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i don't know chunky is doing it is based on recent his recent engagement with nature now. and then no, it's a punishment for solar, pico, the to we send to israel a even get to the international court of justice in support of the palestine. and you may have also heard, so don't know, trump saying that he wants to take over the guys right now for the 1st time in almost 3 decades, the potty of the indian prime minister. and that under a more the has round top home in local assembly elections. and you, debbie, the b, j. b has finally taken the political part of the country in a big blow to the opposition. now in the 7th day seat assembly in delhi, a, b, b, j. p. $148.00, breaking the 50 percent threshold needed for victory. now the opposition a b sides, a pre election tale of $63.00 seats,
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sliced to $22.00 seats. had been in policy and 2013, having secured huge support on an anti corruption ticket, but that popularity has crumbled and made its own corruption allegations. the now are to the comments where you can get further details of all the story as well following. now, thanks for watching and ask you again the i'm ask you understand, see and welcome back to going underground, broadcasting all around the world from the u. a. in the heart of them,
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at least stunned into understanding what is reading the usa of long had in store for palestine wheel. donald trump's national security advisor mike waltz, be fine. does he already verified saudi arabia was swift to attack drums planned to ethnically cleanse guys? i even though it was in the middle of the night, saturday time when the us president sitting beside israel is netanyahu. so to defacto destabilize egypt and jordan with millions of refugees as expected vassal states in europe and no sovereignty were muted. but trumps erroneous claim that saudi arabia no longer thinks the palestinian states also and good china, russia. and they to remember tech a. this is trump facilitated ukraine bombing of russia, bomb somalia, and signed it ordered to approve bombing iran. well that in the week that i'll, you'll be so trump operating the c i a and shelving the globally destructive usa. i, the agency, does he, a veteran kind of learns wilkinson is in full stretch virginia. he was chief of staff with us state department now led by monica rubio,
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when nato power has invaded iraq. this kind of thank so much for coming on right off the top. i suppose i better ask you despite all the relief about usa id, what you thought of that press conference in the white house with the alleged wall criminal netanyahu, the trump gave way outlined, possible ethnic cleansing route for gaza. frankly, i didn't think that i could be in the future stand by anything but look, curio bombastic character donald trump said, but i was, this is, this is just such a flagrant violation of the read space to order if you will, that we fashion, particularly the international law part of it. there's just stunning, absolutely starting. i think this special effort to her all the needs said correctly if you wanted to break every law possible to be broken, he did. except while you and to measure up or to or i'll give you
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a fail to create disease 5. and i know i get criticized with the left is if i'm some trump supports it. yeah. it was trump that allowed the children of guys have to sleep for the 1st time up to 15 months with that aerial bombardment image the genocide. and of course, some people to kindly looking on this is saying now is real cars start up the bombing image. these different processes of the ceasefire agreement because it's the united states land no, as well as this was in a few mandatory and just or by drawing this really strictly transactional good to the jared questionnaire. dream of a gaza with hotels trump, hotels probably, and other assets, the trump likes featured on the mediterranean, say this has nothing to do with humanitarian instincts or empathy or seem to be even. and now we're seeing the reality of it. i think the reality of it, however,
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is the males are professional. i have to tell you is not only reasonable is extremely dangerous. well if it really was jared questionnaire and a bank of trump's idea, as you imply there it is reasonable because there's no way i mean you might have to remind or what he is. what exactly he said as regards we, he didn't really loud us troops on the ground to god this perhaps future trump hotel projects in gaza. but while saying that the 2000000 people in guys of which somehow became 1.81.6000000, i don't know whether that was an admission that off a 1000000 to being wiped out by british american european union on bombing of the bus 15 months to some o u. s. troops a going on the ground there. as i go back to coal and barrel statement to me on a number of occasions throughout about a decade period. putting us forces on the ground in a lot, in a serious proportion. let's just say not just did air force spaces and pass through
