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the use of instability violence, an extreme is i'm in the region. neither side wants this, at least on the part of palestinians, and the arabs want to try to all things to do for this time. and most of the top of the native the the, i'm ask you understand, see, and welcome back to going underground, broadcasting all around the world from the u. a. in the heart of them, at least stunned into understanding what is reading the usa of long had in store for palestine wheel. donald trump's national security advisor, mike will be fine. does he already be inside?
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saudi arabia was swift to attack transplant to ethnically cleanse guys. i even though it was in the middle of the night, saturday time when the us president sitting beside israel is netanyahu. so to defacto destabilize egypt and jordan with millions of refugees as expected vassal states in europe and no sovereignty muted. but trumps. eroni is claimed that saudi arabia no longer thinks the palestinian states also and good china, russia. and they, to remember tech a. this is trump facilitated ukraine bombing of russia bones, somalia, and signed in order to approve bombing iran will that in a week that i'll be so a trump uprooting the c i a and shelving the globally destructive usa. i the agency that he a veteran kind of learns wilkinson is in full students, virginia. he was chief of staff with us state department now led by monica rubio when major power has invaded iraq. this kind of thank so much for coming on right off the top. i suppose i better ask you this bible relief about usa id. what you
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thought of that press conference in the white house with the alleged wall criminal netanyahu? the trump gave way outlined, possible ethnic cleansing route for gaza. frankly, i didn't think that i could be in the future stand by anything but material bombastic character. donald trump said, but i was, this is, this is just such a flagrant violation of the read space to order if you will, that we fashion, particularly the international law part of it. there's just standing. absolutely starting. i think the special effort to her all the needs said correctly, if you wanted to break every law possible to be broken as you did, except while you ins measure up to argue we failed to create disease 5. and i know i get criticized with the left to define some trump supports it. yeah. it was trump that allowed the children of guys or to sleep for the 1st time up to 15 months with
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that aerial bombardment image of the genocide. and of course, some people to kindly looking on this is saying now is real cars start up the bombing image, these different processes of the ceasefire agreement because it's the united states land. now it was, this wasn't a 2 man of terry and gesture by drawing. this was strictly transactional to get to the jared cushion or dream of a gaza with hotels drop hotels, probably and other assets or trump likes featured on the mediterranean. say this had nothing to do with humanitarian instincts or empathy or seem to be even. and now we're seeing the reality of it. i think the reality of it, however, is the military professional. i have to tell you is not only reasonable is extremely dangerous. well if it really was jared questionnaire, an event could trumps idea. as you imply,
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there it is reasonable because there's no way i mean you might have to remind or what he is. what exactly, he said as regards we, he didn't who allowed us troops on the ground to god this perhaps future trump hotel project in guys a book while saying that the 2000000 people in guys of which somehow became 1.81.6000000. i don't know whether that was an admission that half a 1000000 to being wiped out by british american european union on bombing over the past 15 months to some of the us troops that going on the ground there. as i go back to coal in dallas statement to me on a number of occasions throughout about a decade period, putting us forces on the ground in a lot in a serious per portion. that is to say, not just did air force spaces and pass through facilities as we're having to wait. but on a serious basis, war fighting capable basis would be the greatest mistake the united states could
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make with regard to boulevard. and possibly with regard to its global position period. oh wow. is right. you do not. and h w bush actually said there's 2 in the presence of his then sector defense. richard cheney, you do not saw me into that calls or will not put us forces on the ground there to stay because all they will be is a disaster waiting to happen. yeah, so i mean, yeah, they would also cost trillions of dollars and it's all going to happen then. and so it's another really huge question. huge question. read dexter phil cans just released article in the new yorker magazine. a huge question. where is he going to get these american troops? he's already given northern command, a warning order to seal the southern border. given 3 army divisions, at least for gauge of 2 and a whole division was the 10th mountain orders to go to the southern border. those
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troops could only cover maybe a 100 kilometers that of that border. there's 3150 kilometers. is that border? where is he going to get these american soldiers? we don't have a draft. we have a volunteer force. it's falling apart, even as i speak is the extra tokens article points out graphically. whereas you're going to get these forces. is it going to hire private contractors like i understand right now, and i have video freeze of it apparently from a person who is walking along with the palestinians, who are you for it, even though they were passing through the nazarenes order in the devastations into a mar, escape, they were you for it about going home and on their flags were american hired security contractors, making sure the israelis didn't take advantage of that passage and kill even thousands more. so where are we going to get these 4? so you go to higher, higher airy prince and a bunch of private contractors. this is
