the, the, the, the big calls after years with no contact between russian american leaders, vladimir putin and donald trump over the phone conversation last thing, almost 19 minutes. a resolution to the ukraine conflict, the middle east crisis, prisoner exchanges were all discussing more no nato membership or pre my done 2014 borders for t as president trump. we are firms. his administration spends on negotiations concerning events, events, and i'm, and i'm ok with that. i just want the word whether they are there or not. but i, it certainly would seem to be that most people have said that that is something of a 2nd clause sent prison to russian computer program,

or alexander finnic is to be released from the us. gail, the news follows most of freeing a former us embassy, employee, convicted of drug smuggling. mister phoenix lawyer spoke to explicitly as you know, we lost his wife for that very strong and very concerned, you know, and he could not do anything. it wasn't 0 need for us to not leave her. i would like to extend my sincere thanks and gratitude to phoenix mother who has been actively helping, fighting for her son's freedom fears, critic of global american military adventure isn't to say gilbert. now overseas, all of us value agencies after being confirmed in a close center, told us director of national intelligence move, drawing fire from the washington, establish the

the revery or catching the news hour from today across the world. welcome to moscow on to our to international law, the mirror puts in on us president donald trump have spoken by phone the 1st time in 3 years on american i'm russian leader have pulled together, bringing it in to the ukraine. conflict was the top of the agent. i especially knew them. there's a history of the telephone conversation between president pollutants and the president of the united states. donald trump has just ended. it was a very long telephone conversation. it lasted almost an hour and a half. they discussed issues related to the exchange of russian and us citizens. the president of the united states assured that the american side would fulfill all the agreements reached the topic of a settlement, and ukraine was also discussed. president trump spoke in favor of an early into hostilities and a peaceful solution to the problem. president putin, for his part, mentioned the need to eliminate the root causes of the conflict. and he agreed with trump that

a long term settlement can be achieved through peaceful negotiations during the conversation they discuss the middle east regulation, the uranium nuclear program, as well as bilateral russian american relations. in the economics fear, the russian president invited the us president to visit moscow. they also agreed to continue personal context, including organizing a personal meeting. that's what i wanted to tell you, which i think that's quite a comprehensive updates even though it may be just a telephone call. but it's a big one. and they call in big news for the relationship between moscow and washington, that was so much speculation about whether or not the 2 leaders would speak when they would. and now finally, we've got confirmation both from the white house and from the kremlin that led me to put in. and donald trump spoke for about one and a half hours, which is quite substantial, but perhaps not too much in context of the current to difficult relationship between the 2 countries, which many frankly thought that it already reached the verge of collapse and lots

of fennel as we're talking about it and we're saying that especially in the russian foreign ministry of that to the state that this relationship currently is. uh, it was, it was brought there by the previous us administration, which made so many efforts to do so. well. donald trump was saying that he wanted to speak with what we have put in during his election campaign. and now it's good to know that you weren't so these weren't just the election promises, but the real actions, which now happened, we know that they discussed the bilateral ties. they discussed the situation in the middle east, the uranium nuclear program. donald trump said that the even remembered how moscow in washington fought together against the nazis in the 2nd world war, perhaps creating a positive maybe even a friendly context for this stock. but of course, most importantly, they discussed ukraine, the biggest stumbling blocks in the relations between the 2 countries. donald trump is called on the immediate stop of any military action in ukraine and for the start

of these talks and bladder. important says that he does see a possible diplomatic solution to the conflict, but he says that could only happen a for the root causes of a rush of special military operations in ukraine are recognized internationally and results. and we know, and this has been said so many times by the president and by the for administer that the 2 main reasons are, nato was expansion to the east and a set of ukrainian laws which moscow sees as a discriminatory against the ethnic russians and russians speakers in ukraine, vladimir pul points and also invited donald trump to visit moscow. but of course we don't know any uh, specific dates or whether or not even he accepted this invitation, but still it's a positive signal and they agreed to continue with their contacts. also, donald trump, after that phone call, said that he spoke with vladimir zelinski as well. and you said that they had a, a full conversation. the same type of feedback came from savanski as well. but

