioned in the beginning, i mentioned in the beginning because we have some, uh, many protests and or limitation you would like and i'll position organize and is a, it's a absolutely easy if you analyze sounds kind of situation has many flux. that's all i can slow, i can is only a few, but many places from ukraine, not only from you as well. you okay and different countries and after some kind of uh, investigation, i guess the dimensions is kinda the worst thing. i know we just figured it shouldn't be ordered. the see, this one kind of intelligence operation from ukraine is, is next step to, to participate in the most stations to organize and to send some kind of this, our military impact for who, who sold that. for example, in the georgia, georgia on our leg. yeah. the slow i get to organize some kind of some kind of situation. we will see how we build as a little boost because we have to, we have to waiting for some kind of investigation process. how we're doing that as

well for these and how we, they proposal for, for the, for the charge or over for the, for other. so i'm kind of uh, brooklyn others. okay. and training and tell jenny has denied any ties to the military unit in question. i want to play a clip for you and our viewers to listen to and i'll ask for your comment afterwards. you know, with the yeah, and this is a normal as normal, that action from the intelligence side of his. nobody from being done just out of invention. okay. you know, some soldiers in your plays, they organize, i'm seeing, and we know about these, i'm sorry for never will be this kind of a communication from the intelligence. so it doesn't matter. we talking, but you could, i could be real talking about some different kind of contents of it the same. they never have to say and able to, to say, i've also, i'm kind of input from the intelligence intelligence others and the different companies. and exactly, they have to, they have to recognize this kind of signal from the intelligence main things i just have just let me okay. and but still, so uh, my personal view step,

our professional and personal view of this is not through from you, from uh, your current site. okay, well, i've seen a series of back and forth accusations between 5th, so and zalinski with a zelinski even calling on interpol and slovak intelligence to investigate feed. so for negotiating with russia as a former diplomat yourself, what's your reaction to that? as i, as i mentioned that we spoke about these, i think is in the previous time uh, something that we thought it was open ation from different countries thought it could be some kind of slip 1st type problem. zalinski was he put something in the, in the social media and the sort of like language to you for them to like people and about of fetal position in the, in the, in the brussels. they mentioned fruits always working visit our shop. it says not working, these uh, europe, this was 1st the previous slide. this is a normal according go manual from what intelligence operation is on the 1st body

over to get the respect for some kind of uh, beginning of operation. second one is absolutely verde worthy, but step from the you could i, if i'm the ukraine side of this region, by the by does, i'll ask you, he is stop gaskets, look like you, you know the, i may, but as i mentioned, we have to working on how to find some economic out by spells or might that to be done to like each other, but we have to thinking it with our our people, sla government thing, think of as a lot of people and ukraine, a government or soleski types of thinking. it would do kind people, but the vc and to be recognized. we didn't the, he now that i'm seeing the thinking about the ukraine people is up sort of the only for him is on the policy. and he play a game like in the show that are on the, on the beach, you know, nothing, nothing sprag my think, nothing practical only only on the game, according exactly, all appraisal. spend some, some confidence from the best, especially from the u. k. i have to mention a mention is a long stay halting russian gas transit to slovakia. i know the select government

is pressuring him to resume that, and it's also looking into energy cooperation with turkey a and as or by john, how do you see this situation playing? out, is there a path that you consider to be preferable? always, i thought it was very important meeting to europe in union, and our prime minister was there. and this was a, this was up for realty, questionable the enough just security for the, for this little i can you it up and exactly. we have many proposals bundled. the proposal is okay. we got accepting the other by john the other by john gus from other by john wheel gigabytes and reveal uh put sold the ukraine to to like yeah, there's a 1st you could, i mean you kind of side door loans convention. no, no way out of those. and the reason in the, in the door, gabriel was very practical fragmatic, you know, on the up to, according to my, my experience from the dorcas spend that a small, almost 6 years they are practical and the yes, everything is. and the other thing is of them done. everything is in the,

according go for get the city. and the facility from the doctor sites from beesley isn't. is the most absolutely unique from the primary said i know to use the spokesman, but the is it to me supporting was absolutely uh, effective to play this game and to speak this and the daughter side is, are by john and the europe information. and i whole but new to been going to want that i to thinking about the gone 300 and a member. not about you could i even know about that landscape because there's not a member of europe in union. you will not be dictate how europe and you know, have to working with a number of states as a well know. there's a new us administration um with donald trump and back in the white house and, and as expected, there's a mass of shift in his approach to global policy. how do you expect and us slovak relations to change under this trump presidency? who exactly every single been the trends because in guilford.