well, that's the hello and welcome to cross ok. we're all things are considered. i'm peter live out . trump promised to shop the system and he is. he has declared war against the us government threatened friends, info, a like with a tear of war. and now is personally decided to reorder the middle east palestinians and guys have faced more force displacement and ethnic cleansing the cross. i think guys, i'm joined by my guess, ramsey my route in seattle. he is

a palestinian author and journalist in dubai. we have, i've made a lean, he is an investigative emmy, nominated journalist and, and be route we cross the alley risk. he is a security and political affairs analyst. i drilled in costs. ok, rules and effect. that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate, i'm going to go to ramsey 1st because he got up early as for this program, much appreciated audience always appreciates when you are on the program ramsey, we reflecting on what we heard on tuesday, which is world historic for any number of reasons. here, but one kind of almost go test and take away from trump, claiming he will own guides essentially, i guess and next it, i mean the words were very nebulous and when pressed by a very feeble press, he would not answer. i want to talk about media reaction in a moment, but rather than using a real estate deal is a substitute for a political solution. how bad can you get to get this situation go ahead,

ramsey as well. this is very, very bad, but it's also has a context of this is not the 1st time that americans, especially on from the side, talk about the real estate, the 14. it is a way to move them in in, in uh garza and is the 1st on such references as the riviera. give me the east. i mean, the 1st of all is that the one for the one carlo gave me these that was doing the also, of course the very objective cautionary spoke a repeatedly about the real estate opportunities waiting for them at the gaza closed. but just to say these things after you actually join inside the extermination of the palestinian people, were somewhat like benjamin that any of these are the apartment. and so it's fugitive running from the law and they'll come and you had that fuel to fight or that is beyond any other find that we ever seen in the middle east. it really shows

such as the responsible steve craft. and it took completely away from any credibility from mike to gathered for himself, claiming that he is indeed the one who put the pressure on them. yeah, i'll just stop the war. well, yeah, i'll quit. it's also very interesting is that, as we've all agreed, we've heard these phrases from his son in law. but now it's the state policy. this is the policy of the united states. it's not as a reference, you know, wouldn't be good if we did, they'll. now this is policy here and what it is and again to many people in the west, the want to admit it is that the united states is turning into the guarantor of a genocide in palestine. the most certainly, i mean i have to say i was certainly not shocked, but i did think i was hallucinating at one point watching donald trump say palestinians most i'd be a awesome at i had to watch it twice. i had to was to be honest. and regardless of

how many times you watch it, i mean admitting guy that has and i quote, been turned into hell while sitting next to the grinning devil who turned it into hell. and of course, he was only able to do so. and then yahoo, that is using american weapons and unrelenting diplomatic cover. so you know, a complete and total display of hedge, a monic hubris. and, and let's just take a quick step back. i mean, it's important to know that the 1st world leader, the new us president, welcome to the white house. just happens to be a work criminal with an arrest warrant have for him by the i c c. and so it does affect the question, why is the trunk perfectly happy that off work i can from federal funds? yeah, continues to fund is really government and i think the fact is the us we all know, i think can agree will not be occupying garza and donald trump and jared questionnaire won't be building any resorts there. but in one sense, i'm kind of glad there. i say to see trump announced these plans so. ready open me

so plainly instead of pretending to care about palestinians as many other us presidents have done that preceded him while simultaneously enabling their ethnic cleansing and genocide, which of course violates international law. but also pilots u. s. law as well, you know, and also ramsey. it's very interesting is that this whole approach, 1st of all, all of us have been very critical, critical of the so called to state solution which we have heard for decades, which are just mouth by western politicians. but now with crumbs a pronouncement, even though his administration's walking a back a little bit, it's the overton window is open. it's widened. okay. is that, you know, the, the ethnic cleansing is, is us policy right now. and what it does is, this is an attempt by walking away from the so called 2 state solution. it is an attempt, and we've seen this before to erase palace palestinians as

a national identity. go ahead ramsey. and this is a policy that the americans have sponsored from the day that you start to this new point in history as the u. s. government and a u. s. administration of ashley champion and palestinian identity or palestinian sovereignty and all of that. and no matter what is what has done or do they do that, americans would always maintain that position. but think about it this way. they are talking about, oh well, you know, let's just clean up the mess them this going to get the gardens out 1015 years because come back or maybe some of them don't. this damage the initiative or this is the initiative and the power back in the hands of the americans. and this is what i feel like the fear that many, many of us, many pundits demands outside outside does. doesn't mind you are experiencing is, is, is, is unrealistic. because the fact is, for 471 days pushed back. and that's all the i guess is what you me to tell you.

