[000:00:00;00] the we must start by recognizing that returning to increase pre 2014 borders is an unrealistic object. us defense secretary rebuffs the idea that ukraine's pre 2014 borders can be restored. in his 1st meeting with nato member nations. moscow confirms release plans for our residents that has been held in the us as part of the trump administration. first prisoners swapped with the problem. the american presidents has hinting that the good above gesture could set the stage for a bigger deal on ukraine. i think this could be the very important element. it could be a big part of actually because it could be a big, important part of getting the water over with you grand.

the, the russian depends ministry confirms of striking ukrainian military throne production plans and a temporary deployment side for foreign mer scenarios. as moscow troops advanced and on the eve of indian prime minister motors arrival to washington for meetings with the you. as the president talks on trade in tariffs, as well as donald trump, parson br. expense opened the ways for tension on the agenda. the you're watching artie international live in moscow. i'm rachel ruble. we start with breaking news. as washington's top pentagon official has announced that restoring ukraine to its pre 2014 borders is a non starter to the complex piece process. let's have a lesson. we must start by recognizing that returning to ukraine's pre 2014 borders

is an unrealistic objective, is chasing this. illusionary goal will only prolong the war and cause more suffering. finally, we hear from a top us official, the us secretary of defense, that this is just a pipe dream. this idea that ukraine is going to get its hands on cry me a, and this is after 11 years since 2014 of us officials saying over and over that they're not gonna recognize you. crimea has a russian territory that it's occupied by russia and that the peninsula just belongs to ukraine. so i said, very early on, that should russia do so? there would be consequences for not recognizing what has happened and cry may have together. we have rejected any notion that there is any legality in russia's efforts to annex crimea. we do not recognize russia's attempt to annex crimea. we agree to disagree with russia on that front. and our crimea sanctions against

russia will remain in place until rusher, returns the peninsula to the correct in moscow. eventually it has to end its occupation of ukraine's sovereign territory. crime may is still sovereign territory of ukraine, even on the state department website. you can still find this wild claim that just doesn't correspond to reality, that the us is, does not, and will not recognize crimea. crime is democratic decision to become part of russia, which the website calls an annexation, right? but there's also another big take away from what the us secretary of defense said, because this also ties into another thing that the u. s. has said that the or, or rather that russia said was one of its goals in the military operation to prevent ukraine from being becoming part of nato. and the secretary defense just said that this idea that ukraine might get nato membership is not going to be on

the table for any sort of peace negotiation. the united states does not believe that nato membership for ukraine is a realistic outcome of a negotiated settlement. instead, any security guarantee must be backed by capable european and non european troops. if these troops are deployed as peacekeepers to ukraine at any point, they should be deployed as part of a non need omission. and they should not be covered under article 5. there also must be robust international oversight of the line of contact to be clear as part of any security guarantee. there will not be us troops deployed to ukraine. this all comes submit a prisoner swap between washington and moscow. what more can you tell us about that? that's right, well although trump hasn't yet been able to broker any sort of peace deal like he promised on the campaign trail, he has been able to negotiate with the russian authorities that negotiate this

a prisoner swap that has seen the former school teacher, mark fogel returned to the united states, and this deal really looks like it's a chief more progress towards any sort of piece deal being cut between the united states and russia than anything we've seen over the past 4 years. because you've been, trump said, i mean this is a moments that is going to perhaps present the 1st step into building that sort of report between the united states and russia. it's going to be needed to cut any sort of peace deal. very fair, very, very fair, very reasonable, not like deals you've seen over the years. they were very fair. it's going to lead and would have somebody else is being released tomorrow that you will know. but we wanted to get this done very important and see what it actually fly over and get mark and get them on properly because that could be

a pretty tough trip. goodwill. in terms of new i think this can be the very important element. you could be a big part of it actually because it could be a big, important part of getting the water over with you grand. and we appreciate present inputs and was what he, what he did, he was able to pull it off for you, right. he was able to pull it up. we think any here. so is great. will to a little bit more about it tomorrow, but i think we made great progress. progress on the war. also getting the word i want to get the war ended. just as evening is a very important evening for ending that was and i think they all want to see it. and now the kremlin spokesman dimitry pest golf, also commented on this exchange. and what he said, a lot of what he said actually echoed what we just heard from trump piece that essentially that this deal could perhaps begin to sort of improvements in the

