the, the ions piano to move, but he had to bend the state and we continue our conversations about different parts of the continent of africa. today, we want to have a conversation about c, r p, a on somali. and i say so my, the family because it is important to understand this thing or the concretely now cause so mind, yes. so molly or somebody was color nies by 2 countries. they tanya and zip code card's the lower part of the country headquarters in mogadishu. on the british concord, the up upside bordering the golf provides and then what's called the british. so my the line at this time of independence. so my land, actually,

the gained independence, fussed on the 26th of june, 1900. on 6th, after the gained independence, though i immediately recognized by such as 6 countries on the 1st day of july, 1900 on 60. so malia will get this sure to gain the independence on the country as much as one us. so my the to create a fitted ations and at the time they was a country that believe the somalia was much larger. they believed if you look at the flag, they are fives, does present to each of the areas which they think should be. so my, the 3 pages you would need to include notes on fargo, kenya, really fluid. oh, good. then in this book the and of course somebody land on so mind yates of that is the country code. so mind the but we also know the,

somebody as different programs over the years. and this calling me nathan, in the 1900 on 7th, is getting the president c o c. i bought a shooting c at the body. we remember that the somalis actually didn't invade oh good, then they all good then wall, which was same as under time during the day. but as jim oldman used to hate him, a young officer, here's the law. so you had been over thrown that was continued on this, somebody's was threatening, as you'll see, a, you know, very it's, that's the way until they feel peer inside to bring the cubans. it is the cuban boots on the ground that led to the success of this. it still pins against somebody after that. so my, the be generated into klein, welfare can mean a thing in the defy joe said the body and paint for life. i did the demise

and what happened is that plant isms thought that dividing the country and literally the war load and started to imagine with individuals running jubal on point land and in 1900 on 91, they'll was a civil war. does me cut it that eyes it otherwise and after that civil war? so my loan declared high in defendants which independence has not been recognized by any country. but if you travel as to how to gaze, you will find that there is a functioning government complete with an army, complete with the with the current and see and in did, they have held this for elections and they are functioning as a country. but then we'll get this show administration does not accept that these are an independent country. and for that reason, they do not upset that any countries should negotiate directly with the government

or the administration in id. so this is what has brought the current conflict between s c o p a on the so my, the, you remember that the deal pay how self had a problem been non lo looked in the sense that when the time the ends left and they did it it's free, i was part of it. yeah, it was good. they had the part of the, the port which was in their history. yeah. but after the administration came in to being in 1984, when men less than that we with the 50 or less took over and remove the day. but as you, it's the, the gain the independence. and as you'll see a became alonzo. and as we talk now, if you want to use this part of it, you would take on prime minister. i'd be a said that if you'll see a given its size and population cannot in the nature of things continued to belong

locked. and that is why they have and that in to an agreement with somebody land so that they can have access to the golf of adam. and also use both sides of the part of barbara. and what uh then happened, of course, is, is that they will, the additional government has said that cannot be, you do not have the right to enter into negotiations with somebody land because somebody land is not a silver in state recognized by international community. and if you want to do in a city, you must negotiate with the government in will the district of cost for a long time, when there was no stable administration in mogadishu, those issues didn't authorize. but now there is on a time to reclaim last 33, and that is what brings into today the current concept on the attempt at the negotiation. there was an attempt initially to have you go ahead and negotiate.

you've got into a governmental authority of the development, which is in the onregional to negotiate the issue. but that did not go very fast. another thing that happened in order to ensure that the temperatures were lowered, village boutique, the government said, we are prepared to give you a feel of feelings access to the sea. but of course they feel pens want. i'm not really meant that he's going to give them direct access. i didn't did if you're traveling and that's part of the there is no a major road that is connecting. if you appear on the part of barbara, which port is on the expansion on construction, you'd also know that the fuel pins actually did try to get access on the saw them, but through the opposite through the lumber port. but that is not doing very well. so what is the state of negotiations? not the state of negotiations, is that very little is operating on the ground. the costs of mistrust is the east african community has now said, that's the basic nathan kenya and uganda,

