meant an ethnic cleansing the cross. i think guys, i'm joined by my guess, ramsey's my route in seattle. he is a palestinian author and journalist and do by we have i've made a lean. he is an investigative emmy, nominated journalist. and in beirut, we presently risk. he is a security and political affairs analyst. i drilled in cross soft roles and the fact that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate, i'm going to go to ramsey 1st because he got up early is for this program, much appreciated audience always appreciates when you are on the program ramsey i, we were reflecting on what we heard on tuesday, which is world historic for any number of reasons here, but one kind of almost go test and take away from, from claiming he will own gaza essentially, i guess annex it. i mean the words were very nebulous and when pressed by a very feeble press, he would not answer. i want to talk about media reaction in

a moment, but ramsey, i think a real estate deal is a substitute for a political solution. how bad can you get the get this situation go ahead, ramsey as well. this is very, very bad, but it also has a context. this is not the 1st time that americans, especially on from the side, talk about the real estate, the quotes entities awaiting them in, in, in uh, garza and is the 1st on such references as the riviera. me, the east. i mean, the 1st of all is that the one for the long carlo give me these that was doing. the also of course, period jet is cautionary, spoke a repeatedly about the real estate opportunities waiting for them at the gaza closed. but just to say these things after you actually do decide the extermination of the palestinian people were somewhat like benjamin that any of these are the department. and so if you don't have to running from the law and to

call them you add that fuel to a fire that is beyond any other part of that we ever seen in the middle east. it really shows such as the responsible state craft and it took completely away from any credibility from mike to gathered for himself, claiming that he is indeed the one who put the pressure on them. yeah, i'll just stop the war. well yeah, i'll quit. it's also very interesting is that, as we've all agreed, we've heard these phrases from his son in law. but now it's the state policy. this is the policy of the united states. it's not as a reference, you know, wouldn't be good if we did, they'll. now this is policy here and what it is and again to many people in the west, the want to admit it is that the united states is turning into the guarantor of a genocide in palestine. the most certainly, i mean i have to say i was certainly not shocked,

but i did think i was hallucinating at one point watching donald trump say palestinians must not be awesome at i had to watch it twice. i had to was to be honest. and then, and regardless of how many times you watch it, i mean admitting god that has and i quote, been turned into hell while sitting next to the grinning devil who turned it into hell. and of course, he was only able to do so and then yahoo, that is using american weapons and unrelenting diplomatic cover. so you know, a complete and total display of hedge, a monic hubris. and, and let's just take a quick step back. i mean, it's important to know that the 1st world leader, the new us president, welcome to the white house. just happens to be a work criminal within the rest war and how for him by the i c c. and so it does affect the question, why is the trunk perfectly happy that off work attends from federal funds yet continues to fund is really government. and i think the fact is, the us,

we all know, i think can agree will not be occupying garza and donald trump and jared questionnaire won't be building any resorts there. but in one sense, i'm kind of glad there. i say to see trump announced these plans so. ready open me so plainly instead of pretending to care about palestinians as many other us presidents have done that preceded him while simultaneously enabling their ethnic cleansing and genocide, which of course violates international law. but also pilots u. s. law as well, you know, and also ramsey. it's very interesting is that, so this whole approach, 1st of all, all of us have been very critical, critical of the so called to state solution, which we have heard for decades, which are just mouth by western politicians. but now with comes a pronouncement, even though his administration's walking a back a little bit, it's the overton window is open. it's widened. okay. is that, you know, they, the ethnic cleansing is, is us policy right now?

and what it does is, this is an attempt by walking away from the so called 2 state solution. it is an attempt, and we've seen this before to erase palace palestinians as a national identity. go ahead ramsey. and this is the policy that the americans have sponsored from the day that you start to there's no point in history as the u . s. government, any u. s. administration of as the champion and palestinian identity or palestinian sovereignty and all of that then no matter what is what has done or do they do, the americans will always maintain that position. but think about this way, they are talking about, oh well, you know, let's just clean up the mess them this going to get the gardens out in 15 years because come back what, maybe some of them don't, this damage the initiative or this is the initiative and the power back in the hands of the americans. and this is what i feel like the fear that many, many of us many palestinians outside outside does,