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facilities as we're having to wait. but on a serious basis, war fighting capable basis would be the, the greatest mistake the united states could make with regard to the bar. and possibly with regard to its global position period. oh wow. is right. you do not. and h w bush actually said there's 2 in the presence of his then sector defense. richard cheney, you do not stop me into that calls or i will not put us forces on the ground there to stay because all they will be is a disaster waiting to happen. yeah, so i mean, yeah, they would also cost trillions of dollars and it's all going to happen then. and so some other, the other huge question. huge question re, dexter phil cans. just released article in the new yorker magazine. a huge question . where is he going to get these american troops? he's already given northern command,
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a warning order to seal the southern border. given 3 army divisions, at least for gauge of 2 and a whole division was the 10th mountain orders to go to the southern border. those troops could only cover maybe a 100 kilometers that of that border. there's 3150 kilometers. is that border? where is he going to get these american soldiers? we don't have a draft. we have a volunteer force. it's falling apart, even as i speak is the extra tokens article points out graphically whereas you're going to get these forces isn't going to hire private contractors like i understand right now. and i have video freeze of it, apparently from a person who was walking along with the palestinians, who were you for it, even though they were passing through the nazarenes border in the devastation into a mar escape. they were you for it about going home and on their flags were american hired security contractors, making sure the israelis didn't take advantage of that passage and kill even
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thousands more. so where are we going to get these 4? so you go to higher, higher airy prince and a bunch of private contractors. this is a disaster waiting to happen in dollars by actually doing it from the oval office. but haven't you onto yourself? you said these transactional, it called happened. the troops aren't going to be that guiding you. trump investments that the american people want to go for that. so if it is transactional, it will be with the wrong information being provided to him from like waltz perhaps because as you say that he understand. i mean when he go do the mike walks is going when he realizes the, well, it's presumably is the guy telling him, saudi arabia is fine with no palestinian state. i mean, it was very, very late. the release time for the far enough as depa. what are the saudi arabians going, what are you talking about? basically an immediate response to this outrage all around here. and uh, well,
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it's presumably telling him the palestinians. they don't want to return, they shouldn't return when it was on hundreds of thousands have been returning over the past few days to know them guys, it's all wrong. information is being fed. the word is on the street this morning, early about 7 am. the vaults is gone. i don't know if that's accurate, but that's the word on the street. what that is, or then date, there's a history of a national security advisors going quickly. we had john bolton on the other week of course, and hope to get mike flynn, who was the 1st one. so that should hopefully signal that trump reacts very quickly to uh when he's being made a fool out of i would think, so i said earlier, right after the election that there wouldn't be a single one. if they did pass, go with the senate and, and get confirmed there wouldn't be a single one that is major cabinet, a point, days or a reasonable facsimile 2nd tax. i'm always there. all that lasted not much at all.
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we go, that's donald trump, at least. so he said that ron was not a in a week position. so i'm allowed claiming to buy administrator and for that on like what say, lindsey graham and bizarre of people in your congress is talk about when they, with respect to iran. and the, the possibility of an invasion you're on is just sign that russia deal. you know, with just showed a military cooperation been around, has been showing of new weaponry that at least looks off the table. it's just going to be greater the way the sanctions older. trump obviously hasn't been told about bricks and that say where i'm talking to you from the you a is now part of a system, a new new grouping with a run. i think that's the one thing that i would say is fairly assured in my mind at least the trump is a gaze, is a us use of force or real force against the wrong um, taking out an occasional or on his he did with the r g c is one thing,
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but taking on our honors quite another i think he's been given the full breezing by different people or different types or and depending on how desperate the circumstance that would great in the united states. not just because we're so roughly short of people in our military, but also because our industrial base is woefully inadequate. we've taken some measures to remedy that, but it's going to take a while is going to take a couple of years before we even begin to get going on that. so we don't need to be taking on any more substantial commitments and iran would be a very substantial commitment. 10 years, 2 or 3 trillion dollars, lots of troops of conscription process a draft. in other words, and many young people in america go into canada and mexico, who will be the president has been said by netting. yeah, well, you believe it, you actually just in the highlighted place, making uninhabitable rather than actually occupying, you know,
