[000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to role as a part of your ration of donald trump has usher, then a couple of new phrases into the geo political for an actual or in addition to familiar references to create deals, he's officials increasing. we talk about diffusion of ideas and human flowing machine. what's the need for the rest of us as to trump? is making its trumpeting re entry onto the global stage of to discuss that i'm now joined by chevy at han rector of alton boss university in turkey. professor sean is great to talk to thank you very much for your time. thank you. now the trumpet, ministration has come in with a big bang, more than 50 executive orders signed in less than a week. most of them with a marker. what's your impression of this new teams so far? exactly?

sure. to be aware that it's not, can you is the 2nd term of the trump administration for the people around the mcquaid defend this time? yes, he changed, but i think he has some experience from his previous post in the lighthouse as well . and he has some job that's where the stopped by to the, by the situation. so that will be a continuation of the previous to, but they're submitting you at ideas. and these ideas not is only about the domestic politics of the united states, but also about the economy, but also about global economy and global the international system. so now we are at the beginning of a new era as that, as i understand. and trump is tied to the task form the system, both in the united states and the vert as a trustee. so it seems to be very shortly on the,

on the surface. but so far he's to had most of his cabinet nominees approved by the congress. he is also managed to reach some tentative international deals with mexico with panama. so, so far it seems that he's doing well. what do you think? i'm going to be the main challenges of his administration. if 1st of all, we should be the mind that the united states system, the executive power, is balanced by congress. and therefore, we don't know whether the congress will the senate and house of representatives will improve trumps policy. you know, at least for the time being for the next 2 years, we know that he has a but a double major in the west system is quite different in the continental european system. so whether the majority, both the chambers of the congress is republicans, it doesn't necessarily mean that or because we'll approve his policies. so it is

the number one question, the other one that the united states is not that long. invest in bert a of us has elyse, both in nature in europe and other with other places of to vote. therefore, a from the 1st moment. so if he's prison, cvc, there are some reactions, some criticism from a, it's elyse, a boss in europe and the middle east and asia. therefore, we do not see at the action that can result as the plants conclusion that may be some of stick us on the wrong. you wrote that one of the main focuses for trump. i'm the attack aristocracy around him will be trying to gather all the artificial intelligence technology in the world with them center. it's within the united states to create or sort of a new form of a global feudalism in. and it's

a digital interpretation. do you think that's possible? is that a realistic project at this point of time, we are not only at the trash hold off at the lock in international relations, but also instrumental because if you look back to the, let's say 3000 to use a different magnitude developed in all aspects from economy to military, to health, etc, but not often they will months. there in such an event, just as we have witnessed within the last 10 years. and each and every moment we have these technological improvements, media conventions which will delete everything. and we'll change everything. and we have tasks for me, everything was i made a, it was an on order oci and that's icon pay at the mid eighties, the rest,

the european system of the buildings and what is going on now in the less than the european system of federalism. there was an emperor and with the emperor and the kings and the lots and the status that was an unwritten cool nation, or compromise that they had done some responsibilities to each other. there was a hierarchy essentially what use the was a higher can. there was a reason, a commitment to each other, let's say when it will damper us for the say soldiers kinks where is sending them and then were there was a legacy problem between the kinks. then emperor will fold up towards the end. and that's what i like about your idea of, uh, sort of new rendition of a global feudalism is that essentially, you are arguing that the west or the united states will try to re impose the system once again onto the world in the digital form. now the question that i have is whether 1st of all i find it's rather paradoxical that it's the united states that

would be trying to do those things because this kind, she was born out of the idea to break out of the imperial. and you know, european kingship, feudalism mentality, but now they are sort of spearheading that transformation. yep. again. but then the biggest question that i have in my mind is whether this is a new form of globalization, essentially in the digital form. because americans a want to keep the control over the entire system and be, and they want still to original the profits for themselves. okay, try to history the government of powers. let's say sean's a sci fi century. best thing. you can powers like spain porter go. the doctor probably didn't change, but you can't buy a and united states. they've had some tools to control the global system. like, yeah, that'd be army strong army control and the economy controlling keep trade routes

