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the, the, i'm ask you understand, see, and welcome back to going underground, broadcasting all around the world from the u. a. in the heart of i'm at least stunned into understanding what is reading the usa of long had in store for palestine wheel. donald trump's national security advisor, mike will be fine. does he already be inside saudi arabia? always. we have to attack transplant, do ethnically cleanse guys. i even though it was in the middle of the night, saturday time when the us president sitting beside israel is netanyahu. so to defacto destabilize, egypt and jordan with millions of refugees as expected vassal states in europe and
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no sovereignty were muted. but trumps erroneous claim that saudi arabia no longer thinks the palestinian states also and good china, russia. and they to remember tech a. this is trump facilitated ukraine bombing of russia bones, somalia, and signed in order to approve bombing iran will that in a week that i'll be so a trump uprooting the c i a and shelving the globally destructive u. s. a. i the agency that he a veteran kind of lawrence wilkinson is in full of students, virginia. he was chief of staff with the state department now led by monica rubio, when nato power has invaded the rock. colonel, thanks so much for coming on a ride off the top. i suppose. i better ask you this bible, the relief about usa id. what you thought of that press conference in the white house with the alleged war criminal netanyahu? the trump gave way outlined, possible ethnic cleansing route for gaza. frankly, i didn't think that i could be in the future stand by anything but material
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bombastic character, donald trump said, but i was, this is, this is just such a flagrant violation of the read space to order if you will, that we fashion, particularly the international law part of it, there's just stunning, absolutely starting. i think this special effort to her all the knees said it correctly. if you wanted to break every law possible to be broken, he did, except while you ins measure up or to or i'll give you a fail to create to cease fire. and i know i get criticized with the left as if i'm trump supports it. yeah. it was trump that allowed the children of guys have to sleep for the 1st time up to 15 months with that aerial bombardment, m is the genocide. and of course, some people to kindly looking on this as saying now is real cars start up the bombing image, these different processes of the ceasefire agreement? because it's the united states land now was this wasn't a humana,
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terry. and jester vital, this really strictly transactional, to go to the jury cushion or dream of a gaza with hotels drop hotels, probably. and other assets or trump likes featured on the mediterranean. say this, i have nothing to do with humanity or in instincts or empathy or seem to be even. and now we're seeing the reality of it. i think the reality of it, however, is the military professional. i have to tell you is not only reasonable, it's extremely dangerous as well if it really was jared questionnaire and a bank of trump's idea. as you imply, there it is reasonable because there's no way i mean you might have to remind or what he is. what exactly he said as regards we, he didn't rule out us troops on the ground to god this perhaps future trump hotel projects in gaza. but while saying that the 2000000 people in guys of which somehow
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became 1.81.6000000, i don't know whether that was an admission to half a 1000000 to being wiped out by british american european union on bombing over the past 15 months. to some of the us troops a going on the ground there. um i go back to colon barrel statement to me on a number of occasions throughout about a decade period. putting us forces on the ground in the law, in a serious for portion that is to say, not just did air force spaces and pass through facilities as we're having to wait. but on a serious basis, war fighting capable basis would be the greatest mistake the united states could make with regard to the bar and possibly with regard to its global position period . on powers, right? you do not, and h w bush actually said there's 2 in the presence of his then sector defense. richard cheney, you do not stop me. enter that calls or i will not put us forces on the ground
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there to stay because all they will be is a disaster waiting to happen. yeah, so, i mean, yeah, they would also cost trillions of dollars and it's all going to happen then. and so some of your other huge question. huge question re, dexter wilkins, just released article in the new yorker magazine. a huge question. where is he going to get these american troops? he's already given northern command, a warning order to seal the southern border, given 3 army divisions, at least for gauge of 2 and a whole division was the 10th mountain orders to go to the southern border. those troops could only cover maybe a 100 kilometers that of that border. there's 3150 kilometers. is that border? where is he going to get these american soldiers? we don't have a draft. we have a volunteer force. it's falling apart, even as i speak is the extra tokens article points out graphically. whereas you're
