subject to others, as well as to international human rights organizations that claim to care about the fate of humanity. it'll be support us, the steadfast people who strive to return to their land. all our demands are simple to return home and rebuild it to feel safe from the cruel enemy is real located on our border system. i mean, it was one of 100 the villages florida, and we're giving these white people involved in the southern level. and it's residents are in the process of rebuilding what the scholars of will. what we're laying for a lifetime for now is while continues to occupy lebanese land, but they've been driven out by local to remain defiant against one of the world's most powerful military policies and speak with this is steve. so we need fidelity around the southern lebanon. why stay with arch international for all the latest from around the world? thanks for watching. by now the

i am here to to move, but he had to bend the state and we continue our conversations about different parts of the continent of africa. today we want to have a conversation about c o, p, a on somali, and i say so my, the family because it is important to understand this thing or the concretely now cause so mind, yes. so molly, or somebody was color nies by 2 countries. they signed in concord, the lower part of the country headquarters in mogadishu, on the british concord, the up upside bordering the golf, providing that then was called the british,

somebody lined at this time of independence. so my land actually gained independence. fussed on the 26th of june, 1900 on 6 picked out after the gained independence, though i immediately recognized by such as 6 countries on the 1st day of july, 1900 on 60 so malia will get this show to gain the independence on the country as much as one us, so my the, to create affiliate ations. and at the time they was a country that believe the somalia was much larger. they believed if you look at the flag, they are fives. does it presenting each of the areas which they think should be? so my, the 3 pages you would need to include notes on fargo, kenya,

through the food. oh, good. then in this book the, and of course somebody land on. so mind yates of that is the country code. so my idea, but we also know that somebody has different problems over the years. and this calling me late and in the 1900 on seventy's during the presidency of see a body shooting. see i to body, we remember that the somalis actually didn't invade oh good, then they all good then wall, which was same as under that time getting the bigger issue of them and used to hate him a young of a head and so on. so you had been overthrown. that was continued on the somalis was reckoning, it's still still, you know, very it's, that's the way until they feel peer inside to bring the cubans. it is the cuban boots on the ground that led to the success of this. it still pins against somebody

after that. so my, the be generated into klein warfare kind of mean a thing in the defy chose the body and paint for life. i did the demise. and what happened is the klein isms thought the dividing the country and literally the war load started. imagine with individuals running jubal on portland and in 1900 on 91, they'll was a civil war. how does may cut it that eyes it otherwise? and after that civil war, so my land declared had high in defendants which independence has not been recognized by any country. but if you travel as to how to gaze, you will find that there is a functioning government complete with an army complete with the, with the currency. and indeed they have held this for elections and they are functioning as the country. but then we'll get this show administration. it does

not accept that these an independent country. and for that reason, they do not upset that any country should negotiate directly with the government or the administration in how to base. this is what has brought the current conflict between f c o p a on the so my, the, you remember that the deal pay uh, self had a problem. been non lo looked in the sense that when the time the ends left and the, the industry, i was popular with deal. yeah. it was good. they had the port of the, the port which was the negative for. yeah. but after the administration came into being in 1984, when men less than that, we with the tip, the less took over and remove the dividends. you electricity gain independence and it's still became alonzo. and as we talk now, if you use this part of it,

you would say, and prime minister, i'd be a said that if you'll see a given it size, unpopular sion cannot in the nature of things continued to belong locked. and that is why the of, in the, in to on agreement with the so my, the line so that they can have access to the golf of adam. and also use for the size of the part of barbara. and what are then happened, of course it is, is that the additional government has said that cannot be. you do not have the right to enter into negotiations with somebody land because somebody not is not a silver in state recognized by international community. and if you want to do in a city, you must negotiate with the government in mogadishu. of course, for a long time when there was no stable administration in mogadishu, those issues did not the rise. but now there is enough time to reclaim last 33,

and that is what brings into today the current concept. on the attempt at negotiation, there was an attempt initially to have a gun negotiate. you've got the inter governmental authority of the development, which is in the onregional to negotiate the issue, but that did not go very fast. another thing that happened in order to ensure that the temperatures were lowered, village boutique government said we are prepared to give you a feel, feelings access to the se, but of costs the philippines want on a drink meant that he's going to give them direct access on didn't did if you're traveling and that's part of the, there is no a major road that is connecting. if you'll see on the point of barbara, which port is on the expansion of the construction. you also know that the steel pins actually did try to get access on the saw them, but through the opposite through the number port. but that is not doing very well. so what is the state of negotiations?

