the, the hello and welcome to cross ok. we're all things are considered. i'm theater. live out. trump promise the shock the system. any is he has declared war against the us government threatened friends info, a like with a tear of war. and now is personally decided to reorder the middle east palestinians and guys have faced more force displacement and ethnic cleansing the

cross. i think guys, i'm joined by my guess, ramsey my route in seattle. he is a palestinian author and journalist in dubai. we have, i've made a lean, he is an investigative emmy, nominated journalist and, and b route. we presently risk. he is a security and political affairs analyst. i drilled in cross lock rolls and in fact, that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate, i'm going to go to ramsey 1st because he got up early as for this program, much appreciated audience always appreciates when you are on the program ramsey, i really reflecting on what we heard on tuesday, which is world historic for any number of reasons here, but one kind of almost drug test and take away from drum claiming he will own guides essentially, i guess and next it, i mean the words were very nebulous and when pressed by a very feeble press, he would not answer. i want to talk about media reaction in a moment, but rather than using a real estate deal is a substitute for a political solution. how bad can you get to get this situation go ahead,

ramsey as well. this is very, very bad, but it's also has a context of this is not the 1st time that americans, especially on from the side, talk about the real estate, the 14 it is a we can move them in, in, in gaza. and it's not the 1st on such references as the review arrow, because is the mean doing it for 2 guys. that's one point. there's a long carlo. give me these that was doing the also of course the area just cautionary spoke a repeatedly about the real estate opportunities waiting for them at the goals are closed. but just to say these things after you actually join inside the extermination of the palestinian people, or someone like benjamin that any of these are the parameters you'd have to running from the law. and they'll come and you add that fuel to a fire that is beyond any other find that we ever seen in the middle east. it

really shows such as the responsible steed craft and it took completely away from any credibility from mike to gathered for himself, claiming that he is indeed the one who put the pressure on them. yeah, i'll just stop the war. well yeah, i'll quit. it's also very interesting is that, as we've all agreed, we've heard these phrases from his son in law. but now it's the state policy. this is the policy of the united states. it's not as a reference, you know, wouldn't be good if we did, they'll. now this is policy here and what it is and again to many people in the west, the want to admit it is that the united states is turning into the guarantor of a genocide in palestine. the most certainly, i mean i have to say i was certainly not shocked, but i did think i was hallucinating at one point watching donald trump say palestinians must not be on the ultimate. i had to watch it twice. i had to was to

be honest. and regardless of how many times you watch it, i mean admitting guy that has and i quote, been turned into hell while sitting next to the grinning devil who turned it into hell. and of course, he was only able to do so. and then yahoo, that is using american weapons and unrelenting diplomatic cover. so you know, a complete and total display of hedge, a monic hubris. and, and let's just take a quick step back. i mean, it's important to know that the 1st world leader, the new us president, welcome to the white house. just happens to be a work criminal with an arrest warrant have for him by the i c c. and so it does affect the question, why is the trunk perfectly happy that off work attends from federal funds yet continues to fund is really government. and i think the fact is, the us, we all know, i think can agree will not be occupying garza and donald trump and dirt questionnaire won't be building any resorts there. but in one sense i'm, i'm kind of glad there. i say to see trump announced these plans so. ready open me

so plainly instead of pretending to care about palestinians as many other us presidents have done that preceded him while simultaneously enabling their ethnic cleansing and genocide, which of course violates international law. but also pilots u. s. law. or well, you know, and also ramsey. it's very interesting is that, so this whole approach, 1st of all, all of us have been very critical, critical of the so called to state solution which we have heard for decades, which are just now the by western politicians. so now with crumbs a pronouncement, even though his administration's walking back a little bit, it's the overton window is open. it's widened. okay. is that, you know, they, the ethnic cleansing is, is us policy right now? and what it does is, this is an attempt by walking away from the so called to state solution. it is an attempt, and we've seen this before to erase policy palestinians as

a national identity. go ahead, ramsey. and this is the policy, the americans have sponsor from the day that you start to this new point in history . as the u. s. government and a u. s. administration of ashley champion and palestinian identity or palestinian sovereignty and all of that then no matter what is what has done or do they do, the americans will always maintain that position. but think about it this way. they are talking about, oh well, you notice just clean up the mess and this going to get the gardens out 1015 years because come back or maybe some of them doing this damage the initiative or this is the initiative and the power back in the hands of the americans, and this is what i feel like the fear that many, many of us, many pundits demands outside outside does, doesn't mind you are experiencing is, is, is, is unrealistic. because the fact is for 471 days pushed back.

