the, the big brother mirror puts it on donald trump, hold a full conversation last the whole of 19 minutes. the 2 leaders discussed the resolution to the agreement conflict. the middle east price is a prisoner exchanges about we must start by recognizing that returning to ukraine's pre 2014 borders is an unrealistic object in its 1st amazing with nato member nations. the us defense secretary rebuffs the idea that ukraine's borders prior to that my don cruz can be restored, plus 10 present russian citizen, alex under authentic will be released from the us jail and use follow is most scope . freeing a former us embassy, employee, convicted of drug smuggling, we speak exclusively to the lawyer of the fried russian citizen. as you know,

your wife was a very strong and very concerned, you know, and he could not do any single, wasn't getting from her. and yet it's a piece, right? he's mostly is quite bored. so everybody was very much mood. the they say is our teacher now still great to have your company. my name's unit know meal we begin with breaking news. so out of here puts in on us president donald trump, have spoken by phone. the 1st time in 3 years on american and russian liter have talked, bringing it in to the ukraine. conflict was taught the agenda, the assertion you've done as it gets through the telephone conversation between president pollutants and the president of the united states. donald trump has just ended. it was a very long telephone conversation. it lasted almost an hour and

a half. they discussed issues related to the exchange of russian and us citizens. the president of the united states assured that the american side would fulfill all the agreements reached the topic of a settlement, and ukraine was also discussed. president trump spoke in favor of an early end to hostilities and a peaceful solution to the problem. president putin, for his part, mentioned the need to eliminate the root causes of the conflict. and he agreed with trump that a long term settlement can be achieved through peaceful negotiations during the conversation they discuss the middle east regulation, uranian nuclear program, as well as bilateral russian american relations. in the economics fear, the russian president invited the us president to visit moscow. they also agreed to continue personal contacts including organizing a personal meeting. that's what i wanted to tell you, which i think that's quite a comprehensive updates even though. what arts easier, more efficient off going to be know in the studio for more on this top level diplomacy at your coming as

a surprise to some we heard some of what was spoken about. so i should i refresh what was spoken of. i definitely came is a surprise, although it wasn't dissipated by maybe so much. speculation was about whether or not the 2 leaders we'll talk when would that happen? and finally, we've got confirmation both from the white house and from the cremeans that donald trump and glad important. talked for one and a half hours, quite a long conversation with given the current context of the difficult relationship between the 2 countries. and many, especially in the rest and foreign ministry has been saying that this relationship has been brought by the previous us, it ministration to the brink of collapse. so this is a definitely a positive signal and a positive sign for this relationship between the 2 countries. donald trump, in natural social, a wrote after the phone call, that the 2 leaders remembered how moscow in washington fought together in the 2nd world war and were allies. so i guess that does create a certain positive and perhaps even

a friendly contracts for any thoughts. we know that they discussed the middle east, the uranium nuclear program, prisoner exchanges, but of course, most importantly, they discussed ukraine, which is perhaps to the biggest stumbling block in this relationship between the 2 countries. donald trump has called for a stop to all me, what the reaction and for the diplomatic negotiations and vladimir put in said that he does see a possibility of a diplomatic solution to this conflict. but he says that that could only be possible if the world recognizes the root causes of a rush of special males. we operation in ukraine, and if these a root causes are not canceled or defeated, you know, there's no more of them. and we know that the 2 biggest reasons are, 1st of all, nato is expansion to the east. and the 2nd is the series of laws passed in ukraine recently, which moscow sees as a discriminatory to ask me questions and russian speakers living in the ukraine. so

uh vladimir, put in also invited donald trump to come visit moscow with his team. definitely another positive sign. we don't know whether he agreed to do so, and of course we don't know any timings yet, but hopefully that will happen definitely will do some good of for these dies. and actually we also know that donald trump talked to vladimir zalinski as well, saying that they had a full conversation the same pretty much it was said the by letting merit and savanski. but given the current context and everything else that was said today, in other places, i wouldn't the suspects of letting me is it just needs to be in the very positive mood. well, let's touch and what? yeah, that was because the pentagon chief made some interesting comments, didn't the, on peace talks between russia and ukraine? what was said, right, so they knew chief of the pentagon, went to to the nato headquarters in europe and says that washington doesn't see

