so my land actually gained independence fast on the 26th of june, 1900. on 6th, after the gained independence, though i immediately recognized by such as 6 countries on the 1st day of july, 1900 on 60. so malia will get this or to gain the independence on the country as much as one us. so my the to create a fit that ations. and at the time they was a country that believe the somalia was much larger. they believed if you look at the flag, they are fives, does it presenting each of the areas which they think should be? so my, the community that you were doing through northern part of kenya through the fluid . oh, good. then in this, the up the, and of course somebody land on so mind yates of that is the country code. so mind

the but we also know the, somebody as different programs over the years on this calling me and 8 and in the 1900 on the 7th is during the presidency of c. i bought a shooting, c, autobody. we remember that the somalis actually didn't invade oh good, then they all good then wall, which was same as under time during the day. but as you old men used to have the money i'm of, here's the last the had been over thrown that was continued on. the somalis was threatening, is still of the i, you know, very is that's the way until they feel peer inside to bring the cubans. it is the cuban boots on the ground that lead to the success of this, it feel pins against somebody after that. so my, the been generated into klein warfare, calling me nathan, in the defy jo,

see the body and paint for life. i did the demise. and what happened is that klein isms thought that dividing the country and literally the war load and started to imagine with individuals running through bell on point land and in 1900 on 91, they'll was a civil war. how does may cut it that i is it otherwise and after that civil will, so my loan declared high in defendants which independence has not been recognized by any country. but if you travel as to how to gaze, you will find that there is a functioning government complete with an army complete with the, with the currency. and indeed they have held this for elections and they are functioning as the country. but then we'll get this show administration does not accept that these an independent country and for that reason,

they do not accept that any country should negotiate directly with the government or the administration in how to be. so this is what has brought the current conflict between f c o p a on the so mind the, you remember that the deal pay uh self had a problem. been non lo look in the sense that when the time the is left and they, they, it is free. i was part of it. yeah. it was good. they had the port of the, the port, which was the nearly 3. yeah. but after the administration came into being in 1984, when men less than that, we with the tip the less took over and remove the dividends. you. it's a gain independence. and if you'll see a became land low cost. and as we talk now, if you'll pay a use of the part of it, you bought it on prime minister. i'd be a said that if you'll see a given it size and population cannot in the nature of things continued to belong

locked. and that is why the of, and the in to an agreement with so my, the line so that they can have access to the golf of adam. and also use for the size of the part of barbara. and what uh then happened. of course it is, is that the additional government has said that cannot be, you do not have the right to enter into negotiations with somebody land because somebody land is not a silver in state recognized by international community. and if you want to do anything, you must negotiate with the government in mogadishu of cause for a long time when there was no stable administration in mogadishu, those issues did not the rise. but now there is on a time to reclaim last $33.00. and that is what brings into today the current concept on the attempt at negotiation. there was an attempt initially to have

a gun negotiate. you've got the inter governmental authority of the development, which is in the onregional to negotiate the issue. but that did not go very fast. another thing that happened in order to ensure that the temperatures were lowered, village boutique government said we are prepared to give you a feel, feelings access to the se, but of costs. the philippines want on a drink meant that he's going to give them direct access and then did if you're traveling and that's part of the, there is no a major road that is connecting. if you'll see on the part of barbara, which port is on the expansion of the construction, you also know that the steel pins actually did try to get access on the saw them, but through the not the zip through the number port. but that is not doing very well. so what is this? think of negotiations, not the state of negotiations. is that very little is operating on the ground. the costs of mistrust is the east african community has now said that the,

designating canyon uganda to lead negotiations to bring in the field. and so my the together. but it's something that is not going to be easy. it is not going to be easy because another day as also entered into the i've, you know, the jeep sions, the defense of entered into the arena because the different terms uh saying that the construction of the ground, if you'll be under and also done, which is meant to generate $10000.00 megawatts of electricity is interfering with the flow of denial, which is you could defend zone. and i, i'm aware that the jeep sions of said that what really stuck in the 1900 on printing not, and a 1900 down 59 creatives. and in the month of october, specifically on the 14th day of october, the pin, the pin, the full, or is african countries under the night of best and the sign the nile

framework agreement. but egypt understood, done. i've refused to assign. and what's the difference uh say, a saying that they now want to bring $10000.00 troops to somebody uh, to engage in activities with this therapy. and i think uh, threatening and is something that is still being negotiated on the difference i've been told don't do that. and of course, another thing that has happened is that still malia will that issue of entered the into entertainment with the administration of ducky through under, for instance, it will one to train on to put call or the see show, which is the economic zone under the cost of this is something that the so my, the line does not happen. we remember that they were gunned and troops. i've been in somalia under the auspices of the african union can yeah. is also had the