doesn't mind you are experiencing is, is unrealistic. because the fact is, for 471 days pushed back. and that's all the i guess is what you meant to tell me. but it gives the worst of intelligence that gives american arguments against italian, german, french, and british course abuses. that is what you have to decide the entire western world of food in both sides to the device in world war 2 filed of gauze and this still fail. so what can mr from the real estate mobile can do to see the dynamics that last is for nearly 500 years ago the victoria's despite to deal with the price, ordinary gauze is paid for that victory. but really think that much. so this is psychological because now everybody is paying attention to come back and give him the reps, the i'm not a good the you don't do this. this is crazy. do use would not use would not to

carry on with such language and so on. and so forth, put the power back in from 10 to power is actually in the hands of the palestinians . and it has always been in the hands of putting it all a. it's good to you and very rude to mean a be a question that has not been brought up about it least up front and center is this also gives a green light for netanyahu. and in his a government to continue their growing genocide in the west bank because it's the, it's dispersing displacing all palestinians, not just gaza, but all. and that is left on spoken here. go ahead and be root. a penalty that does it does encourage rush behavior on the part of nothing. you know, i think that westbank in particular is an important issue. remember that, um uh, toms appointee. his choice for the best that the history on is mike huckabee mike

huckabee stance is on the west side well known and they very much align with smoke friction blended up here and uh trumps and bus that are to the year when will so stephanie, so you have a number of right wing figures within this administration while very much in agreement with the smoke friction with the copier and with these brand new ultra right. so based upon that, i think there was a real possibility that donald trump might extend his approach will give his blessing good for. i'd like to some kind of he's really in depth or in the west bank. we heard him saying that um, in about 4 weeks, he's going to make his announcements about where the weather wrote to annex the west bank quote, to announce that he supports his rate is offering to the west bank. i am suspecting that um trump is going to give nothing, you know pretty much what he wants when it comes to palestine bought in exchange for that. i think that on the sure the wrong. what i mean to say here was the trump

has we heard any statements, he's not going to be, he wants to deal with the wrong. so he might get nothing. no, i won't say what he wants in public story. it's strange for nothing. you know, turning it down when it comes to where they're wrong, i don't encourage any escalation with the wrong or i think that off to the press conference off that the statements we heard during the nothing here who is visit it appears that might be the trump middle east policy, you know, i said it's really interesting. i mean, again, because it's my job, i have to look at what media says. all media has to say, and in western media, they would never one. so it's a question. ask what, what, what, what happens when the palestinians say no, we're not interested in this deal, but question is never posed to western audiences ever. ok, man, i know it's true and i, you know, i think that it's important when we, we talk about trump and, and his, his in the edict things he says, which are obviously meant to manipulate, not just the new media,

but create some chaos. you know, give someone a leverage to 9 yahoo and normalize some of the most extreme is parts of the zionist ideology. but i do want to say, you know, let's not forget that bite and, and the bite and administration was exploring this very same option of pushing the palestinians out, academically, cleansing them in late 2023. i kind of want to echo with them as he said, because i think, you know, the addiction regime of course didn't tolerate. it, didn't accept it. but the language that by didn't use was, you know, softer as it is often with democrats. he called it a humanitarian corridor. you know, there's all these euphemisms for pushing the palestinians into the sine i desert. but tear point peter. where was the sort of the moral conviction, an outrage that we've seen in display in the media, and then the whole is a power in dc with cost and peach trump over ethnic cleansing. where was that during the last 1516 months under by then when billions of dollars of weapons were being sent. when, you know, now we know more than 70000 palestinians murdered almost 100000 tons of

weapons. more than dressed in more than here. a shima where it was about, i mean, not to me peter, the real scandal here might be simply that trumpet. sing our right, whatever us present and before him has done endorsed and upheld just without the mask of pretence. and when it comes to the question about where to the palestinian stand and all this, i mean, it is kind of appalling and really beyond shameful. it's seen how palestinians are not being, are raised only through genocide and have the kinds of things that are raised even in the equation of determining their fate. i don't know that point. i have to jump in here gentlemen, we have to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion. i've got to stay with our team. the, the,