but it gives the worst of intelligence that gives american arguments against italian, german, french, and british course abuses that is what introduced like the entire western world of sold in both sides of the divide in world war 2 filed of gauze and the still fail. so what can mr. from the real estate mobile can do to achieve the dynamics that lasted for nearly 500 years, and garza emerged victorious despite the rest of the price. ordinary gauze is paid for the victory. but the thing that much will, this is psychological because now everybody is paying attention to come back and give them the are ups the i heard a good the you don't do this, this is crazy. do use would not use would not to carry on with such language and so on and so forth. put the power back in from time to power is actually in the hands of the palestinians. and it has always been in the hands of it all

a it's good to you and very rude to mean a be a question that has not been brought up about it least up front and center is this also gives a green light for netanyahu. and in his a government to continue their growing genocide in the west bank because it's the, it's dispersing displacing all palestinians, not just gaza, but all. and that is left on spoken here. go ahead and be root. as indeed it does. it does a card to rush to have your own. the pots have nothing. you know, i think that westbank in particular is an important issue. remember that, um uh, toms appointee. his choice for a bus that the history on is mike huckabee mark huckabee sense is on the west bank well known and they very much align with smoke friction blended up here. and uh, trump side by side or to the year when will so stephanie. so you have

a number of right wing figures within this administration who are very much in agreement with the smoke patient with ben copier and with use brand new ultra right . so based upon that, i think there was a real possibility that donald trump might extend his approach or giving his blessing before i'd like to or some kind of bridge really. and that are in the west bank. we've heard him say that um, in about 4 weeks, he's going to make his announcements about where the weather up to and next to westbank code to announce that he supports his ready self warranty or the west bank . i am suspecting that um trump is going to get nothing, you know pretty much what he wants when it comes to palestine bought in exchange for that. i think that on the he sure the wrong. what i mean to say here was the trump has we heard any statements, he's not going to be, he wants to deal with the wrong. so he might give nothing to have going to say what he wants in public storage. it's strange for nothing, you know,

turning it down when it comes to where ron had on encouraging escalation with the wrong or i think that off to the press conference off that the statements we heard during the nothing here who is visit it appears that might be the trump middle east policy, you know, i said it's really interesting. i mean, again, because it's my job, i have to look at what media says. all media has to say and in western media, they would never one. so it's a question asked what, what, what, what happens when the palestinians say no, we're not interested in this deal, but question is never posed to western audiences ever. ok med, i know it's true and i, you know, i think that it's important when we, we talk about trump and, and his, his in the edict things he says, which are obviously meant to manipulate, not just the media, but create some chaos. you know, give some real leverage to non yahoo and normalize some of the most extreme is parts of the zionist ideology. but i do want to say, you know, let's not forget the bite and,

and the bite and administration was exploring this very same option of pushing the palestinians out, academically, cleansing them in late 2023. i kind of want to echo at them as he said, because i think, you know, the addiction redeem, of course, didn't tolerate it, didn't accept it. but the language that by them used was, you know, softer as it is often with democrats. he called it a humanitarian quarter. you know, there's all these euphemisms for pushing the palestinians into the sign. i desert. but to your point peter, where was the sort of the moral conviction, an outrage that we've seen in display in the media. and then the halls of power and dc with cost and peach trump over after the cleansing. where was that? during the last 1516 months under bite, and when billions of dollars of weapons were being sent. when you know now we know more than 70000 palestinians murdered almost 100000 tons of weapons. more than dressed in more than here. a shima where it was not. i mean that to me peter, the real scandal here might be simply that trumpet. sing our right,

whatever us present in before him has done endorsed and upheld just without the mask of pretense. and when it comes to the question about where to the palestinian stand and all this, i mean, it is kind of appalling and really beyond shameful. it's seen how palestinians are not being raised only through genocide and ethnic cleansing that are raised even in the equation of determining their fate. i don't know that point. i have to jump in here gentlemen, we have to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on gods and stay with our team. the, the,