frankly, with everything else that was said today in other places and with everything else that happened today, i don't really think that he would be in a good mood. the new chief of the pentagon went to to the nato headquarters in europe and says that washington doesn't see ukraine returning, so it's a borders offer 2014 as something realistic. basically that means crimea, we must start by recognizing that returning to ukraine's pre 2014 borders is an unrealistic objective to chasing this. illusionary goal will only prolong the war and caused more suffering. this is quite an interesting statement. it's coming from the new chief of the pentagon because it really goes against everything that was said earlier by the previous se, us administer ration, which was completely against recognizing crimea, as part of russia. and even now still uh, the website up, the state department says that the,

the us government to recognize this crime in as part of ukraine. i said, very early on that should russia do so there would be consequences. we're not recognizing what is happening in crime evans together, we have rejected any notion that there is any legality in russia's efforts to annex crimea, but we do not recognize russia's attempt to annex crimea. we agree to disagree with russia on that front, and our crimea sanctions against russia will remain in place until russia returns the peninsula to the correct in moscow, eventually has to end its occupation of ukraine's sovereign territory. crime may is still sovereign territory of ukraine and also another door closed for a key of seemingly as lead i by the us defense secretary to write to be the headset also said that the washington doesn't see that it's very realistic for ukraine to

become a member of nathan, and both of both uh uh, ukraine becoming a member of nato. and the whole border of the situation and of course, cried me. it was something that keith was very keen on resolving and with this possibility causing down, it's not very good news for a key of the us defense. secretary says that if a diplomatic solution was reached, and if some sort of theoretical peacekeeping contingent was to be deployed along with the line of contact in this complex, then that could not be nato troops. either the so that they could not be protected by article 5. so these are not very good news for key if a prisoner exchange between washington and moscow occurred as well. i'm to kim or the blue some up because talks all not had not been a night spike either side. so who's free? right, well these things usually take a lot of time. yeah. and prepare,

usually done under the carpet and to visit us today. what started this whole sequence of events which eventually led to the phone conversation between the 2 leaders in the morning here in moscow, we found out that a prisoner exchange between washington, the united states was taking place uh, a rush. it was releasing a mark photo, a us citizen of a former staff member of the us embassy in moscow. so a teacher who was jailed for drug trafficking in russia. and later on we found out that he's being exchanged for a russian citizen. alexander v need accused of money laundering in the united states. we've just found out also that the bellows is releasing and american citizens a citizen from their prison as well. so that prisoner exchange, i guess, created the foundation for this phone call. today, mark fogel, an american teacher, detained by russia, was returned to american soil and met with the president here at the white house

last night. special envoy, steve woodcock, and the rest of president trump incredible national security team helped to negotiate the exchange that secured mark mobiles release. this event shows a good faith effort from russia and its assigned, as i just said, that we are moving in the right direction to end this brutal war. you know, i find it quite fascinating that it was a, as a result of the cooperation of the security services of the 2 countries. because for many, it seemed that diplomatic channels already failed in this relationship. but as we saw during the summer when in this massive exchange of prisoners between which and the western specifically, the united states happens, we've heard from many analysts that these channels communication channel is between the security services are always open and we're seeing, we're looking at it right now again, and it's remarkable how often you now are mines, the security services are supposed to be working against each other. but in reality, in this particular case,

it looks like they ended up bringing of the 2 countries pools or the whole of trump has reaffirmed his defense secretary's earlier statement on the day who dismissed the return for ukraine to previous borders. us leader, also on that there's no pump to nato membership for q secretary, defense who's actually pete made a statement today saying that he thinks is unlikely or impractical. i think probably that's true. i think long before president button, as i said, there's no way that allow that this has been going on for many, many years. and they've been saying that for a long time that ukraine can not go into nato. that can, i'm and i'm ok with that. i just want the word whether they are there or not. but i, it certainly would seem to be that most people have said that that is something that's not good. i will i speak now to retired us army, lieutenant colonel on international security consultant. earl ross mason,

