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the the, [000:00:00;00] the, i'm actually understand see, and welcome back to going underground, broadcasting all around the world from the u. a. in the heart of i'm at least stunned into understanding what is around the usa of long had in store for palestine wheel. donald trump national security advisor, mike will be fine. does he already be inside? saudi arabia was swift to attack transplant. do ethnically cleanse guys even though it was in the middle of the night, saturday time when the us president sitting beside israel's netanyahu. so to defacto destabilize,
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egypt and jordan with millions of refugees as expected vessel states in europe with no sovereignty were muted by trumps erroneous claim, that saudi arabia no longer thinks about a city and state, also and good china, russia and nato. remember tech a, this is trump facilitated ukraine bombing of russia bones, somalia, and signed in order to approve bombing iran will that in a week that i'll be so trump operating the c i a, and shelving the globally destructive u. s. a. i the agency that he, a veteran kind of learns wilkerson is in full stretch virginia. he was chief of staff with the us state department now that by mach rubio, when major power has invaded the rock. colonel, thanks so much for coming on a ride off the top. i suppose. i better ask you despite all the relief about you as a id, what you thought of that press conference in the white house with the alleged wall criminal netanyahu? the trump gave way outlined, possible ethnic cleansing route for gaza. frankly,
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i didn't think that i could be in the future stand by anything but material bombastic character, donald trump said, but i was, this is, this is just such a flagrant violation of the read space to order if you will, that we fashion, particularly the international law part of it, there's just stunning, absolutely starting. i think this special effort to her all the knees said that correctly if you wanted to break every law possible to be broken as you did. except while you and somebody threw up on to argue really failed to create to cease fire. and i know i get criticized with the left as if i'm trump supports it. yeah. it was trump that allowed the children of guys have to sleep for the 1st time up to 15 months with that aerial bombardment, m is the genocide. and of course, some people to kindly looking on this as saying now is real cars start up the
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bombing image, these different processes of the ceasefire agreement? because it's the united states land now was this wasn't a humanitarian gesture by drawing this really strictly transactional good to the jared cushion or dream of a gaza with hotels drop hotels, probably and other assets the trump likes featured on the mediterranean sea. this has nothing to do with humanity or an instincts or empathy or seem to be even. and now we're seeing the reality of it. i think the reality of it, however, is the males are professional. i have to tell you is not only reasonable, it's extremely dangerous as well if it really was jared questionnaire and a bank of trump's idea. as you imply, there it is reasonable because there's no way i mean you might have to remind or what he is. what exactly, he said as regards we, he didn't, we allowed us troops on the ground to god this perhaps future trump hotel project
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in guys a. but while saying that the 2000000 people in guys of which somehow became 1.81.6000000 . i don't know whether that was an admission that half a 1000000 to being wiped out by british american european union on bombing over the past 15 months. but some of us troops are going on the ground there. um i go back to colon barrel statement to me on a number of occasions throughout about a decade period. putting us forces on the ground in the law, in a serious per portion that is to say, not just air force spaces and pass through facilities as we're having to wait. but on a serious basis, war fighting capable basis would be the greatest mistake the united states could make with regard to boulevard, and possibly with regard to its global position period. home, how is right. you do not, and h w bush actually said this to in the presence of his then sector defense. richard cheney,
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you do not saw me into that calls or will not put us forces on the ground there to stay because all they will be is a disaster waiting to happen. yeah, so i mean, yeah, they would also cost trillions of dollars and it's all going to happen then. and so some other, the other huge question. huge question re, dexter phil cans. just released article in the new yorker magazine. a huge question . where is he going to get these american troops? he's already given northern command, a warning order to seal the southern border. given 3 army divisions, at least for gauge of 2 and a whole division was attempt mountain orders to go to the southern border. those troops could only cover maybe a 100 kilometers that of that border. there's 3150 kilometers of that border. where is he going to get these american soldiers?