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going to get these forces. is it going to hire private contractors like i understand right now, and i have video freeze of it apparently from a person who is walking along with the palestinians. who are you for it? even though they were passing through the nazarenes border in the devastation into a more skate they were you for it about going home and on their flags were american hired security contractors, making sure the israelis didn't take advantage of the passage and to even thousands more. so where are we going to get these forces? so you go to higher, higher eric prince and a bunch of private contractors. this is a disaster waiting to happen in dollars by actually doing it from the oval office. but haven't you onto yourself? you said these transactional, it called happened, the troops aren't going to be back guiding you the trump investments that the american people want to go for that. so if it is transactional,
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it will be with the wrong information being provided to him from like waltz perhaps because as you say that he understand. i mean when he go do the mike walks is going when he realizes the, well, it's presumably is the guy telling him saudi arabia or is fine with no palestinian state. i mean, it was very, very late. the release time for the far enough as the problem. what are the saudi arabians going, what are you talking about? basically an immediate response to this outrage all around here. and uh well, it's presumably telling him the palestinians. they don't want to return, they shouldn't return. when it was on, hundreds of thousands have been returning over the past few days to know them guys, it's all wrong. information is being fed. the word is on the street this morning early about 7 am. the vaults is gone. i don't know if that's accurate, but that's the word on the street. when they, there is a n date. there's a history of a national security advisors going quickly. we had john bolton on the other week of course, and hope to get mike flynn,
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who was the 1st one. so that should hopefully signal that trump react very quickly to when he's being made a full out of i would think, so i said earlier, right after the election that there wouldn't be a single one. if they did pass, go with the senate and, and get confirmed, there wouldn't be a single one. it is major cabinet appointees are reasonable for excellent sec tax. i'm always there, all that last is not much at all. we go, that's donald trump, at least. so he said that ron was not a, in a week position. some of that i'm planning to buy administrator for that on like what say, lindsey graham and bizarre of people in your congress is talk about when they, with respect to iran. and the, the possibility of an invasion you're on is just sign that russia deal. you know, with just showed a military cooperation with iran has been showing of new weaponry that at least
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looks off the table. it's just going to be greater way to sanctions. although trump obviously hasn't being told about bricks and then say where i'm talking to you from the you a is now part of a system, a new new drooping with a run. i think that's one thing that i would say is fairly assured in my mind, at least the trump is a gaze, is a us use of force force real force against the wrong um, taking out an occasional or on his he did was the r g c. is one thing, but taking on our honors quite another i think he's been given the whole breezing by different people or different types or and depending on how desperate the circumstance that would great in the united states. not just because we're so woefully short of people in our military, but also because our industrial base is woefully inadequate. we've taken some measures to remedy that, but it's going to take a while is going to take
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a couple of years before we even begin to get going on that. so we don't need to be taking on any more substantial commitments and iran would be a very substantial commitment. 10 years, 2 or 3 trillion dollars, lots of troops of conscription process of draft and other words. and many young people in america go into canada and mexico, who will be the president has been said by net and yeah, well, you believe it, you actually just in the highlighted place, making uninhabitable rather than actually occupying, you know, taking it over. and trump talks about maximum streams using the phrase maximum and then the to the pretty poor journalists, arguably, especially at that. and then, you know, press conference kind of us who will options on the table is a threatening it run with aerial bombardment. as i don't think there's anything that truck won't say as a threat, but i find it very difficult to believe from past experience is 1st term for
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example, the fall through most of those threats. he is purely transactional. he has no empty whatsoever. and very little simplistic, but i don't think he is taking or of the consequences of some of the more drastic actions that they didn't. even he occasionally puts forward and understands what kind of damage it would do to him and then go to re. so i don't think he's going to do anything degrees us in that form, or too many people around him to at least tell him that he's naked on a bob, save some of these things. so i just don't think he's got to do something like that . i don't think he likes war at all and i don't think he understands what he's saying. sometimes when he talks about things that those of us who are at least somewhat schooled in it know will probably lead to war, will lead to more p simply. doesn't believe that until someone sits down with him, with some temerity and courage mentality. as the pentagon has done repeatedly about or with the wrong,