you're most welcome sir. donald trump saying there, he's fine with ukraine, not joining nato. it was something though. western leaders dian gold in front of kit for, for a long time. not hard you for see such a statement influencing the piece process. well, i think that's a good statement of the stuff forward, and it's a recognition of reality. i think the last administration uh, less space of this whole thing that started back underneath obama with the, the, the crew that occurred in 2014 the demonstrations. 2013. um and so this is a and kinda double down again when uh uh, when biting came in the office. uh, this is, this has been going on for quite a while and i think really trump is uh, you know, he wasn't too pro on this uh,

one of the 1st term. and i think reality is set in and we've had mass of losses. europe, the us military equipment, the cost, the economy, some suffered in the west as well. and we destroyed is but basically a and a generation or 2 in ukraine. and so this has been a very project. ukraine was a, was a project that should never have started. it should never have happened, but it did. and i think uh, president trump is correct in the end of the assessment here. and i think the reality, you see here, the statements coming from uh, uh, from a secretary, rubio and from secretary a pig. so in the really it's a realization of more of a reality. it's almost like a blinking side was in a parallel universe. now it's to get the zalinski on board and that's baby will

need to have a new uh, maybe that's why we're pushing for elections to have a see a transition there. but i think we're starting to make headway and then a dialogue. we actually have a dialogue between the 2 leaders and it wouldn't surprise me if the ruby all reach out to the loved rob would be, has an already. this is a major step forward and kind of considering the previous administration, which almost a, you know, a cancel culture attempt on russia which it has been passed. so i think this is a, a step forward, a very positive step forward. uh, what we've seen so far. yeah, we'll see where that momentum at leads us as well. just on the, on the nato questionnaire. oh, is this a change of policy by washington or simply erroring opposition that to us? possibly all was health, but it was beneficial not to make public i think the the objective

here. i don't know if the train really seriously was, even though they talked about this back in 2007, 2008. i or that whole objective, this map. so me improve security to the west or improve security for nato and extension. there would be server containment, it, and isolating the rest of that would be the objective of, of bringing in ukraine it in georgia as well, into nato. this is a, i think it was a very, very poorly placed decision back then. and then objective the wrongly in the wrong direction. i think part of it is from the still the lingering cold war mentality. we have with many senior leaders here. so i realistically, ukraine. i just can't, can never picture thing part of nato. and i think the pro ukrainian nation and uh, and europe and russia neutrality and that's why it was put in their constitution in

1991. the neutrality is the best place and actually a kind of a bridge between the rest and the west. it really is a much more beneficial direction for ukraine. unfortunately, they're taking a detour for many years weapons they use phone call between the leaders last at some 90 minutes. so a lot to get through a lot of topics to be broached. mr. trump then said later, he would probably meet in person with slumber putting in saudi arabia. and is that significant? what's your take on the choice of location? no, i think it, it's a, it's a positive move again, a face to face meeting, but i think personally, yeah, i yeah. i think those are very positive. more of a personal level often. um, i think also interesting the middle least, the very important area and they, they've acted as a go between for,

for many things that a, sorry, reveal. so since they have close relations with the, with russia being with the opec plus but it's involved with them and just in general, and they have historical relations with the us. so it's actually a actually, that's a good location, i think, a good choice. and as far as a face to face meeting and dialogue to occur from certainly progressing on as need. he's right at the gate, but what he is doing, but do you expect resistance at to, to this current foreign policy course from, from inside the, the us, you know, the establishment will they feel threatened? will there be? will there be some sorts of backlash from them and will it be sustained in time? i'm sure they will be back, but some sure little level will be pressure. be put on him as well. he's well, he's shocked. washington in 3 weeks already. know that it just,

you wake up in the morning and you look at your phone and see what tweaks went out last night. uh, and its uh, every day its something different than a major chains. we've got the agencies being torn apart and it just is uh yeah it's, it's, uh it is it businesses, this may be a shock to me. i don't the elite, the insiders but they're, uh, they've got other things to worry about right now. like their jobs and in the main organizations they operate from are being threatened as well. we saw the usa, i d being shut down, there's law suits out to try the counter that we're seeing investigations into audits being conducted the across the agencies. so this is a there's, there's much more going on than just the same policy shift and, and maybe that's intentional. but it's, uh, i think the move in here,

