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i am here to the moon, but he had to bend the state and we continue our conversations about different parts of the continent of africa. today we want to have a conversation about c o, p, a on somali, and i say so my, the family because it is important to understand this thing or the concretely now cause so mind, yes, somebody or somebody was color nies by 2 countries. they turned in concord, the lower part of the country headquarters in mogadishu, on the british coal cut the up upside bordering the golf provides. and then was called the british, somebody lined a this time of independence. so my land, actually, the gained independence, fussed on the 26th of june, 1900 on 6th street. and after the gained independence,

though i immediately recognized by such is 6 countries on the 1st day of july, 1900. on 60, so malia mogadishu to gain the independence on the country as much as one us. so my the, to create affiliate ations. and at the time they was a country that believe the somalia was much larger. they believe if you look at the flag, the fives does it presenting each of the areas which they think should be. so my, the 3 pages you would need to include notes on fargo, kenya, through the fluid. oh, good. then you know the up the, and of course somebody land on so my dates of that is the country code. so my the, but we also know the so my, the different programs over the years. and this calling me nathan,

in the 1900 on 7th, is getting the presidency of see a body shooting. see i to body. really remember that the somalis actually been in vain. oh, good. then they all get then war, which was same was under that time during the day, but as you old men used to hate him, a young of hands to losey, had been overthrown. that was continued on, the somalis was threatening, it's still still, you know, various that's the way until they feel peer inside to bring the cubans. it is the cuban boots on the ground that led to the success of this. it still pins against somebody after that, somebody had been generated into cline warfare, culminating in the defy josha, the body. and people like i did the demise. and what happened is the client

isms thought the dividing the country. and literally the war load and started to imagine with are individuals running jubal on portland and in 1900 on 91, they'll was a civil war does, may cut it that eyes it otherwise. and after that civil will. so my legal and declare i had high independence, which independence has not been recognized by any country. but if you travel to how to gaze, you will find that there is a functioning government complete with an army, complete with the with the currency. and indeed, they have held this for elections and they are functioning as a country. but then we'll get this show administration. it does not accept that these are an independent country. and for that reason, they do not accept that any country should negotiate directly with the government or the administration in id. so this is what has brought the current

conflict between s p a on the so my, the, you remember that the deal for ya, self had a problem, been non lo look in the sense that when the time the ends left and they, they, it is free i was part of it. yeah, it was good. they had the 4 of the, the 4th which was in there is for. yeah. but after the administration came into being in 1984, when men less than that, we with the p a less took over and remove the day. but as you, it is very gained independence and it's still became alonzo. and as we talk now, it's still the use of the part of it you would take on prime minister. i'd be a said that if you'll see a given the size and population cannot in the nature of things continued to belong locked. and that is why the, in the, in to an agreement with the so my,

the line so that they can have access to the gulf of adam. and also use for the size of the part of barbara. and what are then happened, of course, is, is that the additional government has said that cannot be, you do not have the right to enter into negotiations with somebody land because somebody land is not a silver in state, been recognized by international community. and if you want to do in a city, you must negotiate with the government in will the district of cos for a long time when there was no stable administration in mogadishu, those issues didn't authorize. but now there is on a 10 to reclaim last 33, and that is what brings into play the current conflict. on the attempt of negotiation, there was an attempt initially to have you go ahead and negotiate. you've got into a governmental authority of the development,

which is in the onregional to negotiate the issue. but that did not go very fast. another thing that happened in order to ensure that the temperatures were lowered, village boutique, the government said, we are prepared to give you a feel of feelings access to the sea. but of course they feel pens want. i'm not really meant that he's going to give them direct access. i didn't did if you're traveling and that's part of the there is no, i'm major road that is connecting. if you'll be on the part of barbara, which port is on the expansion on construction, you'd also note that this seal pins actually did tried to get access on the saw them, but through the opposite through the lumber port. but that is not doing very well. so what is this? think of negotiations, not the state of negotiations. if that's very little is operating on the ground. the costs of mistrust is very, it's off with the community has now said that's the best of nathan kenya and uganda to lead negotiations to bring if field and so might be

