send the according go for get the city and the facility from the authority sites from these reason is the most absolutely unique from the primary said i know to hear. so spokesman, but the uh, is it, let me start putting was absolutely, uh, effective to play this game and to speak with you soon. i thought of your side is, are by john and the europe information. and i hold into it, i've been going to shunt that i was thinking about the quantity of water in the member. not about you could, i didn't know about that landscape because there's not a member of europe in union. you will not be dictate how europe and you know, have to working with a number of states as a well no, there's a new us administration um with donald trump and back in the white house and, and as expected, there's a mass of shift in his approach to global policy, how do you expect and us slovak relations to change under this trump presidency? who exactly every single been the trans? because and go, police go for it to go go. but if it goes situation,

we will be trying to real recently in our, to cook nice hallways on the position of common us. and, you know, in the future for the, for the, for the europe is about 40, takes a lot of thinking about own people to save over. you know, of the 1st position, not the international relations is not so not important is important but not in the 1st priority. and i couldn't think of these uh, i think, uh, but i mean just our feet. so on the president problem, if they will speak and they will, they will understand each other because, you know, questionable, brought them up and thought somebody was ready to show them our prime ministers, some of the ones that are there shouldn't do them. they some kind of breach or joining the whole dwanda send to each other. how was in the situation in previous time, liberal and progressive lines try to use all kinds of my thoughts to push down people what of thinking nationally, what are thinking about and people, okay, if i say it might action, okay,

we're gonna leave it there. thank you so much for much like military attache an army general yoseph victoria in the go to mazda again for invitation me to all right, and that is going to do for me for now, but do stay with us. my colleague union o'neill will be next on archie in about half an hour with more news by the, [000:00:00;00] the mastery and or tennessee welcome back to going underground, broadcasting all around the world, from the middle east. the 2nd phase of negotiations between israel and palestine. resistance organizations is due to begin, as donald trump fails to ethnically cleansed,

some 2300000 palestinians into jordan in egypt and trump administration. we also need to keep an eye on brussels today, as believe you need is media alongside nato boss of elk river and u. k. p. m. as a gustavo, all of whom seek to prolong the proxy war on russia through grain. ironic then that it's a few years to the day since allies you as president roosevelt. you gave him winston churchill and russians. joseph stalin, met to forward your peaceful well to the old confidence in crimea at the end world war 2. joining me now for leg jackson, texas is the executive director of the run full institute for peace and prosperity . daniel mcadams. he goes there on pool liberty reported x u. s. presidential candidate. wonderful. who we little must golf and a position to in the new trump administration. daniel, thanks so much for coming on. i hope a run pool as well in the institution as well. i know he didn't take up the invitation for milan musk i noticed to join the department of government efficiency . i don't know whether you have the details on that. why i didn't want to do it. it

probably didn't refuse it. actually there was he didn't. the citizen didn't want a formal title. yeah, he didn't. he doesn't need another job. he's, you know, he's been there and done that, but i think what he's done is he's, he's been, well, i'll come get into it. and he's sort of serving as a kind of mentor, i suppose. and he and he offers his thoughts on ways to sort of morse, philosophical way of really address the problems of government overreaching over spending. and so many of the times when he puts out some advice to you and we'll recreate it, sometimes done junior well retreated. so it's, uh, it's right now it's working out very well and he's happy to not have some kind of a formal relationship enjoyable to watch all this waste of money over so many years being identified and stopped. and i mean, you do a board costs the limits the reports. we now know presumably that the, so many so called the independent postcards were being basically funneled money through usa,

the all around the world. it would destroy the imaginations of the people in places and all around the world without the american people even realizing that tax dollars were going towards propaganda. and that's one of the fascinating things we've seen this early week of the trump administration, where he's but you know, as he put out an executive order to put a stop to all this development aid and that's effective. but the state department does overseas, and i think the amazing effect of it thus far has been to sign a light on just how much is going on the proceeds as if he was probably know the national government for democracy, which is our regime change machine here in the us stop publishing the grants that it gives out in the name of transparency, i guess. so we don't know who gets their money, which we need to know. and so stopping all of this when it we just saw. i think 2 days ago, some of the pop propagandists in ukraine that popped up by america are saying, hold on, our money is not coming anymore. can you guys, you know, spot us a couple of a couple of bucks here in there. so it's really highlighting the destruction of