to lead negotiations to bring it sealed. and so my idea together, but is something that is not going to be easy. it is not going to be easy because another day as also and that into the, you know, the jeep sions. the defense of entered into the, the not because the different terms uh saying that the construction of the ground is still being written, also done. which is meant to generate $10000.00 megawatts of electricity is interfering with the flow of denial, which is you defend zone. and i, i'm aware that the jeep sions of said that what we respect is the 1900 done printing 9. a 1959. create this and in the month of october, specifically on the 14th day of october, the printed print, the full, or if african countries under denial this and then sign the nile

framework agreement. but egypt understood, done. i've refused to assign, and what's the difference? say, a saying that they now want to bring $10000.00 troops to somebody uh, to engage in activities with the feel piano. think uh, threatening. and is something that is still being negotiated on the different i've been told don't do that. and of course another thing that as up and is that still my lia will that issue of entered into entertainment with the administration of ducky through under, for instance. it's a one to train on to patrol or the see show, which is the economic zone. and of course, this is something that the somebody long does not happy with. remember that they were gunned and troops. i've been in somalia, under the auspices of the office and union kenya has also had a presence in the case of my you remember also that if somebody self has

a problem with the eyes shut bad, and remember they all got in wall and all those things are coming to play now, the question is, how we're going to resolve this problem? how we're going to ensure that this particular conflict between if the appear on somebody land is resolved. and it is not going to be easy because to milan, which just went through an election in the month of november, already appealing to the international community that they want to be recognized. and they are saying that we control noah $33.00 and we are going to determine who it is that is going to occupy our spaces on which a government for you are going to enter into and with the coming in to office later in the month of january, with a new administration in the united states of america under donald trump. the

assumption on the front of the somebody, landers, is that if there was to gain recognition by such a country, then there would be floods, gate of countries, which would recognize. and i'm aware that somebody line does i engage in very aggressive diplomacy for the purpose of the gaining is that gaining a completion on the fact, the somali government in mogadishu has done 2 very interesting things when they applied on the i know, members of a subject complement and being members of based off of the community the on out taking the position that these topic and communities countries which have quite a few lates. oh so my line should not allowed them to operate. can yeah. is that such a country that going to be late? i think it's still p, i is the country with the consulate and the feel feelings on to others of

threatening that they will elevate those going to need to empathy levels. and that is a heightening the tension in that region in a very major way. one does my crystal ball tell me, my pistol ball tells me that the tensions are going to continue. it tells me that the attention of going to contain, you know, because within, so my, yeah, it's of the or so tensions, but particularly with small areas of life in cuba, land on point the line was made as i've also said that they are going to declare the own or to me. so they've done no contradictions of such a nature that negotiating for, for peace, is not going to be on with the coming into the mix of the ducks and of the dimensions on the joining by will good issue. government or somebody. government is thoughtful, going to community many play as a coming in to play on one way to see what it is that is going to happen. but

particularly with the model, the time of government that hasn't been entered into between if you'll p uh somebody that so i for see trouble in the future there. i see a situation where somebody land will remain at the fuck the country, which is not recognized. i see a somalia that he's going to try and continue to i get data and i see on this c p a, which is going to insist that we are going to be in somebody land, particularly if your fans are going to do that in order to ensure that the jeep sions don't have any boots on the ground in the part of the was knowing as they do that they all good then problem which was a sauce of a conflict is still alive and well knowing that they do that if they don't have a port then they are disabled and i'm told on this is subject to conformation that in did they feel feelings minded of using that part of the sea for purposes of

building a viable navy. so these things happening at the time when africa is saying that we are glad they talk to you as of, of looking for face. and i hope on he believes that the current stock comes tons, there's not withstanding negotiations must continue, perhaps under the auspices of our an applicant body, the african union, which in the nature of things must begin to take on pay, throw, headquartered as it is in august stop by if the tensions must be redeemed, and peace must break out. negotiated on sustainable peace between somebody. uh, honestly. okay, thank you very much. uh, we continue our conversations and as we talk about different countries and

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