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a disaster waiting to happen and dollars by actually doing it from the oval office, but avenue on. so yourself, you said these transactional, it called happened, the troops aren't going to be that guiding you. the trump investments that the american people want to go for that. so if it is transactional, it will be with the wrong information being provided to him from like waltz perhaps because as you say that he understand. i mean, when he go do the mike works is going when he realizes the, well, it's presumably is the guy telling him saudi arabia or it's fine with no palestinian state. i mean, it was very, very late. the release time for the far enough as the problem. what are the saudi arabians going, what are you talking about? basically an immediate response to this outrage all around here. and uh well, it's presumably telling him the palestinians. they don't want to return, they shouldn't return. when it was on, hundreds of thousands have been returning over the past few days to know them guys, it's all wrong. information is being fed. the world is on the street this morning
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early about 7 am. the vaults has gone. i don't know if that's accurate, but that's the word on the street. what that is or the end date, there's a history of a national security advisers going quickly. we edge on both and on the other week, of course, and hope to get my clear and who was the 1st one. so that should hopefully signal that trump react very quickly to uh when he's being made a fool out of i would think so i said earlier, right after the election that there wouldn't be a single one. if they did pass, go with the senate and, and get confirmed, there wouldn't be a single one. it is major cabinet appointees. are reasonable fax summit, sec tax. i'm always there up there last of 9 months that all the go. that's donald trump, at least. so he said that ron was not a, in a week position. some of that i'm planning to buy administrator for that on like
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what say, lindsey graham and bizarre of people in your congress is talk about when they, with respect to iran and the, the possibility of an invasion you're on is just sign that russia do you know, with just showed a military cooperation with iran has been showing of new weaponry that at least looks off the table. it's just going to be greater way to sanctions. although trump obviously hasn't been told about bricks. and let's say where i'm talking to you from the you a is now part of a system, a new new grouping where they run. i think that's one thing that i would say is fairly assured in my mind, at least a trump is a gaze, is a us use of force or real force against the wrong um, taking out an occasion or ongoing as he did with the r g c. is one thing, but taking on our honors quite another i think he's been given the full breezing by different people a different time. certainly been
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a gone on how desperate the circumstance that would great in the united states. not just because we're so roughly short of people in our military, but also because our industrial base is woefully inadequate. we've taken some measures to remedy that, but it's going to take a while is going to take a couple of years before we even begin to get going on that. so we don't need to be taking on any more substantial commitments and iran would be a very substantial commitment. 10 years, 2 or 3 trillion dollars, lots of troops of conscription process a draft. in other words, and many young people in america go into canada and mexico, who will be the president has been said by net and yeah, well, you believe it, you actually just in the highlighted place, making uninhabitable rather than actually occupying, you know, taking it over. and trump talks about maximum streams using the phrase maximum and then the to the pretty poor journalists, arguably, especially at that. and then, you know, press conference kind of us who will options on the table is
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a threatening it run with aerial bombardment. as i don't think there's anything that truck won't say as a threat, but i find it very difficult to believe from past experience is 1st term for example, the fall through most of those threats. he is purely transactional. he has no entity whatsoever. and very little simplistic, but i don't think he is taking or of the consequences of some of the more drastic actions that they didn't. even he occasionally puts forward and understands what kind of damage it would do to him and then go to re. so i don't think he's going to do anything degrees us in that form, or too many people around him to at least tell him that he's naked on a bob, save some of these things. so i just don't think he's got to do something like that . i don't think he likes war at all and i don't think he understands what he's saying. sometimes when he talks about things that those of us who are at least
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somewhat schooled in it know will probably lead to war, will lead to more p simply. doesn't believe that until someone sits down with him, with some temerity and courage entails. as the pentagon has done repeatedly about or with the wrong, so he's not netanyahu's poodle memory modeled since poodle. i think the yahoo is odd to me. i think i've said there's a number of times i think marriage drummer mall are wrong in terms of a pack and it's an influence. there's no question that the jewish lobby has influence and significantly on the congress. but israel is our panel. they are doing precisely at various times what we want them to do and have been doing that since 1948 when they started out, there's the british boot also do that. reading got a file of the united states fairly quickly. we took over, it's in berry writ and ever since then with increasing frequency and bloodthirsty
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news, israel has been doing our job in the law. and isn't that the point though, that it's so refreshing to have a person like donald trump in the white house, who says it how, how it is rather than was using wiki leaks to release a memo of blinking. i know jake sullivan, the previous national security advisor, sending things to hillary clinton telling about kaiser is on the side of united states. he dropped patello stump patel the american people of their tax dollars was paying all kinds of the yeah, the rafters are off the disguise. is gone down, drop is exposed very well good. and i'll stop you that more from before, but you have stuff in the us state department after this break, the lease of russian states never saw one of the most sense community best.
