and you wonder why so many countries trying to preserve the sovereignty, ditching the us green back by from moscow, and thought to international the i am here to the moon, but he had to bend the state and we continue our conversations about different parts of the continent of africa today, we want to have a conversation about c o, p, a on somali, and i say so my, the family because it is important to understand this thing or the concretely now cause so mind, yes. so molly or somebody was color nies by 2 countries. they

tanya and can cut the lower part of the country headquarters in mogadishu, on the british concord, the up upside bordering the golf provides. and then what's called the british to my, the line at this time of independence. so my land actually gained independence fast on the 26th of june, 190160 odd after the gained independence. though i immediately recognized by such as 6 countries on the 1st day of july, 1900 on 60. so malia will get this sort of gain to independence on the country as much as one us. so my the to create a fit that ations on that the time z y, a country that believe the somalia was much larger. they believe if you look at the

flag, they are fives. does it presenting each of the areas which they think should be? so my, the 3 pages you would need to include notes on fargo, kenya through the fluid. oh, good, then you know? yeah, and of course somebody land on so mind yates of that is the country code. so mind the but we also know the so my, the as i different programs over the years on this calling me and 8 and in the 1900 on the 7th is during the presidency of c. i body during c. i divided really member that the somalis actually been in vain. oh good. then they all good then wall, which was same as under that time during the day. but as you old men used to hate him a young of harring, she lost that you had been overthrown. that wall continued on the somalis was reckoning. it's still still, you know, very it's,

that's the way until the feel peer inside to bring the cubans. it is the cuban boots on the ground that led to the success of this. it still pins against somebody after that. so my, the be generated into klein warfare, kind of mean a thing in the defy joe. see the body and paint for life. i did the demise. and what happened is the klein isms thought the dividing the country and literally the war load and started to imagine with individuals running jubal on point land and in 1900 on $91.00, they'll was a civil war. how does may cut it that eyes it otherwise and after that civil war? so my love and declare i had high in defendants which independence has not been recognized by any country. but if you travel to how to gaze, you will find that there is a functioning government complete with an army,

complete with the with the car and see, and in did, they have held this for elections and they are functioning as a country. but then we'll get this show administration does not accept that these an independent country. and for that reason, they do not upset that any country should negotiate directly with the government or the administration in how to base. this is what has brought the current conflict between f c o p a on the so my, the, you remember that the deal pay uh, self had a problem. been non law looked in the sense that when the time the ends left on the, the industry i was part of it. yeah. it was good. they had the port of the, the port, which was the negative for. yeah. but after the administration came into being in 1984, when men less than that,

we with the tip the less took over and remove the dividends. you, it's a gained independence and it's still became alonzo. and as we talk now, if you'll p i use as the part of what i'm prime minister, i'd be a said that the feel feel given is size unpopular. sion cannot in the nature of things continued to belong locked. and that is why the, in the, in do on agreement with the so my, the line so that they can have access to the gulf of i do and also use for the size of the, for the barbara. and what uh then happened. of course it is, is that the additional government has said that cannot be, you do not have the right to enter into negotiations with somebody land because somebody not is not a silver in state recognized by international community. and if you want to do this thing, you must negotiate with the government in mogadishu of cause for

a long time when there was no stable administration in mogadishu, those issues didn't authorize. but now there is enough time to reclaim last 33. and that is what brings into play the current concept on the attempt at negotiation . there was an attempt initially to have a gun negotiate you've got into a governmental authority of the development, which is in the onregional to negotiate the issue. but that did not go very fast. another thing that happened in order to ensure that the temperatures were annoyed. village boutique, the government said we are prepared to give you a feel, feelings access to the same. but of course they feel pens want. i'm not really meant that he's going to give them direct access on didn't did if you're traveling and that's part of the, there is no a major road that is connecting is therapy on the part of barbara, which port is on the expansion of construction. you'd also know that the steel pins

actually did tried to get access on the saw them, but through the opposite through the lumber port. but that is not doing very well. so what is the state of negotiations? not the state of negotiations is that very little is operating on the ground. the costs of mistrust is the east african community has now said that the, designating kenya and uganda to lead negotiations to bring in field. and so my idea together, but is something that is not going to be easy. it is not going to be easy because another day as also and that into the have, you know, the gyptian, the defense of entered into the interview. not because the different terms uh saying that the construction of the ground, it feel free and written, also done, which is meant to generate 10000 megawatts of electricity is interfering with the flow of the nile. which is you depends on. and i, i'm aware that the jeep sions of said that what really stuck in the 1900 done

