[000:00:00;00] the the hello and welcome to cross software. all things are considered. i'm peter level, better late than never trump secretary of state, marco rubio admits america's unipolar moment. his past, viewers over this program understood this long ago. how well this admission make comes foreign policy different. will diplomacy make a comeback? the press ok, incomes foreign policy. i'm joined by my guess, daniel as our in new york. he's a journalist and author a 3 books on the us constitution in nashville,

we have ryan christian. he is founder and editor of the last american vagabond, as well as co founder of the independent media alliance. and in brisbane we crossed to what we could poll. he's an adjunct professor at queensland university and technology and senior fellow at the ty, hey, institute, or a gentleman cross talk role is in effect, that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate a daniel, um, so much to talk about here. i was leading, obviously, in my introduction, i'm going to quote marco rubio right now. it's not normal for the world to have a unipolar power. remarkable coming from like a secretary of state. and then on the hills of this, we have the or which seems to be the imminent destruction of the us. a i d, at least in his current or is former incarnation. we don't know where it's going to go from here. the point is my friend us so much is happening. i think they're related. take it from here. daniel. yeah, that's, i mean, i think what we're seeing is a global crash of,

of neo liberalism. and it reminds me of the crash of communism in 1989 to 91. i think the water is going to a major phase change. uh the uh the, the rules of the last 35 years or so. i have 4 on the park and were entered, entering into a new era. and that era is based on multi polarity, intense international competition. uh, the, uh, the destruction of old alliances, like, you know, nato was going to way of the warsaw pact. um so uh it's a really a dramatic change that we're either was passing through. ryan, is this all a good thing? go ahead. i'd like to start with pointing out that i think in general, the destruction of us a id is obviously a positive thing. it ultimately that is what happens to it because i think it's one of the things that is being debated, which is frustrating for a lot of us that have followed along with what has been doing is that there's some ultimate positive net positive outcome to what it does i disagree with that?

i think it's the regime change engine with some things that are done positive around it, ultimately as a cover i would argue, but i think what i'm worried about here is that the process i think is important. and i think the way this is going is indicating to me that this is more about framing it as a positive change in order to role in what i worry is, is a worse outcome. and, but like we were kind of saying off here before i, it's a win nonetheless, to see this begin to go that step. but i think what i'm seeing a lot across the trump of ministration right now is taking things that we've always wanted to go away or and, and framing it as a positive destruction. but really already rolling in something that i see is much worse. sort of like the digital end of this, the cdc direction, walmart, private end of that. but that's what i see happening here with mosque and the rest of this the way it's going or marco rubio taking control or merging of what the state department would or wouldn't already really was. it just seems more of a shell game to me, but i'm going to wait and see how it plays out. but i think if it was going to be done right, it should've been done in a way that was more transparent and not fully focused on the left has been doing this the entire entire time. that's it. so that's just just honest. yeah. i,

i agree with you because it's settling domestic political scores are also very much so because this is woodside shown as being the machinations of the democratic party . they've said this very openly, so you're absolutely right. but where we go, i kind of got drawing upon with daniel had to say with is really interesting is that, you know, when the, with the end of the cold war, the end of the soviet union, the end of the warsaw pact we had, you know, kind of a i was gonna say ideological boy, but we actually had a, a preponderance of neo liberalism around the world. i agree with daniel, 100 percent and we're not on the same frequency when it comes to many, many politics here. but it's, it's good to see that go, it's a low will be less of an ideological world. that's a plus. but is it going back to just great power, a rivalry which has its pluses and minuses to go ahead and brisbane. a yellow gets good today with you paid around, especially after the uh,

the last time we try to disconnect it. so i agreeing to you and have any uh, look, i think that, um, there's no doubt that the 35 year period of the liberalism is coming to an end. and in fact, full nice people, they've been watching these things closely for a number of years. it ended a little while ago. it's just taking the united states leadership, i guess. so the political legal sections of the political like come to terms of that reality. but i think it also spells the end of a 500, the period of liberal wisdom liberal, quite a new government on. so we've got 2 endings in a science. one is a short time ending, which is a 35 year period of a particularly intense type of west and the liberalism. but we're also, i think, fundamental changes in the way that the global economic system in logan eyes. and as a result of that, the ways in which countries interact with each other. so it is a moments as purity that we're living through. and um, you know, that's kind of reboot arrived for quite some time because there's