democracy done in the name of promoting democracy. and i hope this is only the beginning. would you think? we'll see the end of the national endowment for democracy. we've talked about it on this show for you isn't how it works. hand in hand with uh, well, it has worked had it had with death squads a no. absolutely. and it's, it's profoundly anti american, you know, america had, you know, at least a 4 year panic attack over the false accusations that the russians were meddling in our elections. we've had a, you know, a democratic election or maybe it cancelled for false accusations, or the russians meddling in the election. you know, so, so we, on this side of it, you know, have a panic attack whenever this happens. but somehow we feel free to meddle in the elections overseas. i found it rather amusing to see chests or shots of a critic besides the

e one must for here for expressing his opinion about him. he would like to see winning the german elections and the, the, the speaker on the part of the, in georgia re posted the non ex a. well, what about when all the people from your own party were here meeting with the opposition and supporting them and tried to help them when? so there's a real, there's a real level of hypocrisy among the us into european leaders and hopefully shining a light on that. we'll have some positive effect. yeah, schultz. the hated the leader in the gym. the 80 by the german people have at the time of his record and he's still translate presumably. but of course, the deep state hasn't gone away. and i suppose it's predictable that we're hearing some elements opposing trump's desire to trim down all these nefarious activities. we come to think of it. we still don't even, i mean, you mentioned the russia hooks. we still don't even really understand what the assassination attempts against trump. for about doing. i mean,

what's your understanding of liberty reported about this loan? the gunman who shots the president. so before he was elected the most certainly a right feels for conspiracy theories because we just haven't gotten any, any information about it. what, who is the asking, what, why was it so quick to get rid of the body? you know, what was, what was going on. it would be nice to know more about this and hopefully we will. i mean, it seems, it seems like, and i don't want to be too optimistic. i'm gonna be a poll here in here. but this is like an administration bus bar that's interested in shining the light of some of the lives told to us by the government. and now, you know, he was probably know for several weeks, a few weeks ago, americans were ready to go to world war 3 with china because there were a few drones flying over new jersey. right. and now we find out from this new administration that the old administration knew all about it, they knew that it was already approved, but it was just

a government operation. what have you. but they let the american people believe that we were under attack by chinese drones, i guess to ramp up the fear. so you know, the best in the best disinfectant really is transparency. and i would just say more, more, more of it. do you think we never get jealous? i jo butcher blinking the rest of them to on. so for all these, uh, well, the waste of money for a start of the american people, while your infrastructure has been destroyed over generations, let alone the foreign policy of they have advocated that they have to be called to account. under this trump administration. i mean, scaling, trump is going to call into account for the russia hooks, presumably as well. there are many ways of being called into account having your reputation ruined forever. is one of those ways i think any one associated i would be surprised to see someone like blinking back in any, in any way. you'll probably story off something think somewhere, you know,

funded by some you know, a notary industrial complex company. what have you, but haven't you reputation ruined hertz? i think, i mean, i have to be a religious person. so i think ultimately, we'll all be judged by our activities honors. so there may be an ultimate judgement there for the, for the murder and mayhem under the 4 years of binding. but let's not forget 5 and spend 50 years, endorsing murder and mayhem. you never saw a war that he didn't want to support. he talked to good talk, but in the anti voted for all of the evil wars of the george w bush administration, and so on and so on. so this is just the, you know, the, the, the, the cap of a long career of being a fairly blood soaked american neil con politician. yeah. i mean, a lot of people want to go, that's the punishment to say fucking punishment for these people. what i mean, the bizarrely we had mex blumenthal of the grades are the ones that they show and he's previously indicated some optimism about the heck. so that's what you would normally expect him being a christian scientists with this famous tattoo,

which is what it means for the palestinians. but will, it will, is presence that the pen to can be a breath of fresh air in the sense that he won't be doing business as usual, the largest military budget and the well. so, i mean, it's hard to temper your optimism and expectations. i mean, what i would like depending on to be like, and what i can realistically believe it will, would be like in a positive way or to a very different things. you know, we have an outgoing secretary of defense who is completely useless who was absolutely beholden to the military industrial complex. the defense contractors didn't give a damn about the, the, the consequences of, of thousands killed. and so you have this incoming, a secretary of defense who come or who in drug they just where you get to heck said, i should say lloyd austin is a direct, right. think of raphael. and so you'll benefit from any trump, i know. but anyway, yeah that's, that's,

that's how it works. that's how it works. so heads up is an outside or key is you're right. he has extremist views when it comes to his, his religion on it, in terms of his real. and that's rather concerning. however, as an outside or i think he, he will also be beholden to president trump. but the other thing that i would just say option is that something interesting is happening independent gone and we, maybe we can talk about it a bit later. but, but you, i like that a piece of the last week. it was in the free press. i know he's a neil con rider and he is having an absolute panic attack as well on what's happening inside the republican party. the fight between the old right, which is researching in the republican party and the new cause that have been the driver seat since i would say the reagan ministration. 1983. and you know, something in that or what you're seeing. some people coming in the 2nd year in the pentagon who are now on the non intervention and so they're not where i am, but they're what we would call realistic restrain,

