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or the, i'm actually understand, see, and welcome back to going underground, broadcasting all around the world from the u. a. in the heart of a, me least stunned into understanding what is reading the usa of long had in store for palestine wheel. donald trump's national security advisor, mike will be fine. does he already be inside? saudi arabia was swift to attack drums planned to ethnically cleanse guys, even though it was in the middle of the night. saturday time when the us president sitting beside israel, is netanyahu. so to defacto destabilize, egypt and jordan with millions of refugees as expected, vassal states in europe with no suffering with muted but trumps. erroneous claim
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that saudi arabia no longer thinks the palestinian states also and good china, russia and they to remember turkey. this is trump facilitated ukraine bombing of russia, bomb somalia, and signed it ordered to approve bombing iran. will that in a week that good be so a trump uprooting the c i a and shelving the globally destructive u. s. a. i the agency that he a veteran kind of lawrence wilkinson is in full judge virginia. he was chief of staff with the us state department now led by monica rubio. when nato power has invaded the rock, kind of thank so much for coming on right off the top. i suppose i better ask you this bible relief about usa id. what you thought of that press conference in the white house with the alleged wall criminal netanyahu? the trump gave way outlined, possible ethnic cleansing route for gaza, or frankly, i didn't think that i could be in the future stand by anything but look, curio bombastic character donald trump said, but i was, this is,
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this is just such a flagrant violation of the read space to order, if you will, that we fashion, particularly the international law part of it. there's just stunning, absolutely starting. i think this special effort to her all the needs said correctly, if you wanted to break every law possible to be broken, you did. except while you ins measure up or to or i'll give you the fail to create disease 5. and i know i get criticized with the left is if i'm some trump supports it. yeah. it was trump that allowed the children of guys have to sleep for the 1st time up to 15 months with that aerial bombardment, m is the genocide. and of course, some people to kindly looking on this as saying now is real cars start up the bombing image, these different processes of the ceasefire agreement? because it's the united states land now was this wasn't
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a humanitarian gesture by drawing this really strictly transactional, to get to the jury cushion or dream of a gaza with hotels trump, hotels, probably, and other assets that trump likes featured on the mediterranean. say this has nothing to do with humanitarian instincts or empathy or seem to be even. and now we're seeing the reality of it. i think the reality of it, however, is the military professional. i have to tell you is not only reasonable, it's extremely dangerous as well if it really was jared questionnaire and a bank of trump's idea. as you imply, there it is reasonable because there's no way i mean you might have to remind or what he is. what exactly he said as regards we, he didn't really loud us troops on the ground to god this perhaps future trump hotel projects in gaza. but while saying that the 2000000 people in guys of which somehow became 1.81.6000000, i don't know whether that was an admission that half
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a 1000000 to being wiped out by british american european union on bombing over the past 15 months. but some of the us troops are going on the ground there. um i go back to colon barrel statement to me on a number of occasions throughout about a decade period. putting us forces on the ground in a lot, in a serious for portion that is to say, not just did air force spaces and pass through facilities as we're having to wait. but on a serious basis, war fighting capable basis would be the greatest mistake the united states could make with regard to boulevard, and possibly with regard to its global position period. oh wow. is right. you do not. and h w bush actually said this to in the presence of his then sector defense. richard cheney, you do not saw me enter that calls or will not put us forces on the ground there to
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stay because all they will be is a disaster waiting to happen. yeah, so i mean, yeah, they would also cost trillions of dollars and it's all going to happen then. and so some other, the other huge question. huge question re, dexter phil cans. just released article in the new yorker magazine. a huge question . where is he going to get these american troops? he's already given northern command, a warning order to seal the southern border. given 3 army divisions, at least for gauge of 2 and a whole division was attempt mountain orders to go to the southern border. those troops could only cover maybe a 100 kilometers that of that border. there's 3150 kilometers. is that border? where is he going to get these american soldiers? we don't have a draft. we have a volunteer force. it's falling apart, even as i speak is the extra tokens article points out graphic like where is he
