through their illusions, going underground, can the presidents put an end to trump potentially discuss ending the ukraine conflict and it appears. cabinets european allies are in for a rude awakening. they've been saying that for a long time that you crank and not go into nato then, and i'm, and i'm ok with that, we must start by recognizing that returning to ukraine's pre 2014 borders is an unrealistic objective. moscow shows proof that ukraine attacked international atomic energy agency inspectors while they were being escorted by the russian military toward this upper roadside nuclear power plants. plus indian prime minister and a vendor mowdy is in washington for talks with president trump and has already met

with a newly confirmed national intelligence director tool to gabbert who is also a prominent the live from our headquarters in moscow. i'm rachel ruble. this is r t international. we're covering the top news stories from around the world. a mazda stop diplomat has taken shots at the west as what he describes as a normal phone call between the russian and us presidents has caused an uproar among the trains allies for ministers, circuit lover. i've added that his colleagues in europe seem to have forgotten how diplomacy works and yet, but i just want but as you'll touch, the i was struck by the fact that the whole world is now when it kind of stupid. they regard the phone conversation and the result of that phone conversation as something out of the ordinary. so this is wanting to bite in administration led by the president, that european satellites have brought themselves to. and they have discarded

diplomacy as a method of communicating with the outside world. they have switch to the language of the threats sanctions bombing, the non see key every gene to wage war against the russian federation. judging by the surprise, the stoopa that the phone call between trump and polluted cause the west is taking everything that's going on in ukraine. what zalinski is nazi regime is doing as a given that this is exactly how you should communicate with russia. that is probably why many in the west starting with the leaders of the european union, was stunned when a normal elementary conversation between 2 well managed. polite people took place. people who do not take know the differences and then many of them. but who are very aware that politics is about sitting down to talk and find common ground. i am very sad that the reaction of the west shows that there are practically no such people left them and went to well mounted people. demonstrate how politics must be done, i hope it will sober up those who have forgotten and make them re read the history and political science textbooks are to is donald carter joins me now here in the

studio with more details down. of course, we've been anticipating this 1st conversation between the russian, the newest president's for a long time, and now it's happened. what's the latest? well, in addition to what sort of a live, rob said, we also have some new commentary about this phone call between donald trump and vladimir putin from the kremlin. and it looks like both parties are actually already getting the ball rolling when it comes to organizing an in person meeting between the 2 heads of state. the push limit is global. this window to secure the heads of states agreed yesterday during a telephone conversation that they themselves would continue to contact and are looking to a separate meeting. we also agreed that instructions would be given immediately to the relevant aids so that they can start the necessary work. now, of course, the work will be started quickly. it will be necessary to wait for certain developments. it will be possible to talk about where when and so on, was an important conversation,

considering the situation of the last several years when there has been no high level contact between moscow and washington. of course, that lack of contact did not contribute at all to the search for any supplement options. the previous us administration held the view that everything should be done to ensure that the work continues as far as we understand the current administration. here's to the view that everything must be done to stop the war and for peace to prevail. we're much more impressed with the position of the current administration, and we're open to dialogue. the experience of the misc agreement speaks volumes, and of course we will always take this experience into account in all future steps . it now is very significant that pest golf mentions the men sca agreements there because they were supposed to establish a ceasefire in the ukraine conflict all the way back in 2015 when they were signed and germany and france were 2 parties actually signed off on them but then they, their officials later admitted, but essentially this agreement, this cease fire was only intended to buy ukraine time so that it could build up its

military and prepare for a wider conflict. so obviously russia is not going to be satisfied with just the ceasefire here. it wants to put an end to the conflict once and for all. and the european union's media and officials are now feeling a little worried that they're going to be left out between direction to go in terms of direct negotiations between the us and russia. as far as the deal, what a deal could potentially look like. i know we've in early stages here because we've only just had this initial phone call with putting in and trump, but any indication of what that deal could look like. well, based on the trumpet, ministrations, recent statements, it looks like it's taking a much more pragmatic outlook on the whole situation than the previous by then ministration. and that means that ukraine is going to be in for a serious reality check. and see was actually pete made a statement today saying that he thinks is unlikely or impractical. i think probably that's true. i think long before president button,

they said there's no way they to allow that this has been going on for many, many years. and they've been saying that for a long time that you grange and not go into nato then. and i'm, and i'm ok with that, i just want the word whether they are there or not. but i, it certainly would seem to be that most people have said that that is something that's not gonna work. well, i think pete said today that that's unlikely, right? we must start by recognizing that returning to ukraine's pre 2014 borders is an unrealistic objective, is chasing this. illusionary goal will only prolong the war and cause more suffering. it certainly would seem to be unlikely. they took a lot of land and they fought for that land and they lost a lot of uh they lost a lot of soldiers, but it would just seem to be and i'm not, i'm not making an opinion on it, but i read a lot on it. and lot of people think that, that sort of likely dawn,