or is they believe we should have a restrained form policy. and these are people, i hesitate to say the names because i'll put a target on them. but then caldwell have a top policy position depending on a non restrained or el bridge. colby, who i disagree with on many things, but he's definitely in favor of restraints. he's a, he's the grandson of the, of the, of the same c i a director of a back in the sixty's. um you have um with uh, michael domino. yeah. the uh, william club. yes. sorry. so michael domino is gonna be, uh, is going to be uh, a uh, a senior position dealing with my lease policy. and has been critical of israel's behavior in the region. and doesn't believe we should go to war with iran. and there are a few others. andrew buyers is one, and they have allies and people like don junior. so eli lake is writing about this as what a disaster and when a nightmare this is and people like me or looking at it saying there's something hopeful because, you know, awesome, this is what the neil comes always did. they would and i've seen it. i saw it when george w bush came in. i was close to some people who were,

who were populating the administration there, and i saw how it work. you get so many in, at a certain level. and they just, they bring in all of their people and they don't have very, very effectively. so it's nice to see some people on the other side to a little bit more dedicated to a realistic form policy doing the same thing. so what i think this might be, is you might have a, a state department, this reactive us what they might be tempered by a pendant on this hold on. we can't do that. this is not going to happen. we don't have the ability to do this. and that's a healthy thing, that's what i was hoping for, and the trump administration to see the stop lights that assistance how he does his business. he loves that people playing off against each other. people have opposing views, taking it out while he sits back in and makes his decision. this is the 1st hint. i've seen that this might be the case in, in his administration, and i'm very happy to see it. i have to say, yeah. and like you said, we have to temper things buddy trump watches, rupert murdoch's fox news in their foreign policy agenda. very clear payments are

firing, tucker, carlson, and there is waltz and ruby, a waltz, his natural security advisor. and i should say joe bolton was on this show the other day as long as having national security advisor. i don't think, well, just going to be as, as a individualist as a, as bolton, but to wells. and monica rubio, who i don't know uh, in your atmosphere may launch your full scale or with the sudden image fear, which has always been his i, i, dear, they're closer to what they, i mean, even before it gets to the pentagon and beat exit every day, i know that the confirmation hearings have been going on with the lieutenant colonel tools he gathered and so on. but wilts is in a very powerful position and rubio is the secretary of state. he's the blink configure or yeah, was, is i think the one to be more worried about the, than will be, i think what's gonna happen to rubio. and it's just, just speculation i'm, i probably get a show about it a few days ago is that he's going to be a very weak secretary of state. he's going to be

a figurehead and he's going to be the fall guy to do things. the truck doesn't want to do, and that may entice him to leave before too long. i just think that i think he's, he's, we're line perform policy advice on people that are closer to him that are outside of the sort of traditional that the us, the executive departments. he's relying more on personal relationships rather than you know, that we've traditionally seen things organized. so i think he rubio, aside from that, as you say, he made he, you know, he's always been, you know, drooling about venezuela in cuba. aside from that, i don't think he's going to be particularly powerful. a secretary states, a waltz on the other hand, is very close to the president. i think those of us who fall the form policy closely when they listen to what he says, he seems very ill informed about the rest of the world. he doesn't seem to understand that russia is not losing. and ukraine, sorry. mike isn't that's not happening in that invading. iran will not be a cake walk. we've heard that before. and in fact, it's interesting because most did work for george

w bush. that's where he comes from. that says no you what the annual get so good to you. great by to uh stop you. okay. more from the costar, their own pool, liberty report, and executive director of their own bull institute after this. bring the the welcome back to going underground. obviously, with the coast guard, their own pul, liberty report, executive director of their own pull is to do daniel mcadams. daniel, you were talking about to ukraine, and misapprehensions was information. literally the donald trump maybe being fed since he uh, went back to the oval office,

actually the cold lake and keep catalog seems with that he could possibly be the ukraine on boy, isn't it? i know you're saying that he's playing people off of do you think that some ways of getting the information that he can leverage sanctions on russia has somehow in any deal over the proxy or in russia, 3 grade when when the, as we know rush has done really well out of the sanctions and the only sanctions i understand in the for uranium 2 of us nuclear power stations, that's the only sanction to a trump administration. i mean, clearly that's being seen. is it the all take all around the world as well? i guess you could say that i had the misfortune of doing foreign policy in or in the dc area for a couple of decades. and so i know that it's a circular argument. you know, anyone who speaks outside of the, the sort of generally accepted wisdom is considered, you know, freaks. and that's, that's how it was being there. there are for very few people and they can hurt you if he was, will kill on the product of that. i mean, he's