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we don't ever dry up. we have a volunteer force. it's falling apart, even as i speak is the extra tokens article points out graphically. whereas you're going to get these forces is going to hire private contractors like i understand right now. and i have video freeze of it apparently from a person who is walking along with the palestinians. who are you for it? even though they were passing through the nazareth border in the devastation into a more skate they were you for it about going home and on their flights were american hired security contractors, making sure the israelis didn't take advantage of the passage and to even thousands more. so where are we going to get these 4 c so you go to higher, higher airy prince and a bunch of private contractors. this is a disaster waiting to happen in dollars by actually doing it from the oval office, but avenue on. so yourself, you said these transactional, it called happened, the troops aren't going to be that guiding you. the trump investments that the
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american people want to go for that. so if it is transactional, it will be with the wrong information being provided to him from like waltz perhaps because as you say that he understand. i mean, when he go do the mike works is going when he realizes the, well, it's presumably is the guy telling him, saudi arabia is fine with no palestinian state. i mean, it was very, very late. the release time for the far enough as to bob, what are the saudi arabians going, what are you talking about? basically an immediate response to this outrage all around here. and uh, well, it's presumably telling him the palestinians. they don't want to return, they shouldn't return. when it was on, hundreds of thousands have been returning over the past few days to know them guys, it's all wrong. information is being fed. the word is on the street this morning early about 7 am. the vaults is gone. i don't know if that's accurate, but that's the word on the street. what that is, or then date, there's a history of
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a national security advisers going quickly. we had john bolton on the other week of course, and hope to get mike flynn, who was the 1st one. so that should hopefully signal that the trump reacts very quickly to when he's being made a fool out of i would think, so i said earlier, right after the election that there wouldn't be a single one. if they did pass, go with the senate and, and get confirmed, there wouldn't be a single one. it is major cabinet appointees are reasonable facsimile, sex tax. emily's or all that last is not much at all. we go, that's donald trump, at least. so he said that ron was not a, in a week position, some of that i'm planning to buy administrator. and for that on like what say, lindsey graham and bizarre of people in your congress is talk about when they, with respect to iran and the, the possibility of an invasion you're on is just sign that russia deal. you know,
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with just showed a military cooperation with iran has been showing of new weaponry that at least looks off the table. it's just going to be greater and greater sanctions. although trump obviously hasn't been told about bricks. and let's say where i'm talking to you from the you a is now part of a system, a new new grouping with a run. i think that's the one thing that i would say is fairly assured in my mind, at least a trump is a gaze, is a us use of force or real force against the wrong. i'm taking out an occasion or on the, on his he did with the r g. c is one thing, but taking our honors quite another i think he's been given the full breezing by different people or different types from the pentagon on how desperate the circumstance that would great in the united states. not just because we're so lawfully sure. of people in our military, but also because our industrial base is woefully inadequate. we've taken some
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measures to remedy that, but it's going to take a while is going to take a couple of years before we even begin to get going on that. so we don't need to be taking on any more substantial commitments and iran would be a very substantial commitment. 10 years, 2 or 3 trillion dollars, lots of troops of conscription process a draft. in other words, and many young people in america go into canada and mexico. toll being the president is being said by men. yeah. well, i'll give leave with you actually just in the highlighted place and making uninhabitable rather than actually occupying, you know, taking it over. and trump talks about maximum streams using this phrase maximum, and then the to the pretty poor journalists, arguably, especially at that net and you know, press conference kind of us who will options on the table is a threatening get run with aerial bombardment. or i don't think there's anything that trough won't say as a threat,
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but i find it very difficult to believe from past experience is 1st term for example, the fall through most of those threats. he is purely transactional. he has no entity whatsoever. and very little simplistic, but i don't think he is taking or of the consequences of some of the more drastic actions that they didn't even he occasionally, but it's far and understands what kind of damage it would do to him and then go to re. so i don't think he's going to do anything degrees us in that form, or too many people around him to at least tell him that he's naked on a bout say some of these things. so i just don't think he's got to do something like that. i don't think he likes war at all and i don't think he understands what he's saying. sometimes when he talks about things that those of us who are at least somewhat schooled in it know will probably lead to war, will lead to more p simply doesn't believe that until someone says. so i'm with him with some temerity and courage entails,