ukraine returning. so it's a borders offer 2014 as something realistic, and basically that means crime in it kind of means that washington is ready to recognize crimea as a part of russia. let's listen to what he said. we must start by recognizing that returning to ukraine's pre 2014 borders is an unrealistic objective chasing this. illusionary goal will only prolong the war and caused more suffering . this is quite an interesting statement. it's coming from the new chief of the pentagon because it really goes against everything that was said earlier by the previous se, us administer ration, which was completely against recognizing crimea, as part of russia. and even now, still uh, the website of the state department says that the, the us government to recognize this crime in as part of ukraine to give you an example of the previous vibe sort of in the white house. so regarding this issue,

here's what type of rhetoric on crime here was said before. i said, very early on that should russia do so there would be consequences. we're not recognizing what has happened and crime may have been together. we have rejected any notion that there is any legality in russia's efforts to annex crimea, but we do not recognize russia's attempt to annex crimea. we agreed to disagree with russia on that front. and our crimea sanctions against russia will remain in place until russia returns the peninsula to the correct in moscow, eventually has to end its occupation of ukraine's sovereign territory. crime may is still sovereign territory of ukraine as quite the contrast to what mister, cuz i was saying to dave and he didn't stop there either today. yeah. then other

very important, the thing that he said was that the, she doesn't see it as something realistic for ukraine to become a member of nato. so that's one of the way to guess cancel is the one of the, if that would happen, that would cancel one of the root causes of the special nose would opperation. he says that that is not a possibility in washington's view. and he does say that any uh, safety security guarantees to ukraine uh, could happen with the engagement of, uh, some peacekeeping contingent throughout in ukraine. but he says that cannot be nato troops and they to not be protected by the article 5. so that is a very important point there, which was uh, in general, uh, greeted with applause, i guess, uh by both sides and proved from the press. secretary of donald trump, who uh,

who kind of was very optimistic about this phone call. lets go with that. another part of this, the a ton as well is the prisoner exchange between washington and moscow that shocked the number of people as well as the talks have not been a 9 step by side in advance. so, so who's being free? what, what occurred? right, so this whole sequence of events. so let's call it that, began with the news about this latest present or exchange between russia and the united states. we 1st found out that a mark photo was being released by russia and passed over to the united states. this is a former employee of the us embassy in moscow. he was also a later teacher and he was arrested and found guilty of drug smuggling. and then we found out that a russian citizen would be exchanged as well. we didn't know exactly who until just now. it was confirmed that that would be alexander vinegar, who was arrested some time ago in greece, extradited to the united states. and he is,

he was found guilty of money laundering. so this is the latest prisoner exchange, and we've just found out also that bell roost is releasing an american citizens, a citizen from their prison as well. so that prisoner exchange, i guess, created the foundation for this phone call. today, mark fogel, an american teacher, detained by russia, was returned to american soil and met with the president here at the white house last night. special on voice, the woodcock, and the rest of the president. trump incredible, national security team helped to negotiate the exchange that secured mark mobiles release. this event shows a good faith effort from russia and it's a sign as i just said, that we're moving in the right direction to end this brutal war. i think it's quite interesting that all of this is happening. i mean the context of these prisoner

exchange is because like last time we saw this huge prisoner exchange between washer and the united states in august and we've heard from minneapolis. so we're saying that when the official diplomacy isn't very successful, these channels and between the security services of 2 countries, they're always open and they're always working together. and even being 16 security services and secret services, they end up sort of bringing the 2 countries together. that is an amazing, i think yeah, cautious often isn't. right. it's read. i think that's the term. well, we'll use. but big news, all the same at ortiz, you were pissing off taking us 3, i think 0 as well as we were just talking about there. the u. s. is set to release russian citizens, alexander vinegar. it's being confirmed in exchange for we simply add release current, the opposite birthdate, former us embassy, employee, mark forgot. they've been sentenced to 14 years for drugs. probably mr. phoenix

attorney confirmed the swap to r t n. an exclusive and 1st, you know, i go to the spring form of yesterday. uh by uh, especially if he needs a month to get a 20 is that may be as it wouldn't be a swap. we thought it was my plans and that i should get it really useful for that . so. ready as this morning starts with again, having some phone calls with this family. and um, if i maybe call me and said that maybe like some of the would be easy because yesterday you mean that they decided to close the case. so they're waiting close relation or weezer. these are your base a tony and your late haven't mr. me back and said that you that maybe have a good news and cannot confirm anything. so all day long we, we were wait, seems you know, full, so confirmations and we birds that you were

