claim on use land from private parties. critics including south african bowling trump, advisor, ellen musk claiming that legislation takes aim at white landowners. however, pretoria argues otherwise noting that nothing can be done without a court decision. all this prompted the us secretary of state, marco rubio, the approach as the one of a sudden decided to come. so his trip to south africa for the upcoming foreign ministers meeting of g 20 i will not attend the g. 20 summit in johannesburg. south africa is doing very bad things. expropriating private property using g 20 to promote solidarity to quality and sustainability. in other words, d i in climate change. while they were started with several south african politicians on officials to get their reaction to the us stones on this land issue . as it goes, it goes out of democracy with the sofa and states. we have our own decisions to make informed whether they lose or for cause addition. and that's what guides us

with, that is on expropriation x, full public good. but also expropriation for the distribution of the land is it will be informed by the course not quickly. provisions of this republic with big decisions are made to they should be made on fact not on misinformation in a state from the beginning. this clearly is the misinformation that is getting into the watch house around what is actually happening until that for to there's no mistakes preparation plan. there's no genocide and there's absolutely no targeting of certain people based solely on the race. we have a high but we do have non expropriation and that is problem magic and that's all we've gone to quotes and we're going to resolve it. but saw that for it, you cannot just wave the united states with the largest economy in the world. we get preferential access to that market from an agriculture perspective, very important motor vehicle manufacturing, very important manufactured goods and minerals, very important. and so we need to focus on how we repair that relationship. there's no countries a ton,

did that is not that was with anyone with these is at peace with itself been dealt with like it has been dealt with by the united states of america for doing absolutely nothing. i mean that, that then explains, what do i do to cut tabs? we, we call in the amc as imperial is, you know, how do i mean i, the economies in other countries and dominated and this is what did this to us. it's a money for station of an employee to at least a grudge against the outcomes is not only our country, but the other nations who's got a problem when $1.00 president of the another country, instead of engaging his counterpart, which is the president of south africa goals and megs i taught and sees that seek to undermine our domestic policies undermine no, and these new an insight simply because they believe as a so pop how they can say whatever they can sing to whoever. so it's something that we as a part, what about taking strong exception to and

a very happy that the president of the country off and stuff because of somebody in country it's by saying will not be fully to the west has never been friends or set off because they have participated in exploiting our resorts is they have participated, the racism that we have and the problems that we have in the country with created and maintained by that was. so when it comes to the likes of donald trump, i don't take him serious products, just about it right for now. here on author international, but thank you for joining us with us live our from most of my colleagues. saskia taylor is here in half an hour's time with more of your world wide headlines, but most certainly on sunset as of the the

hello and welcome to cross stock. were all things are considered. i'm theater live out. trump promised to shock the system any is declared war against the us government, threatened friends and both alike with a tear of war. and now is personally decided to reorder the middle east. palestinians and girls have faced more force displacement and ethnic cleansing the cross. i think guys, i'm joined by my guess, ramsey's my route in seattle. he is a palestinian author and journalist in dubai. we have i've made a lean. he is an investigative emmy, nominated journalist and and b route. we presently risk, he is

a security and political affairs analyst. i drilled in cross lock rolls, and in fact, that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate, i'm going to go to ramsey 1st because he got up early as for this program, much appreciated audience always appreciates when you are on the program ramsey, i really reflecting on what we heard on tuesday, which is world historic for any number of reasons here, but one kind of almost drug test and take away from trump claiming he will own gaza essentially, i guess annex it. i mean the words were very nebulous and when pressed by a very feeble press, he would not answer. i want to talk about media reaction in a moment, but rather than using a real estate deal is a substitute for a political solution. how bad can you get to get this situation go ahead, ramsey as well. this is very, very bad, but it's also has a context of this is not the 1st time that americans, especially on from the side,

