lost on size, it stands out the cause, although it came late in the struggle through the and see he played a critical role is important to remind ourselves that is the n c or the african national congress was created in 1900 on of one of the oldest freedom fighting movements, enough with the, with the great size, just fix the guys, soccer said man, and of cause of buttons to monday la came in late on the seasons of the individual who in the cottage zoom to join. the struggle was worked at sea food and when he joined the struggle at that time, the output, the movement was, is very high. you would remember during that period in 1948 of the wired war 2. that is when hendrick, 5 foot, i came up with the whole idea of separate development,

which was then characterized as up of date on which was declared by the u. n. as a crime against humanity. and the issue that arose in the very early days of this struggle, particularly in the 1906, is what the deal logical orientation of the african national congress in the 196 is 50, is coming up to the 6 to the how those who took the view that then see was not a radical enough, and that is why in 1960 a robot among the least as a book with is then less then see on from the find out for going to congress. but monday and go vending back key and of course have a good customer, ida, and uh, what this is sulu remained in the office with the national congress. the question then i rose. are we going to eliminate the appetite regime through the

struggle we are going to do it through agitation. i'm in the family said that i yeah. my, my gun d. i yeah. might lose that king junior saying non violence, but i, i'm not a violent man, but um, not a pacifist. when the person to choose us to use the fist. i have to really use my feast. and it is on the buck of that argument that on the west is a way, was then from which, nelson mandela, let me go on the west is we're meeting this theater of the nation. we'd became the leading of the african national congress and monday and i was legacy begins to emerge in a very unique way. at that particular time. when he leaves glucagon, the west is away and they begin to a tough up tide installations within the country that we know of south africa. and

ultimately they address that. they have quite a number of them. but the most famous that address that at that time is notes on monday lines of good funding. back he made a customer ida, and was this is sulu and one of the biggest trials that ever took place in south africa is very boring. the trial, that is when monday last funds are in his defense, he is shows the statement you speak for 3 hours. any defense on issue is the statement at the end of it that this is the cost for which i am prepared to die. that is this franco. i gaze up at tide. he took the view, that the opposite side must be destroyed, and that we must have a south africa well or equal a south africa,

where there is no bunny to the nice vision. and we will remember at that time, is that the opposite side regime of, uh, 5 foot. then of course there is uh, june 1st. uh then there is a both uh then that is the pluck have already started recruiting some blacks and they are bun denies in the country where they are creating all the claims. we. 3 blocks would leave the old reggie having people who uh, 5th column is to are frank to decide belie this drug. and it is in this regard therefore that monday light is blinking on say, we want to create the south africa. we're really enjoy. oh, i'm in roads a south africa where we'd be equal a south africa where everybody's vote is going to have meaning that ivonya file history now tells us that the british was very involved. and in fact,

the elements within the british government who took the view is that, or that ivonya, individuals who have been tried should be executed, but sense prevails on it is declared that they will subs for life. that is all they are then taken to robin island. and when one visits through open island, you will see the kind of punishment that they went through, but typically during the id, days. and monday allows legacy remains because it becomes iconic of the single person who is ensuring that the upside regime is kept on ship, but is presence in j also mx and my focal point, a focal point in the sense that while they have go funding, becky, they have sue in j, they have medical said ada,

and of cause monday lives of but they are outside the out was so individuals who uh, maintaining the legacy. one of them is monday and as why we need money. because the monday she becomes iconic on when history is properly written, it must be said that if there is any single fuss and to ensure that the monday law legacy was maintained of the highest level, it is really much because the mondale was buttoned and abused. and punished in many ways and you only have to read a long walk of freedom by monday, like, and stuff to appreciate the reward that we anybody gives them and they're paid. of course they also have the governing becky, who is the father of over the sub owned baking. tablo is outside of the 5 bits on top of cost, also participates in the struggle at that time. and of course, in the case of work, this is to the wifi, but teen us is pseudo is also out on the young built. at that time, lindy,

we just who is also out of time because the router was so people put a thing on the outside. the young people who are continuing to monday live to see i do see many of them. oh, outside of the of, of south africa, or the tumble is the clinic to say show, i'm busted of the africa, not sure. union. and they play a big role in ensuring that the story of those in their open island is kept alive. it is instructive that the negotiations, beginning honest while nelson mandela is in prison and is identified as the lead and all the ad does also accept that is the lead, even when the item present on the of costs. there is evidence to show the before he was released, the many meetings that were held at that time with a view to finding

