co mama cuz that's an answer. there's a video of the interesting question, then not to repeat it, western month or all, but no negotiation of i to crane with taught ukraine, gets the trump treatments as the american and russian presidents that professionally discussed ending that conflict face to face between the 2 leaders is in the work to, with saudi arabia being looted, posit mutually suitable location. while for it has never been a promise to your brain that is part of a peace deal. they will be in nature. they don't box away from pledging ukraine's future lies with family alliance. now there's this 5 years of proclaiming the office a lot. politics is about sitting down to tool and find common ground. i'm very sad

that the reaction of the west shows that there are practically no such people left . a wedding phase put in from coal couches, washington's european allies off guard with key of storage e u box is not really to be included. the cost to world is the wrong, the congress. this is marty international. hello and welcome to the news our it's the day after the phone call that's still in the world. donald trump and the kremlin have both shared and i'll speak reaction to the conversation between vladimir putin on the u. s. president. now the 19 minute call, reportedly initiated by trump, also laid the groundwork for a summit between the heads of states with location and date being worked on the talk mark the 1st communication in 3 years between any leaders of russia and american tom pashai,

the president trump even during the campaign and after the election before the inauguration was said that he was going to call the president. because what you see is a public event is only the tip of the iceberg of the head of states work day during the exchange mutual invitations. now, president trump has an active invitation to visit russia with you, and the president of russia has an active offer to visit the united states of america. and they've also agreed to quickly coordinate and hold a working meeting somewhere. and a 3rd countries in this meeting will take place according to the plan of the president's earlier as diplomat say, which and eventually exchange a visit, something this meeting is currently being coordinated at the working level by the assistance group is the final decision has not been made as to where it will take place. but saudi arabia was indeed mentioned with were yard was mentioned, boogie trump has a warm relationship with the crown prince. and the president of russia also has a very good relationship with him. these are well developed relations. people in general, the saudi arabia is our good partner, and therefore both russia and the united states diploma said that the location

really suits everyone. the decision has not yet been finalized. go says this will be done at the working level. and meanwhile, nato is seemingly back tracking on its pledge of what was said earlier, quote on the reversible path to membership for kids with its secretary general saying ukraine was actually never from the century to the lines following the end of that conflict with russia in washington against nature committed to future natural membership for the crate. but it has never be agreed that were not for peace thoughts which starts at the store towards ends anyway, and always and definitely with natural membership that has never been a great. it could be, but it has not for being a promise to you'll create that as part of a peace deal. a day will be in nature. well, that's been quite the past 24 hours and an r t corresponded on this to see if a log in that joins me now in the studio for more on that good to see you enough to numerous statements have been made since at news of the call at broke what,

what called the i am most. well, i think what we have to mention have fast is quite like, wanted to hear from what we've just heard from the nature chief. it was never agreed that the war in ukraine would end up with a native membership for ukraine. because year off to year, we've had on a numerous occasions, the complete opposite, especially from the full. my name's a chief stoughton band, the ukraine fusion. he's always said too crazy to life and may take less christmas that all us agree that there are trans future. it's in. they thought we all determined to make progress insulting this pulse its membership will be oh, that will be your friends ultimate security guarantee. it will ensure lost in peace and provide disability needed for reconstruction. press on savanski in our meeting, just law. you and i agree that all of these elements in nature promotes more

funding. morton military support more security agreements. more input operability constitutes a breach to nato membership. on the very strong package for ukraine, ukraine's future is in the nato. nate the is bigger and stronger. ukraine is closer to nathan membership than ever before. and as the brave ukraine continues to fight for the freedom, we stand by their sides. from what we say, only 2 political friends, the west of the collective west, seems not so united any more, despite names made to secretary general, trying to reassure everyone in the complete offset less specimens is, let's say a fast there wherever you have to make sure the talks are successful and it is important that you get to a peace deal. and at the same time, to make sure that's a potent on the stands that the rest is united. that ukraine is getting all the

