[000:00:00;00] the of the the hello and welcome to role is a part of the know be ration of donald trump has usher them a couple of new phrases into the geo political in for an actual or in addition to familiar references to great deals. he's officials in pricing, we talk about diffusion of ideas and human florida showing what's the need for the rest of us as to trump is making its trumpeting re entry onto the global stage of

to discuss that i'm now joined by chevy. at han rector of alton boss university in turkey. professor sean is great to talk to thank you very much for your time. thank you. now the trumpet, ministration has come in with a big bang more than 50 executive orders signed in. less than a week. most of them with a marker. what's your impression of this new teams so far? in fact, be sure to be aware that it's not new. it's the 2nd term of trump administration for the people around whom i could defend this time. yes, he changed, but i think he has some experience from his previous posting the lighthouse as well . and he has some job that's where the stopped by to buy them at the station. so that will be a continuation of the previous to, but they're submitting you at ideas and these ideas. and that's is only about the domestic politics of the united states, but also about the economy, but also about global economic global,

the international system. so now we're at the beginning of a new era, as well as i understand. and trump is tied to the task form the system, both in the united states and the work as a trustee. so seems to be very show we on the, on the surface. but so far, he's had most of his cabin is no minis approved by the congress. he is also managed to reach some tentative international deals with mexico with the panama. so, so far it seems that he's doing well. what do you think? i'm going to be the main challenges of he's administration. first of all, we should be the mind that the united states system, the executive power, is balanced by congress. therefore, though, we don't know whether the congress will the senate and the cause of representatives with improve drums policy. so at least for the time being for the next 2 years,

we know that he has the major a to the, the west system is quite different in the continental european system. so whether the majority, both the chambers of the congress is republicans, it doesn't necessarily mean that or because we'll approve his policies. so it is the number one question, the other one that the united states is not that long invest in birth. you of us has elyse both in nature in europe and the other with other places of divert, therefore, a from the 1st moment. so if he's prison, cvc, there are some reactions, some criticism from a, it's elyse and both in europe and the middle east and asia. therefore, we do not see at the action that can result as the plants conclusion that may be some obstacles on the road. you wrote that one

of the main focuses for trump. i'm the attack restore christy around him will be trying to gather all the artificial intelligence technology in the world with them center. it's within the united states to create or sort of a new warm off of global feudalism in its uh, digital interpretation. do you think that's possible? is that a realistic project? at this point of time, we are not only at the trash hold off as need be locked in international relations, but also instrumental. because if you look back to the, let's say 3000 to use a different magnitude developed in all aspects, from economy to military, to health, etc. but not often, they will, once they're in such an event, just as to be, has witnessed within the last 10 years. and each and every moment we have these

technological improvements need inventions which will delete everything and we'll change everything and we have tasks for me. everything was i made a, it was an on order oci and that's i compare the mid eighties the 80s, the european system of dozens and what is going on now in the western european system offensive. and there was an empire and with the emperor's indicates and the lots and the stairs, there was an unwritten cool nation or compromise that they had done some responsibilities to each other. there was a hierarchy essentially what you say was the guy was a higher attend, that was a written, a commitment to each other. let's say when it will damper us for, let's say, soldiers thinks where is sending them. and then were there was a legacy problem between the kinks, then emperor will fold up towards the end. and that's what i like about your idea

of, uh, sort of new rendition of global feudalism is that essentially, you are arguing that the west or the united states will try to re impose the system once again onto the world in the digital form. now the question that i had is whether 1st of all i find it's rather paradoxical, that it's the united states that would be trying to do those things because this country was born out of the idea to break out of the imperial. and you know, you're repeating kingship, feudalism mentality, but now they are sort of spearheading that transformation. yep. again. but then the biggest question that i have in my mind is whether this is a new form of globalization, essentially in the digital phone. because americans a want to keep the control over the entire system and be they want still to a rating the profits for themselves. okay, trust to history, the domina powers, let's say, seems a sci fi century. best thing you can publish like space park,

