washing, what's that means for the rest of us as to trump is making its trumpeting re entry onto the global stage of to discuss it. i'm now joined by chevy, of hon. rector of alton boss university in turkey. professor sean is great to talk to thank you very much for your time. thank you. now the trump administration has come in with a big bang more than 50 executive orders signed in less than a week. most of them with a marker. what's your impression of this new teams so far? in fact, be sure to be aware that it's not new. it's the 2nd term of the trump administration for the people around him, i quite defend this time. yes, he changed, but i think he has some experience from his previous post in the lighthouse as well . and he has some job that's were stopped by to the by the installation. so that it will be a continuation of the previous term. but they're submitting you at ideas,

and these ideas not is only about the domestic politics of the united states, but also about the economy, but also about the global economy and global the international system. so now we are at the beginning of a new era, a status i understand, and trump is started to task for the system, both in the united states. and the work as a trustee though seems to be very show we on the, on the surface. but so far, he's had most of his cabin is no minis approved by the congress. he's also managed to reach some tentative international deals with mexico, with the panama. so, so far it seems that he's doing well. what do you think are going to be the main challenges of his administration? if 1st of all, we should be of the mind that the united states system and the executive power is valid just by congress. therefore, we don't know whether the congress,

both the senate and house of representatives would improve trumps policy. you know, at least for the time being for the next 2 years. we know that he has the winter to the, the west system is quite different in the continental european system. so whether the majority, both the chambers of the congress is republicans, it doesn't necessarily mean that or because we'll approve his policies. so it is the number one question, the other one that the united states is not the alone invest and booked. a of us has elyse both in nature in europe and other words, other places of to vote. therefore, a from the 1st moment. so if he's prison, cvc, there are some reactions, some criticism from a, it's elyse, a boss in europe and the middle east and asia. therefore,

we do not see at the action that can result as the plant conclusion. there may be some obstacles on the road you wrote that one of the main focuses for trump and the attack a restore garcia around him will be trying to gather all the artificial intelligence technology in the world with them center. it's within the united states to create are sort of a new form of a global feudalism in, in it's a digital interpretation. do you think that's possible? is that a realistic project? at this point of time, we are not only at the trash hold off at the lock in international relations, but also instrumental. because if you look back to the, let's say 3000 to use a different magnitude developed in all aspects, from economy to military, to health, etc. but none of these, they will,

all once are in such an event. this destiny has witnessed within the last 10 years and each and every moment we have new technology because improvements need inventions which will delete everything. and we'll change everything and view the task for me. everything was i made a, it was an on order oci, a that's icons. pay at the meet a use the rest, the european system of the buildings and what is going on now in the less than the european system offensive. and there was an emperor and with the emperor indicates the lots and the status that was an unwritten cool nation, or compromise that they had done some responsibilities to each other. there was a hierarchy essentially what yes, there was, the guy was a higher can. there was a reason, a commitment to each other. let's say when i will damper us for the say soldiers

thinks we're sending them and then were there was a legacy problem between the kinks. then emperor will fold up towards the end. and that's what i like about your idea of, uh, sort of new rendition of a global feudalism is that essentially you are arguing that the west or the united states will try to reimpose the system once again, onto the world in the digital form. now the question that i had is whether 1st of all i find it's rather paradoxical, that it's the united states that would be trying to do those things because this country was born out of the idea to break out of the imperial. and you know, you're repeating kingship, feudalism mentality, but now they are sort of spearheading that transformation you have again. but the biggest question that i have in my mind is whether this is a new form of globalization, essentially in the digital form. because the americans a want to keep the control over the entire system and he may want still to

a right to know the profits for themselves. okay, trust to history. the government of powers, let's say, since the 16th century, best thing, you can powers like spain, pork and go, the doctor probably didn't change which empire and united states. they had some tools to control the global system, like a very big army, strong army, controlling the economy, controlling the trade routes. and using theory, language has lingua franca and exporting to day or wall to other states. now there's an addition to this big in east too much estate dollars where we're also take notice she cool edward and he loves to take tone again. contrast of victoria. she called to us to go see here talking about artificial intelligence. the if you feel intelligence, only it is technology as a whole team, we surely intelligently is the most important component of it. and of course not