and i think we need to change our foreign policy or foreign policy. it's been a, has really been poor, especially recently, but we've had issues for, for many years. so i think got a positive change in if we can to come up with a constructive change to work together that would be very positive. although we, we have our sanctions, um our, our terrorist and our sanction issues still to deal with those. well. so it's, uh they're, they're more likely to go. yeah, there's bumps in the road, isn't there that, that, that, that are there because we have the white high spokes person seeing that donald trump use russia as a competitor, but wants to maintain good relations. he, you know, you've got l n g that he wants to sell to europe, you know, bypassing, if russia goes back and on with that, you've got bricks per in c, you know, being it being threatened as well. so it's the, there's, there's

a few thorns in the, in the prickly relationship. how to do overall though donald trump strategy towards russia. no, i think it's good thing showing some initiative here as a trying to i think both the leaders want to end the violence or, and the violence in the, in the killing. but you need to recognize the rushes, valid security concerns in their uh, in the reality on the ground. i mean, let's face it, this made, it was thrown aside from nuclear weapons or throwing almost everything they have. they've just all the weapons, the munition, they cannot, their industry cannot keep up with the paints that the russian industry goes at the and you don't want to go to nuclear weapon. you don't want to escalate it to that level because most everyone loses in that. it situation, but it's uh, unfortunately we, the west is to use the ukraine as a, as a mechanism for,

for manning these weapon systems and, and, and we, boston, tragic loss of, of generation just dropping off for a i think there is something that we haven't seen for, for quite a while going on, i'm not sure if you agree, but optimism on, on that plus momentum. it can be, it can be a powerful change mechanism, can't it? it can, we're, we're obviously going to have issues in, in the was the political higher key and in ukraine i think the public will probably support the direction. we're going to have some pushback from the european leaders . but you see the public goods, european leaders are not do too well with their own public. you've got the strong leaders there with the or button and, and so, and some others the in the background. so you seen changes occurring in, in uh, europe to which i think will,

will gradually move in more support of the prompts and the, uh, president trump, the initiatives here. but even with say, just finding with western countries as well. the, the people we've seen them say, you know, maybe it's time for you, premium refugees to, to go home. you know that, that opposition is growing as well as it or it is. absolutely. i think they're looking at so too much of a strain. you know, and you, you found some issues with tucker carlson, i'm sure recently with a uh, with a corruption on ukraine with the the just to assessment defect one of the most expensive ski resorts and the majority of the people there are ukranian and saying and 5 star hotels and it just, you know, you know, i don't think we get a full picture of what we get on our news here on the situation and, and having a balance there too. but, but in general, i think we see some pushes from the populace. and,

and changes politically and in your we see some changes occurring here in the us and, and finally a dialogue occurring. so there's a lot of opportunity for, you know, for optimal and optimistic view and potential chance a chance to kind of steer this in a different direction to more of a positive direction. absolutely. optimal. awesome, awesome. so at least a sliver of optimism for going on. yeah, there certainly is. thanks so much for briefing all the time for us at this hour. speaking to us from washington, dc, retired lieutenant colonel, an international security consultant or russ missing. much appreciate. thank you. but another big development, the us is set to release russian citizen alexander vin, a convicted of to courtesy laundry in exchange for recently freed former u. s embassy employee mark photo who was serving a 14 year sentence in russia for drug scrubbing. possibly another sense of data on

going on here with this wall on speaking exclusively to our tea, mr. vin, ex legal team shirts, some details that i find to be the i in mass, but we assessed subsidies that are on the break. man. i don't use a full, you know, and we decided to set something to see if we could push in for direction to, to uh, all i have really ease down to meet boston next. wow. and uh its or to, to, to be the case. so we are very, very happy our whole coverage then by trying to fix it, gets it fashion officer russian authorities. i wrote it to the 1st to keep the office of most schools. i have own roads to the doctor for the fees and all of them responded to me and they, they told me is that they were very much paying attention about the stuff he needs a situation. as you know, he lost his wife. why? the very strong and very concerned, you know,