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going to get these forces? is he going to hire private contractors like i understand right now, and i have video freeze of it apparently from a person who was walking along with the palestinians, who were you for it even though they were passing through the and as room for in the devastation into a more skate they were you for about going home and on their flights were american hired security contractors, making sure the israelis didn't take advantage of the passage and to even thousands more. so where are we going to get these 4 c? so you go to higher, higher eric prince and a bunch of private contractors. this is a disaster waiting to happen and dollars by actually doing it from the oval office, but avenue on. so yourself, you said these transactional, it called happened. the troops aren't going to be back guiding you the trump investments that the american people want to go for that. so if it is transactional, it will be with the wrong information being provided to him from like waltz perhaps
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because as you say that he understand. i mean, when he go dealing, my goals has gone when he realizes the, well, it's presumably is the guy telling him, saudi arabia is fine with no palestinian state. i mean, it was very, very late. the release time for the far enough as to bob, what are the saudi arabians going, what are you talking about? basically an immediate response to this outrage all around here. and uh, well, it's presumably telling him the palestinians. they don't want to return, they shouldn't return. when it was on, hundreds of thousands have been returning over the past few days to know them guys, it's all wrong. information is being fed. the word is on the street this morning early about 7 am. the vaults has gone. i don't know if that's accurate, but that's the word on the street. when that is, or then date, there's a history of a national security advisers going quickly. we had john bolton on the other week, of course, and hope to get my clear and who was the 1st one. so that should hopefully
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signal that trump reacts very quickly to uh when he's being made a fool out of i would think, so i said earlier, right after the election that there wouldn't be a single one. if they did pass, go with the senate and, and get confirmed there wouldn't be a single one that is major cabinet appointees or reasonable facsimile sac tax. emily's or all that last is not much at all. we go that's donald trump, at least. so he said that ron was not a in a week position, so i'm allowed claiming to buy administrator and for that on like what say, lindsey graham and bizarre of people in your congress is talk about when they, with respect to iran and the, the possibility of an invasion you're on is just sign that russia deal, you know, with just show the military cooperation with the run has been showing of new weaponry. that at least looks off the table. it's just going to be greater way to
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sanctions. although trump obviously hasn't been told about bricks and let's say where i'm talking to you from the you a is now part of a system, a new new grouping with a run. i think that's the one thing that i would say is fairly assured in my mind, at least the trump is a gaze, is a us use of force or real force against the wrong. i'm taking out an occasional earning and as he did with the r g. c is one thing. but taking on our honors quite another i think he's been given the whole breezing by different people or different types or and depending on how desperate the circumstance that would great in the united states. not just because we're so roughly short of people in our military. but also because our industrial base is woefully inadequate, we've taken some measures to remedy that, but it's going to take a while is going to take a couple of years before we even begin to get going on that. so we don't need to be
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taking on any more substantial commitments and iran would be a very substantial commitment. 10 years, 2 or 3 trillion dollars, lots of troops of conscription process a draft. in other words, and many young people in america go into canada and mexico, who will be the president has been said by net and yeah, well, you believe it, you actually just in the highlighted place and making uninhabitable rather than actually occupying, you know, taking it over and trump talks about maximum streams using this phrase maximum and then the to the pretty poor journalists, arguably, especially at that. and then, you know, press conference kind of us who will options on the table is a threatening it run with aerial bombardment. as i don't think there's anything that truck won't say as a threat, but i find it very difficult to believe from past experience is 1st term for example, the fall through most of those threats. he is purely transactional. he has no
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entity whatsoever. and very little simplistic, but i don't think he is taking or of the consequences of some of the more drastic actions that they didn't. even he occasionally puts forward and understands what kind of damage it would do to him and then go to re. so i don't think he's going to do anything degrees us in that form, or too many people around him to at least tell him that he's naked on a bob say some of these things. so i just don't think he's got to do something like that. i don't think he likes war at all and i don't think he understands what he's saying. sometimes when he talks about things that those of us who are at least somewhat schooled in it know will probably lead to more, will lead to more p simply doesn't believe that until someone says. so i'm with him with some temerity and courage entails, like, as the pentagon has done repeatedly about or with the wrong. so he's not netanyahu's poodle memory modeled since poodle. i think the yahoo is bar to me.