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as the pentagon has done repeatedly about or with the wrong. so he's not netanyahu's poodle memory modeled since poodle. i think the yahoo is far too. i think i've said this a number of times, i think marriage drummer mall are wrong in terms of a pack and it's influence. there's no question that the jewish lobby has influence and significantly on the congress. but israel is our panel. they are doing precisely at various times what we want them to do and have been doing that since 1948 when they started out as the british poodles to do that. britain got a file of the united states fairly quickly. we took over its imperial writ and ever since then with increasing frequency and bloodthirsty this israel has both been doing our job in the law. and isn't that the point though, that it's so refreshing to have a person like donald trump in the white house,
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who says it how, how it is rather than was using wiki leaks to release a memo of blinking. i know jake sullivan, the previous national security advisor, sending things to hillary clinton telling about kaiser is on the side of united states. he dropped patello stump patel the american people of their tax dollars was paying. okay. the yeah, the rafters are off. the disguise has gone down, dropped his exposure very well, and i'll stop you that more from before, which he goes for the state department. after this break, the the,
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we are not only at the trash world of media, we need to a nation relations, but also instrumental. because if you look back to the, let's say 3000 tiers to different magnitude in all aspects, from economy to military, to health, etc. but not all of the in the world once they're seen such and even that just as we have witnessed within the last 10 years, the the welcome back to going underground. and i'm still here with the lords wilkerson for the chief of staff in the us state department. kind of, we were talking about the refreshing nature of at least some one in the way that's being candid. county uh ken trump force egypt and jordan's hand about the
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$12000000.00 refugees of egypt and jordan and previously always done with washington of told him to can you actually do that even though it does cost the stabilize both those countries he has a lot of leverage on both cairo and a mom more. so on cairo i understand now this is a fairly reliable source of the egyptian military would not be paid if it were not for the united states largest go into egypt. i'm sure that is probably even an access to the 3.6 or 3700000000. we give them routinely to bribe them to keep the base trade with israel. and for all modeling, it's probably not equivalent amounts, but it's equivalent to fact. so there's a lot of influence the united states can exercise there, but it only goes so far. i mean, you're talking about the king and i'm on, for example, losing control of these countries. if you know even a 1000000 of those 2 to plus whatever 1000000 gallons suddenly appeared in jordan and added to the already 6 or $7000000.00,
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he has to look after it'd be untenable situation for him. so he's going to be forced to make a hard decision, but i suspect you will make it to balance the money with the problem. and that's not going to do anybody, any good. it'll be a half solution if you will. yeah, king of the do in washington and to me jump on tuesday. of course. uh us a id was a big decision. see a decisions as well offering to everyone in the c ha, all around the world, the, the offer to reside and get 8 months a salary. i suppose the one i want to get on to ukraine in a moment. what was your immediate reaction? you might have to remind the audience of some of the egregious things you as a ideas done over the years because most recently the funding of factories about history and china regarding gain a function code with research. but you must have been you must have known us as
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a id intimately at the state department under. uh, colin powell, i certainly did. aid was under andrew knoxville since that time and i watched the transition and transform ation in u. s. a. it went for an organization of fundamentally bureaucrats, civil service and foreign service running development programs in various countries in the world, in accordance with us express policy. to be a few of those people. very few of those people managing a horde of private contractors. and that's the u. s. 8 of today. so frankly, is marco rubio and donald trump want to change that entirely. i would stay in the street in the blog because what the did was turn us aide into a fountain of complicity with intelligence services and other n g o's. and quite all groups quite as our government groups who's in tant,
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either known to them or i'm known to them because they were infiltrated by the c. i was over throw government. how would you ride samantha power is a bit sure. she of course, was an administrator usa. i the after being ambassador in the u. n. for your country. i don't think samantha power knew the half before i just said. in fact, there are very few people outside the government center use, or who know what the united states is doing in places like georgia, where it is now tried to over throw the georgia dream party, which has a tenuous hold on power and wants to maintain a balance between nato in one direction in moscow and the other. they're trying to over throw that government. they're working on college or just school in romania so he won't get elected. they're trying to cast the election against him. so because he's threatened to take romania out of nato, this is what we're doing today all over that region. trying to recruit allies in