and he could not do any senior wasn't. jeremy foster could not visit, need her. and he had 2 kids as most ice white ford. so everybody was very much mood losing a mileage low being for a solution. but it has been a one way efforts we have not received any concrete answers or solutions from the other side is seeing. we will simply low being to get our client released abuto and there was a court hearing on tuesday. unfortunately, the judge made the hearing secret. we are still awaiting further information about the status of our client. the russian government has clearly stated that this is a gesture of goodwill that has been positively received by the american government . mister photo met with from the white house, which is a positive development, and they have even linked it to military operations. and the, and i see this is a positive step towards peace. i am optimistic that all this will lead to a positive outcome. the fact is that the government keep these deals secret. for

the past few months, we have been actively lobbying for our clients release using various means including amnesty dropping charges, an extra change the kind of presidential potters, good. so by me, i would like to extend my sincere thanks and gratitude to venice, mother who has been actively helping in fighting for her son's freedom. he will also in an exclusive interview with r t v, or the nick said she hasn't received any official confirmation of her sultan's release. as yet, smith's been assured what it's being like for her grandchildren waiting for their father to come home. and if that would happen, don't that you might see just even more in the children have pain in their eyes. there is pain and expectation and every word in their body, just expectation. the kids don't want to go anywhere. they don't want anything. they say daddy's coming daddy's coming, and it's like this year after year. i'm heartbroken. i'm sick. i'm losing my voice

because of the nerves. my legs are numb. i understand that someone has to tell me if it's my son who's going to be released. we don't show the news to the children. they don't read any news. we will tell the children only when we know for sure, and the official authorities confirm it. i hope and i pray until they officially confirm it or tell me, i won't believe it. i'm so tired of this waiting, so until i see my son, i won't believe any one. yeah, yeah, the very human side of that story, no more news. emerging states side to see galbraith has been confirmed as the director of national intelligence by the us senate heading americas by operations going forward. congress approved miss gilbert's nomination in a $5248.00 vote, which is one republican opposing heard on the nation. she's known for being a fierce critic of the us intelligence community. she's now set to lead gilbert, a former presidential candidate on

a rock war veteran has also denounced us involvement in the middle east and ukraine . conflicts from ahead of interest, governmental affairs for the us trade representative agency. steve, go to list the ex democratic congresswoman position on american aid to key if that's proven to be right as well, both for her and for many of us who've been been you're screaming that we need to look at the reality of what's happening on the battlefield. look at the reality of, of, of what you brain has done to their own people as i've done to the folks in, in those on past region for the last decade. those of us who were saying those things like policy, like me and others, were streamed for being russian spies and russian advocates in and in the pockets of food. and now the truth is coming out to, you know, again, you've got a text this, you've got the opposite western europe saying, yeah, that's all, all true. again, one of those great conspiracy series that have been proven right in the afternoon as again, a lot of people. oh, apologies to her. she's not being given, you know,

when the new york times the washington post, cnn that, you know, they, the best of headlines done the years. in fact, to the extent that they're saying that she could be a threat at 2 to the us going forward. now that she heads knoxville at security, is she going to be under like more scrutiny than we've ever seen before? i think unfortunately for those critics, she represents the trump world view, the heads of the world view and the world view that the trumpet administration is bringing in. so while she was at odds with was defied and his team were doing which was failed international policy on every side. whether it was that disastrous withdrawal from afghanistan with, or we're learning more about the, the funds that were paid to 100, to obtain the, the benefits from divided ministration. everything we're learning about the failed international policies and the by the administration are now being swept aside in this new trump border. and i think again, there may be critics,

but the world view is going to overtake the criticism, particularly is reality becomes more apparent. again, just like in the middle east, look at the heart of just being released. look at these, your people like photo and rice are being released and a bit going, god being released, the rest of the truck is making progress. the peoplesoft was was impossible. well, others are lot for now and a busy news day, but our web team are busy putting together analysis on reaction to the putting trump developments and all the rest of our team don't call them a check when you can before the .