a product of that know you and he thinks like everyone else who thinks in, in, in the but you know, he did this goofy piece with bread flights. he's an old deal con, old line. neal con, actually worked for john bolton for quite some time. so they came up with this crazy article. i'm sure you remember back in early 24, mid, 24. whenever it was about, here's how we can do it. we're going to have a, we're going to freeze the conflict for a 100 days and you know, and we're going to tell good. and if you don't come to the table, we'll give it a sanction you. and we're going to tell you, create a funeral, come to the table, we're going to stop giving your weapons. and here's what's gonna happen. it's completely bizarre, completely devoid of reality approach. sadly, it was a good book, that's probably why it was accepted, inform policy circles in washington. but when you're winning a war, you don't accept the ceasefire. that's just a fact. you know, and when you have expended so much blood pressure as russia has also quite a bit short on the 1000000 casualties,

the trump claims we can get to that later. but nevertheless, when you've expended so much as someone comes along and says, hey, you're winning, but can you stop fighting now? and by the way, are you crazy? we'll only have a 10 year pause on nato. and in the meantime, the west can continue, can go back to read the arming ukraine and getting it ready to fight again. now, i think of putting accepted a deal like that. he would probably, i would say rightly he would be overthrown. because if you really want to always pro, someone like truth and get them to accept such a stupid and suicidal, we've been through maintenance one. and this can, we've been through this whole thing before. there's actually no way this works. so how could you come to the tape ball with an offer like this and, and, and somehow think that it would work. it's, you're getting, you're, you're getting some bad advice or some another theory that maybe we can talk about later. what's really happening. yeah, and we know that eel musk, who you're kind of saying your boss advisors do it except though in this field

particularly. but we got musk. we got to talk a call saying, you know, unofficial type people around them let alone tools, the guy would not have k junior and all these people will clearly say, no, this has nothing to do with this. this has to do with the expansion of nato in the 1st place. so, i mean, is he just gonna, is trump, can i get incredibly angry with the people telling him the wrong information, making him look stupid? you've kind of said rubio may go early, because trump is going to flip. uh, when he realizes all this information is, is rubbish. and as i understand that he's d, classifying papers, the presumably will show all sorts of corruption. and he's very aware of a ukraine not so much as a proxy warrant, frustrated because of the ties to the corruption of the bible crime family us. yes . and that's a great angle. it's very important. here's how you can stop us. do an audit and i think they're leaning towards this. do an audit of the spending on,

on ukraine of the $200000000000.00. you know, and you have a, you know, the government oversight a chairman in the senate uh by the name of senator rand paul's, who could certainly do some oversight on some of that money audit this stuff. when you audited americans, we'll see where the money went. and that'll have a huge effect, but you know, there's another school of thought on, on trump, and i, i don't know if this is the fact and there are people that i respect who feel strong. this might be, this might be the case that he is going to make a deal that he knows will be rejected by both sides. and then he can wash his hands punches pilot, say, look, this is not my were i didn't start the war. you guys i, i gave you a deal, you didn't want it, you solve it on your own. i mean, i think that would be the best thing in the business. i hate to go to sort of the for the trip chest route. but if this is the game he's playing, then it's, it's going to be a win win for, for everyone. you know. but if he is going down the road of you lost a 1000000, your economies in tatters, i'm going to a sanction a couple more things. and this is going to be a when using for

a rude awakening. we have done the same thing, the sanctions on russia, year after year, thousands of them and they have not destroyed the russian economy, they destroy the european economy. so if he goes down that path, he's in for a big l. so yeah, i mean that, that is a huge caveat against any optimism. clearly about trump, but um, i mean the, you at the drum drum, but you are the rental institute. know how important. oh yeah, rome pull, sorry, gravel is this editor who actually differs over israel, which i want to get on to, isn't it? if it's over that, but um, the 1st amendment, the importance of that in your constitution, what's it made you feel to see attempt to trying to reclaim that 1st amendment in these early days of a trump administration? i mean that, that presumably you regard is one of the most important things without the 1st amendment. there is nothing. absolutely. and i mean, to tackle the me, the unholy alliance between the government and corporations. i mean, there's