a small shop. ah, was thinking back to jail for the 2 packs. these a, these things you'd be don't deal with to be expedited to, to restaurant. so. ready so we know is that you lack jail and now is getting really useful forest drive mission and we'd be very happy to know when you would be in the plane. taking him back home. i find any, uh, i in meds, but we assessed subsidies and all the reg man attorneys uh full deals and uh we decided to set something to see if we could push in or direction to, to uh all the items. uh, we use them to be boxed also next. wow. and uh it turned into to, to be there to is. so we are very, very happy also corporation by side to take suitcases, attention officer russian authorities. i wrote it to the prosecutor office of moscow. and rhodes, who's a bunch of jobs for fees, and all of them responded to me and they,

they told me is that they were very much paying attention about the stuff in each situation. as you know, yours, his wife. why the very strong and very concerned you know, and he could not do any senior, wasn't young frost and could not visit, need her. and he had 2 kids as mostly as white board. so everybody was very much moved by the, by just find me the by so you mean humanitarian situation. so we try that, you know, to catch it, mention of us, so sorry t. so i rode several times as a special invoice for hostages to the us. presidents and i tried to, to med people in the us and to, to, to, to make, i mean, i would say, and that's nice to know what to, to august, or if you need a seen us the potential candidates for full force. wow. so getting closer to genetic, he's getting closer to and to i tony's to us. so tony's

a to former and 4 inches us presidential hostage is people in charge of us securities and just to explain, but my clients, these nino sounds such as noble that on hands and it's at the very much these are to be to be exchange and to be signed by cold. well that's cross live now. i to former director of inter governmental affairs for the us trade representative steve gail to get his thoughts. steve griffith see you. so here we have the 1st talk between sitting us rushing leaders and some at 3 years. it feels significant. what is your view? i mean, is very significant. does. why would cost? so these are the 1st step sorts of hopefully resolving the ukraine. rest of the conflict and, and moving towards a more peaceful and prosperous situation for both ross and the united states. but i think it's a, it's very good information. and i think that when net present boot and then

president trump meet together in moscow and then apparently in the, in the west or vice versa. the does face to face meetings will bear great fruit. it's interesting how momentum works as well, isn't it? because now you've got donald trump, you know, assessing the are opening the gates for it talks with lot him or put and you expect other leaders now to perhaps think, well, we can speak with him to not get the criticism we may have received before. yeah, you can bet nobody wants to be left behind as this. this project moves in an entirely different direction that we've seen the last 3 years. and i think in addition to present trucks conversation with present putting today, you had the sector of defense, the heads of speaking in europe today, making it clear that's a blank check for ukraine is over. that the european nations in they will have to be stepping up for more of their own defense cost rather than just depending on the u. s. to bear all the costs. so i think it's, it's important what president trump and food and we're doing,

but also insect trade offense, exits was saying, and then of course, present, trump apparently also talked with presence and let's give you credit. and so all of these issues are moving very quickly on many different funds. i think it's hard to see if there's anything other than good news at this point. yeah, just some of the timing, as you mentioned, they're all about to talk with loving their zalinski. it appears we don't know for sure, but it appears that mr. trump spoke to president, put in 1st and before then telling as a lead, stay that this is what happened. this is what was talked about. i did the fact that that happened after talking to president clinton is that significant? well apparently there was the conversation between president trump and presidents a wednesday a day or say or so ago where i present zaleski indicated he would be willing to trade land for peace. i find the kind of interesting that you can't praise bye have you don't have so whatever russia has already accumulated during this process isn't

something that you're giving up if you don't actually have possession of that territory anymore. but i think the fact that zaleski is talking in terms of a finding a pathway piece where your brain will give up some of their claims. and then the fact that president, trump and zaleski, apparently had this conversation where present zaleski apparently has agreed to the transfer of $500000000000.00 and minerals in oil and other resources to, to pay the us back for what we have expended. those conversations were before the conversation that president trump had with the food. and so again, i think that laid the groundwork for the progress that we are about to say. the fact that they spoke for 19 minutes. and donald trump was invited to russia on a visit. 5 lot of them are putting. do you think mr. trump would take off that offer on me to face to face with a lot of our putting? oh, i think you, well, i think that there will be meetings and both of us and, and mosque out and uh, maybe uh,