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nothing was all sense. and the must be the one else holes. question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin, the machine, the state on the russians coding and split the ortiz full neck, even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube. the question, did you even closer to the
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welcome back to going on the right, and i'm still here with the lords wilkinson, who's the chief of stuff in the us state department kinda. we've been talking about the refreshing nature of at least some one in the way that's being candid. county can trump force egypt in jordan's hand about the w2w refugees of egypt and jordan, and previously always done with washington. i've told him to, can you actually do that even though it does cost the stabilize both those countries, or he has a lot of leverage on both cairo and i'm on more so on cairo. i understand now, and this is a fairly low source of the egyptian military would not be paid if it were not for the united states largest going to egypt. i'm sure that is probably even an access to the 3.6 or 3700000000. we give them routinely to bribe them to keep the base trade with israel and for all modeling, it's probably not equivalent amounts,
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but it's equivalent to fact. so there's a lot of influence. the united states can exercise there, but it only goes so far. i mean, you're talking about the king and i'm on for example, losing control of these countries. if you know even a 1000000 of those 2 to plus whatever 1000000 garzin suddenly appeared in jordan and added to the already 6 or $7000000.00, you has to look after it'd be an untenable situation for him. so he's going to be forced to make a hard decision, but i suspect he will make it to balance the money with the problem. and that's not going to do anybody and you good, it'll be a half solution if you will. yeah, king of the do in washington and to me jump on tuesday. of course. uh us a id was a big decision. see a decisions as well offering to everyone in the c ha, all around the world, the,
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the offer to reside and get 8 months a salary. i suppose one, the i want to get on to you great in a moment. what was your immediate reaction? you might have to remind the audience of some of the greed just things you as a ideas done over the years because most recently the funding of factories, the history in china regarding gain a function code with research. but you must have been you must have known us as hey, id intimately at the state department under uh, uh, calling about. i certainly did. aid was under andrew not sale since that time. and i watched the transition and transform ation in u. s. a. it wasn't for a manual organization of fundamentally bureaucrats, civil service and foreign service running development programs in various countries in the world, in accordance with us express policy. to be a few of those people. very few of those people managing a horde of private contractors and that's the u. s. 8 of today. so frankly,
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is marco rubio and donald trump wanted to change that entirely. i would stay in the street in the blog because what the did was turn us aide into a fountain of complicity with intelligence services and other n g o is and quite all groups quite as our government groups who's in chance either known to them or unknown to them because they were infiltrated by the c, i was over throw government. how would you ride samantha power is a bit sure. she of course, was an administrator usa id of to being ambassador of the u. n. video country. i don't think samantha power knew the half before i just said. in fact, there are very few people outside the government, cent is or who know what the united states is doing in places like georgia where it is now trying to over throw the georgia dream party, which has a tenuous hold on power and wants to maintain
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a balance between nato in one direction in moscow and the other. they're trying to over throw that government. they're working on college or just school in romania so he won't get elected. they're trying to pass the election against them. so because he's threatened to take romania out of nato, this is what we're doing today all over that region. trying to recruit allies in this vicious struggle that we're behind in ukraine to bleed russia. and we want more l as in doing that, particularly georgia in romania and anybody else small boat that we can get to come into the fight with us at their peril. look at georgia, look at what they didn't do the last time. we tried this with my president who went at the blazing and stood beside present, been president, soccer civilian, said george, you would be a member of nato in the very near future. to invite you to a cause. you and south a set you and he still has tension or control over those. next time he'll go all