talk about the real estate of 14. it is a way to move them in, in, in gaza. and it's the 1st on such references as the riviera really, this is the mean the that's one point. there's a long carlo. give me these that was doing the also of course the 30 objects cautionary spoke a repeatedly about the real estate opportunities waiting for them at the gaza coast . but just to say these things after either at 425, the extermination of the palestinian people were somewhat like benjamin. that's in the all the department is what is your intent to running from the law and to call and you on that fuel to a fire that is beyond any other why did we ever seen in the middle east it really shows such as the responsible steed craft and it took completely away from any credibility trump might of gathered for him. so claiming that he is indeed the one

for pressure on that to me. i hope to stop the war. why i'll quit. it's also very interesting is that, as we've all agreed, we've heard these phrases from his son in law. but now it's the state policy. this is the policy of the united states. it's not as a reference, you know, wouldn't be good if we did, they'll. now this is policy here and what it is and again to many people in the west, the want to admit it is that the united states is turning into the guarantor of a genocide in palestine. most certainly, i mean i have to say i was certainly not shocked, but i did think i was hallucinating at one point watching donald trump say palestinians must not be on the ultimate. i had to watch it twice. i had to was to be honest. and regardless of how many times you watch it, i mean admitting guy that has and i quote, been turned into hell while sitting next to the grinning devil who turned it into

hell. and of course, he was only able to do so. and then yahoo, that is using american weapons and unrelenting diplomatic cover. so you know, a complete and total display of hedge, a monic hubris. and, and let's just take a quick step back. i mean, it's important to know that the 1st world leader, the new us president, welcome to the white house. just happens to be a work criminal with an arrest warrant out for him by the i c c. and so it does affect the question, why is trump perfectly happy cut off work against from federal funds, yet continues to fund is really government. and i think the fact is, the us, we all know, i think can agree will not be occupying garza and donald trump and jared questionnaire won't be building any resorts there. but in one sense, i'm kind of glad there. i say to see trump announced these plans so. ready open me so plainly instead of pretending to care about palestinians as many other us presidents have done that preceded him while simultaneously enabling their ethnic

cleansing and genocide, which of course violates international law. but also violets u. s. law as well, you know and also ramsey. it's very interesting is that, so this whole approach, 1st of all, all of us have been very critical, critical of the so called 2 state solution, which we have heard for decades, which are just now the by western politicians. but now with terms a pronouncement, even though his administration's walking a back a little bit, it's the overton window is open. it's widened. okay. is that, you know, they, the ethnic cleansing is, is us policy right now? and what it does is, this is an attempt by walking away from the so called 2 state solution. it is an attempt, and we've seen this before to erase policy palestinians as a national identity. go ahead, ramsey. and this is the policy, the americans have sponsor from the day that you start to this new point in history

as the u. s. government and a u. s. administration of as the champion and palestinian identity or palestinian sovereignty and all of that then no matter what is what has done or do they do, the americans will always maintain that position. but think about this way, they are talking about, oh well, you notice just clean up the mess and it's good to get the glasses out in 15 years because come back or maybe some of them don't. this damage the initiative or this is the initiative and the power back in the hands of the americans. and this is what i feel like the fear that many, many of us, many pundits demands outside outside does. doesn't mind you are experiencing is, is, is unrealistic. because the fact is, for 471 days pushed back. not only i guess it is what you meant to tell me, but i guess what's the intelligence that gives american arguments against italian,

german, french, and british course abuses that is what introduced like the entire western world of food in both sides to the divide in world war 2, piles of garza and this still fail. so what can mr from the real estate mobile can do to achieve the dynamics that last for nearly 500 years ago? just imagine victoria's despite to deal with the price ordinary gauze, paid for that victory, but really think that much. so this is psychological because now everybody is paying attention to come back and give him the reps, the i'm or a good the you don't do this, this is crazy. do use would not use would not to carry on with such language and so on. and so forth, put the power back in trump's hand. the power is actually in the hands of the palestinians, and it has always been in the hands of pets. do you know, holly, it's good to you and very rude to mean the a question that is not been brought up about it least up front and center is this