printing not in a 1900 down 59 cruelties. and in the month of october, specifically on the 14th day of october, the printed print, the full or if african countries under denial, this and the sign denial of framework agreement. but egypt and so done, i've refused to assign. and what's the difference uh say, a saying that they now want to bring $10000.00 troops to somebody uh, to engage in activities with the philippines. think uh, threatening. and is something that is still being negotiated on the different i've been told don't do that. and of course, another thing that has happened is that still malia will that issue of entered into entertainment with the administration of ducky through under prisons. it's a one to train on to patrol or the see show,

which is the economic zone. and of course, this is something that the so mind yolanda is not happy with. remember that they were gunned and troops. i've been in somalia, under the auspices of the office and union kenya has also had the presence in the case of my you remember also that if somebody self has a problem with the eyes shut bad, and remember the old got in wall and all those things are coming to play now, the question is, how we're going to resolve this problem? how are we going to ensure that this particular conflict between if you appear on somebody land is resolved and it is not going to be easy because to milan, which just went through an election in the month of november, already appealing to the international community that they want to be recognized

and they are saying that we control noah 33 and we are going through the time and, and who it is that is going to occupy our spaces on which arguments we are going to enter into. and with the coming in to office later in the month of january, with a new administration in the united states of america under donald trump. the assumption on the front of the, somebody, landers, is that if there was to gain recognition by such a country, then there would be floods a gate of countries which would recognize. and i'm aware that somebody line does i engage in very aggressive diplomacy for the purpose of the gaining is that gaining a completion on the fact, the somali government in mogadishu has done 2 very interesting things. one, they applied on the, i know members of a subject compliment and being members of based off we're going to community the on

out taking the position that these topic and communities countries which have quite a few lates. oh, so my line should not allowed them to operate. can yeah. is that such a country with the consulate? i think it's still p. i is the country with the consulate and the feel feelings on to others of threatening that they will elevate those going through legs to embassy levels. and that is a heightening the tension in that region in a very major way. one doesn't my crystal ball tell me my pistol ball tells me that the tensions are going to continue. it tells me that the attention of going to continue because within so model. yeah, it's of the, or sort tensions, but particularly with small areas of life in cuba lined on point the line was made as i've also said that they are going to declare the own or economy. so the internal contradictions of such a nature that negotiating for, for peace,

is not going to be easy on with the coming into the mix of the ducks and of the difference on the joining by will good issue. government or somebody. government is thoughtful, going to community many play as a coming in to play on one way to see what it is that is going to happen. but particularly with the model, the time of government that hasn't been entered into between. if the up here on somebody that so i for see trouble in the future there, i see a situation where somebody land will remain a default country, which is not recognized. i see a somalia that he's going to try and continue to. i get data and i see on this seal p a, which is going to insist that we are going to be in somebody land, particularly if your fans are going to do that in order to ensure that the jeep sions don't have any boots on the ground. and the part of that was knowing that

they do that they all got den problem, which was a source of a conflict, is still alive and well knowing that they do that if they don't have a port, then they are disabled. and i'm told on this is subject to conformation that in did they feel feelings minded of using that fighter see, for purposes of building a viable navy. so these things happening at the time when africa is saying that we have declared the 2 years of, of looking for peace. and i hope and believe that the current stock comes tons is not withstanding negotiations must continue. perhaps, under the auspices, over an applicant, buddy, the african union, which in the nature of things, must begin to take on pay throw,

headquartered as it is in august of about $50.00 of the tensions must be redeemed. and peace must break out, negotiated on sustainable peace between as somebody. uh, honestly, yeah, thank you very much. uh, we continue our conversations and as we talk about different countries and different individuals, let us take a break and come back in a short while. so the conversation may continue a pace, the trump promised to shock the system and he is, he is declared war against the us government threatening friends and filed a life with a terror for. and now he is personally decided to reorder the middle east palestinians and jobs and face more ports displacement and ethnic cleansing the

piano to move. but here the slider, kids shall conservancy in my truck was gone. the in the republic of k, when is the 21st century, was coming along, it was said that it would be offered because century and many issues were touched on. one of them was the c as providing opportunities for the development of africa's economy africa has the advantage of i've been 2 or 3 med, jo, what the buddies, if we leave the in town, know what to on the western part of africa. we have the atlantic ocean on the eastern side or vice versa. we have the indian ocean on the new.