not the state of negotiations is that very little is operating on the ground. the costs of mistrust is the east african community has now said that the, designating canyon uganda to lead negotiations to bring it's still on the so my, the together. but it's something that is not going to be easy. it is not going to be easy because another day, as also entered into the arena, the jeep sions, the defense of entered into the interview. not because the defense uh saying that the construction of the ground, if you will be under enough of them, which is meant to generate a $10000.00 megawatts of electricity, is interfering with the flow of denial, which is you could defend zone. and i, i'm aware that the jeep sions of said, that worked really stuck in the 1900 on printing not and a 1959 creatives. and in the month of october, specifically on the 14th day of october, the pin, the pin, the full,

or if i click on countries under denial bisson, the sign denial of framework agreement. but egypt and so done, i've refused to assign. and what's the difference uh say, a saying that they now want to bring $10000.00 troops to somebody uh, to engage in activities with the therapy and think, uh, threatening. and is something that is still being negotiated on the difference being told don't do that. and of course another thing that as often is that so my lia will that issue of entered into entertainment with the administration of ducky through under prisons. it will one to train onto patrol or the see show which is the economic zone. and of course, this is something that the so my line does not happen. we remember that they were

gunned and troops. i've been in somalia under the auspices of the office on union. can you, as also had the presence introduced to my you remember also that if somebody self has a problem with the eyes shut bad, and remember the old got in wall and all those things are coming to play. now, the question is, how we're going to resolve this problem? how are we going to ensure that this particular conflict between if you'll pa, on somebody land is resolved on it is not going to be easy because somebody land which just went through an election in the month of november, already appealing to the international community that they want to be recognized and they are saying that we control over $33.00 and we are going through the timing . it's who it is that is going to occupy our spaces on which arguments we are going to enter into and with the coming in to office later in the month of january, with

a new administration in the united states of america under donald trump. the assumption on the front of the, somebody, landers, is that if there was to gain recognition by such a country, then there would be floods a gate of countries which would recognize. and i'm aware that somebody line does i engage in very aggressive diplomacy for the purpose of regaining that gaining recognition on the fact this somali government in and we'll get the issue as done to very interesting things. one, they applied on the, i know members of the subsequent community and being members of based off of the community the and out taking the position that based off of the community of countries which have quite a few lates. also my, the line should not allow them to operate can yeah. is that such

a country with the consulate? i think it's still p. i is the country with the consulate and they feel feelings and are those of trusting that they will elevate those, going to see legs to embassy levels. and that is a heightening the tension in that region. in a very major way. one does my across the board tell me, my crystal ball tells me that the tensions are going to continue. it tells me that the attention of going to continue because we've been so model. yeah, it's of the or sort tensions, but particularly with small areas of life in cuba lined on one of the line was me does. i've also said that they are going to declare the own autonomy. so they in don, open for evictions of such a nature that negotiating for, for peace is not going to be on with the coming into the mix of the docks and of the dimensions on the joining by will good issue government or somebody government

your stuff for going to community many play as a coming in to play and one ways to see what it is that is going to happen. but particularly with the model, the time of government that hasn't been entered into between if you appear on somebody that so i for see trouble in the future there. i see a situation where somebody land will remain a default to country which is not recognized. i see a somalia that he's going to try and continue to i get paid and i see on this c p a, which is going to insist that we are going to be in somebody land, particularly if your friends are going to do that in order to ensure that the jeep sions don't have any boots on the ground in the part of the was knowing that they do that. they all got in problem, which was a sauce of a conflict is still alive and well knowing that they do that if they don't have

a port, then they are disabled and i'm told, and this is subject to conformation that he did the field young's minded of using that fighter see, for purposes of building a viable navy. so this things happening at the time when africa is saying that we have declared the 2 years of, of looking for peace. and i hope and believe that the current stock comes time says notwithstanding negotiations must continue. perhaps, under the auspices of our an applicant body, the african union, which in the nature of things, must begin to take on pay, throw, headquartered as it is in august sub by the fuel. the tensions must be redeemed, and peace must breakout negotiated on sustainable peace between

as somebody. uh, honestly, yeah, thank you very much. uh, we continue our conversations and as we talk about different countries and different individuals, let us take a break and come back in a short while. so the conversation may continue. pace the, [000:00:00;00] the piano to me, but here the slider, kids show conservancy in my truck was gone. the in the republic of k,