support it needs to prevail. and that is very important, but also that he understands that you only computer stokes from b r, absolute to your short. that's the outcome can be sustained, city outcome is and during his lasting as well. let's pick off enough point because western nations have repeated the big 3rd that there are a united front in boxing. so then ski and backing key if can we say the same today? no, in the reality really seems like the u. s. the sideline in europe and ukraine, and he was actually has the right to worry about this because a, and the us is going to sign this, the sideline ukraine from any peace negotiations. because when trump was aust uh whether ukraine is going to have a such and in some upcoming negotiations, he actually avoided directly on storing the questions. much like probably nobody else phone was new

and interesting question. i think they have to make peace that people have been killed and i think they have to make peace. i showed that was not a good way to go into, and i think they have to make peace. that's what i think. i. on top of that, trump on his defense secretary actually said the native membership for ukraine is off the table on returning to 2014 bold as is something completely unrealistic. and this is something something that my district of maine who calls that's provided by the secretary of defense who's actually be made a statement today saying that he thinks is unlikely or impractical. i think probably that's true. i think long before president button, as i said, there's no way that allow that this has been going on for many, many years. and they've been saying that for a long time, that you crank and not go into nato then, and i'm, and i'm ok with that. i just want the word whether they are there or not. but i,

it certainly would seem to be that most people have said that, that is something that's not gonna work. well, i think pete said today that that's unlikely, right? we must start by recognizing that returning to ukraine's pre 2014 borders is an unrealistic objective or chasing this. illusionary goal will only prolong the war and cause more suffering. it certainly would seem to be unlikely. they took a lot of land and they fought for that land and they lost a lot of uh they lost a lot of soldiers, but it would just seem to be and i'm not, i'm not making an opinion on it, but i read a lot on it. and lot of people think that, that sort of likely i'm watson merging from kiev after they were informed afterwards. and we believe that's at trump put in would be speaking by phone. well, it's a landscape finally weighed in earlier today about the proposed talks between trump

and to 10. but once again, you know, slow scheme wouldn't be himself if he didn't ask for more money. but he also made a few more important the statements on the 1st one is the key of one accept any agreements without ukraine's participation in negotiations. and that actually means americans are going to die in some imaginary who of russian as halfway here assess would you give us any bilateral talks about ukrainian if i'm not talking about other topic, any bilateral talks about ukraine without us as we will not accept it, as i said yesterday, when we talked with the minister for me, i told him that, you know, what are your american brigades, which are they nato troops. they are located in europe. and if there is a invasion, it will be fast. and so your military were fired for this. i told him that they have to save the lives of the people way because there are around, i don't know, there are 100000 americans in europe. they're going to fight and not everyone will survive. you know,

all of this looks like something russia could actually walk with, despite the previous washington's he is, um, uh, showing no interest on the us defense. secretary was even august if this dramatic shift at an american foreign policy would mean the trained kids. and he didn't think that he didn't see, sorry, and he didn't seem to think so as to elizabeth. mm hm. that's as well, that's your language. not mine. certainly not a betrayal. but as i said to our allies yesterday, we recognize the incredible commitment that has been made over many years and no country as it president trump has pointed out, has very large or commitment to the ukrainian mission in the united states of america, north of $300000000000.00. so the united states has invested in stabilizing those

front lines. after the aggression of russia, there is no betrayal there. there is a recognition that the whole world in the united states has invested in interested in peace, a negotiated piece. so from all of this we can see some really dramatic fundamental changes taking place. something easy when you crane on not too happy about our t correspondents. i'm a see a lot in that taking us through all that a lot of developments as well. thank you. at, let's delve into some of the points that nasty was raising there in indeed, over the past 24 hours, we have been seeing all of the pleasure. when we see in our screens, mr. option read tons a at journalists, that host, i'll be going underground, debate, and then allow us to show an option thanks for your time. europe and politicians. this seems to be, you know, that like the kid who got, who was invited to the party, didn't arrive under scrambling. they get involved in,