the president present truck did have tucker carlson be his guide even to that, that mcdonald's in downtown moscow, the doctor visited dealing with this thing where they make turn odd, you have also got p tag set, am head of the pentagon saying, and then late so meet saying earlier that ukraine for turn to pre 2014 borders is all realistic as well as p of needle membership not holding back. going straight in with saying what you're not getting on. we go from there. do you think that was already agreed between russia and the us to come out and say that? i don't think it was necessarily in agreement, but it is definitely a sharp turn from what we've heard from, from the us. the last 3 or 4 years under the, by the administration where they kept all holding out. the idea that your brain would, would have nato membership that was agreed a lot of time ago that it would never happen. so what the heck just is expressing what president trump is in break. this thing is back to what we agreed before,

which would be nice if we would keep our word. and if you move that nato membership off the table, then that makes it a lot easier to reach a resolution with russia because that has been a bright minds red line that they were not willing to agree to under any circumstances. so i think again, when you start moving some of these items off the table as a be heads, as it says unrealistic, they've got to go back to 2014, pardon me, is not going back to you brain of the dog. best on. that's good. you're very awful . they have not going back to to ukraine. i think making that clear makes it easier to move forward with, with serious negotiations, dealing with reality. and you're seeing some of the nato generals and former generals express. but the reality of what's happened on the battlefield needs to be dealt with rather than sort of the fantasy that has been expressed in the media and by nato and european leaders the last several years. let's deal with reality, which is one of the things the tax that's also said that will get us closer to

a peaceful resolution. steve, if all that wasn't good enough, another big story is emerging from the u. s, which we're going to get your thoughts on in just a moment. so stay with this. if you, well not story is to say gilbert's has been confirmed as director of national intelligence by the us senate. it approves and the scabbards nomination in a 5248 vote, with just one republican from her party opposing the nomination. she's known for being a fierce critic all of that us intelligence community. she's now set to lead galvan to a former presidential candidate on a rock war veteran, as also defines us involvement invoice in the middle east and ukraine. less welcome in steve, gail again, former director of intrigue governmental at 1st for the us trade representative and talk radio host. steve, posting galbraith is not head of national intelligence. did you think that day

would be coming just a year ago? why her as well as well as the very shade even just a few weeks ago, much less of a year ago. but i think that her background, both in having served in the military having switched parties because there's a democratic party left her behind and been a top adviser to president trump during the, the course of the campaign been out there on the campaign trail, expressing her support for him made her a great choice. you had senator mitch mcconnell, the former majority leader for the republicans in the senate and minority leader voted against her. but interestingly, you had bernie sanders, who she actually supported what she was running for president herself and, and, and criticized the democratic party for mistreating him. he showed his lack of loyalty by voting against her and this note which again says more about him. the does about her, i think anybody who's actually serious about national intent intelligence, serious about us national affairs is going to embrace policy. galbraith disposition,

i think she's going to like p, texas. so that the people who have underestimated her will really the day when they started seeing the results that both he is already bringing. and then she will bring in this position. she's a tough lady. she took a lot of flow back for her stance on the ukraine conflict for one and saying that it shouldn't all be one sided do. but you need to understand where russia is coming from. the security guarantees. let's look into what moscow is saying. so hard to see her role in ending the ukraine conflict, how important will tulsa gabbert be as well both for her and for many of us who've been been, you're screaming that we need to look at the reality of what's happening on the battlefield. look at the reality of, of, of what you brain has done to their own people who have done to the folks in, in those on best region for the last decade. those semester were saying those things like tulsa, like me,

and others were streamed for being russian spies and rushman advocates in and in the pockets of food. and now the truth is coming out to, you know, again you've got to exist. you've got to the opposite western europe. same. yeah, that's all true. again, one of those great conspiracy series that have been proven right in the afternoon as again, a lot of people. oh, apologies to her and others who have criticized our policy with respect to you. your brain in russia over the last 3 years, because like her, we have all been proven right. i suggest there's going to be quite a lot of reaction at to this appointment. and she, she has not been them. she's not being given, you know, in the new york times, the washington post, cnn that, you know, with the, the best of headlines done the years. in fact, to the extent that they're saying that she could be a threat at 2 to the us going forward. now that she has not still at security,