and that's only, i guess it is what you need me to tell you, but it gives the worst of intelligence that gives american arguments against italian, german, french, and british course abuses to the is what you need to decide the entire western world of. so the both sides of the divide in world war 2, filed of gauze and the still fail. so what can mr. from the real estate mogul can do to change the dynamics that lost it for nearly 500 years, and garza emerged victorious despite all the rest of the price, ordinary gauze, paid for the victory. but the thing that much will, this is psychological because now everybody is paying attention to come back and give them the are ups the, and learn a good the you don't do this, this is crazy. do use would not use of not to carry on with such language and so on and so forth. put thing the power back in trumps. have the power is actually in the

hands of the palestinians and it has always been in the hands of holly. it's good to you and be rude to mean it being a question that has not been brought up about it least up front and center is this also gives a green light for netanyahu. and in his a government to continue their growing genocide in the west bank because it's the, it's dispersing displacing all palestinians, not just gaza, but all. and that is left on spoken here. go ahead and be root. as it does, it does encourage you rush to have your own the positive nothing. you know, i think that westbank in particular is an important issue. remember that? um uh, toms appointee. his choice for um bus that the history on is mike huckabee, uh, mark huckabee stance is on the west side well known and they very much on the line with smoke friction blended up here and uh, trump side by side or to the air when we'll also stephanie, so you have

a number of right wing figures within this administration who are very much in agreement with the smoke patient with ben copier and with use brand new ultra right . so based upon that, i think there was a real possibility that donald trump might extend his approach will give his blessing good for. i'd like to some kind of he's really and that are in the west bank. we heard him say that um, in about 4 weeks, is going to make his announcement about where the whether or not to and next the west bank or to announce that he supports his ready self warranty or the west bank . i am suspecting that um trump is going to give nothing, you know pretty much what he wants when it comes to palestine bought in exchange for that. i think that on the issue with the wrong, what i mean to say here was the trump has, we're hurting the statements. he's not going to be. he wants to deal with the wrong . so he might not know. i'm going to say what he wants in public story. it's

strange for nothing, you know, turning it down when it comes to where iran had on encouraging escalation with the wrong. or i think that off to the press conference off that the statements we heard during the nothing here who is visit it appears that might be the trump middle east policy. you know, i said it's really interesting. i mean again, because it's my job, i have to look at what media says, all media has to say and in western media, they would never one. so it's a question asked what, what, what, what happens when the palestinians say no, we're not interested in this deal, but question is never posed to western audiences ever. ok med, i know it's true and i, you know, i think that it's important when we, we talk about trump and, and his, his in the edict things he says, which are obviously meant to manipulate, not just the media, but create some chaos. you know, give some real and leverage to 9 yahoo and normalize some of the most extreme is parts of the zionist ideology. but i do want to say, you know,

let's not forget the biden. and the bite and administration was exploring this very same option of pushing the palestinians out, academically, cleansing them in late 2023. i kind of want to echo was he said, because i think, you know, the addiction regime of course, didn't tolerate. it, didn't accept it. but the language that by them used was you know, softer as it is often with democrats. he called it a humanitarian corridor. you know, there's all these euphemisms for pushing the palestinians into the sign. i desert. but to your point, peter, where was the sort of the moral conviction, an outrage that we've seen in display in the media, and then the halls of power and dc with cost and peach trump over after the cleansing. where was that? during the last 1516 months under bite, and when billions of dollars of weapons were being sent. when you know, now we know more than 70000 palestinians murdered almost 100000 tons of weapons. more than dressed in more than here. a shima. where was that? i mean, not to me, peter,

the real scandal here might be simply that trumpet. sing our right. whatever us present in before him has done endorsed and upheld just without the mask of pretense. right? when it comes to the question about where to the palestinian stand and all this, i mean, it is kind of appalling and really beyond shameful. it's seen how palestinians are not being raised only through genocide, an ethnic cleansing, but a race even in the equation of determining their fate. i don't know that point. i have to jump in here gentlemen, we have to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on gods and stay with our team. the the, the people ask of them, in

a way to the most conflict mandatory to you can use to, to provide you with a sense of security. should best do it yourself, but at some of the rules who don't really know what else to do with the physical if you're doing this was on the guy with the funding at the end of the shift. and if it's this thing that a little disappointed connecting to chapters because of them utility to solve the butcher. what the key, the to the, for the book you to a substitute a full before the school. shoot me, you could see you got the solution to continue with that. i don't need them to use for that part of the for the last thing that this i've seen. yeah. and yeah, it's a level, it's a bonus or something right here. you're more than a single actual to shoot machine info it use cuz i believe right for scalable body, no needy me. she and the hotel,