in some way. it appears. what role do you think brussels i'm and the kids is going to play in the talks. yeah, what role really i made today is the day nato died. perhaps that won't have to be up for discussion when the negotiations begin, because we normally think that potentially better say that the natives a termination should be a prerequisite for any negotiation. i'll get behind. i'm happy because going on the ground is back on the x, the all the golf going technocrat platform times of russia to do with our x and twitter as well. but obviously in the countries aligned with washington, we have to live. we only have the law just so he learned muska besides jacob, donald trump, it's um, it's an amazing day, especially for so cool, mainstream media in nature, countries it'd be tend to be 9 non stop for 2 years. it's a tragic day as well as we remember, all of the victims of these nato policies,

the nature of that despicable organization that destroyed yugoslavia that send its planes to bomb libby to break up yugoslavia to, to, to create del, tied to, to destroy syria. and how can brussels even be speaking about anything when it comes to nato headquarters be tags that they're saying more or less to the journalists? because they, i don't know whether they're funded by usa. i'd be completely living in a fantasy world. and as you said, as v, as nato secretary asked them clears, there was an irreversible pot for ukraine to join nato. a now suddenly no, that was never on off or i should just say i'm hearing reports that the cooling for like just send them to keep the kellogg appointed as the ukraine envoy by donald trump is out of the picture once corruption and reach uh allegations about him surfaced as regards his daughter and usa id. i'm going to, i'm go got to the confirmation of that yet. but certainly russell's and kia have

the dictatorship in kiev. perfect. i mean, they have no, well, clearly, because this was an american proxy war on restaurant through ukraine. it lets me say is ukraine will not comply with any conditions agreed upon with all attempts participation. but to that very point, higher likely is key of to reject any possible piece fund proposed to it by the u. s. i. it's very difficult to understand what is coming from keyboards. it caught a key because it goes, we got to remember that in those major countries, particularly in your up that have tried to destroy all traces of russian culture. they pronounce it as positive campaign against the russian language, pronounced it. keith? well, i suppose what is the landscape could depend on, since he's not really going to be consulted. is britain my country, and i mean, so he has done with the prime minister this a racist as far as i'm concerned that was on

a panel with him at the as we now found out usa id funded the psalms, obviously the c panel program question time he, he was asked about the, the place where you'd get information that would arguably have informed the public . so if your, if that they were being given completely misleading information as to why, what happened in 2022 happened at school. and i can tell you that in the past few minutes, and i'm not joking because i mean this may make the audience love the chair of the liaison committee form and share with the nasal committee in the british parliament . that's an important committee that the question was the prime minister questions guess tom of that committee. he's just said that uh, i think i've got the direct quote to you, but some of the defense chiefs have been expressing this that we must be ready. he said, this impala meant in the past few hours, that we must be ready to fight a war with russia, if necessary, in order to be able to, to russia. and if we are to be in any position to guarantee the security of an

independent. and so renew crane off the whatever is agreed between president trump and president persian. and so they were seriously people in your place saying that about in britain, for instance, saying british troops should be sent. and they're going to destroy russia. because going to remember that kind of, uh, tele, terry and media are in your up, is saying, hey, could you enough to being given the chain chamberlain style a treatment is going to invade all of your up. now, the option i was the last couple of years i heard the words irreversible path to membership for ukraine in to naples. so many times, you know, i was going to sleep dreaming about it. know, today we've got the nato chief thing, hold on one to take a 2nd. there every step block. we never promised it to ukraine. only use the spot tracking display. just. it seems as if nato thinks, if we see it enough,

people will start to believe it a, it's a, it's, it's, i mean, it's funny in one sense the lies and the obvious lies. although i should say that is still banned in west and europe. and in those major countries, so they can see your show, your name, where you're clearly playing the clip earlier, a saying and reversible, and then no, there was never any problem is when a to a membership for ukraine. so the tragedy of all those tens of thousands, maybe a 1000000 ukrainian lives destroyed on these nato lives, allies and them to achieve what must be done, seduce is a reckon as the yorba leads must reconcile the allies that lead to this. but it will take time, you know, because it seems so much american funding of this propaganda ever since. the operation, claudio, and the crime dest time, and even during ca, cuts out programs to destroy any kind of an idea that there are different ways