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the state on the russians cruising and split the ortiz full neck, even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube tv services. what question did you say, even closer to the today, we're going to involved in a real finish up in the south west. the public has come up, dean of both colorado. it's announced. it has to be just in the caucasus popular among nate syllabus for it's absolutely breathtaking views, but also a general engine which is probably $63.00 schools. so let's get stuck in the, the, we are not only at the trash world of media being international relations,

but also instrumental because if you look back to the, let's say 3000 to use the different many people in all aspects, from economy to military, to health etc, but not often they will, once they're in such an effective step we have witnessed within the last 10 years the the, the welcome back to across ok, we're all things are considered. i'm peter le, about your mind. you were discussing godsa the okay, let's go back to our guest ramsey and in seattle here. awesome. it was saying at the end of the 1st part of the program, i'll use my word, but the continuity that we see through administrations here. trump is a compass,

trump, he's an oddity. uh and he's, he's turning into a historic figure, maybe in for not for the right reasons. and i tend to think that's true. but, you know, he's using real estate as a cover. most other presidents, i humanitarian, it's of our democracy, all this other stuff that we've gotten so tired of here, but the, the outcome is exactly the same. there is a continuity from biden to do to trump comes just more open about it. and he thinks he's actually doing humanity a favor by moving these people to like a motel 6 around the corner in an eminent domain style here. and. and that's a cover that's a cover for genocide and his it. and if he will, they move forward with his plan as well, whatever it is, how you got a formulated. it also essentially means the genocide continues a mr digit. indigenous stock has been taking business 1948 and felt as early as

1953. if i remember correctly, it was when the americans were pushing for the so called roger pans. and that's the idea of pushing, you know, the palestinians out of gaza through the sign desert, the field because of and this to me as a garza refused to, to do it. and again, and i did 67 under the, the, the, you know, in class. and again in the early 19 seventy's under the sharon class. and none of these bands have work. now that trump is trying to be clever about it and trying to give it some sort of a few minutes. so you saw the end of the day. it makes no difference. it also makes no difference for palestinians who um and i have been is if you wish, as part of the city as being fired out or, or living under is a, be a bombs. it doesn't matter to us whether these bones are being provided by a democratic administration or by the public and administration at the end of the big old american bombs. and it's just an american sustained junior site. so this is

the reality of it. and this thing is, i'm not buying into an iphone or social media, but it goes to be from gaza. and most people are just making fun of the notion or just creating all of these incredible comedy and the notion of from trying to do what is what it has to be on to do. of course, to be to 6 or $7.00 to $7.00. yes. if i can, just, if i can just find something that rumsey mentioned there, i mean for 76 years. as he says, israel's tried to forcibly displeased palestinians. and even 15 months of genocide with complete diplomatic cover in gaza, they failed. and the reason they failed, just to really emphasize this from doesn't understand that this is what indigenous people do. yep. they remain on the land because the land is not just where they happen to live. it's not a condo, it's who they are. and you know, when we see more than 70 percent of the victims of israel's genocide being women

and children, that is by design, that is not an accident. that is to prevent further generations best, right? we need to which there waging this war. and lastly, i just want to say, as far as pathetic as trump can appear, what we saw in the last few days and this week is the white house press. secretary insist that the real evil per word isn't that us in israel turning on gaza, turning it into an unbelievable wasteland. but genocide is not the evil but that surviving the genocide and insisting whether the palestinians themselves insist or others that they remain in their homeland. that somehow is the real evil. i mean, to green light, the bombs fund, the destruction, and then act shocked when the result looks like a post apocalyptic wasteland. i mean the words, the admissions. i mean that not so bright. to put it lightly. white house press secretary admitted that israel using us weapons, has made god's uninhabited. oh no, no, no. but they didn't. they didn't admitted. that's what that's what's really amazing

. if you look at the rhetoric coming out of the press corps and the white house and trump and then yeah, so it sounds like a natural disaster hit the place. they never mention how it was turned into rubble . and the 1st light is the know what the world knows. the greed ali you trump is repeatedly said that countries like jordan and egypt are on board the saudis. remarkably this, the saturday for and ministry at 4 o'clock in the morning that somebody was agitated, came out and said, no, there must be a palestinian state. what is trump talking about? i mean, does he have that kind of leverage? i mean, both states said jordan and egypt, they're very fragile places. they're under america's thumb, can, can come get his way ali a symbol. i think that when trump spoke these words, they weren't very carefully considered hardly. even some of these pains weren't aware of what he was going to say. uh, so he didn't give much thought, i think,

to the repercussions what the impact of what you said on that this is what trump blogs for the way you know, he promotes the mad man theory, not a problem, predictable person. and i think he's enjoying of the attention which is being given to these statements regardless of whether or not the plan is going to be far from or not. and to enhance the real question, i think egypt and jordan will be, will categorically rejected any such proposals because this for preston, the very existence of these got been seen both these 2 countries set a ravia as well. i think you can a st. goodbye to any possibility for normalization with his royal shooting, trump follow through on his plan. so there are many, many major obstacles which could prevent from uh from doing it. hey, adults have leverage with these countries. but they also, i think, have let bridge,