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taking it over. and trump talks about maximum streams using the phrase maximum and then the to the pretty poor journalists, arguably, especially at that. and then, you know, press conference kind of us who will options on the table is a threatening get run with aerial bombardment. as i don't think there's anything that truck won't say as a threat, but i find it very difficult to believe from past experience is 1st term for example, the fall through. most of those threats is purely transactional. he has no empathy whatsoever, and very little simplistic, but i don't think he is taking or of the consequences of some of the more drastic actions that they didn't. even he occasionally puts forward and understands what kind of damage it would do to him and then go to re. so i don't think he's going to do anything degrees us in that form. or too many people around him to at least tell him that he's naked on
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a bob say some of these things. so i just don't think he's got to do something like that. i don't think he likes war at all and i don't think he understands what he's saying. sometimes when he talks about things that those of us who are at least somewhat schooled in it know will probably lead to war, will lead to more p simply. doesn't believe that until someone sits down with him, with some temerity and courage entails. as the pentagon has done repeatedly about or with the wrong, so he's not netanyahu's poodle memory modeled since poodle. i think the yahoo is bartolini. i think i've said this a number of times i think maritime or mall are wrong in terms of a pack, and it's an influence. there's no question that the jewish lobby has influence and significantly on the congress. but israel is our people, they are doing precisely at various times what we want them to do and have been doing that since 1948 when they started out as the british poodles. to do that.
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reading got a file of the united states fairly quickly. we took over its imperial writ and ever since then with increasing frequency and blood thirsty news, israel has been doing our job in the law. and isn't that the point though, that it's so refreshing to have a person like donald trump in the white house, who says it how, how it is rather than was using wiki leaks to release a memo of lincoln, no, jake sullivan. the previous national security advisor sending things to hillary clinton, telling them l. kaiser is on the side of united states. he dropped patello stump patel the american people of their tax dollars was paying. okay. the yeah, the rafters are off. the disguise has gone down to offices, exposure, sorry, wilkinson. i'll stop you that more from the fall, but chief of staff of the state department after this break the,
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the welcome back to the guy. and i'm still here with the lords wilkerson former chief of staff in the us state department. kind of, we were talking about the refreshing nature of at least uh, some uh, one in the white as being candid county uh, ken trump, for egypt and jordans hand about the 1000000 to 1000000 refugees of egypt and
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jordan. and previously always done with washington and told them to can actually do that even though it does cost you stabilize both those countries. he has a lot of leverage on both cairo and a hmong more. so on cairo, i understand now this is a fairly low source of the egyptian military would not be paid if it were not for the united states largest going to egypt. i'm sure that there's probably even an access to the 3.6 or 3700000000. we give them routinely to bribe them to keep the base trade with visual. and for all modeling, it's probably not equivalent amounts, but it's equivalent to fact. so there's a lot of influence, the united states can exercise there, but it only goes so far. i mean, you're talking about the king and alon, for example, losing control of these countries. if you know even a 1000000 of those 2 to plus whatever 1000000 garzin suddenly appeared in jordan and added to the already 6 or $7000000.00, you has to look after it'd be an untenable situation for him. so he's going to be
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forced to make a hard decision, but i suspect he will make it to balance the money with the problem. and that's not going to do anybody and you good, it'll be a half solution if you will. yeah, king of the do in washington and to me jump on tuesday. of course. uh us a id was a big decision. see a decisions as well offering to everyone in the c ha, all around the world, the, the offer to reside and get 8 months a salary. i suppose the one i want to get on to you, great in a moment. what was your immediate reaction? you might have to remind the audience of some of the greed just things you as a ideas done over the years. because most recently the funding of vouchers, the history in the china regarding gain a function code research. but you must have been you must have known us as
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a id intimately at the state department under. uh, colin powell, i certainly did. aid was under andrew knoxville since that time and i watched the transition and transformation in u. s. a. it went for a mentor organization of fundamentally bureaucrats, civil service and foreign service running development programs in various countries in the world, in accordance with us express policy. to be a few of those people. very few of those people managing a horde of private contractors and that's the u. s. 8 of today. so frankly, is marco rubio and dollar from want to change that entirely. i would stay in the street in the blog because what the did was turn us aide into a fountain of complicity with intelligence services and other n g o's. and quite often groups quite as i've government groups who's in tap,