a whole bunch of vested interest. so you don't want to let go and um, and that will 5 tooth and i of course to hang onto what they've had. and um, and the struggle in a sense is going to continue for a little while get before the da simple, yes, feed there. cuz no one likes to give up power in this, the new neo liberalism is a powerful if not toxic force, it will not give up easily as well. but daniel, i mean, you know, i mentioned great power politics. okay. for me they'll be a relief not to hear a secretary of state or we're only doing this for democracy around the world and i think we're all tired of all of that. okay. um. but then um, the other side of the ledger is a drum says he's going to take a greenland in panama. okay. i mean, not for democratic reasons either for just pure national se now national interest here. i mean, that's the flip side of it, isn't it daniel? a yeah, i mean the, the, the us, you know, polarity is not unprecedented. we saw a british

u unit polarity for 99 year period from the 1815 to 1914 van that collapsed. and we all know what happened next. a trump. ready is, you know, these, he's like, he sees himself as a copper and he's picking fights with the, with minor parties that he certainly can win. i mean, it's no big deal for the us to steam roll over canada, or mexico or, or panama or denmark for that matter. but the point is that the, the old pieces for when you're parked in a very dramatic fashion and no one knows how it. ready shape shape shake out. so no one knows what, right? china is reaction will be no one quite knows what russia's reaction well, you know, ryan, it, they, they, they, one of the, the,

the outcomes of all of this is that the alliance system that we've been in place. it's been in place since the 2nd world war will start to unravel. i think certainly it's already been mentioned that nato may find a, it's fate, is that it doesn't view assessment, need nato, the way it did before, because it's not an ideological conflict according to at least. so someone like marco rubio, go ahead, right? yeah, i mean, i think it's worth considering this, there's might be more global collaboration on, on certain directions that we see then then the not even a lot of these different things like i, i definitely agree with what, what, what both of the panels are saying in the context of what seems to be changing, but again, i would like to argue that i really worry about how that is. you know, whether it's a change is that even a positive change when you're really just seeing 2 different establishment powers a fight over who controls our lives. you know that that's what i kinda see happening. but i worry that there's more collaboration on the like during the like the cobra 19 era which is not really done. we saw a lot of global collaboration and things that really concerned a lot of people that were going the direction of more of

a world power. and i worry that that might be in a ways what some of these are going in the direction of, even though it does seem to be more, you know, trump taking for his own interest or for the united states interest or the government. but if you look at it on a grander scale, like what we're looking at with canada, and i mean even the, even panama included or, or mexico, you're talking about something that's been discussed for a long time, north american union dynamic, you know, coming off that conversation of something like the european union, it's the same kind of idea. and i think this is going to a very clearly away from the idea of freedom and liberty. and i think that was the problem. is that because we're seeing things go away that we argue are obviously bad. that is tricking a lot of americans into feeling like we're going in a positive direction toward freedom. when i see all the directions, they're taking as dramatically the other direction, even if we're seeing positive things come down and again, we'll see what comes up underneath it. that's all i kind of see it right now, but i see these things as positive steps. but if they're simply rolling out like the fed goes away and it's simply a private stable, coined cvc, dynamic, and that's not a positive change. that's how i see it as yeah,

but more work i think also the end of the word sovereignty is really important here . and you know, pursuing a sovereignty policy. the like trump appears to be doing that. it also encourages other countries to do exactly the same thing. i mean, i'd be getting to thinking in this is early days, but i wonder if you know, the, the, the ideas about international law in cooperation of the 2nd half of the 20th century is going to be forgotten. we're going to go right back to the 19th century, go ahead. warwick. i was, i and i filled out all the way back to the 19th century, but done. but of course history channels on ron a little bit. i think one of the things that we are saying and is that, um, it is, is not necessarily a complete return to the right path. politics. yeah. bought a recognition by the united states that the, that the found the items of its global hegemony and its global power. and i along the way. and therefore it's going to have to recalibrate its position, at least in the short term. whether that is

a short term recalibration that leads to a long term system of change. whether it's really an attempt to re group is another question altogether. the recognition, i think that the debacle, the new crime is trying to come out to a strategic phase for the west $95.00 and of course united states. this is the predominant finance here in provider of weapons into the crime. the mess that is in the middle east at the moment, and of course the, the diminution of american primacy and asia has old driven. i think i very realist, trumpet ministration. yes, i'm already, we've worked before we go to the break. let me just ask you a quick question here, and because you know, we bad need about the term had gemini, but you know, privacy is not the same thing. crumpling. trump, once primacy is, administration, is apparently not going to stripe or the gemini. there 2 different things real quick before we go to the break. yeah. look, i think he's,

he's looking to looks to use some of the strategy and colloquialisms he's going to matthew's territory. yeah. i'm like adult, the territory and um, and that's the 1st thing that he's going to do. and clearly he's doing that model. read of that is that in part it's, i test the recognition of the, of the faith, of, of the united states as a global head. your mom that you wrap these i by. and that guys with the demise of the liberalism and the reassertion of american preponderance cybert's and okay, you're probably going to end up this part of the program on pondering some of the discuss it in the 2nd half you gentlemen, i'm going to jump in. we're going to go to a short break, and after that your break, we'll continue our discussion on transform policy, stay without the