a pathway for peaceful, the destruction of the appetite regime. there was difficult individuals such as pip boss, who was a, died in the war roost who took the view that the black man should never get the vote who took the view that the land that had been taken cannot be done. then of course that there was the tongue tongue, but as john voss john foster was so became the prime minister of the nation of his property. but things begin to so i looked through with frederick at the clock. and that is where you now begin to see the monday law is that people don't talk about it as frequently as they should the monday night, except outside of the arena. he's in prison and he is already claudio, graphing how all this is going to happen. he's ensuring the double is doing is diplomacy estoppel is with the good that c double is with the cost true. double

is with meeting. think of such as the, at a double is with the got one to double ease with in oklahoma. double is talking to all these fellows stop, boys with god. the shipping is a movement, a live, and ensuring that people are trained in on the list is where they also young people who are a photo of someone there that some of whom die like doing but would say who dies inputs on. and many of the sort of one of my long who also dies and through the activity. you know that through the conversations of nelson mandela, that's how we get it then creates us cool for then see sullivan. i'm along with school, which was in the middle girl in times and yeah, so the negotiations go on. the one there lies very impatient

because the why so you are dealing with in south africa and not you. a typical learning is who you will tell to go to brief and you will tell to go to friends used to go to portugal. they are saying this is our lot and we have going nowhere. how are you going to deal with them? because they own almost 80 percent of them on the indians, also own own, almost 10 percent of the land. they also come only have a short time. tide is how monday and then pick the view that what we need to do is to give meaning to what is cool. my said c, p fund, the political kingdom and the rest will come. and it is to that that he says, let's as remove the appetite resume 1st. once we remove the appetite regime and we have the vote on via in power, that is when we would begin to talk about line. i do see the negotiations at the

time when he takes young people. he is quite aware that in, as i've said, that they have been not the people of people. so just curious on people's side just sitting there. i'm a pause to go through the cosign to trade union. i involved in some way and he, they are full walks with them. that's the one below to 2 ways also active from the church, as in did is a lot woodstock with carla and they are walking together and ultimately the negotiations that lead to the constitution, the temporary constitution and ultimately is the democratic elections in 1994, and this is all we then define monday and that it was very easy and i'm informed that the wives were prepared to destroy south africa. but the total are these audience that when you are fighting with the person who holds on at which you

want, you must be sure that he does not drop the ed, as you must be sure that to persuade him to put the head down. and that is what the monday let did, and that's, i think is the justification for he's winning the nobel prize. that when the country was cross the roads, when the country would have destroyed, he knew when to give in. and when to retreat on when to advise, and that is the latest you that you cannot deny him nothing but to be recognized that you must have an army of young people who are going to walk with you. and in that regard, you created on the i'm the of young people and that i'm, you've young people use what you've seen. people like doubling becky, people like sitting around my paws. if people i don't use this to wiley people, i have cruise, tiny, and the younger ones such as lindsey wishes to these people that came from the mondale. and he knew when to leave office. monday law would have died in office.

but he said no, at my age, it is on fear for me to continue the youngest south african and it goes south. that's what comes i'm going to own in my more i really don't call me when i need you to call you on the thing he knew his friends. if told the american don't to was my friends for me. well, why you when we were a fight? that's the, that's the was there for us. well, why you, when we were fighting? yes, the effect was there for us. well, why you, when we are 5 to fidel castro was there for us? don't choose for a friend or friend for us. and i remember him saying this in the united states of america telling the united states of america you uh, one of the was the country is one of the woman does into was he went on to tell the, is it not true? that in fact, when japan was retreating on our friends,

you use the optim bone in hiroshima and nagasaki. not to destroy the upon only, but also to tell of the soviet union. if you don't say if you play with us, this is what is going to happen. we do cottage and t family said, when i say one is coverages, i do not mean that he has no fear or human beings fear. but cottage is our ability to conquer fear. i sing when we remember monday law, we remember that, but there is one out funding question. the last colonial question. the question of done. i see many people blaming monday last day. but the non question was not resolved. the non question is, walk in progress, and i believe the younger generation of south africa, the younger generation of freedom fighters, such as my friend judy,

has settled my landmark. these are the individuals that must now engage in that fight to ensure that the land question on the economic situation of south africa's block the south african is restored monday law builders to the foundation. it is a firm foundation. it is the duty of the younger generation to now build the wars in the knowledge that these fight against evil is a fight which is followed by generations now some 40 saw so monday law was a great man, a great south african, a great african, and a great human being and didn't put him in, but funded by persons of goodwill. thank you very much. as we continue our discussions, let us up a short break and we've come back to continue these very significant conversations . if only to ensure that we.