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the rest of us as the trunk is making its trumpeting re entry onto the global stage . we'll discuss that. i'm now joined by chevy at han rector of alton boss university in turkey. professor sean is great to talk to thank you very much for your time. thank you. now the trump administration has come in with a big bang more than 50 executive orders signed in less than a week. most of them with a marker. what's your impression of this new teams so far? exactly? sure. to be aware that it's not, can you is the 2nd term of a trump administration for the people around him a quite different this time? yes, he changed, but i think he has some experience from his previous posting the lighthouse as well . and he has some job that's where the stopped by to the, by the situation. so that will be a continuation of the previous to, but they're submitting you at ideas. and these ideas not is only about the
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domestic politics of the united states, but also about the economy, but also about global economic global, the international system. so now we are at the beginning of a new era as that, as i understand. and trump is tied to the task form the system, both in the united states and the work as a trustee. so seems to be very shortly on the on the surface, but so far he's had most of his cabin is no minis approved by the congress. he is also managed to reach some tentative international deals with mexico with panama. so, so far it seems that he's doing well. what do you think? i'm going to be the main challenges of his administration. if 1st of all, we should be the mind that the united states system, the executive power, is balanced by congress. therefore, though, we don't know whether the congress,
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both the senate and house of representatives would improve trumps policy or at least for the time being for the next 2 years. so we know that he has about 8 or the later in the, the west system is quite different in the continental european system. so whether the majority, both the chambers of the congress is republicans, it doesn't necessarily mean that or because we'll approve this policies. so it is the number one question, the other one that the united states is not that long. invest in bert a of us has elyse both in nature in europe and other with other places of to vote. therefore, a from the 1st moment. so if he's prison, cvc, there are some reactions, some criticism from a, it's elyse, a bossing group in the middle east, and asia. therefore, we do not see at the action that can result
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as the plants conclusion that may be some of stick us on the wrong. you wrote that one of the main focuses for trump. i'm the tech aristocracy around him will be trying to gather all the artificial intelligence technology in the world with them center. it's within the united states to create a sort of a new form of a global feudalism in. and it's a digital interpretation. do you think that's possible? is that a realistic project at this point of time, we are not only at a fresh quote of the lock in international relations, but also instrumental because if you look back to the, let's say 3000 to use a different man. if he developed in all aspects, from economy to military, to health, etc, but not often they will months. their in such an event to still be has witnessed
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within the last 10 years. and each and every moment we have these technological improvements, media conventions which will delete everything and we'll change everything and we have tasks for me. everything was i made a, it was an on order oci. and that's i compare the mid eighties the rest, the european system of the buildings and what is going on now in the western european system of federalism. there was an emperor and with the emperor indicates the lots and the status that was an unwritten coordination or compromise that they had done some responsibilities to each other. there was a hierarchy essentially what, yes, there was a fight or today was a higher i can, there was a reason, a commitment to each other. let's say when it will damper us for the say soldiers
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kinks where is sending them. and then were there was a legacy problem between the kinks, then emperor will fold up towards the end. and that's what i like about your idea of, uh, sort of new rendition of global feudalism is that essentially, you are arguing that the west or the united states will try to re impose the system once again onto the world in the digital form. now the question that i have is whether 1st of all i find it's rather paradoxical, that it's the united states that would be trying to do those things because this country was born out of the idea to break out of the imperial. and you know, you're repeating kingship, feudalism mentality, but now they are sort of spearheading that transformation. yep. again. but then the biggest question that i have in my mind is whether this is a new form of globalization, essentially in the digital phone. because americans a want to keep the control over the entire system and be they want still to a, raking the,
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the profits for themselves. okay. trust to history. the government of powers. let's say it seems a sci fi century. best thing you can publish like space park a go, the doctor probably didn't change, but you can't buy a and united states. they have some tools to control the global system. like, yeah, that'd be army strong army control and the economy controlling the trade routes and using their language as lingua franca and exporting to day or more to other states. now there's an addition to this big in east too much is take dollars. where were the also take donors? she cool it, were you lots to take? tony again come to us that they told her she contrast of us here talking about artificial intelligence. the if you feel intelligence only it is technology. it has a hold of a really intelligently is the most important component of 5th ads is of course now