currently low level of trust between russia and the united states to a good starting point. he also said that a russian will be exchanged, the russian citizen currently being held in the united states will be exchanged for mark fogel. and that this deal was the result of very intensive negotiations. as we stated earlier, work through the relevant departments hasn't testified. there were contacts and the result of these contacts was the release of focus, as well as one of the russian citizens who is currently being held in prison in the united states. so, but this russian citizen will be returned back to russian in the upcoming days. naturally, any agreements on the release of citizens are proceeded by a very, very meticulous negotiations to figure it out. somebody's lives are certainly a positive sign of potential sign and relations. what's the likelihood we can see more positive developments? well, according to russian foreign minister, circ,

a live rob that we heard from today, also commenting on this, this deal that was caught and the potential for future peace negotiations. i mean, he said that there are some 3rd parties that might feel sort of left out of a piece deal that's cut between the us and russia. specifically, the european union utilize it, but it was more than it was due to the world awaits a possible meeting between president putin and trump a category she could. this meeting helped improve relations between the 2 countries and lead to an agreement on resolving the ukrainian chrysler texture. this new to us of the do you think the whole world is waiting? i don't think it is, as i used to have. so there are those who believe that any contacts between moscow and washington seems to infringe upon the interest that europe has begun to use the mouth of ty tell us if we should declare that without europe, nothing can be discussed. the tool, it seems they have felt the place in the world hierarchy to which they have relegated themselves, but it will not be so easy to get out of it. as for the direct issue of contact with president,

trump has repeatedly said that he is ready and willing to make phone calls and is ready to meet him. pass a mr. president, putin has said that he's ready for that as well. the decision you understand will be made directly by the president, sort of and i have no doubt that relevant information will be provided for all circle now and all of this. obviously, it's also important to understand who crane's position and all this because according to ukrainian media, reports keeps becoming increasingly concerned that the west is just going to leave its proxy state out of negotiations altogether, especially because russia has made it clear it doesn't really see vladimir zalinski as having the authority to sign off on any sort of legitimate piece deal, especially because she is in power way past his presidential term, pretty much just through the barrel of a gun. and ukraine has a lot of other problems. of course, i mean, they're facing some serious depletion of manpower, that's actually forcing them to really campaign hard to get 18 year olds to sign up

for military contracts. and with this depletion of resources and ukraine's dependence on the west for pretty much every thing at this point. i mean, we're looking at a situation where ukraine may very soon stop trying to entice 18 year olds to join this me grinder and start forcing them a and more breaking news. us our, the us will release russian citizen, alexander vic, in exchange for former u. s. embassy employee, mark fogel, who had been sent those 214 years for drug smuggling. alexander, the next attorney confirmed with a swap to our team. mister vondik is a computer programmer, arrested in greece in 2017. on washington's request. he was charged with money laundering and through illegal kept the current seat schemes. all right, let's cross now to let him hear baran, mayor of smell, know, you and the u. n. p. submission veteran. i'm ever on. good to have you on the program with us. uh, the us secretary of defense is admitting that a return to you cranes,

pre 2014 borders is unrealistic. now this is despite us officials repeatedly calling for crimea to be returned to key. yeah. why are we seeing this change in rhetoric now? good evening. thank you for having me. uh well, uh those uh can those, uh, bases or states. uh like, don't bother you have skin. uh try me out for sure. well, be returns to paying uh, you know, those uh, lots that are more dedicated for that's a little ration of the my russian minority ukraine is never gonna happen to those bases will be bother recreating anymore. so basically, you yeah, accepting reality that i guess the headset added that nato membership for cube is also off the table when it comes to peace negotiations. do you think the us is ready to drop those emissions and will the in you follow suit in considering that ukraine? well, joining the alliance,