is she going to be under like more scrutiny than we've ever seen before? and i think unfortunately for those critics, she represents the trump world view, the heads of the world view and the world view that the property ministration is bringing in. so while she was at odds with what the bite and his team were doing, which was failed international policy on every fraud, whether it was that disastrous withdrawal from afghanistan with or we're learning more about the, the funds that were paid to 100, to obtain the, the benefits from divided ministration. everything we're learning about the failed international policies and the by the administration are now being swept aside with this new trump border. and i think again, there may be critics, but the world view is going to overtake the criticism, particularly is reality becomes more apparent, or just like in the middle east, look at the heart and just being released, look at these, your people like photo and, and russia being released and the best coin got being released to russia. tropp is

making progress. the people thought was, was impossible, and he's doing it in a matter of weeks with joe biden. couldn't accomplish these things in years. she's also being criticized for having new experience working for an intelligence agency . does that will that harm her in the position or will it almost be a breath of fresh or that she can come in having no ties? no allegiance is. can say, i'm taking a fresh brush to this department, i'm going to do it our way. and the fact that she has no old ties to the establishment. you know that that's an interesting progression for people in positions. they're going to be looking where you want. i want she's going to do, i'd suggest to be here to meet with them, but i think it is a breath of fresh air and is exactly what we need when you look at the intelligence experts who have brought us so many of these failures around the world by just over the last 4 years, but over decades, when you look at those in washington who are screaming about adults and you all bus

findings ferreting out and exposing the fraud, the waste, any of these, these are the people who brought up 30 trillion dollars in depth internet print sizing, those are exposing how bad it is and how it fits it. so we've had enough of the experts, the experts failed. maybe we need some new i so new years and some new voices to, to fix these programs across the board. intelligence agencies, including the c, i a have issued volunteered resignation offers to staffers, while cyber security experts have raised concerns about 11 must at gaining access the to sensitive government data bases containing information about intelligence operations. do they have a point that he, he is a civilian for instance, that there needs to be a little more um security involved in, in such high profile issues here. but considering the number of times that our intelligence agencies have spot on,

americans spied on president trump spied on others of the trumpet ministration. again, they are, they like the little boy who cried wolf and all of a sudden when the wolf is at the door, nobody believe east them. so i think they're there hysterical complaints at this point are gonna follow a lot of dec. i fear is because their inability to secure secrets their inability to secure the private information of american citizens as has been out there for years. i mean, you had the obama administration, literally spying on americans who and, and using the iris to, to pursue americans who didn't fit their own political idiology. so again, i think very hysterical complaints at this point don't really carry a lot of water because they, they want to have for critical. i trust you on must a lot more that i trust. the 51 intelligence agents who falsely claimed that the 100 biden laptop was, was bogus as a way to try and help joe biden get re elected steve. just finally in conclusion.

then you've been great with your time today, but these less than a month. donald trump has been in office and he's just got the guy he tells me he's just going the opposite is or any hesitation at all that he's making so many sweeping changes that it's, it's going to take a while to, to catch up with him or is this what was needed? i think it's like when i get it, it's a beautiful piece of chocolate take in front of me. i use it so fast. i really can't tell what i'm already false and there is up here. i think that the present from is, is moving so fast that our appetite is exceeded by our consumption. so i think there are some legitimate concerns there. but it's the same time when they promised shocked and all when they were coming in for peer at this time. unlike the 1st time he took office, i don't think we understood what shocked and all would look like until we see what's happened the last few weeks. and there is still more to come. i think as

long as they continue to to show progress, they'll make mistakes. i think the last was just having to explain in a press conference the uh, the idea that we spend $50000000.00 on condoms for dogs of that the condoms actually went to mozambique is the kind of error that most americans aren't really going to be concerned about because whether we're sending $50000000.00 in columns to gaza, or most that beat, that is a waste of american taxpayer dollars. so while they move too fast, sometimes to be entirely address, there's still hitting the right spots over and over again. and i think that's what's going to pay off in the long run. former director of inter couple of periods for the us trade representative, steve gail and say thanks for broaching all those subjects with us. it's been quite a day. thank you. well that is where we leave the news run top for now. as we say development seemingly by the minute we'll bring it to you in 3.