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appearance management that's you big agency and you know, sonya was doing this for some other it to you so you can, you can find no problem there. uh at us you can find politicians to you can find schools. uh, you can find x. uh, the executive schools all know are meant to stay. default benton book numbers was different. and there's the most not you say, yes, i de enrollment. that was the office of mr. mark. and so, yeah, is that lensky was paying off actors to bring that celebrity stock status. the key of, as us a id has been paying off john list and media outlets to propagate west a narrative. is that a full sped to the world, a k, a brain washing, you know, russia by china, by iran, bad israel, good, very, very good. and the g 7 is the rules based international or right? well cushion more of one of that with us here at all to international is the main

stream. narratives are essentially paid for by the western deep state and sold to you by the media press to choose. we come to life from the, [000:00:00;00] the, [000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to cross talk. were all things are considered. i'm peter live out . trump promised to shop the system and he is, he has declared war against the us government, threatened friends and bow a life with

a tear of war. and now he has personally decided to reorder the middle east palestinians and guys have faced more force displacement and ethnic cleansing the cross. i think guys, i'm joined by my guess, ramsey's my route in seattle. he is a palestinian author and journalist in dubai. we have, i've made a lean, he is an investigative emmy, nominated journalist and, and be route we process the risk. he is a security and political affairs analyst. i drilled in cross lock rolls and in fact, that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate, i'm going to go to ramsey 1st because he got up early as for this program, much appreciate the audience always appreciates when you are on the program ramsey . i really reflecting on what we heard on tuesday, which is world historic for any number of reasons here. but one kind of almost go

test and take away from, from claiming he will own guides. uh, essentially, i guess annex it. i mean, the words were very nebulous and when pressed by a very feeble press, he would not answer. i want to talk about media reaction in a moment, but around seems like a real estate deal is a substitute for a political solution. how bad can you get the get this situation go ahead, ramsey as well. this is very, very bad, but it also has a context. this is not the 1st time that americans, especially on from the side, talk about the real estate, the quotes entities awaiting them in a, in, in uh, garza and it's the 1st on such references as the riviera. give me the east, i mean doing it for 2 guys. that's one point as a long carlo. give me these. that was doing the also of course the period jet is cautionary, spoke a repeatedly about the real estate opportunities waiting for them at the gaza coast . but just to say these things after you actually join inside the extermination of

the palestinian people, were somewhat like benjamin that any of these are the department. and so is fugitive running from the law and to call them you add that fuel to a fire. that is beyond any other find did we ever seen in the middle east? it really shows such as the responsible steve craft. and it took completely away from any credibility from mike to gathered for himself, claiming that he is indeed the one who put the pressure on them. yeah, i'll just stop the war. well, yeah, i'll quit. it's also very interesting is that, as we've all agreed, we've heard these phrases from his son in law. but now it's the state policy. this is the policy of the united states. it's not as a reference, you know, wouldn't be good if we did, they'll. now this is policy here and what it is and again to many people in the west,

the want to admit it is that the united states is turning into the guarantor of a genocide in palestine. the most certainly, i mean i have to say i was certainly not shocked, but i did think i was hallucinating at one point watching donald trump say palestinians must not be on the ultimate. i had to watch it twice. i had to was to be honest. and then, and regardless of how many times you watch it, i mean admitting guy that has and i quote, been turned into hell while sitting next to the grinning devil who turned it into hell. and of course, he was only able to do so nothing yahoo, that is using american weapons and unrelenting diplomatic cover. so you know, a complete and total display of hedge, a monic hubris. and, and let's just take a quick step back. i mean, it's important to know that the 1st world leader, the new us president, welcome to the white house. just happens to be a work criminal with an arrest warrant have for him by the i c c. and so it does affect the question,

why is the trunk perfectly happy that off work attends from federal funds yet continues to fund is really government. and i think the fact is, the us, we all know, i think can agree will not be occupying garza and donald trump and jared questionnaire won't be building any resorts there. but in one sense, i'm kind of glad there. i say to see trump announced these plans so. ready open me so plainly instead of pretending to care about palestinians as many other us presidents have done that preceded him while simultaneously enabling their ethnic cleansing and genocide, which of course violates international law, but also violates us law as well. you know, and also ramsey. it's very interesting is that this whole approach, 1st of all, all of us have been very critical, critical of the so called to state solution which we have heard for decades, which are just mouth by western politicians. but now with crumbs a pronouncement, even though his administration's walking a back a little bit,