i think they do. you has no choice just to follow up with the american this say. and at least they have for the, for the last 3 years of, of the world we're just going to be in the 22nd february. i think he's going to be 3 years. they are like most of the americans and the they are not the one who are going to be at the negotiation table, or who would you imagine to be the macro and the, or off shall. so who's to, to next to by the end, when he told him that he was going to blew up that old nursery pipe, and he just nodded his head like a out of conscious. so those side of the cus players said to be at the big ocean table, just the united states and the russian. this all comes amid the recent prisoner exchange deal between moscow and washington, which president trump praised as a good sign for future peace talks. of course, diplomacy is always, always a good sign. do you think that we're finally seen a turning point in russian us relations, which have been, of course,

quite bad for the last several years. i think a, it's the way it seems to be that it's a, it's a, it must stop once because those guys before with that, the center of the person, the, by them, they didn't even want to talk to, to russian members a savvy a while or not even but not pushing at all because they, they, they photographed something more and they can, they could bully them and say what they have to do about the top be so realistic so far. nobody's all what he says about to about the guy and so on. but the starting negotiation, you said very good starting to, to begin with at the same time that we're hearing a quite different words from us allies with nato's secretary general, claiming russia would face the feats if it attacked nato. i want to play a clip from margaret to before i get to my question for you. let's take a lesson. at the moment,

it's 13 volts at tech's nato. the reaction will be different state. you will lose. so let them, they'll track any notions. so mr. brewer on the russian foreign ministry spokeswoman highlighted that shift and rhetoric from defeating russia and ukraine to a possible attack on nato assailants assigned the west. has given up on key of do what, what are your thoughts? do you agree with that? well, the in the, with the restaurant that i wanted to talk to any, any nasal member, just the, it was, they made it clear that they don't want to, the nato con nato, to, to the lodge. any, any more about to i think it's not gonna happen. at all, just uh, if i, i'm afraid that that might be something locations from the okay. it is big because out on the brink of collapse the armies to tell the name and you know, being in a bad shape. a says you spoke before of the day and they have to reduce the young

people. i mean, remember my time when the i assigned for the national service? i was 21. i think at the time when i, if i recall those times i still was like a kid and they want to, uh, hard for uh, 18 years old. get see. and also i think that will do for some pro jason and the restaurant is not willing to do ethics any in that need to remember states at all. yeah, yeah, to your point there, the print in army has started signing contracts for the soldiers as young as 18. and this comes, of course, after long discussions over lowering the age of mobilization, which required predictably has been very unpopular and ukraine. do you think that this is kim, as a way of, of trying to get out of making such an unpopular move of conscripting the boys men under the age of, of 25 and rather trying to entice them to sign up instead, the subjects they have no no, but you know, many choices select and uh its uh,

they have no food off the young man. uh they cool to just go to sleep, walk you out, and then pick them up from those. uh, drug tests that uh, we can see uh last the weekend and the previous one they will young people are waiving the grading and flags and a group line up and, and go to the army straight away. i think they have no, you know, the really sort of pretty empty to, to take the problems. so they haven't done much know, many choices less they have to create. and if he says, alright, we're going to live with their vladimir bar on mayor of smell and, and you in peace, submission veteran, thank you for your time. thank you for inviting me to have a nice evening. thank you. meanwhile, russian force has continued to push forward on the front lines. the defense ministry confirmed a successful missile strike on several of cabins, military drone production plans, and the temporary deployment site for foreign mercenaries. our teaser mon customer

brings us more details. the russian armed forces launched a group this all attack against the ukrainian military industrial complex. according to the defense ministry, russia successfully struck factories producing unmanned aerial vehicles, as well as, as the v. drones. apart from that group, missile attack, rushes aircraft, drones, missiles and artillery also damaged the infrastructure bew crate in the mid 3 air fields, fuel storage facilities, and temporary deployment points for foreign mercenaries. now, russia's defense industry stated that large concentrations of crating um forces of was stuck in at least $139.00 various districts. meanwhile, a rush, a former president and the car executive head of the security council, bbc me, they have issued a statement says, saying that the concepts of peace through strength sometimes works piece 3 strength