with these. yes. speaking the about learning artificial intelligence make kind of sense. now i agree with you. that's for the last 500 years. that's what he or p and powers did both with imposing the custom style laws that values that technology on to the other countries. but one would argue that the world has changed. and there many of the nations for developing not only that version of artificial intelligence and sort of testing it on the, in the own languages in their own cultural values. but they also have a new sense of their own identity. given these a new level of technological proficiency, or bothers on the wall consensus of you know, national pride, national identity, do you think they would be, want to be broad under these? and you know, new feudal role meet the keywords, both in the previous field old rules and the, even the most. i think one is the content. i mean,

nothing can be done possibly forever. it wouldn't if you have the strongest army, as you mentioned, to people, the nations can resist against your in positions of them are we see many of the nations seeing that the leaders in the system who for schools and co browse tools can give you some benefit of therefore, we have seen at emotions of content, nations, will them truly say yes, we see you as a leader of this new system combinations, right? not all of them, of course, they say we will internally see you as the leader, as the, the brother of business system, they will benefit from it and he will benefit from it. so that's why i made the analogy with defer the listen. it is not to read them anywhere. it is not read any

of the chatter of the united nations charter. save old nations, small or beat are echoes, but now they're somewhat more equal than the other. so i think that's arguable. but um, i wanna ask you this terms, decree on removing obstacles to the us leadership in the field of artificial intelligence. i think it's very interesting and worth it because on the one hand it uses leadership and dominance as total synonyms. they're used interchangeably down . it also states that the goal of these primacy, that the americans are buying to preserve is to promote human flourishing. this is the phrase that i see. i hear people around trump use a lot to human flourishing. how do you understand it? what do you think they mean when they keep appealing kids? first, we have to see that it is not found origin of impatient to take some the a most about the different jo intelligence, the 1st binding,

biden's immunization in its final base. they by then finds ethically and past the bills about artificial intelligence and youth would all most the exclusive div folder, right? so fact if your shipment is intelligent to united states and both countries which united states love, trump is now taking gifts further. and say's ok if you are with me to develop artificial intelligence. i can share this with you as much as i want to share. but if you go and do it, enter into some kind of partnership with other countries such as china, so you're against. therefore, this is a top type international relations understanding because previous tvs, so the same thing you had either with me or against me. absolutely. but it's

a to some extent only in language, it's a wishful thinking that the americans want to have dominance. they want to have dominance. that's what they say that we want to control. but the question is whether the other nations actually getting the benefits rather than a being sold director rick about the benefits you see that the distinction here in your estimate estimation of the trump administration. so if i do think they will deliver the goodies that they promise, i don't know it's up to the countries because many of the country schools they enter into a compromise between united states. well it's, it's a compromise to sell the national sol, essentially. is it the, i don't think so, it depends on the system of all the regime of discount. i mean in some countries and what the case about the people's so the on the paint, the full think off the government is to keep their seats. so if they got on the protection from united states then thinking you what the united states wants and it

is also valid for other countries. so these kind of relationship is not only between the united states and these some countries, but also between some other countries. some say okay, do you want to sleep on your seat? is a freaking company. ok team it is mine and let's say license and i will protect you . so this is an rule. i mean it's a, it isn't, that's maybe a little. it isn't. that's maybe it within the international in, in the if there's a practice of international relations. well, uh versus, or how it's a practice of this program to take a short break in the middle. but we will be back in just a couple of minutes statement. the, there is no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy the or is the case of the med, most of the people i've tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also of soon,

this is the 3rd world will receive re, washington press 4. so the funder line likes to say we have the tools while we just start with stability and business deals to what we should be living on. that we have very close propaganda. you know, a price here in new york. i think we don't know the aftermath any time that you're not allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the question. the more questions asked, the better the answer is, will be the welcome back to. well, it's a part of it. it's a chevy of hum rector of often bus university in turkey. and before the break, we have started talking about with our artificial intelligence and much has been sad about it if potentially and radically changing all areas of human activity from employment to social relations. i'm even say personal human relations. i'm here. if you look at trump, he's somewhat for adults that go because he's also somebody who is in favor of say,