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next time and see if it doesn't figured? definitely interesting. so with the concept ok, even though is the new, much sort of deal and keeps going to california each goes up developing bio, chemical weapons inside. you guys got to watch some news new. i'm assuming should you know which one she's looking to use the white glove service, the customer, our physical bodies because of the signature. welcome back. across stock were all things are considered on peter level to remind you we're discussing trump's new foreign policy, the the

. okay, let's go back to daniel and new york and i'm talking to the title of this program is tax americana. and the reason why i put that there is because it seems that you lied. what we have said already in this program that there is going, there is a transition going on from pax americana, to tax america. trumpet has this amazing affinity for a tear of taxes. he's doesn't push sanction so much, but i mean that's still in the, in the, in the cards. it's kind of, i'm trying to uh, break bread here with ryan because you know, these tools here can be very much, you know, associated with the behavior of new liberalism. it may not be a spouse to say it might be ology, but it looks for the same outcomes, daniel as well. what else it gets as i disagree with that? i think that um that uh, that neo liberalism, uh, str. ready for a new world order under us of gemini, and i think that trump is uh, is uh,

bringing in a new system based on national ecosystem. his, his, uh, his, his, um, tariffs. uh where is that a good? is that a good thing? national eagle. it is um, is that a good thing? no, it's not a good thing at all. it's a, it's a very bad things, beggars i, neighbor policies are precisely the same as the same type we saw in the early thirty's. i mean it's, it's, it's one thing of trump imposes tariffs, but of every other country imposes terrorist and retaliation. then world trade goes to 0 very, very fast. uh, and, and with that comes, uh, a serious economic uh, contraction. so uh, so trump is, you know, he's, he's bringing in a new order and questionable a, but that's not a good new order. well, um, okay, um, i can absolutely see where you're coming from here. but brian, as we're speaking right now, um, uh columbia, panama, mexico,

and canada, who are taking the ne, is trump on to something as well. i mean, obviously if we're just talking about whether or not he wins in his political dynamic, then he's, then he's gaining. but ultimately, this is of, i think, a negative thing, whether we're talking about the way the world sees the united states policy or, but whether we're just for whether the united states is in any way what he pretends to be to the world. right? i mean, it's, it's just as imperialism naked, imperialism. the way of carrying this out. what to do. parents are not, it's, it's belligerent in my opinion. and again, go back to the point that i think this is about like like he was, it's interesting you, you talked about like the old, like dynamic, a new world order, new liberalism. but you know, in comparison to what he's doing today. but i, i frankly think it's just called the merging of all this stuff. it's, i, this is going in that direction of a global tower. but not, i mean, it's hard to see it when you think through, through trump, only as this nationalistic kind of, you know, america 1st, but that's not really what their policies are. when you look at a broader dynamic look at the what that mean. i don't see much deviation between bite in terms of policy when it comes to foreign policy for ukraine for is real.

and i think quite frankly, we're seeing a lot kind of just break down in that very basically us government, throwing all of its agendas out for the interest of other foreign policy agenda is for israel, for example. and so if we're talking about the parents, we're talking about the new canada mixed with them and they were watching things implode, things that have destroyed previous bipartisan or just, you know, any both democrat and republican administration from before that we're trying to accomplish. or just the basic idea of the rules based order that is completely collapse because of their foreign policy. that's not in america's interest, even right now what trump is doing, you can argue there's interest and resources and an x, y, and z. but as you were pointing out, the parents are only going to begin to cause more international problems for both countries, even though you see somebody getting to take the knee as you put it. i think it's only gonna spin out further when other countries react. and so i see in the negative and all of this other than imperialism for john. yeah, i mean, why don't we get me, you in, we could really, we can figure out this entire conversation in the sense that trump wants to have

a fortress western hemisphere. i mean it was being clued, so apparently a greenland here. it looks like, you know, he, he wants a power block. okay. and ryan is absolutely right. i mean, as we speak right now, um these rarely prime minister is visiting the united states will see it, marco rubio is uh, approach to the world. do you know when he was on macon kelly? um, what's going on with you with a id that may all be a side show the in, in new cycle time, considering the vested interest that the binding ministration and apparently will find out the trumpet administration has with the genocide going on and gaza. a look . i don't think that there is a tiger and strategy at this point in time. i think that there is a kind of here and a saw switch, i guess some others have described here is a form of nationalism or an actual egoism. but what we're saying is