also gives a green light for netanyahu. and in his a government to continue their growing genocide in the west bank because it's the, it's dispersing displacing all palestinians, not just gaza, but all. and that is left on spoken here. go ahead and be root. indeed it does. it does encourage you, rush to have your own. the pots have nothing. you know, i think that westbank in particular is an important issue. remember that, um uh, toms a pointy, his choice for a bus that the history on is mike huckabee mark huckabee sense is on the west bank well known and they very much align with smoke friction blended up here. and uh, trump side by side or to the year when also stephanie. so you have a number of right wing figures within this administration who are very much in agreement with the smoke patient with ben copier and with the is brand new ultra

right? so based upon that, i think there was a real possibility that donald trump might extend his approach or giving his blessing before i'd like to or some kind of he's really and that are in the west bank. we heard him saying that um, in about 4 weeks, he's going to make his announcements about where the weather ought to. and next to westbank code to announce that he supports his ready self warranty. over the west bank. and i am suspecting that, um trump is going to give nothing, you know pretty much what he wants when it comes to palestine bought in exchange for that. i think that on the sure the wrong. what i mean to say here was the trump has we heard any statements, he's not going to be, he wants to deal with the wrong. so he might give nothing to have one say what he wants in public storage. it's strange for the whole. turning it down when it comes to where iran had on encouraging escalation with the wrong or i think that off to the press conference off that the statements we heard during the nothing here who

is visit it appears that might be the trump middle east policy. you know, i said it's really interesting. i mean again, because it's my job, i have to look at what media says. all media has to say and in western media, they would never one. so it's a question asked what, what, what, what happens when the palestinians say no, we're not interested in this deal, but question is never posed to western audiences ever. ok med, i know it's true and i, you know, i think that it's important when we, we talk about trump and, and his, his, he's in the edict things he says, which are obviously meant to manipulate, not just the mean media, but create some chaos. you know, give somewhere else and leverage to 9 yahoo and normalize some of the most extreme is parts of the zionist ideology. but i do want to say, you know, let's not forget the bite and, and dividing the administrator and was exploring this very same option of pushing the palestinians out, academically, cleansing them in late 2023. i kind of want to echo with them as he said,

because i think, you know, the addiction regime of course didn't tolerate. it, didn't accept it. but the language that finding use was, you know, softer as it is often with democrats. he called it a humanitarian corridor. you know, there's all these euphemisms for pushing the palestinians into the sign. i desert. but to your point peter, where was the sort of the moral conviction, an outrage that we've seen in display in the media. and then the halls of power and dc with cost and pj, trump over ethnic cleansing. where was that during the last 1516 months under bite, and when billions of dollars of weapons were being sent. when you know now we know more than 70000 palestinians murdered almost 100000 tons of weapons. more than dressed in more than here. a shima where it was about. i mean that to me peter, the real scandal here might be simply that trumpet, sing out, right. whatever you as president before him has done endorsed and upheld just without the mask of pretense. right? when it comes to the question about where to the palestinian stand and all this,

i mean, it's kind of appalling and really beyond shameful. it's seen how palestinians are not being raised only through genocide and have the kinds of things that are raised even in the equation of determining their fate. i don't know at that point i have to jump in here gentlemen, we have to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion. i've got to stay with our team the, the today we're going to embark on a real and finish up in the south, west, the republic of columbia, both colorado regionally and the coaxes popular among nate, syllabus voice absolutely rest taking views, but also a gentleman jones. his voice extreme sports. so let's get stuck in the

the welcome at the cross. ok, we're all things are considered. i'm peter real about your mind. you were discussing godsa the . okay, let's go back to our guest ramsey and in seattle here. ok, midwest thing at the end of the 1st part of the program, i'll use my word, but the continuity that we see through weed ministrations. here trump is this a compass, trump? he's an oddity um and he's been, he's turning into a historic figure. maybe not for the right reasons, and i tend to think that's true. but you know, he's using real estate as a cover most other presidency, humanitarian. it's of our democracy. all this other stuff that we've gotten so tired of here, but the, the outcome is exactly the same. there is a continuity from biden to do to drum drums. just more open about it. and he thinks