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these, yes, speaking the about learning artificial intelligence, mckennan since now i agree with you. that was the last 500 years. that's what he repeating powers did both with imposing the customs di last, the values that technology on to the other countries. but one would argue that the world has changed in their many other nations for developing not only that version of artificial intelligence and sort of testing it on the, in the own languages in their own cultural values. but they also have a new sense of their own identity. given this a new level of different, logical profession. c, o bothers and that a wall consensus of, you know, national, 5 national identity. do you think they would be, want to be brought under these? and you know, new feudal role the, the key word both in the previous field old rules and the even the emerging quan is the content. i mean,
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nothing can be done possibly for you. and if you have the strongest army, as you mentioned to people, the nations can resist against your in positions have been work. we see many of the nations seeing that the leaders in the system who pushed the rules and co browse tools can give you some benefit says of. therefore, we have seen at emotions of content to you. nation swollen to really say, yes, we see you as a leader of this new set of nations, right? not all of them, of course, they say we will until we see you as the leader, as the, the brother of the new system. they will benefit from it and he will benefit from it. so that's why i made an analogy. we defer the listen. it is not the reason anywhere. it is not pretending the chatter will. so united nations, charter,
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save old nations, small or beat are echoes. but now they're somewhat more equal than the other. so um, i think that's arguable. but i wanna ask you this terms, decree on removing obstacles to the us leadership in the field. the 1st official intelligence i think is very interesting and worth it because on the one hand it uses leadership and dominance as total synonyms. they're used interchangeably, them. it also states that the goal of these primacy, that the americans are buying to preserve is to promote human flourishing. this is the phrase that i see. i hear people around trump use a lot of human flourishing. how do you understand it? what do you think they mean when they keep appealing to their so if you have to see that it is not tom's origin of impatient to take some the most about dr. joe intelligence eats those bite biden's immunization in its final
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base. they buy them signs and decrees, and pester bills about artificial intelligence and youth root all most the exclusive div folder, right? so fucked efficiently. these intelligence to united states and both countries which united states i love trump, is now taking gift cert and phase or k. if you are with me to develop artificial intelligence, i can share that with you as much as i want to share. but if you go and do it enter into some kind of partnership with other countries such as china, so you're against. therefore, this is a top type international relations understanding because previously me, so the same think good either with me or against me. absolutely, but it's a to some extent only in language, it's
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a wishful thinking that the americans want to have done and then they want to have dominance. that's what they say that we want to control. but the question is whether the of the nation's actually getting the benefits rather than a being sold director rick about the benefits you see that the distinction here in your estimate estimation of the trump administration so far, do you think they will deliver the goodies that they promise, i don't know, it's up to the countries because many of the country schools a enter into a compromising tonight that states, well it's, it's a compromise to sell the national sol, essentially. is it the, i don't think so. it depends on the system of all the regime of discount. i mean in some countries of the case about the people's. so the only thing the full think off the government is to keep their seats. so if they got on the protection from united states then thinking you what the united states wants and it is also rather
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for other countries. so these kind of relationship is not only between the united states and these, some countries, but also between some other countries. some say ok, do you want to sit on your seat is a freaking company. ok team it is mine and let's say license and i will protect you . so this is an rule. i mean it's a, it isn't, that's maybe a legal. it doesn't, that's maybe it within the international in, in the if there's a practice of international relations. well, uh sir, it's a practice of this program to take a short break in the middle. but we will be back in just a couple of minutes statement. the
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hello and welcome defrost the full force here. we discuss the wheel in the welcome back to wells, a part with the chevy of how the rector of often bus university in turkey. and before the break, we have started talking about our artificial intelligence and much has been sad about it, is potentially and radically changing all areas of human activity from employment to social relations. i'm even say personal human relations. i'm here. if you look at trump, he's somewhat for adults that go because he's also somebody who is in favor of say, safe guarding some traditional human values like you know,
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traditional views of the gender, traditional views of the marriage, a 2nd limitations on abortions, etc. and he's also set to be a believer in god and providence as something that allowed him to or survive to assess the nation attempts. now, based on your orientation, because there is no way of knowing that for sure, but based on your intuition, may she be somebody or you know, making is administer station b. and after that will preserve certain human values and prevent them from either corruption by the new progressive is ethics or biased official intelligence . for that matter, i hope so because it's not a problem of american society only. it's a problem of all humanity and it's not only depending on what mr. trump feels to, but also for other rulers and other legislation. so of all countries that