what role does ukraine play and all of this? well, right after his phone conversation with putting trump actually caught, called up the lensky ends. lensky said that that conversation had gone on for about an hour while at the same time the ukrainian media was reporting that it was only 10 minutes different. but the difference might be because ukrainian media has been reporting a lot that keeps becoming more and more worried that it's also going to be sidelined in some potential negotiations between the united states and russia. uh so you know, um the price that uh when, when trump was asked, asked about that possibility about the ukrainian media or the key averaging, being sidelined in terms of these negotiations. he actually said that, you know, we're gonna have to see some elections take place in the country. no, i don't think so as long as he's there, but yeah, at some point you're gonna have to have elections too. you're gonna have to have an election of us defense. secretary was also asked

a similar question during these meetings. he's attending right now with native defense secretaries and he basically ack codes. what trump said there the well, that's your language. not mine, certainly not a betrayal. but as i said to our allies yesterday, we recognize the incredible commitment that has been made over many years. and no country as a president, trump has pointed out, has very large or commitment to the ukrainian mission in the united states of america, north of $300000000000.00. so the united states has invested in stabilizing those front lines after the aggression of russia, there is no betrayal there. there is a recognition that the whole world in the united states has invested and interested

in peace, a negotiated piece. so as you can see, we're finally seeing some sort of paradigm shift here, a paradigm shift towards piece, and it's actually one that they are being union and ukraine don't seem very happy about. yeah, it's really interesting. i mean, finally getting some reality out there, at least all right, are to use on the quarter done. thank you. and the german defense minister doesn't appear to be happy about how things are going with all is using. this is obviously, it's unfortunate, and i say this truthfully, the trump administration had already made public admissions to put them before negotiations. i've even begun from my point of view. it would have been better to talk about ukraine's possible nato membership or the countries lots of territory only at the negotiating table and not take it off the table beforehand. all right, we can discuss this now live with a story on the lena moore, them a professor emeritus at lebanese university who is also writing a book about the russia ukraine comp,

like the lien. i good to have you on the program with us, so not quite a 24 hour resolution, but things are at least moving in a positive direction. what do you think is the likelihood president trump can actually help to resolve the ukraine conflict? i think he has the 1st student on the market to be able to do that to the strongest country. and the a talking about the about is, is it is, was how much is red jordan egypt to the asked him, which is from what the right you are decided the presumptive because what he said the sits is act of as a you, as a we, i'm not to saying i approve or disapprove, i just to make a i see that it is the zip case. so when they decide something using photos the they decide to the to, to go into the ukranian war. and are you the float?

no matter what the people is, a funeral for to have decided if, if he is successful, they think this puts trump in a position to become a peacemaker. for other complex, for example, the middle east, where the peacemakers, he likes space. first of all, because of what is not good for the business, you know, and he likes to make good use and businesses. he talks up, what does the, i hope the, the, the war of ukraine will be stopped because it is costing too, too, too far, too many lives. so what was the, what is it is we spoke to a, the, they maybe some things on each term. is not to have the passivity to, to make does maybe his 2 maybe can save it and if it goes and i gave way a few can go to the old ones. they don't know who complicates a little of what's as. yeah, it is complicated. indeed, lena,

during their latest talks president putting stress to the need to eradicate the root cause of the ukrainian crisis. this is something has been clear about from the very beginning. what needs to happen then? and how could washington play a role? which is the uh, the book signature of need to, to the russian frontier. i think that the most agree in this matters because the trump said that she has been following the of this for a long time. he has been, are these think about this a lot a and he seems to give you any way. he doesn't like maple much, you know, it, he, there are books that let's see. what got he said, so the same thing for his 1st election campaign, but you didn't do it. but now where i think that is all the, the trouble this has been closed and all the money of the test. it says cost. i

think that to him he may stop, stop the reason of me to to come close to the russian borders. it's enough to cut to subsidies and it's enough to give you the word to listen states. i'm very sorry to say mostly because i'm french also. i'm very, very said, but the word listen to it's me. it's the ability, since it doesn't mean the people's, you know, right, lena, there's a report in the financial times that european officials are concerned with the cost of reconstruction in ukraine will fall on them. do you think that is likely to happen and can be and you even afford it? it's me for them is for the united states, refuse to, to contribute it to me some but maybe just thinking by the show because a,

a is a recent history and i sure has been hoping you're putting a wizard by giving the natural gas for the very low price, in an exception to your low price, or in other ways which, which makes it really of it is danger. the events are strange knowing how much of it has been. of such have of course, no nation gives a head for julie domestic reasons of which was a, when there was assisting in those of you since the studio 1st relations of russian a couldn't i was. i was stunned by this discovery. and i think the to is it may be either, so we participate in the plus direction as it did already. money you, for on the, on the bases where you, when you go to my, my, you probably know it's a,