it's the overton window is open. it's widened. okay. is that, you know, they, the ethnic cleansing is, is us policy right now? and what it does is, this is an attempt by walking away from the so called 2 state solution. it is an attempt, and we've seen this before to erase palace palestinians as a national identity. go ahead, ramsey. and this is the policy that the americans have sponsor from the day that you start to. there's no point in history as the u. s. government, any u. s. administration of ashley champion and palestinian identity or palestinian sovereignty and all of that. and no matter what is what has done or do they do that, americans will always maintain that position. but think about it this way. they are talking about, oh well, you notice just clean up the mess them this going to get the gloves is out in 15 years because come back or maybe some of them don't. this damage the initiative or

piece of the initiative and the power back in the hands of the americans. and this is what i feel like the fear that many, many of us many palestinians outside outside does, doesn't mind you are experiencing is, is unrealistic. because the fact is, for 471 days pushed back. and that's only i guess it is what you mean to tell me. but it gives the worst of intelligence that gives american arguments against italian, german, french, and british course abuses that is what introduced like the entire western world of student. both thought as of the device in world war 2 filed on both garza and the still fail. so what can mr. from the real estate mobile can do to see the dynamics that last is for nearly 500 years. and garza emerge victorious despite the rest of the price, ordinary gauze, paid for that victory. but the thing that much will,

this is psychological because not everybody is paying attention to come back and give them the are ups the, i'm not a good the you don't do this, this is crazy. do use would not use would not to carry on with such language and so on and so forth. put the power back in trumps. have the power is actually in the hands of the palestinians and it has always been in the hands of pets. do you know, holly, it's good to you and very rude to mean a be a question that has not been brought up about it least up front and center is this also gives a green light for netanyahu. and in his a government to continue their growing genocide in the west bank because it's the, it's dispersing displacing all palestinians, not just gaza, but all. and that is left on spoken here. go ahead and be root. indeed it does. it does encourage rush to havior on the part of nothing. you know,

i think that westbank in particular is an important issue. remember that, um uh, toms appointee. his choice for ambassador at the history on is mike huckabee mike huckabee sense is on the west side. well known and they very much align with smoke friction blended up here and uh trumps, and busted into the air when we'll also stephanie. so you have a number of right wing fingers within the some restriction while very much in agreement with the smoke friction with been copier and with use brand new ultra right? so based upon that, i think there was a real possibility that donald trump might extend his approach or give his blessing if would like to or some kind of he's really in depth or in the west bank. we heard him saying that um, in about 4 weeks, he's going to make his announcement about where the whether or not to annex the west bank or to announce that he supports his radius offering to the west bank. i am suspecting that um trump is going to gain nothing,

you know pretty much what he wants when it comes to palestine bought in exchange for that. i think that on the sure the wrong. what i mean to say here was the trump has, we heard a mistake, but he's not going to be he wants to deal with the wrong. so he might give enough time to have one see what he wants in public story. it's strange for nothing. you know, turning it down when it comes to where iran had on encouraging escalation with the wrong or i think that off to the press conference up that the statements we heard during the nothing here who's visit it appears that might be the trump middle east policy you know, i said it's really interesting. i mean again, because it's my job, i have to look at what media says. all media has to say and in western media, they would never one. so it's a question. ask what, what, what, what, what happens when the palestinians say no, we're not interested in this deal, but question is never posed to western audiences ever. ok med,

i know it's true and i, you know, i think that it's important when we, we talk about trump and, and his, his in the edict things he says, which are obviously meant to manipulate and not just the mean media, but create some chaos. you know, give somewhere else leverage to 9, yahoo and normalize some of the most extreme is parts of the, his zionist ideology. but i do want to say, you know, let's not forget the bite and, and dividing the administrator and was exploring this very same option of pushing the palestinians out, academically, cleansing them in late 2023. i kind of want to echo with them as he said, because i think, you know, the addiction redeem, of course, didn't tolerate it, didn't accept it. but the language that by them used was, you know, softer as it is often with democrats. he called it a humanitarian corridor. you know, there's all these euphemisms for pushing the palestinians into the sign. i desert. but to your point peter, where was the sort of the moral conviction, an outrage that we've seen in display in the media. and then the halls of power and dc with cost and peach trump over ethnic cleansing. where was that?

during the last 1516 months under bite, and when billions of dollars of weapons were being sent. when you know, now we know more than 70000 palestinians murdered almost 100000 tons of weapons more than dressed in more than here a shima. where was that? i mean that to me peter, the real scandal here might be simply that trumpet. sing our right, whatever us president before him has done endorsed and upheld just without the mask of pretense. and when it comes to the question about where to the palestinian stand and all this, i mean, it is kind of appalling and really beyond shameful. it's seen how palestinians are not being raised only through genocide and have the kinds of things that are raised even in the equation of determining their fate. i don't know at that point i have to jump in here gentlemen. we have to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion. i've got to stay with our team