. you say sometimes that concept does work like when it expires is the real balance of power? not some fantasy take today and kia, for example, after on me solves and drones arrived even so such actions onto enough to knock sense into those can legitimate food and say, shaking from fear and drunk withdrawal. bible nonsense on camera, about trading territories. the only cure for them is to feel russian again, just as the us president advised. meanwhile, here in gore left their retreating ukrainian army continues to fire indiscriminately targeting civilian population. at least 42 people have been wounded here since the beginning of february. apart from the drones that targets civilian vehicles, public transport, and ambulances, ukrainian, the militants are also using cluster munitions in residential areas. it's hoped that said, they advance some of the russian army at this particular front will soon put an end

to the 11. the struggle of the locals against the freight in aggression from on call for archie, from the outskirts of goal of car in the next people's republic. as is rarely troops intensify military operations focusing on 2 car um and surrounding refugee camps. in the west bank. the rates have escalated into a 4th week, further deepening the violence in the region. there are reports of armed confrontations between id f and the palestinian fighters in the west bank, including in the refugee camps. videos circulating online allegedly shows heavy gunfire and explosions at newer shands camp law is really troops used loudspeakers directing residents to evacuated since the start of the is really operation over 40000 palestinians have been forced to leave their home. according to the un is rarely forces have reportedly detained

a dozens of palestinians and recent westbank, bank raids with videos allegedly showing blindfolded detainees. palestinian authorities have reported gunfire and tear gas use in residential areas with at least 70 dev. since the start of idea of counterterrorism operations in a related action, the palestinian authority has ended up program best financially supports families of palestinians killed or imprisoned by israel. drawing a swift condemnation from us. we in the islamic resistance movement, condemned the decision of president flute, abbas to cancel the payment of financial allocations to the families of prisoners monitors and the wounded and to abandon the national cause. at the time when all people and resistance forces are working to preserve the rights of motives, deliberate prisoners, and provide a decent life for the liberated, we call for an immediate reversal of it. and not to submit to the pressures of

bizarre and this documentation of the american administration, the head of the palestinian national initiative. dr. mustafah, borges says, the decision to enter these payments will undoubtedly generate widespread, a public anger among palestinians. we seem to have police to me and those sort it is uh under pressure from the is that early side and from the american side to, to and probably even by some european side to take these steps that, that out of a lift, things that ice of the police to me and present those on time it is, but it's still being marked as who died instead of going to have sort of elevation of the country, those end up listed. and those are the 2 who think that by taking such steps they are good. so this fight that i'm going to face now, a very serious disappointment, because grandpa has just announced in the white house that is supporting the annexation of the west bank to is what it is besides, of course is the is the pause of what

a crime will fit mcclin's vehicle for the students from guys. so i think such as tips will not help to understand, you know, sort of the on the continuity. it creates invite a wide, public and good among the palestinians. what's that i'm is proposing bluntly and openly is the elimination of the palestinians, right? it's completely advocating doesn't exist enough for me to bite that it is in violation of international law. and this includes angles. its people, the west bank of tax included police involvement as to palestinian bookstores were rated in east jerusalem. the owners were detained and the dozens of the confiscated they seized the seats of us were reportedly related to the error of is really history and the conflict. the end, the police claimed the insight violence. one is a children's coloring book called from the river to the see a well known political phrase in the region used by both sides. the stores are centers for of intellectual life, for locals and have operated for decades. are 2,

spoke to the brother of one owner who is imprisoned and is now free. and that is why the police came to our shops, both of the shops of education and bush, of the j came and they came with an order of searching the material that support an illegal or going to the organizations the, the stuff search a between the books a, almost all the books that we have in english a. so they didn't, they didn't understand what the books of talking about. they start to translate that type as of the books by google translate a, they fill books and the flow. and then they say almost 100 folks from the a both the from the project a the so how do you spell that? i think the issue with the a picture of the hostages. they said, oh,