it goes the doctor, probably 10 page which empire has united space. they've had some tools to control the global system, like a very big army, strong army in control of the economy, controlling keep trade routes, and using theory language as lingua franca, and exporting to day or wall to other states. now there's an addition to this big in east too much east take dollars. where were the also take donors? she cool it were. you will office to take tone again. contrast that they told her she come to us to go see here, talking about artificial intelligence, the if you feel intelligence, only it is technology as a whole table show intelligence is the most important component of 5th ads is of course, nowadays. yes. speaking about learning, artificial intelligence, mckennan since now i agree with you that for the last 500 curious,

that's what he repeating powers did both with imposing the customs di last, that values that technology on to the other countries. but one would argue that the world has changed in their many other nations for developing not only their version of a to so, so intelligence and sort of testing it on the, in the own languages in their own cultural values. but they also have a new sense of their own identity given this a new level of taking a logical proficiency of others. and that a wall can sense of, you know, national 5 national identity. do you think they would be, want to be brought under these? and you know, new feudal role meet the key word both in the previous field rules and the really emerging one is the content. i mean, nothing can be done possibly for them for you. and if you have the strongest army, as you mentioned, to people,

the nation's 10 racist against your in positions have been work. we see many of the nations seeing that the leader in the system who pushed the rules and who browse tools can give you some benefit says of. therefore, we have seen at emotions of content the nations will them truly say yes, we see you as a leader of this, you sent them from nations, right? not all of them, of course, they say we will until we see you as the leader and the deep brother of this new system. and it will benefit from it and he will benefit from it. so that's why i made an analogy with defer the listen. it is not the reason anywhere. it is not pretending the chatter will. so united nations, charter, save old nations, small or beat are echoes but now they're somewhat more equal than the other. so um,

i think that's arguable but um, i wanna ask you this uh, trunk decree on removing off that goes to the us leadership in the field. the 1st official intelligence i think is very interesting and worth it. because on the one hand it uses leadership and dominance as total synonyms, there used interchangeably, them. it also states that the goal of these primacy that the americans are vying to preserve is to promote human flourishing. this is the phrase that i see. i hear people around trump use a lot human flourishing. how do you understand it? what do you think they mean when they keep appealing kids versus you have to see that it is not found origin of impatient to take some the most about the different jo intelligence each was biting biden's immunization in its final base. they buy them signs and decrees, and pester,

deals about artificial intelligence and youth root all most the exclusive div folder, right? so fact, if you shipment these intelligence to united states and both countries which united states i love top is now taking gift cert and phase or k. if you are with me to develop artificial intelligence, i can share that with you as much as i want to share. but if you go and do enter into some kind of partnership with other countries such as china, so you're against. therefore, this is a top type international relations understanding because previous tvs so the same think good either with me or against me. absolutely, but it's a to some extent only in language, it's a wishful thinking that the americans want to have dominance. they want to have dominance, that's what they say,

but we want to control. but the question is whether the other nations actually getting the benefits rather than a being sold director rick about the benefits you see that the distinction here in your estimate estimation of the trump administration so far, do you think they will deliver the goodies that they promise i don't know, it's up to the countries because many of the country school they enter into a compromise between united states. well it's, it's a compromise to sell the national sol essentially. is it? oh, i don't think so. it depends on the system of all the regime of discount. i mean in some countries and what the case about the people's, so the only thing the full think off the government is to keep their seats. so if they got a protection from united states then thinking you what the united states wants and it is also rather for other countries. so these kind of relationship is not only between the united states and these, some countries,

but also between some other countries. some say ok, do you want to sit on your seat is a freaking company. ok team it is mine and let's say the license and i will protect you. so this is an rule. i mean it's a, it isn't, that's maybe a little. it isn't. that's maybe it within the international in, in a if there's a practice of international relations. well, uh sir, it's a practice of this program to take a short break in the middle. but we will be back in just a couple of minutes statement. the, the, the,