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so he's not netanyahu's poodle memory modeled since poodle. i think this is odd to me. i think i've said there's a number of times i think maritime or mall are wrong in terms of a pack, and it's an influence. there's no question that the jewish lobby has influence and significantly on the congress. but israel is our poodle. they are doing precisely at various times what we want them to do and have been doing that since 1948 when they started out, as the british brutal says, do the britain got a file of the united states fairly quickly. we took over its imperial writ and ever since then with increasing frequency and bloodthirsty this israel has been doing our job in the law. and isn't that the point though, that it's so refreshing to have a person like donald trump in the white house, who says it how, how it is rather than was using wiki leaks to release a memo of blinking. i know jake sullivan, the previous national security advisor,
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sending things to hillary clinton telling about kaiser is on the side of united states. he dropped patello stump patel the american people of that tax dollars was paying. okay. the yeah, the rafters are off. the disguise has gone down to offices, exposure, sorry, wilkinson. i'll stop you that more from before, but chief of staff of the state above. and after this break, the, the, we are not the only, at the threshold of a move you need to a nation relations. but also instrumental because if you look back to the, let's say 3000 to use the addition. many people in all aspects,
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the welcome back to going on the right and i'm still here with the lords wilkinson for cheaper stuff in the us state department. scott, while we were talking about the refreshing nature of it is uh some uh, one in the white as being candid county uh can trump force egypt in jordans hand about the w2w refugees of egypt and jordan and previously always done with washington have told them to can actually do that even though it, those costs the stabilize both those countries. and he has a lot of leverage on both cairo and a hmong more. so on cairo, i understand now, and this is a fairly reliable source, that the objection military would not be paid if it were not for the united states largest going to egypt. i'm sure that is probably even an access to the 3.6 or
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3700000. we give them routinely to bribe them to keep the base trade with israel. and for all modeling, it's probably not equivalent amounts, but it's equivalent to fact. so there's a lot of influence, the united states can exercise there, but it only goes so far. i mean, you're talking about the king and alon, for example, losing control of his country. if you know even a 1000000 of those 2 to plus whatever 1000000 guys in suddenly appeared in jordan and added to the already 6 or $7000000.00. you has to look after it'd be an untenable situation for him. so he's going to be forced to make a hard decision, but i suspect you will make it to balance the money with the problem. and that's not going to do anybody, any good. it'll be a half solution if you will. yeah, king of the do in washington and to me jump on tuesday. of course. uh us a id was a big decision. see a decisions as well offering to everyone in the c ha, all around the world, the,
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the offer to reside and get 8 months a salary. i suppose one uh, i want to get on to ukraine in a moment. what was your immediate reaction? you might have to remind the audience of some of the egregious things usa idea is done over the years because most recently the funding of factories about history in china regarding gain a function code research. but you must have been you must have known us, hey, id intimately at the state department under uh uh, calling about. i certainly did. aid was under andrew knoxville since that time, and i washed the transition and transform ation in u. s. a. it went for a minute organization of fundamentally, bureaucrats, civil service and foreign service running development programs in various countries in the world, in accordance with us express policy. to be a few of those people. very few of those people managing
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a horde of private contractors and that's the u. s. 8 of today. so frankly, is marco rubio and dollar from want to change that entirely. i would stay in the street in the blog because what the did was turn us aide into a fountain of complicity with intelligence services and other n g o's. and quite often groups quite as our government groups who's in tap, either known to them or unknown to them because they were infiltrated by the c. i was over throw government. how would you ride samantha power is a bit sure. she of course, was an administrator. you as a id after being a ambassador in the u. n. for your country. i don't think samantha power knew the half before that i just said. in fact, there are very few people outside the government. cynthia is at work. who know what the united states is doing in places like georgia,