this has been just a things we ship ticket the feel, what are the thousands of last night they call us and ask us to come to the police station to take the books they, they don't need a much more was in this branch with his daughter for these old a they asked him in front of his daughter a. it was a plus the unbelievable. i wonder what is for you now. but they are in home in the home address is 35 days and they should be away from this then just based on the basement bookshop for 20 days, that you guys have bookshelves published at 1984 for the books of international books. we bring them from abroad, they pass the a slightly sense of and a port a, the books of knowing the when i saw

a quote all of our books talking about that. so a perfect a we have folks that invite is that any we have looked at in by, in jeremiah and we have books that then bye bye bye for less than. yeah. so we have a lot of books of covering or the a, one of the sites of the conflicts a, i don't know. what's that just with the the i think cause a want to shut up, shut down the voice of the a book show, but they won't offer us a. so one, our book shop is not based on the bookshop. it's a, almost a control center center is so they try to fight the, the culture in the piece to us and especially the police. so i think it's systematic, eh, or those to do to fight the police to catch out. especially if there was an in the after we,

if read more than the one they said they were continually there were a for us because i knew that we know what we said. don't know what we have a we are the got them. we all know, we know what we have a lot of friends in the day, our condo over 110000 people are subject to further displacement. following and offensive launched by the m. 23 militants on the city of goma. last month. the parent military group had issued a 72 hour ultimatum for the displace congolese to leave the settlement camps and return to their villages. i'm 23 has made a follow up statement, claiming the relocation is voluntary, but are part of they instructed those fleeing to dismantle shelters, as they leave the indian prime minister to run remotely is on route to the united states for talks with president donald

trump, the agenda is expected to cover trade and terrorist as well as migration, a hot button for the us administration. the 2 leaders were friendly during comes 1st term, but challenges to the global framework may spell, rocky times ahead are to some engine sharma breaks it all down. a st. jude. so i'm in this scenario and the movie will be in the us on february 12th and 13 abdul arnold from son whites. now the 2 leaders will be meeting for the 1st time in from 2nd till i look forward to meeting my friend president trump. although this will be our 1st meeting following his historic electoral victory and an organization in january. i have a very warm recollection of working together in his 1st time in building a comprehensive global strategic partnership between india and the us. the us is in the us talk, trading foss. no, with the total water from $120000000000.00. i. t pharma, tech styles,

you name it all the and from the share to close bones. but when prime minister in arrange moody will be in the slippery snowy washington, they will definitely be some sticking points, particularly with respect to reach doris and immigration trumps. unpredictable and transactional approach, which should make the stalks very infrequent. now let's start with swedes. terrace . swamp has threatened an eye for an eye on the map to and this particularly could hit india hard. trump has also won rather threatened ricks nations, including india, against creating this currency. that's why was the dollar the idea that the bricks countries are trying to move away from the dollar while we stand by and watch is over. we're going to require a commitment from the seemingly hostile countries that they will neither create a new bricks, currency, nor back any other currency to replace the mighty us dollar. or they will face 100

percent tariffs and should expect to say good by to selling into the wonderful us economy. not backing down and valued tele have said that the dollarization is not a policy or strategy, but the more the government which has always flushed for sweeting in local government seized by thoughts to sanction. we welcome efforts to increase financial integration among bricks, countries, trade and local currencies and smooth cross border payments will strengthen our economic cooperation. now, trump is tough on immigration recently, or us being deported back over 100 indian migraines. now india sees that it is no big deal and it's an annual ritual. what's the elephant in the room would really be ukraine since the previous you was administration for us to india, to ditch russia or we ukraine? i've quoted stand

a sick you won the quote with the possible exception of india being somewhat shaky on some of these. but japan has been extremely strong. so is australia in terms of dealing with pollutants, aggression? india stayed from focusing on its own interest and took a more balanced approach. india is in a much more advantageous position than many other countries to build deeper relations with the incoming. donald trump, 2.0 administration in the us. some countries are looking at trump $2.00 as a political challenge. we are not. so we do is sticking to its guns with plenty at stake for both sides, a wizard. what closely watching. all right, that's going to do for me for now, but to stay with us. my colleague union o'neill will be in next in about half an hour. with warner's bye the