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either known to them or i'm known to them because they were infiltrated by the c. i was over throw government. how would you ride samantha power is a bit sure. she of course, was an administrator you as a id after being ambassador at the u. n. for your country. i don't think samantha power knew the half before i just said. in fact, there are very few people outside the government center is or who know what the united states is doing and places like georgia where it is now trying to, over through the georgia dream party, which has a tenuous old on power and wants to maintain a balance between nato in one direction in moscow and the other they're trying to over throw that government. they're working on college or just grew in romania so he won't get elected. they're trying to cast the election against him. so because he's threatened to take romania out of nato, this is what we're doing today all over that region. trying to recruit allies in
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this vicious struggle that we're behind in ukraine to bleed russia. and we want more allies in doing that, particularly georgia and remaining a and anybody else small boat that we can get to come into the fight with us at their peril. look at georgia. look at what clinton did the last time we tried this with my president, we went at the blazing and stood beside present, been president socket severely and said george, you would be a member of nato in the very near future and invited of cause you and so i'll set you and he still has tension or control over those. next time he'll go all the way to police. see how they were referendums there. of course, as the russians say, i think you're crediting too much ignorance to samantha power. i think, well, i'm going undergrad, we've been covering usa. i'd be massively in the same vein, is national endowment for democracy because you were intimating that with you as a id did in 2014 with the victorian newland intimate and cool. but i mean,
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this is great, isn't it? i mean, that's really down for the walk. so you can reminder audience, what these organizations mean doing is regards to not democracy promotion, reducing democracy. meanwhile, the new arm of the speed, there was a new arm of the ca, very sophisticated armor, the ca, sometimes they, you know, they are all there. and there have been objections from time to time, from professionals, within the groups. but most of the time they don't know who they are because they've been infiltrated, and sometimes they don't even have to be humans that entails right. it's just the policies on the money that i'm sold rights and the objectives that blow their from . and so they become an arm of the see, i mean, clearly fox news and the like, the dollar from watch is, is concentrating on the will guide the all the g elements. but it's all vs. but when you are mosque doing open the book, he was shocked at the amount of money to the american people realize the scale of the money while their own infrastructure and bridges and a basic, a civilian open architecture is corroding. understand how much money they're
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sending overseas to destroy democracy in the stabilize countries. the majority of the american people, particularly the 77000000 that voted for donald trump and the 90000000. apparently they didn't vote at all. or what i would call with regard to the maintenance of their country and their republic and their security ultimately brained it. uh for the data that it ranges the gamut from. they don't give a damn to they haven't the knowledge nor the education to get with them. and we're in trouble because of that, we have a very, very, an educated public, probably the most fun educated public in the o, e. c. d. countries in the developed countries period. and that contributes mildly to the ability of people like you must j, the vance theater deal. and peter deal now talking about taking back south africa for white people as it contributes mightily to their ability to put things over on the american people. and to do things that later when they reveal to the light of
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day, same absolutely mom level. but even then, the american people don't seem to have a whole lot of objections, as long as it doesn't re down personally to their inability to watch taylor swift organ nfl football game or whatever else might still like them. that's what they're really interested in. and i'm not saying that because i'm mad at the american people, i'm saying that because it's a reality, it's a stark reality. we have not taken care of our democracy. we are now taking care of of democracy and you pay for that. you pay for that? well, trump got the popular vote in fan is to be american people. but then trump also while uh, trying to an i lady usa, i the saw the talking about the need to get ukraine's rarer at the metals in a similar vein to real estate in gaza. does it have mean that there's a quid pro quo because, i mean, i know we're both laughing about that, but it's being the lead full week a for russia,