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i think i've said there's a number of times i think maritime or mall are wrong in terms of a pack, and it's an influence. there's no question that the jewish lobby has influence and significantly on the congress. but israel is our panel. they are doing precisely at various times what we want them to do and have been doing that since 1948 when they started out, there's the british boot also do the reading, got a file of the united states fairly quickly. we took over, it's a very rich and ever since then with the increasing frequency and bloodthirsty news . israel has both been doing our job in the law. and isn't that the point though, that it's so refreshing to have a person like donald trump in the white house, who says it how, how it is rather than was using wiki leaks to release a memo of blinking. i know jake sullivan, the previous national security advisor,
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sending things to hillary clinton telling about kaiser is on the side of united states. he dropped patella's trump patel, the american people of the tax dollars was paying. okay. the yeah, the rafters are off. the disguise has gone down, dropped his exposure very well as an i'll stop you that more from before, which he goes stuff with us stage above. and after this break, the, the trunk promised the shock the system and he is, he has declared war against the us government threatening friends involved a life with a terror for. and now he is personally decided to reorder the middle east
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palestinians and guys have faced more force displacement and ethnic cleansing the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with the lords wilkerson former chief of staff of the us state department kind of, we were talking about the refreshing nature of these uh, some uh, one in the white as being candid county uh, ken from 4th egypt and jordans hand about the $12000000.00 refugees of egypt and jordan and previously always done with washington and told them to can actually do that even though it does cost the stabilize both those countries or he has a lot of leverage on both cairo and a mom more. so on cairo, i understand now this is a fairly low source of the egyptian military would not be paid if it were not for the united states largest going to egypt. i'm sure that is probably even an access
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to the 3.6 or 3700000000. we give them routinely to bribe them to keep the base trade with visual. and for all modeling, it's probably not equivalent amounts, but it's equivalent to fact. so there's a lot of influence, the united states can exercise there, but it only goes so far. i mean, you're talking about the king and i'm on, for example, losing control of these countries. if you know even a 1000000 of those 2 to plus whatever 1000000 garzin suddenly appeared in jordan and added to the already 6 or $7000000.00, he has to look after it'd be an untenable situation for him. so he's going to be forced to make a hard decision, but i suspect you will make it to balance the money with the problem. and that's not going to do anybody and you good, it'll be a half solution if you will. yeah, king of the do in washington and to me jump on tuesday. of course. uh us a id was a big decision. see
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a decisions as well offering to everyone in the c ha, all around the world, the, the offer to reside and get 8 months a salary. i suppose the one i want to get onto you great in a moment. what was your immediate reaction? you might have to remind the audience of some of the greed just things you as a ideas done over the years because most recently the funding of factories about history and china regarding gain a function code with research. but you must have been you must have known us as a id intimately at the state department under uh, uh, calling about. i certainly did. a aid was under andrew not sales at that time. and i washed the transition and transform ation in u. s. a. it wasn't for a mentor organization of fundamentally bureaucrats, civil service and foreign service running development programs in various countries in the world, in accordance with us express policy. to be
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a few of those people. very few of those people managing a horde of private contractors and that's the u. s. aid of today. so frankly, is marco rubio and dollar from want to change that entirely. i would stay in the street in the blog because what that did was turn us aide into a fountain of complicity with intelligence services and other n g o is in quite all groups quite as our government groups who's in tap either known to them or unknown to them because they were infiltrated by the c, i was over throw government. how would you ride samantha power is a bit your see of course as an administrator you as a id, after being a ambassador in the u. n. for your country. i don't think samantha power knew the half before i just said. in fact, there are very few people outside the government center is at work. who know what