safe guarding some traditional human values like you know, traditional views of the gender, traditional views of the marriage, a certain limitations on abortions, etc. and he's also set to be a believer in god and providence as something that allowed him to or survive to assess the nation attempts. now, based on your intrusion, because there is no way of knowing that for sure. but based on your intuition, may he be somebody or, you know, macy's administration be an actor and that will preserve certain human values and prevent them from either corruption by the new progressive is ethics or buyers to special intelligence for that matter. i hope so, because it's not a problem of american society only. it's a problem of all humanity. and it's not only depending on what mr. trump,

they'll do, but also for other rulers and other legislation. so of all countries that artificial intelligence is like in life, you can cut the bread, you can cut the meat, but you can also to, to, people tend to little think of it. there's a, the ongoing discussion among the political sciences fulfilled as just everyone, whether technology and to values a can be a rum separately. i mean, to me, let's say for, for, for 100 p, as we have such a debate in my country into kia, can be only take the technology of the west and keep our values is also valid for japan, cammie import technology only, and keep our valve these, in fact, it's very difficult because these both effects each other. so at the very beginning,

the united states and all other countries should make regulations to protect human values who in dignity a from that you will associate donation. well, this is such an important and also very difficult question because there are many conventions on, on human drives, but 3 and now so that they have been used as a vehicle to promote quote unquote western values. but since you mentioned the issue of philadelphia, i think it's not only fulfill officer, but also find many religious systems. there's a promise that at the core of human humanity, something sacred, something that cannot be sold or bought. do you think trump believes in such a notion that there's something that is off limits that cannot be uh, you know, who may be a part of a big deal then the talking to lease. it is something between us and god.

therefore, i don't know. i don't know any, i don't see any implications that she has lead something because of his belief. but he says something politically, he won't, the elections came to power and he has some promises commitments to american people about the american values. i'm making family system and it will other things. but what i am talking, yes, and that's only about the american people, all the people living living in the world. now we are entering the new age and in this age, machine is learning. and if they haven't good machines, the fact to st and change something, me dot an older from the few months. what will happen? so from the beginning, it does not 56, you absolutely one whatever reason or shut insights friction, these become a real real that the of the day it boils down to a problem of

a tool versus an agent. and whether you're giving some of your consciousness, consciousness, the conscious decision, sol, decisions over to the machine. and it's a, it's a question i think know that even for the governments to make it says right now, we have to take this as in a minute. the problem on the tables, we should make 1st national, then international regulations. it adds, take any action to prevent future off or generations from the arrows of the unknown because we don't know to up to that if so go just one, here we go. i just, you know, download, it's an active shooting cabbages application within t 3 months. the speed and the capacity 100 times growth, and we do one year. now it is $400.00 times faster. absolutely, but processor hon,

i'm in it. some people make it sound very complicated. but at the end of the day is still on your phone. and this how you relate to your children, how you relate to your, you know, parents, your neighbors is still a personal question and it's done without any the inside your mouth. only goose knows. i mean, at the personal level, we shouldn't be conscious and be very careful about using this technology. but in nation of levels, it is government's responsibility. now, if you have such a technology, and if we see the, you know, features, then we have to take some measures, both amigos antennae in nation of levels any to national level. that's what i am talking about. now i, i still have one question about the, the temp administration i wanted to ask you about last come, you are described as embodying the pragmatism of cardinal racial here and beat

technology supported impressiveness of pretty good at us. put him into, well as a russian, i'm very much impressed with the 2nd part of the comparison, because i'm keep me aware that it was the presence of a recipe which in that the, the city financial. absolutely. he was very cousins cause method charismatic and mystical person, the believer in god, you be me, don't know. we only know a little about how he influenced is out. and i think in russia there have been extensive research in that subject. but one thing we know for sure is that it was his presence of the word that led to the down full of these are assembly and ultimately the imperial russia. as a state, do you think the presence of a even mosque donald trump scores could have a similar impact either on donald trump or on america as a he's a very clever guy. that's some or if he's a or targets for exploration are very