and using their language as lingua franca and exporting to day or wall to other states. now there's an addition to this big in east too much is take dollars . where were the also take? notice she who were and he loves to take tony again, come trusted faithfully. she come to us to go see here talking about artificial intelligence. the if you feel intelligence, only it is technology. it has a hold of a really intelligence ease. the most important component of 5th ads is of course now these, yes, speaking be about learning artificial intelligence mechanisms. now i agree with you that for the last 500 years, that's what he or p and powers did. both with imposing the customs di laws that values that technology on to the other countries. but one would argue that the world has changed in their many other nations for developing not only that version of artificial intelligence and sort of testing it on that and own languages in

their own cultural values. but they also have a new sense of the own identity given these a new level of different, logical proficiency or bothers on the a wall consensus of, you know, national 5 national identity. do you think they would be, want to be brought under these? and you know, new feudal role the, the keyword both in the previous field old rules and the, even the emerging kwan is the content. i mean, nothing can be done possibly for ambush. even if you have the strongest army, as you mentioned, the people, the nations can resist against your in positions. however, we see many of the nations seeing that the leader in the system will push the rules and co browse tools can give you some benefits as of. therefore,

we have seen at emotion stuff content here. nations will them truly say yes, we see you as a leader of this, you see some nations right? not all of them. of course, they say we will until we see you as the leader, as the big brother of the new system, they will benefit from it and he will benefit from it. so that's why i made that analogy. we defer the listen. it is not the reason anywhere. it is not pretending the chatter of the united nations charter save old nations small or beat are echoes, but now they're somewhat more equal than the other. so i think that's arguable. but um, i wanna ask you this terms, decree on removing obstacles to the us leadership in the field. the 1st official intelligence i think is very interesting and worth it because on the one hand it uses leadership and dominance. as total synonyms,

they're used interchangeably. and then it also states that the goal of this primacy, that the americans are buying to preserve is to promote human flourishing. this is the phrase that i see. i hear people around trump use a lot human flourishing. how do you understand it? what do you think they mean when they keep appealing kids, versus if you have to see that it is not tom's origin of emission to take some the most about the different jo intelligence effects by to biden's immunization in its final base. they buy them signs and decrees and pass the bills about artificial intelligence needs, which all most the exclusive div folder, right? so fact, if your shipment is intelligent to united states and both countries which united states i love, trump is now taking gift for and phase or k. if you are with me to develop artificial intelligence,

i can share this with you as much as i want to share. but if you go and do enter into some kind of partnership with other countries such as china, so you're against. therefore, this is a top type international relations understanding because previously me, so the same think good either with me or against me. absolutely, but it's a to some extent only in language, it's a wishful thinking that the americans want to have done and then they want to have dominance. that's what they say that we want to control. but the question is whether the of the nation's actually getting the benefits rather than a being sold the rhetoric about the benefits. you see that the distinction here in your estimate estimation of the trump administration. so if i do think they will deliver the goodies that they promise,

i don't know it's up to the countries because many of the country school they enter into a compromise between united states. well it's, it's a compromise to sell the national sol, essentially. is it the, i don't think so, it depends on the system of all the regime of this country. i mean, in some countries and what the case about the people's so the on the think, the full think off the government is to keep their seats. so if they got on the protection from united states then thinking you what, what do you like to say for once? and it is also valid for other countries. so these kind of relationship is not only between the united states and these some countries, but also between some other countries. some say, okay, do you want to sit on your seat? is a freaking company. ok, team it is mine and let's say license and i will protect you. so this is, this is an rule. i mean it's, it, it isn't, that's maybe a little. it isn't. that's maybe it within the international in, in the if there's

a practice of international relations. well, uh versus, or how it's a practice of this program to take a short break in the middle. but we will be back in just a couple of minutes statement. the, the, the bulk of the wall claimed and ruined the lines of tens of thousands, but it was the hague tribunal, with delta finishing flow to the less on the expand on. yeah, it was that i will talk to you about all of that will cause of the furious time you members that the rest of your stuff or some which in the funded the as man, i'm guessing he took the f one easier, but to so mutual blood that's through you guys are throwing in eco so

tired out table. i'll a cousin built around what sort of on teams so so so the, so the evictions or for something to bit jane stuff. as i've done this for the bus, they have to go into just us as i so the, so now click on the nice to cover the probably the 1st one noticed was that some of the there is no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy the earth is the case for the mess. and as of the people, i tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also absurd. this is the 3rd world lunacy re washing press for so the funder line likes to say we have the tools while we just start with stability and business deals to help me living on that. we have very close propaganda. you know, price here in new york. i think we don't know the aftermath any time that you're not allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the questions. some more questions, ask a better. the answer is,