to see the world. it's, it'll take time for less than your pin nations, to fully understand how that will exist. how we do, what led to the world we live in exist. i'm what the world we're about to and have it in the future is whereas the united states, it seems the people of the united states certainly seem to understand that if they don't understand the vagaries of the made them to victoria newly into all the rest of it understand what business do we have in that region? a tool. and it certainly looks like from what donald trump is saying that those regions that have been taken back into the russian control then on going back into some sort of corrupt ukrainian. nazi run the situation in the future as part of any negotiation that happens in the next few months. time is of the essence publicly late. so on europe say we're united on this front,

we're going to keep packing kids. but behind the scenes option, are they, are they quite counting the cost of what the us is doing now? because it's going to go into the british tax payers and, and other people paying their, their dues across your business. if somebody is going to have to keep funding ukraine, who is it? yeah, i mean, if you don't have the latest statistics on homelessness across the or a p and union as b tags that landed there in munich, where he talked about the 5 percent number a game. i don't think in fan this, trump is really putting his foot down, arguably enough to represent the american people over the 5 percent. but certainly these european countries are actively talking about 5 percent of g d p to nature because that's what trump is demanding. and those countries kind of food, they just kind of avoided so elite so that out of touch with the populations

they're hated. if you look at the poll numbers and macro off shelves of the rest of them, a guess tom or in britain, if you look at them all. and i've been going to really push it because they'll be complete, civil disobedience in the streets of paris when at the end of the i loved them. if they start to take away that. so to me, your social programs that hardly help enough that era, i believe populations, it is a start to transfer that full into paying american military contract is like mayfield lucky martin. and the rest to fulfill this 5 percentage you to be on vacation to the new native view, a nature of where the united states says you're on your own in your area or of the world. course. there is a, provides a tool this show months to go to war on china. and that will no doubt be a part of the negotiations with boots and directly. what can we just touch enough to option? what, while we mentioned that because p takes it said that washington would prioritize

the pacific region over europe just to just a few hours a go. how does that then translate to to other regions of the world? because this is a developing situation in, in the pacific. so if you're going to have your resources there, what does it do to ukraine? what does it do to guys and what does it do to other areas? uh yeah, i think uh what one element of uh, what's happening in the past 24 hours 48 hours. is that the put in talking points? oh yeah. just beside including talking points, we have an interview on monday's show with a c, i a veteran from a c, i a directory, very angry interview where he's defending usa id and he just goes to your talking coach and talking points. well now those booting talking points are the establishment talking points, right? you can't tell people, they are the russian talking points that they all of the reality we live. and if anyone is going to take the food in the tools and points further and access the defense secretary, i'm trump 9 is the national security advisor. um issue of course 9 quotes are going

to have to understand this. mean, if there is now a closeness between badging and moscow like that never has been before. one of the effects as well as the effects of the 100000 hundreds of thousands killed by this ridiculous pulling nature policy. one of the effects as being used to make the bricks, nations closer and a new world possible. it's time for the trump wise as to understand that no mix only in imagination is splitting up most coming. badging is, has now it's too late. the end of us input is in front of us that you should also be talking on here uh, sparring partners, john bolton, and also democrat, ottam shifts are accusing trumpet between us interest and even speaking at to vladimir putin. hide you for see this. transpiring in the us, this, this resistance to, to any kind of piece upon any kind of talks,

will that gain momentum or will it just be slow? i'm done by then you administration? yeah. john bolton with what 1st national security advisor of trump. the former one is locked in security clearance lost all sorts of clearance. now, said the kremlin where the ball grab the both of them to stand on the propaganda network, cnn which no one watches. so maybe that's what i have to say here already. so obviously they're not listen to anymore. and it's about time that the, the newly confirmed by the senate director of national intelligence, lieutenant colonel, chose a guy that gets a hold of that intelligence stands providing it to people in the why doesn't the government so that the rubbish and the dangerous rubbish that has been spoken about before from those that in our detractors of the new digital and perhaps digital and it's important that they never listen to a game. it's still early days though, at least the neo nazis avoiding switzerland does not being posed as