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where it is now trying to over throw the georgia dream party, which has a tenuous hold on power and wants to maintain a balance between nato in one direction and moscow in the other. they're trying to over throw that government, they're working on college or just school in romania, so he won't get elected. they're trying to cast the election against them. so because he's threatened to take romania out of nato, this is what we're doing today all over that region. trying to recruit allies in this vicious struggle that we're behind in ukraine to bleed russia. and we want more l as in doing that, particularly georgia and romania and anybody else small boat that we can get to come into the fight with us at their peril. look at georgia, look at what didn't do the last time. we tried this with my president who went at the blazing and stood beside present, been president, soccer civilian, said george, you would be a member of nato in the very near future to invite you to
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a cause you. and so i'll set you and he still has tension or control over those. next time he'll go all the way to the blue sea. yeah, there were referendums there, of course. as the russian say, i think you're crediting too much ignore instead of samantha power. i think i'm going underground. we've been covering usa id massively in the same vein is national endowment for democracy because you're intimating there with you as a id did in 2014 with the victorian, newland intimate and cool, but i mean, this is great, isn't it? i mean, that's one of them for the welcome. so you can reminder audience what these organizations to be doing is regards to not democracy promotion, reducing democracy. i meanwhile, the new warm a dispute, there are the new arm of the sea. i very sophisticated armor the ca sometimes they, you know, they are older and there have been objections from time to time, from professionals, within the groups. but most of the time they don't know who they are because they've been in sales. right. and sometimes they don't even have to be humans that
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entails right. it's just the policies on the money that i'm sold rights and the objectives that blow their for all. and so they become an arm of the see. i mean, clearly fox news and the like, the dollar drum watch is concentrating on the will guide the all the g elements, but it's all vs. but when he'll a muscle during open the book, he was shocked at the amount of money to the american people realize the scale of the money while their own infrastructure and bridges and a basic, a civilian open architecture is a corroding, understand how much money this ending overseas to destroy democracy and the stabilize countries. the majority of the american people, particularly the 77000000 that voted for donald trump and the 90 maybe. and apparently they didn't vote at all. or what i would call with regard to the maintenance of their country and their republic and their security ultimately brained it, uh for the debt to that. it ranges the gamut from. they don't give a damn to they haven't the knowledge nor the education to get with them. and we're
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in trouble because of that, we have a very, very un educated public, probably the most fun educated public in the o e c. d. countries in the developed countries period and that contributes mildly to the ability of people like you must j, the benz theater deal. and peter deal now talking about taking back south africa for white people as it contributes mightily to their ability to put things over on the american people and to do things that later when they reveal to the light of day. same absolutely mom level. but even then, the american people don't seem to have a whole lot of objections, as long as i doesn't read down personally to their inability to watch taylor swift organ nfl football game or whatever else might still like them. that's what they're really interested in. and i'm not saying that because i'm mad at the american people, i'm saying that because it's a reality, it's a stark reality. we have not taken care of our democracy. we are now taking care of
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of democracy and you pay for that. you pay for that? well, trump got the popular vote in fan is to be american people. but then trump also while uh, trying to an i lady usa i the saw the talking about the need to get ukraine's rarer at the metals in a similar vein to real estate. in garza, does it have mean that there's a quid pro quo because, i mean, i know we're both laughing about that, but it's being the lead full week a for russia i these be the attacking me. i've got to him. once i a lindsey ram, got to it is all those critical minerals. you see what's happening and search laughter right now. these people are killing each other over these critical minerals goes anybody will buy from them and pay them top price. so it's not gold or silver or any of those things that the belgians ripped up central africa over. it's now critical miles and those clinical mentos are fundamentally not totally, but fundamentally they're in the eastern part of ukraine,
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which russia now invest. so you got a problem, dorothy was stop the grading and more and you want those critical minerals at the same time unless you can talk through it. and then this would be smart. this is the transactional president, you get on a plane, you go to moscow, you sit there with the new work out a deal, and then the deal. you work out some provisions for you're getting your share of the critical matters from there and you don't kill anybody and you stop the war. bruce mar, president would do that. but i don't know if we have a pretty smart person. i mean, over the dead bodies of the scale of destruction and ukraine, it's unbelievable that such a transactional policy could be even thought about. but there's no doubt trump right now, whether he knows it or not, through the military, you're 30 year military veteran yourself. the united states has been facilitating what an assassination in russia, a killing an attack drones into russia. it's going on. it's still going on. is