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this vicious struggle that we're behind in ukraine to bleed russia. and we want more l as in doing that, particularly georgia in romania and anybody else know global that we can get to come into the fight with us at their peril. look at georgia, look at what clinton did the last time we tried this with my president, we went to the police and stood beside press. been president, soccer civilian, said george, you would be a member of nato in the very near future. and invited of cause you and so i also sent you an a p still has tension or control over those. next time he'll go all the way to blue. see how they were referendums there. of course, as the russian say, i think you're crediting too much ignorance to samantha power. i think i'm going on to grow. we've been covering usa. i'd be massively in the same vein, is national endowment for democracy because you were intimating there with you as a id did in 2014 with the victorian newland intimate and cool. but i mean,
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this is great, isn't it? i mean, that's one of them for their walker, so you can remind their audience what these organizations mean doing is, are gods, not democracy promotion, reducing democracy. i meanwhile, the new arm of this be, there is a new arm of this, a very sophisticated armor, the ca, sometimes they, you know, they are older. and there have been objections from time to time, from professionals, within the groups. but most of the time they don't know who they are because they've been infiltrated, and sometimes they don't even have to be humans that entails right. it's just the policies on the money to themselves rights and the objectives that blow their from . and so they become an arm of the see, i mean, clearly fox news and the like, the total drum watches is concentrating on the will guide the all the g elements. but it's all because that when he'll a muscle during open the books, he was shocked with the amount of money to the american people realize the scale of the money. well, their own infrastructure and bridges and basic
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a civilian open architecture is corroding. understand how much money they're sending overseas to destroyed democracy in the stabilize countries. the majority of the american people, particularly the 77000000 that voted for donald trump and the 90 maybe. and apparently they didn't vote at all. or what i would call with regard to the maintenance of their country and their republic and their security ultimately brained it, uh for the debt to that. it ranges the gamut from. they don't give a damn to they haven't the knowledge nor the education to give it them. and we're in trouble because of that, we have a very, very, an educated public. probably the most fun educated public in the o e. c. d. countries in the developed countries period and that contributes mildly to the ability of people like you must j, the benz theater deal. and peter till now talking about taking back south africa for white people as it contributes mightily to their ability to put things over on
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the american people and to do things that later when they reveal to the light of day. same absolutely mom level. but even then, the american people don't seem to have a whole lot of objections, as long as i doesn't read down personally to their inability to watch taylor swift organ nfl football game or whatever else might still like them. that's what they're really interested in. and i'm not saying that because i'm mad at the american people, i'm saying that because it's a reality, it's a stark reality. we have not taken care of our democracy. we are now taking care of of democracy and you pay for that. you pay for that? well, trump got the popular vote in fan is to be american people. but then trump also while uh, trying to an i lady usa i the saw the talking about the need to get ukraine's rarer at the metals in a similar vein to real estate. in garza, does it have mean that there's a quid pro quo because, i mean, i know we're both laughing about that, but it's being
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a little weak for russia and he's be the talking the and got to him. once i a lindsey graham got to it is all as critical minerals, you see what's happening and so there's laughter right now these people are killing each other over these critical minerals, goes anybody will bomb from them and pay them top price. so it's not gold or silver or any of those things that the belgians ripped up central africa over. it's now critical miles and those clinical mentos are fundamentally not totally, but fundamentally they're in the eastern part of ukraine, which russia now invest. so you got a problem, dorothy was stop the grading and more and you won't those critical minerals at the same time unless you can talk through it. and then this will be smart. this is the transactional president. you get on a plane, you go to moscow, you sit there with the new work out a deal, and then the deal is more work out some provisions for you're getting your share of the critical minutes from there and you don't kill anybody and you stop the war 3 smaller president would do that, but i don't know if we have