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i didn't know that you know for your state of great mental breakdown skills to the doctor. so as and you might have slightly recovery finding from the fonts. who's the sean? yeah. and media. com, so not of us. but just for the back of the fiscal on top of the field of worship. go means it is us. let me go see a guy and you said us a beautiful supervisor of good or should it weigh enough florida? she knew i was like you strong enough. listen to the physical, not the welcome at the cross. ok, we're all things are considered. i'm peter le, about your mind. you were discussing godsa the . okay, let's go back to our guest ramsey and in seattle here. ok, midwest thing at the end of the 1st part of the program. i'll use my word,

but the continuity that we see through administrations here trump is this a compass, trump. he's an oddity. uh and he's, he's turning into a historic figure, maybe not for the right reasons. and i tend to think that's true. but, you know, he's using real estate as a cover most other presidents, a humanitarian, it's of or democracy, all this other stuff we've gotten so tired of here. but the, the outcome is exactly the same. there is a continuity from biting to do to drum comes just more open about it. and he thinks he's actually doing humanity a favor by moving these people to like a motel 6 around the corner in a eminent domain style here. and, and that's a cover that's a cover for genocide and his and, and if he will, they move forward with his plan as well. whatever it is, how you got a formulated. it also essentially means the genocide continues a mr digit. indigenous stock has been taking business idea and posed to 8, in fact,

as early as 1953. if i remember correctly, it was when the americans were pushing for the so called roger plans. and that's the idea of pushing, you know, the palestinians out of gaza through the same night, doesn't the feel because of and this to me as a garza refused to, to do it. and again, and i did 6 or 7 under the, the that, you know, in class and again in the early 19 seventy's under the sharon class. and none of these plans have work now that trump is trying to be clever about it and trying to give it some sort of a few minutes. so you saw the end of the day. it makes no difference. it also makes no difference for palestinians who um and i have been is if you wish, as part of the city as being fired out or, or living under is a, be a bombs. it doesn't matter to us whether these bones are being provided by a democratic administration or by the public and administration at the end of the

legal or american bombs. and it's just american sustained junior site. so this is the reality of it. i'm assuming is i'm not buying into it. i photo social media but includes me from gaza and most people are just making fun of the notion that i just created all these incredible comedy and the notion of from trying to do what is what it has to be on to do. of course, to be to 6 or $7.00 to $7.00. yes. if i can just get back into something that rumsey mentioned there, i mean, for 76 years, i see says israel's tried to forcibly displace palestinians. and even 15 months of genocide with complete diplomatic cover in gaza, they failed. and the reason they failed just to really emphasize this, a trauma doesn't understand that this is what indigenous people do. yeah, they remain on the land because the land is not just where they happen to live. it's not a condo, it's who they are. and you know, when we see more than 70 percent of the victims of israel,

genocide being women and children, that is by design, that is not an accident. that is to prevent further generations. that's what i need, which they're waging this war. and lastly, i just want to say, as far as pathetic as trump can appear, what we saw in the last few days and this week is the white house press. secretary insist that the real evil per word isn't that us in israel turning on gaza, turning it into an unbelievable wasteland. but in genocide is not the evil but that surviving the genocide and insisting whether the palestinians themselves insist for others that they remain in their homeland. that somehow is the real evil. i mean to green light, the bombs fund, the destruction, and then act shocked when the result looks like a post apocalyptic wasteland. i mean the words, the admissions. i mean that not so bright. to put it lightly. white house press secretary admitted that israel using us weapons, has made god the uninhabited oil. no, no, no,

they didn't. they didn't admitted. that's what that's what's really amazing. if you look at the rhetoric coming out of the press score and the white house and trump and you know, it sounds like a natural disaster hit the place they, they never mentioned how it was turned into rubble. and the 1st like the know what the world knows, the greed ali it trump is repeatedly said that countries like jordan and egypt are on board the saudis. remarkably, this, the saudi foreign ministry at 4 o'clock in the morning that somebody was agitated, came out and said, now there must be a palestinian state. what is trump talking about? i mean, does he have that kind of leverage? i mean, both states, jordan and egypt are very fragile places. they're under america's thumb, can, can come get his way. ali a symbol i think, said when from spoke these words, they weren't very carefully considered. hardly. even some of these pains weren't