will be the welcome back to wells, a part with the chevy of hum rector of alton bus university in turkey. and before the break, we have started talking about with our artificial intelligence and much has been sad about it, is potentially and radically changing all areas of human activity from employment to social relations. i'm even say personal human relations. i'm here. if you look at trump, he's somewhat for adults that go because he's also somebody who is in favor of say, safe guarding some traditional human values like you know, traditional views of the gender, traditional views of the marriage, a 2nd limitations on abortions, etc. and he's also set to be

a believer in god and providence as something that allowed him to or survive to assess the nation attempts. now, based on your intrusion, because there is no way of knowing that for sure. but based on your intuition, may he be somebody or, you know, macy's administration be enacted that's will preserve certain human values and prevent them from either corruption by the new progressive is ethics or biased official intelligence for that matter. i hope so, because it's not a problem of american society only. it's a problem of both humanity. and it's not only depending on what mr. trump feels do, but also for other rulers and other legislation. so all countries, the artificial intelligence is like in life, you can cut the bread, you can cut the meat, but you can also to, to, people tend to those will think of it. there's a,

the ongoing discussion among the political sciences fulfilled us just everyone read their technology and the values a can be a rum separately. i mean, tell me, let's say for, for, for 100 p is we have such a debate in my country into kia. can we only take that takes an old version of the west and keep our values is also valid for japan, cammie, import technology only and keep our values. in fact, it's very difficult because these both affects each other. so at the very beginning, the united states and all other countries should make regulations to protect human values, human dignity, a from the evils of take donation. well, this is such an important that all severe and difficult question because there are many conventions on august human drives, but 3 and so that they have been used as

a vehicle to promote quote unquote western values. but since you mentioned the issue of philadelphia, i think it's not only fulfill officer, but also find many religious systems. there is a problem, is that at the core of human humanities, something say, crypt, something that cannot be sold or bought? do you think trump believes in such a notion that there's something that is off limits that cannot be a you know what made by parts of a big deal, then the token do of the lease. it is something between us and god. therefore, i don't know. i don't know any, i don't see any implications that she has blink something because of his belief. but he says something politically, he won't, the elections came to power. and he has some promises commitments to american people about the american values. i'm making family system and it will other things

. but what i am talking, yes. and that's only about the american people, all the people living living in the world. now pierre and shrink and u h. and in this age machine is learning. and if they haven't good machines that start to st and change something, me dot an older from the few months. what will happen? so from the beginning, it has about $56.00. you absolutely the whatever reason or shut insights friction, these become a real, real to the of the day. it boils down to a problem of a tool versus an agent. then whether you're giving some of your consciousness, consciousness, conscious decisions, soul decisions over to the machine. and it's a, it's a question, i think not even for the governments to make, it says are so we have to take this as in even

a problem on the tables. we should make 1st national and international regulations and take any action to prevent future off or generations from the use of the unknown because we don't know to up to that. it's still good. just one. here we go. i just, you know, download. it's an active shooting cabbages application within t t months. the speed and the capacity a 100 times got and we do one year. now it is $400.00 times faster. absolutely, but processor are hon. i'm in it. some people make it sound very complicated, but at the end of the day is still on your phone. and this is how you relate to your children, how you relate to your, you know, parents, your neighbors is still a personal question and it's done without any the inside of your mouth. only goose and those. i mean, personally, well,

we shouldn't be cautious and be very careful about using this technology. but in nation of levels, it is government's responsibility. now if you have such a technology, and if we see the unknown features, then we have to take some measures both and legal intent, a nation of levels and any to national level. that's what i am talking about. now i, i still have one question about the, the temp administration i wanted to ask you about last come here, described as embodying the pragmatism of cards in algebra, show here and beat technology supported impressiveness of pretty good at us. put him into well, as i rushing, i'm very much impressed with the 2nd part of the comparison because i'm q me aware that it was the presence of a recipe, which in that the regime for the actual absolutely. he was very cousin because