is you constructed city even even it's did it or did it has some, some places which has been the run the lives or was to have is it to run the lies, why, wherever it means it's already inhabited for the, for the weight as human to use as the construction of many courses of my do for the surface. and i think the russians can do the same as a gift to, to have to have these uh, and with the lesions, i think that the, you can buy a good relations for the high price because i have not just, for a long time, the russian lovely opinions of the content is not to forward his 30 galleries and because of the evidence sink started, you know, with the, with the put a green boy said interesting point, right? of who, who, who wrote the very famous writings, chip, tinkle that has to attend. and the amongst is ethics,

there is one which school is a to, to genocide and for the police and, and use. so you can not to agree with that with the course to generalize whether they are no, no it has means the russian version has taken place. but i think that the piece could be bought by. okay. but you just choose as good really like this was the earlier, the union has to place this improve, but so it can, it's kind of, it's, it's in an economic it to me. right. and, and thank you for pointing out the, the long a historical ties and friendly relations between russia and ukraine originally. but there for now, lena moore, and i'm a historian, and professor and morales at 11 is university. thank you. i think you all right, turning now to breaking news from germany where 27 people have reported they've

been injured in a suspected car running attack in munich, according to the bavarian premier von forces that are at the scene and say the driver has been secured. the driver is reported to be a 24 year old asked in man. the incident occurred just one day before the city is set to host a security conference where us vice president, judy vance and flooding as well as the are expected to attend it. we'll keep on top of the story and continued to bring you more details as we get them. the international atomic energy agency vehicles came under ukrainian attack while being escorted by a russian military convoy the defense ministry in moscow. published footage of wednesdays incidents in the vicinity of this upper rose a nuclear power plant. the i, a chief, said the plant rotation of inspectors was cancelled due to quote intense military activity in the region. i deeply regret today's cancellation of the carefully prepared and agreed rotation of stuff to

a carrying out vital work and very challenging circumstances to help prevent a nuclear accident during the military conflict. it is completely unacceptable that the safety of our stuff is jeopardized in this way. as a result of these extremely concerning events, i'm an active consultation with both sides to guarantee the safety of our teams and to secure the continued presence of the i a v, a as apple, rosie a nuclear power plant to enable our staff to continue the indispensable mission, helping to maintain nuclear safety and security. the ukranian militants attacks the international atomic energy agency is going boy, at least at 12 times with the help of drones and artillery. several vehicles of the russian on forces were damaged as a result and the rotation of the i, a experts was disruptive yet again. now this particular team had been waiting for the opportunity to be replaced by their colleagues, the station since the 5th of february, when they made the 1st and successful attempt to rotate which was disrupted by

ukraine. now, the structure of the rotation of experts occurred entirely due to the deliberate actions of the ukrainian side. if, according to the russian defense ministry, they added that russia has entirely fulfilled the, all of its obligations to insure security and establish so called the regime of minutes restarted. and in the area of the rotation of the experts. now, at the same time, the minutes and so the key every, she made the yet another attempt to attack the nuclear power plant itself by using drones. and the one of those drones crash just 300 meters away from the 1st our unit, something nuclear power plants. meanwhile, the international atomic energy experts have returned to the nuclear power plants. and now can senior stand one in certain mission a, waiting for another rotation. the indian prime minister and

a render emoji has arrived in washington for a 2 day visit, and his 1st meeting with donald trump since the presidents and all your ration well shortly after he landed, the newly confirmed us and national intelligence director hosted the indian later for talks the senate approved to tulsa gab are just hours before the meeting. she's a practicing hindus, who has long been promoting closer ties between washington and new delhi. those who oppose my nomination imply that i am loyal to something or someone other than god. my own conscience and the constitution of the united states. accusing me of being trumps puppet hooton's puppet. a sides puppet, a grooves, puppet modi's puppet. not recognizing the absurdity of simultaneously being the puppet of 5 different puppet masters. the fact is what truly unsettled my political opponents is. i refuse to be their puppet. as lawmakers passed her nomination by 52

votes to 48 on wednesday was just one republican and imposing the move. miss gabbert is known for being a 1st critic of the very intelligence committee. she will now lead local journalists to kill them up and has more tells the gap or it is a former us soldier. she has served in the us military on top of that. she's been presidential candidate, donald trump's decision to select tulsa galbraith provoked a huge amount of outcry from his critics. because tulsa gabbert is long, diverge from what the intelligence community says. and she has long criticize the actions of the united states around the world. she is a non intervention essentially arguing that the united states should focus on its own affairs and stop meddling and countries across the planet and her, assuming the role of intelligence directors certainly raised some eyebrows and some criticism from those who defend the us, political and military establishment,