presence introduced to my you, remember also that if somebody self has a problem with the eyes shut bad, and remember the old got in wall and all those things coming to play. now, the question is, how we're going to resolve this problem? how are we going to ensure that this particular conflict between if you appear on somebody land is resolved and it is not going to be easy because somebody land which just went through an election in the month of november, already appealing to the international community that they want to be recognized and they are saying that we control over $33.00 and we are going through the time it and who it is that is going to occupy our spaces on which arguments we are going to enter into. and with the coming in to office later in the month of january, with a new administration in the united states of america under donald trump. the assumption

on the front of the, somebody, landers, is that if there was to gain recognition by such a country, then there would be a floods, a gate of countries which would recognize. and i'm aware that somebody line does i engage in very aggressive diplomacy for the purpose of the gaining that gaining a completion. on the fact, this somali government in mogadishu has done to very interesting things. one, they applied on the, i know members of the subsequent community and being members of based off of the community the and out taking the position that these tasks within communities, countries which have quite a few lates, also my, the line should not allowed them to operate can yeah, is there such a country with the consulate? i think it's still p. i is the country with the consulate and the feel feelings and

the others of threatening that they will elevate those going through legs to embassy levels. and that is a hyperlink. the tension in that region in a very major way. one does my crystal ball tell me, my crystal ball tells me that the tensions are going to continue. it tells me that the attention of going to continue because within some model, yeah, it's of the or sort tensions, but particularly with small areas of life in cuba lined on point line was made, as i've also said that they are going to declare the own or autonomy so they, in donald conflictions of such a nature that negotiating for, for peace is not going to be on with, or is it coming into the mix of the docs and of the dimensions on the joining by will good issue, government or somebody government, your thoughts are going to community many play as a coming in to play on one ways to see what it is that is going to happen. but

particularly with the model, the time of government that hasn't been entered into between if the up, the, somebody that so i for see trouble in the future there. i see a situation where somebody land will remain a default to country which is not recognized. i see a somalia that he's going to try and continue to i get data and i see on this c p a, which is going to insist that we are going to be in somebody land. but particularly if your friends are going to do that in order to ensure that the jeep sions don't have any boots on the ground. and the part of that was knowing that they do that they all got in problem, which was a sauce of a conflict is still alive and well knowing that they do that if they don't have a port, then they are disabled. and i'm told, and this is subject to conformation that he did the field young's mind of using

that fight of the sea for purposes of building a viable navy. so this things happening at the time when africa is saying that we have declared the 2 years of looking for face. and i hope and believe that the current stock comes time says notwithstanding negotiations must continue. perhaps, under the auspices overall and also cont, body, the african union, which in the nature of things must begin to take on pay, throw, headquartered as it is in august sub by the fuel. the tensions must be redeemed, and peace must break out, negotiated on sustainable peace between as somebody a august here. thank you very much. uh,

we continue our conversations and as we talk about different countries and different individuals, let us take a break and come back in a short while so that the conversation may continue a pace the us today we're going to embark on a real. i'll finish up in the south west. the republic has come up to, you know, both colorado. this allows us to be just in the caucasus popular among nate, syllabus, voice, absolutely breathtaking views, but also a general engine case for thanks for useful. so let's get stuck in the the

piano to moon, but here the slide, our kids choke on 7. see in my truck was county in the republic of k, when is the 21st century was coming along, it was said that it would be offered because century a and many issues was touched on. one of them was the see as providing opportunities for the development of africa's economy africa has the advantage of having 2 or 3 made jo, what to buddies, if we leave the in town or what to on the western part of africa, we have the atlantic ocean on the eastern part of africa, we have the indian ocean and the northern part of africa, the mediterranean sea,

of which of the great opportunities in terms of the ability to spa, the african economy. tradition of costs, remember, is that this was canada, acquired grace significance as on the 1800 on 69 when it was constructed. and aside from the pond on, no one of the most important what the ways in the swear has gone up. and when it was seized by the defend the 1956, it was indeed the statement that it jumped on by extension off with the adult quite an important task. so the very 1st thing that we looked at when we talked about the c is the c as a mode of transportation for purposes of delivering goods in a manner that is cheaper than any other means. and this was kind of.