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artificial intelligence is like in my life, you can cut the bread. you can cut the meat, but you can also to, to, people tend to those will think of it. there's a, the ongoing discussion among the political sciences fulfilled is just everyone, whether the technology and the values a can be a rum separately. i mean, kemi, let's say for, for, for 100 p is we have such a debate in my country into kia can be on the take the take notation of the west and keep our values is also valid for japan. cammie import technology only, and keep our valve these effect is very difficult because these both affects each other. so at the very beginning,
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the united states and all other countries should make regulations to protect human values, human dignity, a from that you, most of the combination. well, this is such an important and also very difficult question because there are many conventions on, on human drives, but 3 in the so that they have been used as a vehicle to promote quote unquote western values. but since you mentioned the issue of philosophy, i think it's not only for philosopher, but also for many religious systems. there is a promise that at the core of human humanity, something sacred, something that cannot be sold or bought. do you think trump believes in such a notion that there's something that is off limits that cannot be uh you know, what may be a part of a big deal then the talking to the lease. it is something between us and god. therefore, i don't know. i don't know any,
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i don't see any implications that she has read something because of his belief, but he says something politically, he won't, the elections came to power and he has some promises commitments to american people about the american values. i'm making family system and it will other things. but what i am talking, yes, and that's only about the american people. all the people living living in the room . now we are entering in new age and in this age, machine is learning. and if day i would give machines the fact to sing and change something. me dot an order from the few months. what will happen? so from the beginning, this is not science fiction. absolutely what, whatever reason or shut the search friction is become a real, real to, to the of the day. it boils down to a problem of a tool versus an agent. then whether you're giving some of your consciousness,
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consciousness, conscious decisions, soul decisions over to the machine. and it's a, it's a question, i think not even for the governments to make it says are so we have to take this as in even a problem on the tables. we should make 1st national spending 10 national legal nations and take any action to prevent featured off our generations from the evils of the unknown because we don't know to up to that a full go. just one. here we go. i just, you know, download. it's an active shooting coverages, application within t t months, the speed and the capacity 100 times got and we do one year now it is $400.00 times faster. absolutely. but the processor hung,
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i'm in it. some people make it sound very complicated, but at the end of the day is still on your phone. and this is how you relate to your children, how you relate to your, you know, parents, your neighbors is still a personal question and it's done without any the inside your mouth on this goose and those. i mean, at the personal level, we shouldn't be conscious. and be very careful about using this technology, but in nation of levels, it is government's responsibility. now, if you have such a technology, and if we see the, you know, features, then we have to take some measures, both legal antennae in nation of levels any to national level. that's what i am talking about. now i, i still have one question about the, the temp administration i wanted to ask you about the last come here described as embodying the pragmatism of cards in algebra, show here and beat technology supported,
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impressive. and it's also pretty good at us, put him into, well as a russian, i'm very much impressed with the 2nd part of the comparison, because i'm q me aware that it was the presence of a recipe, which in that the and she was ready financial as literally he was very cousin, because method charismatic and mystical person to deliver and guide you, be, me, don't know. we only know a little about how he introduced us out. and i think in russia there have been extensive research on that subject. but one thing we know for sure is that it was his presence of the word that led to the down full of these are assembly and ultimately the imperial russia. as a state, do you think the presence of a even mosque donald trump scores would have a similar impact either on donald trump or on america as a he's a very clever guy. but some of these a, the targets for expirations are very
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a no problem at the, for the rest of the traverse. for instance, he was speaking in an interview to, i think, can you say cool? and he was asked, oh, you're talking about sending some space rockets to twice and create a cooling. yeah, it will take us in years, maybe dictates to create it accordingly. and he has it. why don't you think that at the same time i can send 400? 1000 truck gets to the mass. so he has such an expiration. so, but old is money. very feel comfortable because it has any investment. yes, we can think about it. faddie fancy. the, you know, projects, but you need the financial resources and it creates resources to reach this solution. so for a very successful in funding his own, the enterprise i, i don't know whether it's who, who has the it is wait, what's the american society?