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the united states is doing and places like georgia where it is now trying to over throw the georgia dream party, which has a tenuous hold on power and wants to maintain a balance between nato in one direction and moscow in the other. they're trying to overthrow that government. they're working on college or just school in romania, so he won't get elected. they're trying to cast the election against him. so because he's threatened to take romania out of nato, this is what we're doing today all over that region. trying to recruit allies in this vicious struggle that we're behind in ukraine to bleed russia. and we want more l as in doing that, particularly georgia and romania and anybody else mobile that we can get to come into the fight with us at their peril. look at georgia, look at what they didn't do the last time. we tried this with my president who went to policing and stood beside present, been president, soccer civilian, said george, you would be
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a member of nato in the very near future who invited to of cause you and so i'll set you and he still has tension or control over those next time he'll go all the way to the blue sea. yeah, there were referendums there, of course. as the russian say, i think you're crediting too much ignore instead of samantha power. i think i'm going underground. we've been covering usa id massively in the same vein, is national endowment for democracy because you're intimating there with you as a id did in 2014, with the victorian, newland intimate and cool, but i mean, this is great, isn't it? i mean that's one of them. for democracy who can remind their audience what these organizations mean doing is, are gods, not democracy promotion, reducing democracy. meanwhile, the new arm of this be, the new arm is, is a very sophisticated armor. the ca, sometimes they, you know, they are older and there have been objections from time to time, from professionals, within the groups. but most of the time they don't know who they are because
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they've been in sales. right. and sometimes they don't even have to be humans that infiltrate is just the policies on the money that i'm sold rights and the objectives that blow their for all. and so they become an arm of the see. i mean, clearly folks, news and the like, the dollar drum watch is concentrating on the will guide the all the g elements. but it's all because that when he'll a muscle during open the books, he was shocked at the amount of money to the american people realize the scale of the money. well, their own infrastructure and bridges and a basic, a civilian, been all good pictures, corroding, understand how much money they're sending overseas to destroyed democracy in the stabilize countries. the majority of the american people predict over the 77000000 that voted for donald trump and the 90 maybe. and apparently they didn't vote at all. or what i would call with regard to the maintenance of their country and their republic and their security ultimately branded uh for the debt to that. it ranges the gamut from. they don't give
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a damn to they haven't the knowledge nor their education to deal with them. and we're in trouble because of that we have a very, very, an educated public, probably the most fun educated public in the o, e. c. d. countries in the developed countries period. and that contributes mildly to the ability of people like you must j, the benz theatre deal. and peter deal now talking about taking back south africa for white people as it contributes mightily to their ability to put things over on the american people. and to do things that later on there reveal to the light of day, same absolutely mom level believe. and then the american people don't seem to have a whole lot of objections. as long as i doesn't read down personally to their inability to watch taylor swift organ nfl football game or whatever else might still like them. that's what they're really interested in. and i'm not saying that because i'm mad at the american people, i'm saying that because it's a reality,
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it's a stark reality. we have not taken care of our democracy. we are now taking care of of democracy and you pay for that. you pay for the trump got the popular vote and friends to be american people. but then trump also, while uh, trying to an i lady usa, i the saw the talking about the need, the get ukraine's rarer at the metals in a similar vein to real estate in garza, does it have mean that there's a quid pro quo because i mean i know we're both laughing about that, but it's being the lead full week, a for russia. he's be the tacking graham. got to him once i a lindsey graham got to it is all as critical minerals you, you see what's happening instead of laughter right now. these people are killing each other over these critical minerals, goes anybody on bomb from him and pay him top price. so it's not gold or silver or any of those things that the belgians ripped up central africa over. it's now critical miles and those clinical mentos are fundamentally not totally,
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but fundamentally they're in the eastern part of ukraine, which russian now invest. so you've got a problem, donald, if you will, and stop the gradient more and you won't those critical minerals at the same time unless you can talk through it. and then this would be smart. this is the transactional president. you get out of play and you go to moscow, you sit there, what do you work out a deal and then the deal is more work out some provisions for you're getting your share of the critical minutes from there and you don't kill anybody and you stop the war 3 smaller president would do that, but i don't know if we have a pretty smart person. i mean over the dead bodies of the scale of destruction in ukraine. it's unbelievable that such a transactional policy could be even thought about. but there's no doubt trump right now, whether he knows it or not to the military, your 30 year military veteran yourself. the united states has been facilitating what an assassination in russia, a killing attack drones into russia. it's going on. it's still going on. is