[000:00:00;00] the, [000:00:00;00] the the welcome back to world support with the chevy of hum rector of often bush university in turkey. before the break. so you

started talking about our artificial intelligence and much has been sad about it, is potentially radically changing all areas of human activity from employment to social relations. i'm even say personal human relations. i'm here. if you look at trump, he's somewhat for doc sickle because he's also somebody who is in favor of say, safe guarding some traditional human values like you know, traditional views of the gender, traditional views of the marriage, a certain limitations on abortions, etc. and he's also set to be a believer in god and providence as something that allowed him to or survive to assess the nation attempts. now, based on your intrusion, because there is no way of knowing that for sure. but based on your intuition, may he be somebody or, you know, may, he's administer stress, shouldn't be an actor that's way to preserve certain human values and prevent them from either corruption,

by the new progressive is ethics or biased official intelligence. for that matter, i hope so, because it's not a problem of american society only. it's a problem of all humanity. and it's not only depending on what mr. trump, they'll do, but also for other rulers and other legislation. so of all countries that artificial intelligence is like in life, you can cut the bread, you can cut the meat, but you can also to, to, people tend to those will think of it. there's a, the ongoing discussion among the political sciences fulfilled is just everyone, whether technology and to values a can be a rum separately. i mean, to me, let's say for, for, for 100 p is we have such a debate in my country into kia can be only take that takes an old version of the

west and keep our values is also valid for japan. cammie import technology only. and keep our values. in fact, it's very difficult because these both affects each other. so at the very beginning, the united states and all other countries should make regulations to protect human values, human dignity, a from that you will associate donation. well, this is such an important and also very difficult question because there are many conventions on august the 1 drives but 3 and now that they have been used as a vehicle to promote quote unquote western values. but since you mentioned the issue of philosophy, i think it's not only fulfill officer, but also find many religious systems. there is a problem, is that at the core of human humanity, something say create something that cannot be sold or bought. do you think trump believes in such

a notion that there's something that is off limits that cannot be uh you know, what may be a part of a big deal then the token do believe it is something between us and god. therefore, i don't know. i don't know any, i don't see any implications that she has lead something because of his belief. but he says something politically, he won't, the election came to power and he has some promises commitments to american people about the american values. i'm making family system and it will other things. but what i am talking, yes, and that's only about the american people. all the people living living in the room . now we are entering in new age and in this age, machine is learning. and if day i would give machines the staff to st and change something,

we got an order from the few months. what will happen? so from the beginning, at 8th is not $56.00. you absolutely one whatever reason or shut insights friction, these become a real real, that's all the of the day. it boils down to a problem of a tool versus an agent. then whether you're giving some of your consciousness, consciousness, conscious decisions, soul decisions over to the machine. and it's a, it's a question, i think not even from the governments to make it says right now, we have to take this as in even a problem on the table. we should make 1st national spending 10 national legal nations and take any action to prevent featured off our generations from the evils of the unknown. because we don't know to up to that

a little girl just one year ago. i just, you know, download. it's an active shooting, cabbages application within t 3 months. the speeds and the capacity 100 times growth, and we do one year. now it is $400.00 times faster. absolutely, but processor or hon, i'm in it. some people make it sound very complicated, but at the end of the day is still on your phone. and this how you relate to your children, how you relate to your, you know, parents, your neighbors is still a personal question and it's done without any the inside your mouth on this goose and those. i mean, at the personal level, we shouldn't be conscious and be very careful about using this technology, but nation of levels, it is government's responsibility. now, if you have such a technology, and if the see the, you know, features that we have to take some measures both and legal antennae in nation of

levels and any to national level. that's what i am talking to you about. now i still have one question about the, the trump administration. i wanted to ask you about ellen last come here, described as embodying the pragmatism of cards in algebra, show here and beat technology supported impressiveness of pretty good at us. put him into hell as a russian. i'm very much impressed with the 2nd part of the comparison. that doesn't keep me aware that it was the presence of a rest pushing that the he was ready for the actual actually literally he was very cousins, cousin method. charismatic and mystical person to deliver and guide you, be me don't know. we only know a little about how he introduced us out. and this, i think, in russia there have been extensive research on that subject. but the one thing we know for sure is that it was his presence of the word that led to the down full of these are assembly and ultimately the imperial russia. as a state,

do you think the presence of a even mosque donald trump scores could have a similar impact either on donald trump or on america as a he's a very clever guy. that's some or if he's a or targets or escalations are very if you no problem at the, for the rest of traverse for instance, he was speaking in an interview to i think can you single and he was asked, oh, you're talking about sending some space rockets to twice and ski create a call on it, it will take you to send years maybe dictates to create it accordingly. and he has it. why don't you think that at the same time i consent, 401004 gets to the most. so she has such an inspiration, so, but old is money. very feel comfortable because it does any mess with. yes,