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the think about is if they are a priority to load the information and increase their employment or sending some real customers and create a quote on the desk. now uh, in the last couple of minutes that i have, i want to ask you about, um, international politics. um you have recently before the, uh, trump may attempt to quote unquote, by lodging they're putting support in applying a, some pressure against china. do you think russia's position on this issue is for sale? i know i'm not talking about selling going buying. i didn't buy such. i think i am thinking that you're russia is invest in country from the beginning to say you repeat country is a part of european pamela me. so i believe it's not very appreciated that the kentucky has seen fit assembly to be honest with, you know,
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i'm talking to about as a, as a, to time seen crush as a part of europe. it's searching is also proud of being here. you know, both in years with age i sent a subject to being proud or full size. the reality in the, from previous the enough is paul king, that china is united states number one rivals. and maybe it can be. so if you are seeing china as a and we want, i mean trump, does he want more elyse around china? or is do you want to take a life of china one by one to side of united states? i am talking to you about, i understand the logic, but i mean, it's not only about what donald trump ones, it's also about, i hope russia's own vision of itself. the goal is the roger sees itself as a great nation, and that includes, you know, respect of your own interest,
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but also respect of your own allies and you know, respecting the word, the obligation of course. but if at the end, it is a great checkbook, the vert, russia, and united states are the powers. so at the end, when mr. trump mc reporting will meet, they will not only speak about the situation, ok. they will speak about the other part so toward as well. and as, as far as i understand from trump's policy terms, want to pull russia from sight of china to his site. and of course, he has to do something to do this. and russia should also make analyzes, or for east or nation with interest in finding the nicest old countries is moving to their international relations depending on the national interest. absolutely, and i think which and said that on the, on many occasions that she wants to have
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a friendly relationship with the united states as well as so you know, many of the european neighbors. but russia will not accept any solver and joe political summer and over it, you know, speaking about what we had talked uh, you know, they, the, your earlier theme of feudalism. do you think it would be a sucked to both to the trump administration, to have russia as an equal partner? but not as one of the, you know, subservient, is younger brothers? it depends what we'll trump take, can lots of the russia. so it is all the international relations history is an issue, a 5 minute negotiation some think is doing something is take. so this is that this very day is the 18th anniversary of delta conference, the anti fascist airlines. they gather thing delta, and they want to say,
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consort will raise nothing germany and japan this time united states. so it's unions and there's a lice against germany. so if you look at the minutes of conferencing, yells and duties of it was not only about the war against germany, it was about re shaping convert. they established the united nations. they called for san francisco conference, and then they establish a new york system. therefore, i believe if mr. trump and we support team come together and meet and start speak, it will not be only bilateral relations or fresh and united states. but if it will be a much more or less scale of desperation discussions about the future of developed, can i ask you one last question name, you mentioned bargaining and i enjoy bargaining. a 2 categories are as very much and everybody who has done it and knows the, the asking price and the sort of the final deal price may be very,
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very different. do you think chance has the capacity of sustaining the bargaining process not only aggressively pushing for his prize, but also playing alone, playing the call game? when you argue indefinitely and only the end of it come up with some, you know, mutually agreeable solution. does he have the that's ok, like at 1st timers, choice the stumble grandfather put in and trump most each other very well. so it's not the starting price anyway. so if they come and negotiate, they know they are buy that will capacities they empowers what they mean. exactly. so it's not like the tourist gun buzz. me let me get the money to a cheaper cheaper carpet. well, thank you very much for being with us. thank you, and thank you for watching off the sir again on worlds apart. the
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