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the way to police see how they were referendums there. of course, as the russians say, i think you're crediting too much ignore instead of samantha power. i think, well, i'm going undergrad, we've been covering usa id massively in the same vein is national endowment for democracy because you were intimating that with you as a id did in 2014 with the victorian newland and the made and qu, but i mean the, this is great, isn't it? i mean, that's the only down for the walk so you can remind or audience what these organizations mean doing is regards to not democracy promotion, reducing democracy. meanwhile, the new arm of this, the, the new arm of the see i very sophisticated or i'm or the see i sometimes they, you know, they are older. and there have been objections from time to time, from professionals within the groups. but most of the time they don't know who they are because they've been infiltrated, and sometimes they don't even have to be humans that entails right. it's just the policies on the money themselves, rights and the objectives that blow their for all. and so they become an arm of the
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see, i mean, clearly folks, news and the like the total drum watches is concentrating on the will guide the all the g elements. but it's all because the, when he almost done opened the book, he was shocked at the amount of money to the american people realize the scale of the money. well, their own infrastructure and bridges and a basic, a civilian open architecture is a corroding, understand how much money they're sending overseas to destroyed democracy in the stabilize countries. the majority of the american people, particularly the 77000000 that voted for donald trump and the 90000000. apparently they didn't vote at all or what i would call with regard to the maintenance of their country and their republic and their security ultimately brained it. uh for the debt to that, it ranges the gamut from, they don't give a damn to they haven't the knowledge nor the education to get with them. and we're in trouble because of that we have a very, very un educated public,
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probably the most fun educated public in the o, e. c. d. countries in the developed countries period. and that contributes mildly to the ability of people like you must, jay, the vance theater deal. and peter deal now talking about taking back south africa for white people as it contributes mightily to their ability to put things over on the american people. and to do things that later when they reveal to the light of day, same absolutely mom level. but even then the american people don't seem to have a whole lot of objections. as long as i doesn't read down personally to their inability to watch taylor swift organ nfl football game or whatever else might still like them. that's what they're really interested in. and i'm not saying that because i'm mad at the american people, i'm saying that because it's a reality, it's a stark reality. we have not taken care of our democracy. we are now taking care of of democracy and you pay for that. you pay for that?
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well, trump got the popular vote incentives to be american people, but then trump also while uh, trying to an i lady usa, i the saw the talking about the need, the get ukraine's rarer at the metals in a similar vein to real estate and gaza. does it have mean that there's a quid pro quo because, i mean, i know we're both laughing about that, but it's being the lead full week for russia. he's be the tacking program. got to him once i a lindsey ram, got to it is all as critical minerals. you see what's happening instead of laughter right now, these people are killing each other over these critical minerals goes anybody will buy from them and pay them top price. so it's not gold or silver or any of those things that the belgians ripped up central africa over. it's now critical miles and those clinical mentos are fundamentally not totally, but fundamentally they're in the eastern part of you greenwich, russia. now invest. so you got a problem, donald,
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if you want to stop the grading and more and you want those critical minerals at the same time unless you could talk through it. and then this would be smart. this is the transactional president. you get on a plane, you go to moscow, you sit there with the new work out a deal, and then the deal. you work out some provisions for you're getting your share of the critical matters from there and you don't kill anybody and you stop the war. bruce mar, president would do that. but i don't know if we have a pretty smart person. i mean, over the dead bodies of the scale of destruction in ukraine, it's unbelievable that such a transactional policy could be even thought about. but there's no doubt trump right now, whether he knows it or not, through the military, your 30 year military veteran yourself. the united states has been facilitating what an assassination in russia, a killing of the attack drones into russia. it's going on. it's still going on. is the now trop, apparently, has a sign, an executive orders error this morning. i haven't seen the executive order,