we can seem give lots, infiniti, m c a, you know, projects. but you need the financial resources and it creates resources to reach this solution so far, very successful in funding his own enterprise. i have, i don't know whether it's worth who has it this way? yeah. what school the american society is thinking about is if they are a priority to load the information and increase their employment or sending some real customers and create a quote on the dash. and now uh, in the last couple of minutes that i have, i wanna ask you about, um, international politics you have recently before the, uh, trump may attempt to cool down cold by vladimir, put in support. uh, in applying a some pressure against china. do you think fresh position on this issue is for sale?

i know i'm not talking about selling going buying. i didn't write such etc. i am thinking that your russia is invest in country. from the beginning you say you repeat country is a part of your family. so i believe it's not a very appreciative isn't actually i think that assembly to be honest with, you know, i'm talking to about as a, as a to time seen crush as a part of your it's searching is also proud of being here. you know, both in years with age and i sent a subject to being proud or full size. the reality in the, from previous the enough is paul king. that china is united states number one rivals. and maybe it can be, so if you are seeing china as a and then you want, i mean, trump, does he want more elyse around change? or is do you want to take a life of china one by one to cite of united states?

i am talking to you about i understand the logic, but i mean it's not only about what donald trump ones, it's also about. i whole rushes old vision of itself. course. the roger sees itself as a great nation, and that includes, you know, respect of your own interest, but also respect of your own allies and, you know, respecting the word, the obligation flores. but if at the end, it is a great just walk, the virt, russia, and united states are the powers. so at the end, when mr. trump them, so 14 will meet. they will not only speak about the situation, ok. they will speak about the other part. so toward, as well, and as, as far as i understand from trump's policy, tom's want to pull russia from sight of china to his site. and of course,

he has to do something to do this. and russia should also make analyzes, for each own nation, with interest in finding another license. all countries is moving their international relations depending on the national interest. absolutely, and i think which and said that on the, on many occasions that she wants to have a friendly relationship with the united states as well as so you know, many of the european neighbors, but russian will not accept any solver and joe political summer and over anything, you know, speaking about what we had talked uh, you know, they, the, your earlier theme of feudalism. do you think it would be a sucked to both to the trump administration, to have russia as an equal partner, but not as one of the, you know, subservient, younger brothers. it depends what to be a trump day and what feels the pressure test. so it is all the

international relations history is eh, he's through a 5 minute negotiation. some think is doing something is take. so this is that this very day, the 18th anniversary of delta conference, the anti fascist airlines. they gather thing delta. and they want to say, considered war against nothing. germany and japan this time united states. so it's unions compared to the lice against germany. so if you look at the minutes of conferencing, yells, and results, it was not only about the war against germany. it was about re shaping convert. they established the united nations. they called for san francisco conference, and then they establish a new york system. therefore, i believe if a mr. trump, i mean simple team come together and meet and start speak. it will not be only bilateral relations or fresh and united states, but if you'll be a much more or less kale of desperation,

discussions about the future of conduct. can i ask you one last question? you mentioned bargaining, and i enjoy bargaining. a 2 categories are as very much and everybody who has done it and knows the, the asking price and the sort of the final deal price may be very, very different. do you think trump has the capacity of sustaining the bargaining process? not only aggressively pushing for his prize, but also playing along, playing the whole game. when you argue indefinitely and only at the end of it come up with some, you know, mutually agreeable solution. does he have b? that's cool. okay. all like at 1st timers, christie nice stumble, grandfather pool teen and trump most each other very well. so it's not the starting price anyway. so if they come and negotiate, they know they are, why they tool capacities they and powers what they need. exactly. so it's not like

the tourist got, but i mean, i love to even get the money to a cheaper cheaper carpet. well, thank you very much for being with us. thank you. and thank you for watching off the sir again on worlds apart. the, [000:00:00;00] the there's no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy the earth. is the case for the med, most of the people. i tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also of soon. this is the 3rd

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