he's actually doing humanity a favor by moving these people to like a motel 6 around the corner in a eminent domain style here. and. and that's a cover that's a cover for genocide and his and if he will, they move forward with his plan as well. whatever it is, how you got a formulated. it also essentially means the genocide continues a mr digit. indigenous stock has been taking business. 1948 and felt as early as 1953. if i remember correctly, it was when the americans were pushing for the so called roger plans. and that's the idea of pushing, you know, the palestinians out of gaza through the same night, does the field because of and this to me as a garza refused to, to do it. and again, and i get 6 or 7 under the, the, the, you know, in class. and again in the early 19 seventy's under the sharon class. and none of these plans have work now that trump is trying to be clever about it and trying to

give it some sort of a few minutes ago. you saw the end of the day. it makes no difference. it also makes no difference for palestinians who and i have been in a situation as been a city is being fired out or, or living under is a, be a bombs. it doesn't matter to us whether these bones are being provided by a democratic administration or by a republican administration at the end of the, the, the american bombs. and it's just american sustained julia site. so this is the reality of it. and the stimulus, i'm not buying it to it. i photo social media, but it goes to be from gaza. and most people are just making fun of the notion that i just created all of these incredible economy the, the notion of, from the trying to do what is what has failed to do, of course, to be to 6 or 7 to 7. yes. if i can just get back into something that rumsey mentioned there, i mean for 76 years, i see says israel's tried to forcibly displace palestinians. and even 16 months of

genocide with complete diplomatic cover in god the they've failed. and the reason they failed, just to really emphasize this, a trauma doesn't understand that this is what indigenous people do. yeah, they remain on the land because the land is not just where they happen to live. it's not a condo, it's who they are. and you know, when we see more than 70 percent of the victims of israel, genocide being women and children, that is by design, that is not an accident. that is to prevent further generations best, right? we need to, which there waging this war. and lastly, i just want to say as far as that it gets, trump can appear what we saw in the last few days. and this week is the white house press. secretary insist that the real evil per word isn't that us in israel turning on gaza, turning it into an unbelievable wasteland. bitten genocide is not the evil but that surviving the genocide and insisting whether the palestinians themselves insist for

others that they remain in their homeland the that somehow is the real evil. i mean to green light, the bombs fund, the destruction, and then act shocked when the result looks like a post apocalyptic wasteland. i mean the words, the admissions. i mean that not so bright. to put it like the white house press. secretary admitted that israel using us weapons, has made god's uninhabited. oh no, no, no, they didn't. they didn't, admitted. that's what, that's what's really amazing that they, if you look at the rhetoric coming out of the press score and the white house and trump and you know, it sounds like a natural disaster hit the place they, they never mentioned how it was turned into rubble and the 1st like the know it, but the world knows the great ali it trump is repeatedly said that countries like jordan and egypt are on board the saudis. remarkably, this,

the saturday for ministry at 4 o'clock in the morning that somebody was agitated, came out and said, now there must be a palestinian state. what is trump talking about? i mean, does he have that kind of leverage? i mean, both states, jordan and egypt are very fragile places there under america's thumb can can come get his way ali, the 1st of all, i think that when from start to these words, they weren't very carefully considered hardly. even some of these pains weren't aware of what he was going to say. uh, so he didn't give much thought, i think, to the repercussions or to the impact of what he said on that this is what trump blogs for the way you know. he promotes the mad man theory not from unpredictable person. and i think he's enjoying of the attention which is being given to these statements regardless of whether or not the plan is going to be far from or not. and enhancing the real question, i think egypt and jordan will be,

will categorically rejected any such proposals because this for preston, they've already in existence. all these got been seen both these 2 countries set a ravia as well. i think you can a st. goodbye to any possibility for normalization, with a history on shore to trump follow through on his plan. so there are many, many major obstacles which could prevent from, from doing it. they don't have leverage with these countries, but they also, i think have let bridge, which they can use. now, our country is usually done to use the leverage against the americans at this time because the very existence, the security of the governments will be at stake. it might lead to a change of the bar, the right of these countries that they come in. they've become closer to, although he drew a political rivals like russia and china. so i think should um, trump squeeze these nations that could very well be very damaging to your with