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the natural, apparently has a sign, an executive orders error this morning. i haven't seen the executive order, but sign an executive order, the sales, who's posterity, if iran assassinated, seem to bomber on you can make this stuff up. the hollywood director would throw you out of his room and that's what he said at the press conference that the whole of iran would be presumably nuclear bombed. if he was assassinated, which presumably would only be part of the radium policy because he's not allowing it, randa m u k weapons in iran anyway, says they no one does insuring the hard liners in general and just say we do one nuclear weapons. well i watch uh, draws research wireless, few people in the, around the entire. okay. now that i listen to and pay attention to at the dallas on um, when he was being interviewed. i think it was by uh, 3. it's like a, it's
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a car. yeah. and if you read between the lines of was the re said he was saying, we'll do it to you. i'm on president. trump will do it. the a will gave you the deals entry will give you a deal that doesn't have a 25 year sunset. we'll give you a deal where we will at least admit to talking about other issues like our boost and ma'am ballistic missiles and so forth. we'll give you a do, let's do it a and then you can go back to saudi arabia and you can say, you've got a deal or honors not going to be in a power. i assure you the work. and we can go ahead with the elongated extended and much more expensive abraham of sorts that mohammed been solomon has in mind. that's at the bottom of some of this, the trump is talking about with regard to god. but societies are not going to go all of that and he's just walked right in the bus. so if he thinks they are. yeah, and the raining government though, seemingly desperate for this deal because the separating palestine from the j. c. p,
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a new j. c. buick, a nuclear deal, but just find the perhaps the most serious a element of world policy, a nuclear disarmament of, apart from all of these transactional, bizarre will be a dangerous conflict. can we expect the most important element between booge and and trump will be the resumption of some kind of uh, start treaty some kind of treaty to restore a nuclear arms reduction to make live safer. certainly should be. and if i did make that trip to moscow, sit down with the agent. by the way, i'd go back even weight as the landscape. and hope that when i flew back and came over the age he would have been assassinated anyway, i would say to 300, by the way, we're through with this new and pretty much now we need to talk about not just a bilateral treaty in this new girl arms smoothness, but a multi lateral treaty. you drag north korea and,
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and all drag israel in. we need all 9 nuclear weapons opening states to be in this multilateral treaty virginia. and that you and i are going to forge and take the credit for. oh yeah, we can run over to beijing and gives you using, paying a little bit of credit for it too, because we need him also. but let's forge a new treaty environment. that is, you know, pretty, pretty robust and will work. most of the time it leaves and hope the time it doesn't work is not the end of the world. and let's get a handle on these most dangerous weapons, which by the way, you and i possess about 10000. 0, that would be a real old historical achievement and a mark or, or his presidency. i hope you would think that way about it, but i don't know because i don't think his advisors any of think that what was a gab? she could be an exception, right? she could be an exception to larry well, because and thank you. sure. so that's it for the show will be returning to guys on
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monday to further explore the reverberations of u. s. u. k. u, i'm genocide to him to be the by not to about his book being jewish after the destruction of guys a reckoning until then keep in touch with social media of his thoughts, sense of a new a country and a drawing channel going on, going to be hon dot com to let you know that a sense of going underground see monday the,
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[000:00:00;00] the, the, we are not only at the trash world of navy in the international relations, but also instrumental because if you look back to the, let's say 3000 to use the humanity dropped in all aspects from economy to military, to health, etc. but not often they will once they're in such an event, just as we have witnessed within the last 10 years.
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the the good good. i think goes on that. that's good. you're good. yeah. i think we took the same glass that the biggest truck hit by the yeah, i was, i did see a baby. if you can say the desk crowds, that's why i bed nato offices who made this video and ukraine were amazed. they got

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