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the matcher of apparently has a sign, an executive orders error this morning. i haven't seen the executive order, but it's not an executive order that sells his posterity. if iran assassinated seem to bomber on, you can make this stuff up. the hollywood director would throw you out of his room . and that's what he said at the press conference. that the whole of iran would be presumably nuclear bombed if he was assassinated, which presumably would only be part of the radium policy because he's not allowing it running to m u. k weapons in iran anyways, as they no one does insuring the hardliners in general. and just say we do one nuclear weapons. well, i watch draws researchers one of the few people in the, around the entire okay. now that i listen to and pay attention to at the devil's on when he was being interviewed. i think it was by uh, 3 duck cover, secaria. and if you read between the lines of was the re said he was saying,
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we'll do a deal. i'm on president. trump will do it the a will gave you the deal is entry. will give you a deal that doesn't have a 25 year sunset will give you a deal where we will at least admit to talking about other issues like our boost and ma'am ballistic missiles and so forth. we'll give you a do. let's do it here. and then you can go back to saudi arabia and you can say you got a deal or honors not going to be in your power. i assure you to do work. and we can go ahead with the long gated extended and much more expensive abraham. and towards that moment, been solomon has in mind that's at the bottom of some of this, the trump is talking about with regard to god. but the saudis are not going to go all down and he's just walked right in the bus. so if he thinks they are, yeah, and the raining government though, seemingly desperate for this deal because this separating palestine from the j. c. p, a new j. c. buick,
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a nuclear deal. but just find the balance of the most serious, the elements of world policy, nuclear disarmament of a possible use transactional, bizarre will be a dangerous conflict. can we expect the most important element between food and drug will be the resumption of some kind of uh, start treaty, some kind of treaty to restore a nuclear arms reduction to make live safer. certainly should be. and if i did make that trip to moscow, sit down with food and by the way, i'd go back even wait, it's the landscape and hope that when i flew back and came over to you, you would have been assassinated anyway. i would say to susan, oh, by the way, we're through with this deal pretty much now we need to talk about not just a bilateral treaty in this new girl arms business, but a multilateral treaty. you drag north korea and, and all drag israel and we need all 9 nuclear weapons opening states to be and this
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multilateral treaty was your name that you and i are going to forage and take the credit for. oh yeah, we can run over to beijing and gives you easy and paying a little bit of credit board to it goes, we need him also. but let's forge a new treaty environment. that is, you know, pretty, pretty robust and will work most of the time it leaves and hope the time it doesn't work is not the end of the world. and let's get a handle on these most dangerous weapons, which, by the way, you and i possess about 10000 all that would be a real historical achievement and a marker for his presidency. i hope you would think that way about it, but i don't know because i don't think is advisors any think that what does the gab or she could be an exception? you're right. she could be an exception to larry. well, because and thank you charlotte. that's it. for the show,
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well we were trying to guys on monday to further explore the reverberations of u. s. u. k. u um, genocide told me to be the by not to about his book being jewish, often destruction of guys a reckoning until then keep in touch by little a social media results as of a new a country and a drug channel going other going to be hon. they'll come to watching you and all the episodes are going on to go and see him under the the . there is no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy the earth. is the case of the med, most of the people i tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also a pursuit. this is the 3rd world will receive re washington press for so the funder
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line likes to say, we have the tools while we just start with stability and business deals to living on campus. that includes propaganda. you know, a price here in new york. i think we don't know the aftermath any time that you're not allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the questions. some more questions ask a better. the answer is will be such element as of or grace gives this little bit much of the opportunity sports which commend immutable seo to senior for sabrina bridge. if for example, as i said, i was just going to get upset so that we can get a grass case before, but the colors supplemented more for interest. give old sample of mute on the virginia, but only do you too much too much to do to get i see a total credit on it that way. i can sign it at all. but i mean if time is something we need to go to pennsylvania way to to get the quotes get this renewal. so the.
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