a whole bunch of, of initiatives or actions that um, you know, i say to satisfy particular constituencies and also say to create particular emotional responses from the political bice and, but that's largely about heated the volume. and so we don't have that kind of here in strategy in relation to you crime promises of solving that in 24 hours. not withstanding the fact that it was a bully campaign hod hopefully have amounted to nothing at this point in time. and i'm not convinced that there is actually a meaningful strategy at all to bring that more to a meaningful close. that's certainly nice strategy and the license stabilizing the middle east and on and believes that there is a strategy in the license or the asian pacific ava. old areas of alignment is a consolidation loan, which is around the back yard, so to speak. and an assertion of regional, sorry, of the neighbors. so the quite clearly not in the same league, you know, it's

a pretty easy thing to do as a terrace. the reality is, is that you're not upsides my own, the wheels, the, the, the big stick to that once the, in i and, and that's mainly because the united states contributes not more than 15 percent of global. we'll trade today, which is the, i'm from 20 percent, and the 60 is a guy. frankly, it is just less important, relatively speaking and sort of has less impact in terms of with policies. brooks nations, i able to adjust, should they have a 100 percent higher if imposed on them with the and all of this to my 2 and a half to 3 is to fully comp insights. so the loss of the us market, the us in the main tom will type of training for 5 and 10 years and possibly even longer to adjust to a loss of the industrial machinery, the robotics, and not to mention the role materials that comes from the rest of the world, you know, when you've been living on devices of,

via use for the last 3540 years. and you come to the realization that at some point, a really economy named real things. it's a bit of a shopping realization of the world doesn't need the american i are using the why it wants the that's just the reality, daniel, this new approach. and i think all of us would agree it's, it's in its formative stage right now, or maybe it's just a one off. they wanted to go after this agency. and ned could follow, which would be great in my opinion. but daniel, they've been given the trajectory at least this. this is trumps approach. making the world more or less safe. oh, it's making us far less safe. i mean, 1st of all, number one, i mean you have to where you talk about things like this. you use phrases like trumps to approach. trump is a highly erratic individual. yeah, i think is a really a med tech. uh there's

a certain kind of logical in what he's doing. but he has not thought this out fully . and he's going to get in big trouble very, very soon. the just stabilizing effects are profound. i mean, i think the, you know, the, the, the, the weakening of nato will have from magic fx threw out the rage and cons. so it might actually feed the war up and ukraine rather than, than tapping it down. this is a and that of course, the middle east. i mean, i mean that yahoo is now trumps both of them. how he is the, he is the trump westborough. and so, so essentially he's running the entire middle east as a proxy for the us and that is pretty extraordinary. and that does not. ready a more peaceful region, obviously corrupt. i'd like to point out though that i feel good, but go ahead, jump in. i'd like to point out that i think that it's, it's worth considering and it's,

i'm of the opinion that it's possibly the other way around. right. the idea that we're watching all of these things that as you pointed out are, are not. and i mean, you can say for instance, greenland and minerals to me are either resources, there's a renter's for america that might be positive for short term gain or maybe long term gain. but ultimately it's, i think like i said, in that positive and a lot of different reasons that are imploding, a lot of things for a long term american interest. and i think that that benefits is real and a lot of ways and that's more abstract. i think for some people, unless you understand some long term policy that they will just to be frank that, that people like ben baron smoked rich. and some of the more radical people are openly talking about which of these tables ation of 4 countries. weaponized migration. these, these are with statements by then just so that's clear, but so thinking about how these things like people with nato. i think you could argue that these things benefit what they're trying to accomplish in the world. let's not forget that even the promises of the ending funding for ukraine or israel for that matter, both have been broken even recently, despite the pause, even though they what is really huge of continue trump, then through poland for through israel sent weapons back to you create that just

happen. so it just seems to be even challenging as on promises to his base. i the, i see all of this is in the interest of at least 4 and countries as opposed to united states. but i would say israel, i think that's worth considering a war waco of last 40 seconds. go to you that you're given what we've heard from daniel and ryan, is there a coherent strategy here? go ahead. 35 seconds. there's no kind of do a strategy. it's um, it's a series of emotionally driven reactions to changes in the world that the trump is coming to grips with. it is a function of a deep state of dislikes. sometimes i see from a country and a man or he's experienced a world that was dramatically different and where the united states side of the pinnacle, that's my level of the k. it, it's, it's quite fascinating the, the, the, the new administration is inherently in a world very, very different than the 1st administration of trump. it's really quite fascinating . and i guess we'll all agree, we'll see where it all goes. it's,

it's very difficult to keep track of what's going on here. i want to thank my, i guess in a nashville new york and in brisbane. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at r t c. and next time, remember across platforms, the, the today we're going to involved on a real, i'll finish up in the south west, the republic i've come up to, you know, both colorado. this allows us to be just in the caucasus popular among nate syllabus, voice, absolutely breathtaking views. but i also loved a gentleman, joke his voice, extreme sports. so let's get stuck in the the

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