but visiting i make the welcome back across. ok, we're all things are considered. i'm peter all about your mind. you were discussing godsa the okay, let's go back to our guest ramsey and in seattle here. ok, midwest thing at the end of the 1st part of the program. i'll use my word, but the continuity that we see through weed ministrations. here. trump, is this a come is trump is an oddity um, uh and uh, who used to be who's turning into a historic figure, maybe not for the right reasons. and i tend to think that's true. but you know, he's using real estate as a cover. most other presidents, i humanitarian, it's of our democracy, all this other stuff that we've gotten so tired of here,

but the, the outcome is exactly the same. there is a continuity from biden to do to drum comes just more open about it. and he thinks he's actually doing humanity a favor by moving these people to like a motel 6 around the corner in a eminent domain style here. and. and that's a cover that's a cover for genocide and his and, and if he will, they move forward with his plan as well. whatever it is, how you got a formulated. it also essentially means the genocide continues a master digit. the stock has been taking business 194 to 8, in fact as early as 1953. if i remember correctly, it was when the americans were pushing for the so called roger plans. and that's the idea of pushing, you know, the palestinians out of gaza through the same 9. does the field because of and this to me as a garza refused to, to do it. and again, and i get 6 or 7 under the, the,

the, you know, in class. and again in the early 19 seventy's under the sharon class. and none of these bands have work. now that trump is trying to be clever about it and trying to give you some sort of a few minutes ago, you saw the end of the day. it makes no difference. it also makes no difference for palestinians who i'm and i have been in situations as been a city as being fired out or, or living under is a, the, a bombs. it doesn't matter to us whether these bones are being provided by a democratic administration or by the public and administration at the end of the legal or american bombs. and it's just the american sustained junior site. so this is the reality of it, of palestinians. i'm not buying into it, i for the social media, but it goes to be from gaza and most people are just making fun of the notion that i just created all these incredible economy the, the notion of, from trying to do what is what it has to be to do, of course, to be to 6 or $7.00 to $7.00. yes. if i can, just,

if i can just find something that rumsey mentioned there, i mean, for 76 years. as he says, israel's tried to forcibly displace palestinians. and even 16 months of genocide with complete diplomatic cover in gaza, they failed. and the reason they failed, just to really emphasize this from doesn't understand that this is what indigenous people do. yeah, they remain on the land because the land is not just where they happen to live. it's not a condo, it's who they are. and you know, when we see more than 70 percent of the victims of israel's genocide being women and children, that is by design, that is not an accident. that is to prevent further generations, best of what i need, which they're waging this war. and lastly, i just want to say as far as that it gets, trump can appear what we saw in the last few days. and this week is the white house press. secretary insist that the real evil per word isn't that us in israel turning

on gaza, turning it into an unbelievable wasteland. that genocide is not the evil but that surviving the genocide and insisting whether the palestinians themselves insist or others that they remain in their homeland. that somehow is the real evil. i mean, to green light, the bombs fund, the destruction, and then act shocked when the result looks like a post apocalyptic wasteland. i mean the words, the admissions. i mean that not so bright. to put it lightly. white house press secretary admitted that israel using us weapons, has made god's uninhabited. oh no, no, no. but they didn't. they didn't admitted. that's what that's what's really amazing . they, they, if you look at the rhetoric coming out of the press corps and the white house and trump and then yeah, so it sounds like a natural disaster hit the place. they never mention how it was turned into rubble . and the 1st light is the know what the world knows. the greed ali

it trump is repeatedly said that countries like jordan and egypt are on board the saudis. remarkably this, the saturday for and ministry at 4 o'clock in the morning that somebody was agitated, came out and said, now there must be a palestinian state. what is trump talking about? i mean, does he have that kind of leverage? i mean, both states said jordan and egypt, they're very fragile places. they're under america's thumb. ken ken term kit is way ali a symbol. i think that when from spoke these words, they weren't very carefully considered. hardly. even some of these pains weren't aware of what he was going to say. uh, so he didn't give much thought, i think, to the repercussions or to the impact of what he said on. but this is what trump blogs for the way you know. he promotes the mad man theory by not from unpredictable person. and i think he's enjoying of the attention which is being given to these statements regardless of whether or not the plan is going to be far