let's review just some of what tulsa gabbert has said over the years about u. s. foreign policy and the intelligence community back in 2020, when she was running for the presidency and the democratic parties. presidential primary. here's what she had to say about what was then her own party and the serious problems about its internal life and how it is managed that our democratic party unfortunately, is not the party that is of by and for the people. it's a part of it is a party that has been and continues to be influenced by the foreign policy establishment in washington represented by hillary clinton and others foreign policy by the military, industrial complex and other greedy, corporate interest. tulsa gabbert has raised concerns about the war and ukraine, and how much money the american tax payers are spending on it. saying that this is a war that never would have happened. you have roches, legitimate security concerns that been respected,

is also called out the cranium liter. zalinski for his control over the media and suppression of opposition parties. furthermore, she raised the alarm about the bio labs and ukraine and the potential danger to global health security. democrats, republicans, the main stream media, the washington elite, essentially in the pocket of the military industrial complex. and rather than looking out for what's in the best interest of the american people, our national security, our country, they see dollar science when they look at ukraine, there are $25.00 to $30.00 us funded bio labs in ukraine. according to the us government. these bio labs are conducting research on dangers pathogens. ukraine is in an active or zone with widespread bombing, or tillery in showing. and these facilities, even in the best of circumstances, could easily be compromised and released these deadly pathogens. now light cove at

these passages no no borders. when she ran for president in 2020, she very much positioned herself as a critic of the u. s. wars in iraq and syria. and here is what she had to say in an interview with r t. why is it such a difficult position to take to say that we should stop army streaming the stream service? it's really not a difficult position, nor should it be. i think every american would be a surprise to know that for years our government has been providing both direct and indirect support. to these are militant groups who are working directly with or, or even under the command of terrorist groups. like all tied to an ice is all in their or their effort and fight to over throw the syrian government. and she hasn't stopped criticizing the washington establishment and it's policies of what she refers to as the forever wars. these were her very words in for confirmation.

hearing with the senate intelligence committee, when, as a member of congress, i learned about president obama's dual programs that he had begun really to overthrow the regime of syria and being willing to through the c. i a is a timber sycamore program that has now been made public of working with an army and equipping all kinda in an effort to overthrow that regime starting at another regime change or in the middle east. today we have and is list extremist who is now in charge of syria, as i said, who danced on the streets to celebrate the $911.00 attack who ruled over it live with an is the most extremist governance. and who has already begun to persecute and kill and arrest religious minorities, lake christians in syria, tulsa gavin's job as director of national intelligence will be to provide president trump with a daily briefing,

showing him what's going on in the world. and because housing gabbert is someone who has a very different understanding of world events than us, mainstream media, this is leading many to be helpful that perhaps u. s. foreign policy could shift. however, it tells the gabbert certainly has harsh critics. the fact that she was confirmed with a close vote, as many wondering what could come next for the pentagon, for the intelligence community and for the united states and its dealings around the world is there help for a new day of non intervention is i'm and peace fail mauppin new york now on our head of intern governmental affairs for the us trade representative agency steve gil told us the former democratic congress moments position on american aid. the cab has proven to be correct as well, both for her and for many of us who've been been you know, streaming that we need to look at the reality of what's happening on the battlefield. look at the reality of, of,

of what you brain has done to their own people who have done to the folks in, in those on best region for the last decade. those of us who were saying those things like tulsa, like me, and others, were streamed for being russian spies and russian advocates in and in the pockets of food. and now the truth is coming out to, you know, again you've got to exist, you've got the opposite western europe saying, yeah, that's all, all true. again, one of those great conspiracy series they've been proven right in the afternoon as again a lot of people. oh, apologies. to her, she's nothing given, you know, when the new york times the washington post, cnn that, you know, with the, the best of headlines done the years. in fact, to the extent that they're saying that she could be a threats at to, to the us going forward. now that she has national security. is she going to be under like more scrutiny than we've ever seen before? i think unfortunately for those critics, she represents the trump world view,

the heads of the world view and the world view that the trumpet administration is bringing in. so while she was at odds with was defined in his team were doing which was failed international policy on every 5. whether it was that disastrous withdrawal from afghanistan with a, we're learning more about the, the funds that were paid to 100, to obtain the benefits from divided ministration. every thing we're learning about the failed international policies and the by the administration are now being swept aside in this new truck border. and i think again, there may be critics, but the world view is going to overtake the criticism, particularly in reality, becomes more apparent. just like in the middle east, look and see hostages being released. look at these, your people like photo and russia being released and a bit going, god being released, the rice of trump is making progress. the people thought was, was impossible to stay with us here on our, to international and back with much more news and just about half an hour. i'll see

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