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you and music on. so not of us that just for the back of the cisco on top of the field of worship. mean. so there's a slight because i see a guy and you said us, the supplies of the oysters flame a sort of she knew was like, you strong enough listen to the physical not so the the welcome at the cross. ok, we're all things are considered. i'm peter real about your mind you were discussing godsa the . okay, let's go back to our guess now ramsey in in seattle here. awesome. it was saying at the end of the 1st part of the program, i'll use my word, but the continuity that we see through administrations here. trump is a compass,

trump, he's an oddity a and he's be, he's turning into a historic figure maybe in for not for the right reasons that i tend to think that's true. but you know, he's using real estate as a cover most other presidents, a humana, terry. and it's over democracy, all this other stuff that we've gotten so tired of here, but the, the outcome is exactly the same. there is a continuity from biden to do to drum comes just more open about it. and he thinks he's actually doing humanity a favor by moving these people to like a motel 6 around the corner in a eminent domain style here. and. and that's a cover that's a cover for genocide and his it. and if he will, they move forward with his plan as well, whatever it is, how you got a formulated. it also essentially means the genocide continues a mr digit. indigenous stock has been taking business and id and both the 8 and

south as early as 1953. if i remember correctly, it was when the americans were pushing for the so called roger plans. and that's the idea of pushing, you know, the palestinians out of gaza through the same night. doesn't the feel because if i'm assuming as a garza refused to, to do it again and 1967 under the, the that you know, in class. and again, in the early 19 seventy's under the sharon class. and none of these plans have work now that trump is fine to be clever about it and trying to give it some sort of up to you minute tell you. i saw the end of the day, it makes no difference. it also makes no difference for palestinians who and i have been in situations as part of the city as being fired out or, or living under is a, be a bombs. it doesn't matter to us whether these bones are being provided by a democratic administration or by the public and administration at the end of the

deal, or american bombs. and it's just american sustained julia site. so this is the reality of it. i'm assuming is i'm not buying into it. i photo social media but includes me from gaza and most people are just making fun of the notions or just creating all of these incredible comedy and the notion of, from the trying to do what is what has failed to do. of course, to be to 6th or 7th decided yes, if i can just it back into something that rumsey mentioned there. i mean, for 76 years, i see says israel's tried to forcibly displeased palestinians, and even 16 months of genocide with complete diplomatic cover in god the they've failed. and the reason they failed, just to really emphasize this from doesn't understand that this is what indigenous people do. yeah, they remain on the land because the land is not just where they happen to live. it's not a condo, it's who they are. and you know, when we see more than 70 percent of the victims of israel's genocide being women

and children, that is by design, that is not an accident. that is to prevent further generations. that's what i need, which they're waging this war. and lastly, i just want to say as far as that it gets, trump can appear. what we saw in the last few days and this week is the white house press. secretary insist that the real evil per word isn't that us in israel turning on guys us turning it into an unbelievable wasteland. but in genocide is not the evil but that surviving the genocide and insisting whether the palestinians themselves insist or others that they remain in their homeland the that somehow is the real evil. i mean to green light, the bombs fund, the destruction, and then act shocked when the result looks like a post apocalyptic wasteland. i mean the words, the admissions. i mean that not so bright. to put it lightly. white house press secretary admitted that israel using us weapons,

has made gaza. i'm it happened. oh no, no, no, they didn't, they didn't admitted. that's what that's what's really amazing. if you look at the rhetoric coming out of the press score and the white house and trump and then yeah, so it sounds like a natural disaster hit the place. they never mention how it was turned into rubble . and the 1st light is the know what the world knows. the greed ali it trump is repeatedly said that countries like jordan and egypt are on board the saudis. remarkably, this, the saudi foreign ministry at 4 o'clock in the morning that somebody was agitated, came out and said, now there must be a palestinian state. what is trump talking about? i mean, does he have that kind of leverage? i mean, both states, jordan and egypt are very fragile places. they're under america's thumb, can, can come get his way. ali a symbol. i think that when from spoke these words, they weren't very carefully considered hardly. even some of these pains weren't

aware of what he was going to say. uh, so he didn't get much thought i'd say to the repercussions what the impact of what he said on that this is what trump blogs for the way you know. he promotes the madman theory by non from unpredictable person. and i think he's enjoying of the attention which is being given to these statements regardless of whether or not the plan is going to be far from or not. and it has to be a question. i think egypt and jordan will be, will categorically rejected any such proposals because this one threatening the very existence of these got been seen both these 2 countries set a ravia as well. i think you can say goodbye to any possibility for normalization. with history on shore to trump follow through on his plan. so there are many, many major obstacles which could prevent from uh, from doing it, hey adults have leverage with these countries, but they also,