aware of what he was going to say. uh, so he didn't give much thought, i think, to the repercussions of what the impact of what you said on that this is what complex for the way you know, he promotes the mad man theory non from unpredictable person. and i think he's enjoying of the attention which is being given to these statements regardless of whether or not the plan is going to be far from or not. and enhancing the real question, i think egypt and jordan will be, will categorically rejected any such proposals because this for preston, their very existence of these got been seen both these 2 countries set a ravia as well. i think you can a st. goodbye to any possibility for normalization with israel, and i'm sure to trump follow through on his plan. so there are many, many major obstacles which could prevent from, from doing it. they don't have leverage with these countries, but they also,

i think, have blend bridge, which they can use. now, our country is usually done to use the leverage against the americans at this time because the very existence, the security of the governments will be at stake. it might lead to a change, and by the way of these countries that they come in, they've become closer to although he jeer political arrivals like russia and china . so i think should um, trump squeeze these nations that could very well be very damaging to your with interest and leave the us to losing some very valuable allies just quickly about the continuity between administrations and the, the by the mistress and picked up where trump less talk with you, hey brad, the phones and try to move. so to mobilize tories between the saudis and the use rate is how it would be an unsuccessful lead. so there was a continuance and i think that um,

but the proposal put forward by trump was just an unconventional language which we saw before, which was used by other administration. so there may be using a soft a ton. one final point is that this isn't good policy for the us. it's not good for you. what's the reason of interest? and it's also not politics. because i remember, according to recent opinion, polls carmella harris, the main reason she lost, that's right. was why the demonstrations were on go so. so trump isn't doing it himself. i think any good if he were to follow through on this plan. yeah. been around so it was really was interesting again, the optics of watching the 2 leaders in the white house sitting together, companies taking on all of the risk nothing yahoo takes no risk at all. i. i find it very strange a strep. i mean, he's a business man, that's a very strange business strategy. go ahead, ramsey as well i'm it is the think about it based on how this lady he but we get particular reporting on this. nothing. he a whole goes as a field reader who is even baffled in his own country. the military is in tatters,

is a big, big problem as well, politically and militarily. and he called us back at 5 pm sent to me that we'd be via an all the, you know, of thinking about to be joining the government. again. this is the gift of trump, but these are temporary gifts of bethany, a wholesale, just a sense of try it before when he killed most little, when, when the killed, the other kind of simian and everybody's leaders of the always feel that temporary sense of victory. but it disappears quite quickly, but what we have actually benefited from this is that this sense of ownership. i think it's very important that you'll raise the question about the media. the weight of the media is handling this issue is what is the deal that we owe on display? so we own discomfort the way that they've been taught speaks of ownership. he speaks about this on the real estate point to view what american politicians and, and, and, and,

and jo strategist actually don't thing can be done because the sign in front, the rest of the middle east is this. the 1st is that from speaks about it in a very cool sense of colonialism. the way that the, the belgians under king the vehicle proceeded to the, for example, this is ours. we will sold it out as to which someone needs to tell the americans that the world has changed. you are no longer living these days of you don't have all the keys and you cannot control and meet on the face of gauze anymore. nor to think of the amenities, you know, awkward one of those. very creepy. it's cringe things about nothing. yeah. who has visited, gave a page here to trump is very publicly that's so cringed as they be. that means something to people like our ourselves, that in, in the region in the middle east itself. but, you know, all around the world that is one of the most terrific things you can do. it's almost like almost never use this word. it's almost just evil. no, it would be under being evil. it's normal. i mean,

let's call it what it is. it's normalizing terrorism, just like the media celebrated what this form is, the i a director, clearly called the master event and 11 on when, you know israel did explode all those pages and killed many, many civilians. and then in addition to some uh, resistance fighters, i do just want to say on that note it should also be noted and said very plainly, the name yahoo! himself is playing with fire. he's humiliated america this week he made trump look like his serve and quite frankly, and the main stream media to you earlier points that can spin it all the like. but the american people are slowly waking up to the fact that no matter which party wins, as has been said on this program, somehow is ro, always stays in charge. and i think the american people are actually much like all of us growing tired of this reality. i mean the crime that trump declared, so probably in plainly let's just be, you know, legal about it. it's a crime born out of imperial lawlessness. but it's the crime of force displacement,

and you know, when you permanently drive and indigenous population off their homeland in mass scale and you replaced it with the settlers. perhaps that might speak to america's origin story, to a genocide, but maybe a whole host of other nations. but we all know that beyond it being morally reprehensible. i think right now it's a litmus test for the 100. well, i have a documented and then i have to end on this note here, and the entire western civilizational experiment is on trial here and its failing, it's failing very badly. and donald trump will be its head figure if things continue the way they are gentlemen. that's all the time we have a one, it's like my guess in seattle, dubai, and in bay road. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at

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