a no problem at the for the rest of the traverse. for instance, he was speaking in an interview to i think, can you single and he was asked, oh, you're talking about sending some space rockets to 2 months and create a quote on it. yeah, it will take us in years maybe dictates to create it accordingly. and he has it. why don't you think that at the same time i consent, 401004 gets to the most. so she has such an inspiration. so, but old is money. very feel comfortable because it is an investment. yes, we have seen giblets very fancy the you know, projects, but you need the financial resources and it creates resources to reach this solution so far. very successful in funding kids on the enterprise. well, i don't know whether it's roof,

who has the it is way. yeah. what will the american society be thinking about is if they are a priority to load the information and increase their employment or sending some real customers and create a quote on the desk. now uh, in the last couple of minutes that i have, i want to ask you about, um, international politics. um, you have recently before the trump may attempt to quote unquote, by lodging they're putting support in applying a some pressure against china. do you think russia's position on this issue is for sale? i know i'm not talking about selling going buying. i didn't buy such. i think i am thinking that to your russia is invest in country from the beginning to say you're looking country is a part of european pamela me. so i believe it's not very appreciated. that doesn't

actually have seen that assembling, to be honest with, you know, i'm talking about as a, as a to time seen crush as a part of europe. it's searching is also proud of being here. you know, both in years when they usually send a subject, they'll be proud or full of ice. the reality in the tom previously enough is paul king, that china is united states number one rivals. and maybe you can. so if you are seen china as a and you want, i mean trump, does he want more elyse around change? or is do you want to take a life of china one by one to cite of united states? i am talking to you about, i understand the logic, but i mean, it's not only about what donald trump ones, it's also about i whole russia's own vision of itself. the goal is the roger sees itself as a great nation, and that includes, you know,

respect of your own interest, but also respect of your own allies and you know, respecting the word, the obligation of course. but if at the end, it is a great just look the virt, russia, and united states are the powers. so at the end, when mr. trump and mr. pool team will meet, they will not only speak about the frustration create, they will speak about the other part so toward as well. and as, as far as i understand from trump's policy terms, want to pull russia from sight of china to his site. and of course, he has to do something to do this, and russia should also make analyzes, or for each own nation with interest in finding another license. all countries is moving to their international relations depending on the national interest.

absolutely, and i think which and said that on the, on many occasions that she wants to have a friendly relationship with the united states as well as so you know, many of the european neighbors, but russian will not accept any solver and joe political son for an overhead, you know, speaking about what we had talked uh, you know, they, the, your earlier theme of feudalism. do you think it would be a sucked to both to the trump administration, to have russia as an equal partner, but not as one of the, you know, subservient, younger brothers? it depends what we'll trump take at what's of the russia. so it is, well the international relations history is an issue, a 5 minute negotiation some think is given something is take. so this is that this very day is the 18th anniversary of delta conference, the anti fascist airlines. they gather theme, delta, and they want to say,

consort will raise nothing your money and strip at that time united states. so it's unions and there's some the, a lice against germany. so if you look at the minutes of conferencing, yells, and the results, it was not only about the war against germany, it was about re shaping convert. they established the united nations, they called for san francisco conference, and then they establish a new york system. therefore, i believe if mr. trump, i mean simple team come together and meet and start speak, it will not be only bilateral relations or fresh and united states. but if you'll be a much more or less kale off the delegation discussions about the future of developed, can i ask you one last question? you mentioned bargaining, and i enjoy bargaining a turkish bizarre as very much. and everybody who has done it and knows the,

the asking price and the sort of the final deal price may be very, very different. do you think trump has the capacity of sustaining the bargaining process not only aggressively pushing for his prize, but also playing along playing the coal game? when you argue indefinitely and only the end of it come up with some, you know, mutually agreeable solution. does he have the that's cool. okay. all like at 1st timers, choice the stumble, grandfather protein and trump most each other very well. so it's not the starting price anyway. so if they come and negotiate, they know they are my, they to capacities, they and powers. what they need. exactly. so it's not like the tourist guy, but i mean, i love to even get the money to a cheaper cheaper carpet. well, thank you very much for being with us. thank you. and thank you for watching off the sir again on worlds apart.

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