a together. but it's something that is not going to be easy. it is not going to be easy because another day as also and that into the, you know, the jeep sions, the defense of entered into the interview. not because the different terms uh saying that the construction of the ground, if the op and written also has done, which is meant to generate a 10000 megawatts of electricity, is interfering with the flow of denial, which is you defend zone. and i, i'm aware that the jeep sions of said that what we respect is the 1900 done printing not in a 1900 down 59 cruelties. and in the month of october, specifically on the 14th day of october, the pin, the pin, the full, or if african countries under denial, this and the sign, the nile framework agreement. but egypt and so done, i've refused to assign. and what's the difference uh say,

a saying that they now want to bring $10000.00 troops to somebody uh, to engage in activities with the philippines. think uh, threatening. and is something that is still being negotiated on the difference being told don't do that. and of course, another thing that has happened is that so my lia, in mogadishu of entered into entertainment with the administration of ducky through under prisons. it's a one to train on to patrol or the see show which is the economic zone. and of course, this is something that the so my, the line does not happen. we remember that they were gunned and troops. i've been in somalia under the auspices of the office and union kenya has also had the presence in the case of my you remember also that if so, my dear self has a problem with the eyes shut bad. and remember, they all got in wall and all those things are coming to play. now,

the question is, how we're going to resolve this problem? how are we going to ensure that this particular conflict between if you appear on somebody land is resolved and it is not going to be easy because to milan, which just went through on the election in the month of november, already appealing to the international community that they want to be recognized, and they are saying that we control over $33.00 and we are going through the timing and who it is that is going to occupy our spaces on which arguments we are going to enter into. and with the coming in to office later in the month of january, we have a new administration in the united states of america under donald trump. the assumption on the front of the, somebody, landers, is that if there was to gain recognition by such a country,

then there would be floods, gate of countries, which would recognize. and i'm aware that somebody line does i engage in very aggressive diplomacy for the purpose of re gaining that gaining a completion on the fact, the somali government in a more good issue. i've done 2 very interesting things when they applied on the i know, members of a subject compliment and being members of based on what kind of community they are now taking the position that these types of communities, countries which have quite a few lates. oh, so my line should not allowed them to operate. can yeah. is that such a country with the consulate? i think it's still p. i is the country with the consulate and the feel feelings on to others of trusting that they will elevate those 2 legs. the 2 embassy levels, and that is a heightening the tension in that region in

a very major way. one does my crystal ball tell me, my pistol tells me that the tensions are going to continue. it tells me that the attention of going to continue because within some model it's of the or sort tensions, but particularly with small areas of life in cuba lined on point the line was made . as i've also said that they are going to declare the own or economy. so the internal contradictions of such a nature that negotiating for, for peace, is not going to be easy on with the coming into the mix of the ducks on of the dimensions. on the joining by mogadishu, government or somebody government is thoughtful, going to community many play as a coming in to play on one ways to see what it is that is going to happen. but particularly with the model, the time of government that hasn't been entered into between if the appeal of

somebody that so i for see trouble in the future there. i see a situation where somebody land will remain id fucked up country which is not recognized. i see a somalia that he's going to try and continue to i get data and i see on this field p a which is going to insist that we are going to be in somebody land, particularly if your fans are going to do that in order to ensure that the jeep sions don't have any what's on the ground, and the part of that was knowing that they do that they all good then problem which was a sauce of a conflict is still alive and well knowing that they do that if they don't have a port then they are disabled and i'm told on this is subject to conformation that he did the feel feelings minded of using the fighters see, for purposes of building a viable navy. so these things happening at the time when africa is saying that we

have declared the 2 years of, of looking for face. and i hope and believe that the current stock comes tons is not withstanding. negotiations must continue. perhaps under the auspices over an applicant body. the african union, which in the nature of things, must begin to take on pace ro, headquartered as it is in august of about 50, of the tensions must be redeemed. and peace must break out. negotiated, unsustainable peace between as somebody. uh, honestly, yeah, thank you very much. uh, we continue our conversation then as we talk about different countries and different individuals and let us take a break and come back in

a short while so that the conversation may continue to pace the piano to me. but here, this slide, our kids show conservancy in my truck was gone. the in the republic of k, when is the 21st century was coming along, it was said that it would be offered because century and many issues were touched on. one of them was the c as providing opportunities for the development of africa's economy africa has the advantage of i've been 2 or 3 made. jo, what the buddies, if we leave.