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a pretty smart person. i mean over the dead bodies of the scale of destruction in ukraine. it's unbelievable that such a transactional policy could be even thought about. but there's no doubt trump right now, whether he knows it or not to the military, your 30 year military veteran yourself. the united states has been facilitating what an assassination in russia, a killing an attack drones into russia. it's going on. it's still going on. is the natural, apparently has a sign, an executive orders error this morning. i haven't seen the executive order book side, an executive order that sells his posterity. if iran assassinated seem to bomber on, you can make yourself up to hollywood director, would throw you out of his room. and that's what he said at the press conference that the whole of iran will be presumably nuclear bombed. if he was assassinated,
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which presumably would only be part of the radium policy because he's not allowing it running to have nuclear weapons in iran any way says they don't want. thus ensuring the hard line is in geron. just say we do one nuclear weapons. well, i watch draws research wireless, few people in the, around the entire okay. now that i listen to and pay attention to at the devil's on when he was being interviewed. i think it was by uh, 3. is that correct? it's a car. yeah. and if you read between the lines of was the re said he was saying, we'll do a deal. i'm on president trump, we'll do it the a will gave you the deal is century will give you a deal that doesn't have a 25 year sunset. will give you a deal where we will at least admit to talking about other issues like our boost and ma'am ballistic missiles and so forth. we'll give you a do, let's do it a and then you can go back to saudi arabia and you can say, you've got a deal or honors not going to be in
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a power. i assure you do work. and we can go ahead with the elongated extended and much more expensive abraham on towards that mohammed been solomon has in mind that's at the bottom of some of this, the trump is talking about with regard to god. but societies are not going to go all of that and he's just walked right in the bus. so if he thinks they are. yeah, and the raining government though, seemingly desperate for this deal because the separating palestine from the j. c. p, a new j. c. buick, a nuclear deal, but just find the balance of the most serious a element of world policy, a nuclear disarmament of a possible use transactional, bizarre will be a dangerous conflict. can we expect the most important element between food and trump will be the resumption of some kind of uh, start treaty, some kind of treaty to restore
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a nuclear arms reduction to make live safer. certainly should be. and if i did make that trip to moscow, sit down with dirt, and by the way, i'd go back even wait, it's the landscape and hope that when i flew back and came over to use it, he would have been assassinated anyway, i would say to 300, by the way, we're through with this new and pretty much now we need to talk about not just a bilateral treaty in this new girl arms business, but a multilateral treaty. you drag north korea and an all drag israel and we need all 9 nuclear weapons and things states to be and this multiple will have a treaty resume that you and i are going to forage and take the credit for. oh yeah, we can run over to beijing and gives you using, paying a little bit of credit board to it goes, we need him also. but let's forge a new treaty environment. that is, you know, pretty, pretty robust and will work. most of the time it leaves and hope the time it doesn't work is not the end of the world. and let's get a handle on these most dangerous weapons, which, by the way,
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you and i possess about 10000 all. that would be a real old, historical achievement and a marker for his presidency. i hope you would think that way about it, but i don't know because i don't think is advisors any of think that what goes to gab? she could be an exception. you're right. she could be an exception to laurie walters and thank you. sure. sunset for the show will be returning to guys on monday to further explore the reverberations of u. s. u. k. u. i'm genocide to him to be to by not to about his book being jewish after the destruction of gaza, a reckoning until then. keep in touch with social media of his thoughts as video country. and there's one channel going on. going to be on the com to let you know there's a sense of going on the go and see you. monday. the
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muscle americans today are on forces joined our nato allies in air strikes against the serbian forces. the, the guy, yearly village spoke to us with them and we, we still forward the inquiry disregard, you know, swim face is, i mean, nation which is reinforced with the defeated uranium that has a special capacity to spend the tree pro my new car safety point of view, there is no radiological, the or even and nothing is significant consequences. the, the symmetry seems endless. a real city of a dead where it's very easy to get lost. similar graveyards now exist in iraq and afghanistan. they may soon appear in ukraine with thousands of square kilometers of already being contaminated with deadly dust. for the next 4 and a half 1000000000 years
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the, [000:00:00;00] the at least 90 people are rescued while another, a 140 are about to a to the safety officer. a fire broke out and he started building in the russian capital. are you great in shelling, hits the done by city of lucky. i've got leaving one woman dead and 11 aba civilians injured. there was a conflict around around the constructive us military base. and the language issue, prime minister doesn't want to do it. and so our foreign policy planners decide we need to do, we're going to all former state department official blow is delayed on us the id,

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