a word for it. it starts with an f, a and it's, it's called fascism. you know, when the government gets together with corporations and, and seeks to deny americans their, their, their fundamental rights. and that's what happened for the last 4 years. and we saw thanks the originals like met how you mean others what had happened and we saw the live blown off of it. and so i think with this early executive orders for bidding federal government officials from colluding with private companies, clinical, private companies to deny americans their rights is a very positive thing and i hope it goes forward. it shouldn't be necessary. um, but, but i think it might be uh, some ups or some attempts to write some of the wrongs that had been done and also to raise awareness. uh, you know, but i think you also have the danger of that mean the right has its own sort of work side as well. and there are things that they don't like having discussed either. and so, as, as people who are libertarians or anarchist, or whatever, you would say, small government people,

sometimes you have to accept speech that you don't like. and you shouldn't try to get government to silence it. so i think there's a danger in the us with the read to find a new the read to find and to semitism that the congress has adopted last year and the anti semitism awareness that that includes criticism of the secular state of israel as a potential definition of the semitism there's also slippery slope there on the right toward the scorching speech and i think the, the solution to speech that you may consider hate speech is more speech. so i hope there are, there are still some dangers, but there's some good signs early, i think. yeah, they wanted to put students on visas to express themselves about the kinds of genocide it seems. the toys of you mentioned that to amy friend of the show. ok, who of course worked with the law must go on the to the files. i suppose. that's what one really ones over all these issues like ukraine and you intimate there about the, the work right? that miriam,

adults and money. do you think will be the deciding factor in preventing free speech when it comes to pablo side as well? i hope not. i mean she's, she's just one person and she's given a lot of money, but i think there are some in there's a method to jump to madness in a way. i mean he did get the ceasefire and maybe he promised netanyahu that hey, i just need to look good when that when, when the cameras are off, you can go back to your, your favorite exercise slaughtering civilians. and that may be the case, but nevertheless, the world of seeing the image is a policy and it's coming back to their homes. it's going to be difficult for them to start the death machine up again and start bombing the job to say they won't try it. they may well do it, but it's going to be more difficult. so this deal is, is overall a very much of a positive thing. and i think we know we know that trump doesn't necessarily live dressing yahoo very much. no trouble said some dumb things about cleaning out the area, which sounds very, very ominous to me. but nevertheless, i think there's an instinct in him that, that,

that wants things to be cleaned up and obtain a better way that no, no mess as he wants to disengage trust when the middle east. and i hope, i hope that's the case. yeah, i mean, the bombing of lebanon in the aftermath of the cease fire and the continuing and destruction of the west bank, of course, is going to hand in hand with that you gave the quotes to the private contract is, i suppose, illuminating the fact that the constitution applies not to private entities in your country, but of course facebook, google, they know up there actually government contract is and there huge amount of money. and then basically solve the, it's a government firms. one might even say you, have you noticed any lab diminution of, uh, censorship for liberty report. i know your own rumble, like we are of the supposedly trump signed to the executive order. guaranteeing the freedom of speech. i said, i don't know why you have to do that if you have a constitution anyway, but yeah. have you noticed any difference?

because presumably, the wrongful liberty report hasn't done well from google, facebook, twitter, before a little must yeah, i mean we, i think we're banned from facebook for a while and a few things like that. i mean, one of the reasons we went around, but while they called us up and said, hey we, we see you having some trouble with youtube. we bought a free speech platform. when did you come up to, to us and we didn't, we were very happy. we've never had a single problem with rumble, and we were worried about youtube. you put a lot of that guy, you know, as well. you put so much effort into a show and, and they get the rug it's pulled out from under you. so i think, you know, i, i think things are certainly better because it's a, it's been recognize now that the tide is turned in our favor. the censorship is not, is not good, but these companies, you're right. i mean, they are, they are not private companies. if they're colluding behind the scenes with governments, you know, to silence american citizens. and there's a misconception that um, the 1st amendment is some have great, the government grants you the right to free speech in the 1st and then that's not the case. the 1st and then

a recognizes the natural state of man given to us by our creator, that we have the right to do these things. and it's not a government that grants it. and so there's a lot of reckoning. americans are confused. well, foreigners shouldn't come over here and have the right to free speech, but you're missing the whole point of it. the whole point is recognizing the state of nature. we should have these, we should have these rights. we should be, we should be an example to the rest of the world. then you'll mcadams bag. you. thank you. that's it for the show. will be back with the brand new episodes on site they have until then. keep in touch my last social media of until it sends a new country and have to our channel going on. they're going to be hon dot com to watch new and old episodes of going underground season having the

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