i think have blackbridge, which they can use. now, our country is usually don't use the leverage against the americans at this time because they have very existence, the security of the governments will be at stake. it might lead to a change of the bar. the way these country is that they come in and they become closer to although he, during political rivals like russia and china. so i think should um, trump squeeze these nations that could very well be very damaging to your with interest and leave the us to losing some very valuable allies just quickly about the continuity between administrations and the, the, by the ministration picked up where trump left off with you, hey, we're having to pause and try them also to mobilize tories between the saudis and the use rate is how it will be a pun successfully. so there was a continuance and i think that um, but the proposal put forward by trump was just an unconventional language which we

saw before, which was used by other demonstrations of hair, maybe using a soft a ton. one final point is that this isn't good policy for the us. it's not good for you with reason, interest, and it's also not politics because or to remember according to recent opinion, polls, cumberland, harris, the main reason she lost, that's right. was my demonstrations were on go so. so trump isn't doing it himself . i think any good if you were to follow through on this plan. yeah, been around so it was really was interesting again, the optics of watching the 2 leaders in the white house sitting together, trumpets taking on all of the risk and that's in yahoo takes no risk at all. i find it very strange, a strat. i mean, he's a business man, that's a very strange business strategy. go ahead, ramsey as well. i mean it, think about it based on how is he but we get particular reporting on this. nothing

. he a whole goes as a field leader who's even battled in his own country. the military is in tatters, is a big, big problem as well, politically and militarily. and he called us back at 5 pm sent to me that we'd be via an all the, you know, of thinking about to be joining the government again. this is the gift up front, but the so temporary gift of bethany, who built the sense of try it before when he killed muscle, when, when they killed the other kind of sidney and, and everybody's leaders of the old was feel that temporary sense of victory. but it disappears quite quickly, but what we have actually benefited from this is that this sense of ownership, i think is very important. and then you'll raise the question about the media. the way the media is handling this issue is what is the deal that we owe on display? so we owe on this concept the way the top space of ownership. you speaks about the real estate point to view what american politicians and, and, and, and, and jo strategist actually don't thing can be done because the sign in front,

the rest of the middle east is this. the difference is that from speaks about it in a very cool sense of colonialism. the way that the, the belgians under king, the vehicle perceived that the, for example, this is ours. we will sold it out. and so when someone needs to tell the americans that the world has changed, you are no longer living these days of you don't have all the keys and you cannot control and the, the face of gaza anymore, nor the face of the amenities, you know, awkward one of it's very creepy, it's cringe things about netanyahu's visit. he gave a page here to trump is very publicly that's so cringed as they be. that means something to people like our ourselves that in, in the region in the middle east itself. but, you know, all around the world that is one of the most terrific things you can do. it's almost like almost never use this word. it's almost just evil. no,

it would be under being evil. it's normal. i mean, let's call it what it is. it's normalizing terrorism just like the media celebrated . uh, what this form is, the i a director clearly called the master event and 11 on when, you know israel did explode all those pages and killed many, many civilians. and then in addition to some resistance fighters, i do just want to say on that note it should also be noted and said very plainly, the netanyahu himself is playing with fire. he's humiliated america this week. he made trunk look like his servant, quite frankly. and the mainstream media to you earlier points that can spin it all the like. but the american people are slowly waking up to the fact that no matter which party wins, as has been said on this program. somehow israel always stays in charge and i think the american people are actually much like all of us growing tired of this reality . i mean the crime that trump declared, so probably in plainly let's just be, you know, legal about it. it's a crime born out of imperial lawlessness,

but it's the crime of force displacement. and you know, when you permanently drive and indigenous population off their homeland and mass scale and you replaced it with the settlers. perhaps that might speak to americas origin story to a genocide, but i may be a whole host of other nations, but we all know that beyond it being morally reprehensible. i think right now it's a litmus test for the 100. well, i yeah, but i'll come in and have to end on this note here. and the entire western civilizational experiment is on trial here and it's failing, it's failing very badly. and donald trump will be its head figure if things continue the way they are gentlemen. that's all the time we have a want to thank my guess in seattle to buy and, and be rude. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our see, see you next time. remember across the the,

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