interest and leave the us to losing some very valuable allies just quickly about the continuity between administrations and the, the by the mistress and picked up where trump less talk with you, hey, brand the phones and try them also to mobilize tories between the saudis and the use rate is how it will be and, and successfully. so there was a continuance and i think that um, but the proposal put forward by trump was just an unconventional language which we saw before, which was used by other administration. so there may be using a soft a ton. one final point is that this is a good policy for the us. it's not good for you with reason, interest, and it's also not good politics because or sherman, but according to recent opinion, polls carmella harris, the main reason she lost, that's right was why the demonstrations were on go so. so trump isn't doing it himself. i think any good if he were to follow through on this plan. yeah,

been around so it was really was interesting. again, the optics of watching the 2 leaders in the white house sitting together, companies taking on all of the risk nothing yahoo takes no risk at all. i find it very strange a strep. i mean, he's a business man, that's a very strange business strategy. go ahead, ramsey as well. i mean it, think about it based on how this lady he but we get particular reporting on this and that's in the a whole goes as a field reader who's in bachelor's in his own country. the military is in todd's or is, is a big, big problem is well, politically and militarily. and he called us back at 5 pm sent to me that we'd be via an all the, you know, of thinking about 3, joining the government. again, this is the gift of trump, but the sort of temporary gift of bethany a wholesale, just a sense of try it before when he killed muscle, when, when he killed the other kind of simian and everybody's leaders of the always feel that temporary sense of victory but it disappears quite quickly,

but what we have actually benefit from this is that this sense of ownership. i think it's very important that you'll raise the question about the media. the width of the media is handling this issue, is what it is. and the deal that we owe on display, so we own discomfort the way the been taught speaks of ownership. he speaks about the real estate point to view what american politicians and, and, and, and, and joe strategist actually don't thing can be done because the sign in front, the rest of the middle east is this. the 1st is that from speaks about it in a very cool sense of colonialism. the way that the, the belgians under king, the vehicle perceived the of the code. for example. this is always we will sold it out as to which someone needs to tell the americans that the world has changed. you are no longer living these days if you don't have all the keys and you cannot control and meet on the face of gauze anymore, nor to think of the amenities,

you know, awkward one of those. very creepy. it's cringe things about nothing. yeah. who has visited, gave a page here to trump a very publicly that's so cringed as they be. that means something to people like our ourselves, that in, in the region in the middle east itself. but you know, all around the world that is one of the most terrific things you can do. it's almost like almost never use this word. it's almost just evil. no, it would be under being evil. it's normal. i mean, let's call it what it is. it's normalizing terrorism, just like the media celebrated what this form is, the i a director, clearly called the master event and 11 on when, you know israel did explode all those pages and killed many, many civilians. and then in addition to some uh, resistance fighters, i do just want to say on that note it should also be noted and said very plainly, the name yahoo! himself is playing with fire. he's humiliated america this week. he made trunk look

like his servant, quite frankly, and the mainstream media to you earlier points that can spin it all the like. but the american people are slowly waking up to the fact that no matter which party wins as has been set on this program. somehow is ro, always stays in charge, and i think the american people are actually much like all of us growing tired of this reality. i mean the crime that trump declared, so probably in plainly, let's just be, you know, legal about it. it's a crime born out of imperial lawlessness, but it's the crime of force displacement. and you know, when you permanently drive and indigenous population off their homeland in mass scale. and you replace that with settlers. perhaps that might speak to americas origin story of genocide, but, but i'm maybe a whole host of other nations. but we all know that beyond it being morally reprehensible. i think right now it's a litmus tests for the 100. well, i am a documented, and then i have to end on this note here, and the entire western civilizational experiment is on trial here and it's failing,

it's failing very badly. and donald trump will be it's head figure if things continue the way they are gentlemen. that's all the time we have a one, it's like my guess in seattle to buy and and be roads. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our see see you next time. remember, across the the,

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