method charismatic and mystical person the believer and god, you be me, don't know. we only know a little about how he introduced us out. and this, i think, in russia there have been extensive research in that subject. but one thing we know for sure as though it was his presence at the word that led to the down full of bizarre assembly and ultimately be imperial to russia. as a state, do you think the presence of a even mosque donald trump scores could have a similar impact either on donald trump or on america as a he's a very clever guy. that's some or if he's a, the targets for escalation are very a no problem. i think for the rest of traverse, for instance, he was speaking in an interview to i think, can you single and he was asked, oh, you're talking about sending some space rockets to 2 months and create a quote on it. yeah,

it will take us in years maybe dictates to create it accordingly. and he has it. why don't you think that at the same time i consent, 401004 gets to the most. so she has such an inspiration. so, but old is money, very feel comfortable because it is an investment. yes, we have seen give us a very fancy the you know, projects, but you need the financial resources and it creates resources to reach this solution so far are very successful in funding his own enterprise. well, i don't know whether it's roof, who has the it is way. yeah. what's build the american society? the think about is if they are a priority to load the information and increase their employment or sending some real customers and create a quote on the dash. and now uh, in the last couple of minutes that i have,

i wanna ask you about, um, international politics you have recently before the trump may attempt to quote unquote, by lodging or put in support. uh, in applying some pressure against china. do you think versus position on this issue is for sale? i know i'm not talking about selling going buying. i didn't buy such a thing. i am thinking that to your russia is invest in country, is from the beginning. you say you repeat country is a part of your family. so i believe it's not very appreciated. that doesn't actually have seen fit, assemble it to be honest with, you know, i'm talking about is a to time seeing crush as a part of europe. it's clear searching is also proud of being here, you know, both in years with age and i sent a subject to being proud of those ice the reality in the from previously. and now

he's talking that china, that is united states number one, rivals, and maybe it can be. so if you are seen china as a and we want, i mean trump, does he want more elyse around china? or is do you want to take a life of china one by one to side of united states? i am talking to you about i understand the logic, but i mean, it's not only about what donald trump ones, it's also about. i hope russia's own vision of itself. the goal is the roger sees itself as a great nation, and that includes, you know, respect of your own interest, but also respect of your own allies and you know, respecting the word, the obligation of course. but if at the end, it is a great checkbook, the vert, russia, and united states are the powers. so at the end, when mr. trump and mr. pool team will meet,

they will not only speak about the association. they will speak about the other part. so toward, as well, and as as fun, as i understand from trump's policy, tom's want to pull russia from sight of china to his site. and of course, he has to do something to do this. and russia should also make analyzes, or for east or nation. really interested in finding the nicest old countries is moving to their international relations depending on the national interest. absolutely, and i think which and said that on the, on many occasions actually wants to have a friendly relationship with the united states as well as so you know, many of the european neighbors, but russian will not accept any solver in your political summer and overhead you know, speaking about what we had talked uh, you know, they, your earlier theme of feudalism. do you think it would be

a sucked to both to the trump administration, to have russia as an equal partner, but not as one of the, you know, subservient, younger brothers. it depends what we'll trump take, can lots of the russia. so it is, well, the international relations history is an issue, a 5 minute negotiation. some think is doing something is take. so this is that this very day is the 18th anniversary of delta conference. the anti fascist airlines. they gather thing delta, and they want to say, consort will raise nothing germany and japan this time united states. so it's unions and there's a lice agents to germany. so if you look at the minutes of conferencing, yells, and the results, it was not only about the war against germany,

it was about re shaping convert. they established the united nations, they called for san francisco conference, and then they establish a new york system. therefore, i believe if a mr. trump, i'm used to put team come together and meet and start speech. it will not be only bilateral relations or fresh and united states. but if it will be a much more or less kale off the delegation discussions about the future of developed, can i ask you one last question? you mentioned bargaining, and i enjoy bargaining. a 2 categories are as very much and everybody who has done it and knows the, the asking price and the sort of the final deal price may be very, very different. do you think chance has the capacity of sustaining the bargaining process not only aggressively pushing for his prize, but also playing alone playing the coal game? when you argue indefinitely and only the end of it come up with some, you know,

mutually agreeable solution. does he have the that's cool. okay. all like at 1st timers, choice the stumble grandfather put in and trump most each other very well. so it's not the starting price anyway. so if they come and negotiate, they know they are by they to capacities they empowers what they need. exactly. so it's not like the tourist good because a lot of you can get the money to a cheaper cheaper carpets. well, thank you very much for being with us. thank you. and thank you for watching hospice sir. again on worlds apart. the, the, the,

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