from or not. and enhancing the real question. i think egypt and jordan will be, will categorically rejected any such proposals because this for preston, they've already in existence. all these got been seen both these 2 countries set a ravia as well. i think you can a st. goodbye to any possibility for normalization, with history on shore to trump follow through on his plan. so there are many, many major obstacles which could prevent from, from doing it. they don't have leverage with these countries, but they also, i think have let bridge, which they can use. now, our country is usually don't use the leverage against the americans at this time because they have very existence, the security of the governments will be at stake. it might lead them to a change of the bar, the right of these countries that they come in and they become closer to, although he drew a political rivals like russia and china. so i think should um,

trump squeeze these nations that could very well be very damaging to your with interest and leave the us to losing some very valuable allies just quickly about the continuity between administrations and the, the by the mistress and picked up where trump left off with the hey, we're having the fluids in troy and also to mobilize tories between the saudis and the use rate is how it would be and, and successfully. so there is a continue with tech, and i think that's on the proposal. put forward by trump was just an unconventional language which we saw before, which was used by other demonstrations that there might be using a soft a ton. one final point is that this isn't good policy for the us. it's not good for us reason, interest, and it's also not good politics because search i remember according to recent opinion, polls carmella harris. the main reason she lost that's right was why didn't you

mystery shows were on go so. so trump isn't doing it himself. i think any good if you were to follow through on this plan. yeah, been around so it was really was interesting again, the optics of watching the 2 leaders in the white house sitting together companies taking on all of the risk and that's in yahoo takes no risk at all. i find it very strange strength. i mean, he's a business man, that's a very strange business strategy. go ahead, ramsey as well. i mean it, think about it based on how this lady he but we get particular reporting on this. nothing. he a whole goes as a field reader who's even battled in his own country. the military is in todd's or is, is a big, big problem is well, politically and militarily. and he called us back at 5 pm sent to me that we'd be via an all the, you know, of thinking about to be joining the government. again. this is the gift of trump, but these are temporary gifts of bethany, a wholesale, just a sense of try it before when he killed muscle, when,

when he killed the other kind of studying and everybody's leaders of the always feel that temporary sense of victory. but it disappears quite quickly, but what we have actually benefit from this is that this sense of ownership. i think it's very important then you'll raise a question about the media. the way the media is handling this issue is what is the deal that we owe on display? so we owe on this concept the way the been taught speaks of ownership. he speaks about the real estate point to view what american politicians and, and, and, and joe strategist actually don't thing can be done because the sign in front, the rest of the middle east is this. the difference is that from speaks about it in a very cool sense of colonialism. the way that the, the belgians under king, the vehicle perceived that the, for example, this is ours. we will sold it out as to which someone needs to tell the americans that the world has changed. you are no longer living these days and you don't have

all the keys and you cannot control and the, the physical goes there anymore. nor to think of the amenities, you know, awkward one of those. very creepy. it's cringe things about nothing. yeah. who has visited, gave a page here to trump a very publicly that's so creating, it's just a b. that means something to people like our ourselves, that in, in the region in the middle east itself. but you know, all around the world that is one of the most terrific things you can do. it's almost like almost never use this word. it's almost just evil. no, it would be under being evil. it's normal. i mean, let's call it what it is. it's normalizing terrorism, just like the media celebrated what this former c i a director clearly called the master event and 11 on when, you know israel did exploded all those pages and killed many, many civilians. and then in addition to some resistance fighters, i do just want to say on that note it should also be noted and said very plainly,

the netanyahu himself is playing with fire. he humiliated america this week. he made trunk look like his serve. and quite frankly, and the main stream media to you earlier points, they can spin it all the like. but the american people are slowly waking up to the fact that no matter which party wins as has been set on this program, somehow is ro, always stays in charge. and i think the american people are actually much like all of us growing tired of this reality. i mean the crime that trump declared, so probably in plainly let's just be, you know, legal about it. it's a crime born out of imperial lawlessness. but it's the crime of force displacement, and you know, when you permanently drive and indigenous population off their homeland in mass scale. and you replace that with settlers. perhaps that might speak to americas origin story of genocide. but, but i'm maybe a whole host of other nations, but we all know that beyond it being morally reprehensible. i think right now it's

a litmus tests for the 100. well, i yeah, but i'll come in and have to end on this note here. and the entire western civilizational experiment is on trial here and it's failing, it's failing very badly. and donald trump will be it's head figure if things continue the way they are gentlemen. that's all the time we have a one. it's like my guess in seattle do by and, and be roads. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our see. see you next time. remember across the the oh, what else seemed wrong? just don't you have to safe house

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