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but sign an executive order, the sales, who has posterity. if iran assassinated seem to bomber on, you can make yourself up to hollywood director would throw you out of his room. and that's what he said at the press conference. that the whole of iran will be presumably nuclear bombed if he was assassinated, which presumably would only be part of the radium policy because he's not allowing it running to m u. k weapons in iran anyways, as they don't want us. ensuring the hard line is in geron, just say we do when you do your weapons. well, i watch draws research one of the few people in the around in hierarchy. now that i listen to and pay attention to at the devil's on. when he was being interviewed, i think it was by uh, 3 its a cover secaria. and if you read between the lines of was the reset and he was saying, will do it to you. i'm on president. trump will do it the
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a will gave you the deal is injury will give you a deal that doesn't have a 25 year sunset will give you a deal where we will at least admit to talking about other issues like our boost and member ballistic missiles. and so forth. we'll give you a do, let's do it here. and then you can go back to saudi arabia and you can say, you've got a deal or honors not going to be in it or power. i assure you to do work. and we can go ahead with the elongated extended and much more expensive abraham a towards that mohammedan solomon has in mind that's at the bottom of some of this, the trump is talking about with regard to god. but societies are not going to go all of that and he's just walked right in the bus. so if he thinks they are. yeah, and they have a new government though, seemingly desperate for this deal because they're separating palestine from the j. c. p, a new j. c. buick, a nuclear deal. but just finally perhaps to the most serious a element of world policy, a nuclear disarmament of
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a possible use transactional, bizarre will be a dangerous conflict. can we expect the most important element between booge and and trump will be the resumption of some kind of uh, a start treaty, some kind of treaty to restore a nuclear arms reduction to make live safer. certainly should be. and if i did make that trip to moscow, sit down with the agent. by the way, i'd go back even way to zalinski and hope that when i flew back and came over the age he would have been assassinated anyway, i would say to 300, by the way, we're through with this deal pretty much now we need to talk about not just a bilateral treaty in this new girl arms business, but a multilateral treaty. you drag north korea and, and all drag israel and we need all non nuclear weapons and things states to be in this multiple will have a treaty, was your name that you and i are going to forage and take the credit for. oh yeah,
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we can run over to beijing and gives you using paying a little bit of credit board too, because we need him also. but let's forge a new treaty environment. that is, you know, pretty, pretty robust and will work most of the time, at least, and hope the time it doesn't work is not the end of the world. and let's get a handle on these most dangerous weapons, which by the way, you and i possess about 10000. no. that would be a real historical achievement and a mark or, or his presidency. i hope he would think that way about it, but i don't know because i don't think his advisors any of think that what goes a gab. she could be an exception, right. she could be an exception to laurie walters and thank you. sure. so that's it for the show will be returning to guys on monday to further explore the reverberations of u. s. u. k. u, i'm genocide to him,
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to be to by not to about his book being jewish after the destruction of guys a reckoning until then keep in touch my last social media of it. so it says video country and there's one channel going on. the going to be on the com to let you know there's a sense of going under going see you monday the we are not only at the threshold of a move you need to a national relations, but also instrumental because if you look back to the, let's say 3000 to use a different magnitude dropped in all aspects, from economy to military, to health, etc. but not all of the in the old months, there seems such an effect this destiny has witnessed within the last 10 years
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the, the one woman is killed and 10 of the civilian. so in just in a ukrainian attack on the don't by city of monkeys, the residential area is all hits and a fine breaks out. and then upon the block also ahead there was a conflict around around the constructive u. s. military base and the bangladesh, the prime minister doesn't want to do it. and so our foreign policy planners decide we need to do, we're going to pay full, the state department's official flows, the lead on usa, i d spinning details on how the organization. so to talk to government for around the world and israel and how mosque conducts that relates us to prove.
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