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he's be the talking program. got to him. once a, a, lindsey rammed, got to it, is all as critical minerals. you see what's happening in central africa right now. these people are killing each other over these critical minerals goes anybody will buy from them and pay them top price. so it's not gold or silver or any of those things that the belgians ripped up central africa over. it's now critical miles. and these clinical mentos are fundamentally not totally, but fundamentally they're in the eastern part of ukraine, which russia now invest. so you got a problem, donald, if you want to stop the grading and more and you want those critical minerals at the same time unless you can talk to it. and then this would be smart. this is the transactional president. you get on a plane, you go to moscow, you sit there with the new work out a deal, and then the deal. you work out some provisions for you're getting your share of the critical matters from there and you don't kill anybody and you stop the war. bruce mar, president would do that. but i don't know if we have
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a pretty smart person. i mean, over the dead bodies of the scale of destruction in ukraine, it's unbelievable that such a transactional policy could be even thought about. but there's no doubt trump right now, whether he knows it or not, through the military, your 30 year military veteran yourself. the united states has been facilitating what an assassination in russia, killing the attack drones into russia. it's going on. it's still going on. is the nature of apparently has a sign, an executive orders error this morning. i haven't seen the executive order, but sign an executive order. the sales has posterity. if it were honest, fascinated, seem to bomber on you can make this stuff up. the hollywood director would throw you out of his room and that's what he said at the press conference that the whole of iran would be presumably nuclear bombed. if he was assassinated, which presumably would only be part of the radium policy because he's not allowing
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it running to have new k weapons in iran anyways. says they don't want us, ensuring the hard line is inject run to say we do when you do your weapons. well, i watch draws researchers one of the few people in the around the entire key. now that i listen to and pay attention to at the dallas on when he was being interviewed, i think it was by uh, 3. is that correct? it's a car. yeah. and if you read between the lines of was the re said he was saying, will do it to you. i'm on president, trump will do it the a will gave you the deal century will give you a deal that doesn't have a 25 year sunset. will give you and do you where we will at least admit to talking about other issues like our boost and ma'am ballistic missiles and so forth. we'll give you a new, let's do it here. and then you can go back to saudi arabia and you can say you got a deal or honors not going to be in a power. i assure you to do work. and we can go ahead with the elongated extended
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and much more expensive abraham a towards that mohammed than solomon has in mind. that's at the bottom of some of this, the trump is talking about with regard to god. but societies are not going to go all of that and he's just walked right in the bus. so if he thinks they are. yeah, and the raining government though, seemingly desperate for this deal because this separating palestine from the j. c. p, a new j. c. buick and u. k. a deal but just find the balance of the most serious elements of world policy, nuclear disarmament. apart from all of these transactional, bizarre will be a dangerous conflicts. can we expect the most important element between food and drug will be the resumption of some kind of uh, start treaty, some kind of treaty to restore a nuclear arms reduction to make live safer. certainly should be. and if i
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did make that trip to moscow, sit down with those. and by the way, i'd go back even way to zalinski and hope that when i flew back and came over to you, he would have been assassinated. anyway, i would say to susan, oh, by the way, we're through with this deal pretty much now we need to talk about not just a bilateral treaty in this new girl arms business, but a multilateral treaty. you drag north korea and an all drag israel and we need all 9 nuclear weapons opening states to be in this multiple will have a treaty resume that you and i are going to forage and take the credit for. oh yeah, we can run over to beijing and gives you using, paying a little bit of credit for it too, because we need him also. but let's forge a new treaty environment. that is, you know, pretty, pretty robust and we'll work most of the lease and hope the time it doesn't work is not the end of the world. and let's get a handle on these most dangerous weapons, which by the way, you and i possess about 10000. no. that would be
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a real historical achievement and a mark or, or his presidency. i hope you would think that way about it, but i don't know because i don't think is advisors think that what does a gab or she could be an exception? you're right. she could be an exception to larry well, because and thank you. sure. that's it for the show. well we were trying to guys on monday to further explore the reverberations of u. s. u k u um genocide, talking to a piece of vinyl to about his book being jewish after the destruction of gaza, a reckoning until then. keep in touch by little as social media of his thoughts as review a country and a drawing channel going on are going to be hon dot com to let you know the episodes are going on the gun see monday, the
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