a venue for the food and trump dogs. and of course, brooding will have to drive a hard bargain. nevertheless, there are people like the national security advisor. mike will be tags at the less a to a lesser extent. certainly have mike mike rubio, completely obsessive pro neo nazi secretary of state. he has been at least of the past few years. uh, its better be clear who did made a medicate clear to trump that the piece negotiation the treatment assigned is going to be one way worse for a key of way was for nato nations in europe. then have a, was separated by the disgraced former british department as far as johnson, when the deal was done in turkey. that could have saved so many lives in ukraine. the last option is good to see us being too long. auction ra tons, a journalist, and host of going underground i bought firing on all cylinders on x. a pleasure sir, is now described as a, quote,

direct and warm conversation. nicole court european officials completely off guard ukraine's u allies. how they should a joint declaration, demanding a seat to opt into coal shading table in future p starting adding up support for a key. it will continue on till an agreement is reached. but as we were speaking with option, they're not. all leaders are on the same page, a president trump, at least called zelinski, after a long phone conversation with president putin and let him know what to expect. for example, something is unimaginable as democratic elections. nobody is calling us to the you, the you will have to quickly wake up from the military madness and realize that it must be sovereign in opinions and attitudes to survive. this declaration is a sad testament of bad brazilian leadership. while president trump and president putin negotiate on peace, e u officials issue worthless statements, you can't request a seat at the negotiating table. you have to earn it through strength, good leadership and smart diplomacy,

the position of brussels to support killing as long as it takes is morally and politically unacceptable. little or bottom there is talking about a statement put out by several european for ministers assisting the ukraine. and you must be at the table for any peace talks. yeah, there at the table. all right, the key, the table along with ukraine. and while they're busy playing with things like full moon animals and big words, like how they're going to quote, enhance their support for ukraine, which usually means more people dying to successfully be russia on the battlefield . like they're running some kind of status. the gaming league, it turns out that russia and the u. s. o trump and pretend we're actually having a personal conversation, as trump said yesterday, announcing the start of immediate negotiations for peace. and now the e. u is acting like it's just been done by uncle sam who's committing the adding insult with hanging around with its acts. if there is agreements made behind our backs between simply not torque, because you need for any kind of dean,

any kind of agreement, you need europeans to implement this the you need the ukrainians to implement this state. yeah, you can't break up with me. you need me, that sounds not crazy at all. and you even have the german defense industry yelling from the katy table over to the at all table trying to tell trump and food and how they should be conducting negotiations. now the dollars using this is obviously it's on fortunate and i say this truthfully, the trump administration had already made public admissions to put them before negotiations. i've even, but gone on from my point of view, it would have been better to talk about ukraine's possible nato membership or the countries lots of territory only at the negotiating table and not take it off the table beforehand. sounds like your opinion leaders are currently experiencing all 5 states of grief at once. well, frantically refreshing your inboxes to see if maybe the u. s. or russia have noticed their total meltdowns and maybe slid into their gm's and not just taking it as a confirmation that ghosting them entirely was maybe the best way to handle the situation

when they're already sounding like they're on the verge of throwing every dish in the cupboard straight across the room, europe has to be part of these negotiations. it's not the question at all. otherwise, this space will not be a long lasting this piece will not be the piece we would like to see in my message . these discussions will be that they can be no negotiation about ukraine without you price. our position is that to ukraine. if he chooses to negotiate should be negotiating from a position of strength and sweetness, quote, committed to make sure that you create it has to have the ability. so your p and ministers and delegations had been meeting here in paris earlier this week for what they thought was very important strategy session only to realize that they were basically just holding the equivalent of a giant circle jerk corporate team building exercise here is you frames for administer your seats, 60 roll,

ensure and just and comprehensive almost and fees for your security and security. the reasonable, basically at this point from seas your as an atm, puts in and sees your as background noise and they're already picking out the tape . busy settings for their piece talks while you're is left standing outside that the ip a room, begging the bouncer to check the list again while they stand there trying to deal with your brains, toddler tantrum. rachel marcenough, the destruction we by nature was bombing campaign on yugoslavia. watson just consigned to those 78 days and 1999. the aftermath has been definitely 2 of our documentary team lead side next, the nato uranium crisis. the

my fellow americans today are on forces joined our nato allies in air strikes against the serbian forces. the excess or try what could you give it to see that your son sent him a pass since the my you over to somebody the field settling that i do the.