which they can use. now, our country is usually don't use the leverage against the americans at this time because they have very existence, the security of the governments will be at stake. it might lead them to a change of the bar the way this country is that they come in and they become closer to although he jeer political arrivals like russia and china. so i think should um, trump squeeze these nations that could very well be very damaging to your with interest and leave the us to losing some very valuable allies just quickly about the continuity between administrations and the, the, by the demonstration picked up. we're trump less talk with you, hey, we're having the phones in troy and also to mobilize tories between the saudis and the x rays will be on successfully. so there was a continue with tech, and i think that um, but the proposal put forward by trump was just an unconventional language which we

saw before, which was used by other demonstrations. so there might be using a soft a ton. one final point is that this is a good policy for the us. it's not good for you. what's the reason of interest? and it's also not politics. because i remember, according to recent opinion, polls kinda like harris, the main reason she lost. that's right was why didn't him instructions were on go so. so trump isn't doing it himself. i think any good if you were to follow through on this plan? yeah. been around so it was really was interesting again, the optics of watching the 2 leaders in the white house sitting together companies taking on all of the risk and that's in yahoo takes no risk at all. i find it very strange, a strat. i mean, he's a business man, that's a very strange business strategy. go ahead, ramsey as well. i mean it, think about it based on how is he, but we get particular reporting on this and that's in the a whole goes as a field leader who's in a bad told in his own country. the military is in tatters,

is a big, big problem as well, politically and militarily. and he called us back at 5 pm sent to me that we'd be via an all the, you know, of thinking about to be joining the government again. this is the gift of trump, but these are temporary gifts of bethany, a wholesale, just the sense of try it before when he comes in as little when, when, because the other kind of study and, and everybody's leaders of the always feel that temporary sense of victory but it disappears quite quickly, but what we have actually benefited from this is that this sense of ownership. i think it's very important then you'll raise the question about the media. the way the media is handling this issue is what it is. i've done the deal that we owe on display, so we own discomfort the way the been taught, speak some ownership. he speaks about this on the real estate point to view what american politicians and, and, and, and, and jo strategist actually don't thing can be done because i'm not as not as of the

rest of the middle east. is this the 1st is that from speaks about it in a very cool sense of colonialism. the way that the, the belgians under king, the vehicle perceived the of the code. for example, this is ours. we will sold it out as to which someone needs to tell the americans that the world has changed. you are no longer living these days if you don't have all the keys and you cannot control and the, the physical goes it any more nor to think of the amenities, you know, awkward one of those. very creepy. it's cringe things about nothing. yeah. who has visited, gave a page here to trump very publicly that. so create in just a b. that means something to people like our ourselves, that in, in the region in the middle east itself. but you know, all around the world that is one of the most terrific things you can do. it's almost like, almost never use this word. it's almost just evil. no, it would be beyond being evil. it's normal. i mean,

let's call it what it is. it's normalizing terrorism, just like the media celebrated what this form is, the i a director, clearly called the master event and loved and on when, you know, israel did exploded all those pages and killed many, many civilians. and then in addition to some resistance fighters, i do just want to say on that note it should also be noted and said very plainly, the netanyahu himself is playing with fire. he humiliated america this week. he made trunk look like his serve. and quite frankly, and the main stream media to you earlier points that can spin at all the like. but the american people are slowly waking up to the fact that no matter which party wins as has been set on this program, somehow is ro, always stays in charge. and i think the american people are actually much like all of us growing tired of this reality. i mean the crime that trump declared, so probably in plainly let's just be, you know, legal about it. it's a crime born out of imperial lawlessness. but it's the crime of force displacement

and you know, when you permanently drive and indigenous population off their homeland in mass scale. and you replace that with settlers. perhaps that might speak to america's origin story to a genocide, but i may be a whole host of other nations, but we all know that beyond it being morally reprehensible. i think right now it's a litmus tests for the 100. well, i yeah, but i'll come in and have to end on this note here. and the entire western civilizational experiment is on trial here and it's failing, it's failing very badly. and donald trump will be its head figure if things continue the way they are gentlemen. that's all the time we have a one, it's like my guess in seattle, dubai, and in bay road. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our see, see you next time. remember across the the

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