and 3 is one of the woman does in the was he went on to tell the, is it not true that in fact, when japan was retreating on our friends, you use the optim bone in hiroshima and nagasaki. not to destroy the upon only, but also to tell the soviet union if you don't say if you play with us, this is what is going to happen. we do cottage and t family said, when i say one is coverages, i do not mean that he has no fear or human beings fear. but the cottage is our ability to conk garcia. and i think when we remember monday law, we remember that, but there is one out funding question. the last colonial question. the question of done, i see many people blaming monday last day. but the non question was not resolved. not the question is, walk in progress, and i believe the younger generation of south africa,

the younger generation of freedom fighters, such as my friend judy, has settled my landmark. these are the individuals that must now engage in that fight to ensure that the land question on the economic situation of south africa's black south african is restored monday law billers to the foundation. it is a firm foundation. it is the duty of the younger generation to now build that was in the knowledge that these fight against evil is a fight which is followed by generations now. some already saw. so monday law was a great man, a great south african, a breakdown for 10. and a great human being, i didn't remember fondly by persons of goodwill. so thank you very much. as we continue our discussions, let us up a short break and we come back to continue this very significant conversations. if

only to ensure that we remember that africa needs to be sub c and a short while the civil war claimed and ruined the lines of tens of thousands. but it was the hague tribunal, with delta finishing flow to the subs. less on the expand on. yeah, it was that i will talk to him with all of that will cause of the curious, i mean them was that the rest of your stuff or some which in the funded any last minute i'm i guess i need okay up on these you that's you so me who black the studio because of the throwing in eco so tired out table, i'll caution built around what sort of on team so so this would be

a vision to for something to bit jamie stuff. as i've done this for the bus, they have to think of any pissed us as i so this will not quit, only needs to cover the problem. first find out is with some of the, the i am theater removing but here in the center of the city of nairobi in the republic of can you continue with our conversations about the continent of africa today? we fault us on that debt question and is always important to remind ourselves that even as we talk about africa,

she is divided into $5400.00 is each of which has that for the sum, which is informed by a colonizer, as we have on the 100, the former colonies of friends in west africa and in central africa. and when you talk about them, we must remember that in 1900 on 50 a when those colonies was devoted yes or no. during the administration of shelves, the god, some of them agreed to remain within the french c a. with the consequence that the quantum is controlled from buddy with the consequence that the gardens is such as see a fair wrong for west africa and central africa controlled from buddy. that the tradition in obtaining debts is also govern from ferry.

on the one hand, there was a former british corner needs to be found in west africa side does have gone uh, nigeria, on saturday all on that. these countries i was so well gone, found in east africa countries. not just daniel uganda, tons on the, as on the, on my law we with why controlled by the british on which, upon regaining independence. organize themselves around what is called the commonwealth of independent nation. which is a neo colonial body, controlled by the british from london. and of cause the french have a lot of friends before me. we also have the former portuguese colony, the portuguese corner. it is because of the nature on demand and with video game day independence. there is not so much control from lisbon, but there is also

a sense and with the list, one government does have some leverage in a number of countries. and of course, the, as the new and trends of the colonial project, the, and from the side of the chinese. yeah. and from the sides of the united states of america on the rockies. so that africa today finds us off in a space. whereas she is a heavily in debt, but let us is device target co concepts. so these inductive ness went off with on countries that he gained independence. many of them was colonial countries or indeed many, well, one of them was put on your countries except for diabetes and help you on the economic. i'll get texture of this countries was actually designed to benefit the colonial powers, the institutions in the bronx, except that they cannot accept walk control from outside. and many of those who are

in the struggle for independence. what made the problem is that the countries that they, i didn't edited what bank do for us 5 economically and offered the education as an avenue for doing so, didn't make promises. they said we are going to provide you with electricity. we are going to provide you with the water. we are going to provide you with free health. we are going to provide you with their education. we are going to provide you with all these things. we are going to provide you with jobs. but no sooner had they settled in office, then they realize that there was not enough money to finance all these things unread, the to give you money. why the bretton woods institution i m s and was about ready to give you money. why institutions created on, under the commonwealth, read it to give you money?

why all these institutions the americans also okay. and do i prepared to give you money to buy lots really? this chinese game within for us for us to do are prepared to build you. i really ways to build you a roads to build you applets. they me, the idea is also okay. they are prepared to manage your ports and to do all these, the narrative set is that african countries now find themselves so heavily in debt to down to countries in africa, which are not invested at israel on both one or the are the african countries are laboring on the debt and they are not that truck. they cannot get into this the don't those in dependence because

a number of them for every tone, $10.00 that they make, they are spending $7.00 paying these bets. they therefore have to talk to the appropriate as they have to ensure that their population pay taxes, which unmanageable on this dropped is what is um b as them be some while has stopped about to not folks that date. december royal toes, african countries that dismissal guided really by african politicians that you can develop by borrowing money is, will do, or you cannot mix, done based on mile tells our genes that history has demonstrated that the deeper you'll get into debt, the more you lose you are in dependence on africa and also i called them a common. the news will depend on to independence. also tells

us that as long as we are in debt, we are going nowhere because we will be going around and around. always brain debts, which i also designed to be on payables. hi, june jones. in his book the bod, somebody's done. oh, so it tells us that as long as we borrow money from the bod, somebody tons, lots a day. sy looks really never know liberation. you know, not sho, african countries find themselves between the devil and the different blue seats. i remember 1987 the young to might. you see the sun carter when he attended the meeting of the organization of african unit, they did not just stop by and see up you is to the door. those who are willing to

listen to the time us come that we must not borrow. and we must refuse to pay the debts that we have, but because this must now be considered as it. but as of course, they did not listen to him. and the few years later, they killed the mice. the daughter sunk got but it did not stop there. a few years later is the president of a gun out who my vendor is, prep the non uh dunk while i do a pool for i don't. gave on i chronic speech in which you said, gone not be on date, but no sooner had the central leasing office. then he started borrowing, demonstrating to both the gun ends on the africans. that is never easy out to get out of the class just of the shy looks that they, i, man, the shy looks that odd that you will be in union. the shy looks will have on not get the job in the international economic relations where they want to keep africa

in up up to a state of inductive nets. and um, saying to my fellow africans until the day that we leave all ourselves of indebtedness. we are going nowhere else. we are going nowhere. because as the african saying goes, he who depends on the milk from above the call can only enjoy milk for so long. because sooner rather than later, the owner of the cow will take the call as they are con, people even gonna say he who sleeps on a board or not can never sleep soundly because sooner rather than later, the owner of the month will ticket. re africans caught this your buttering. i've been enjoying mills from border calls for too long. we have been sleeping on board

much for too long. the time is now for us through the leaves, though i solved from that indebtedness. and we can also do so by exploring thing on a minute rows. we can also do so by having a common card and 6 or we can also do so by having all agree i agree cards, jet develops. we can also do so by making sure that we are not in watching food. we can also do so by ensuring that we are not exporting all material, but toggling find new edition africa must relieve us of from the button on the display. very often that fitness, it is still true. that portal is the slave of the land. we must stop it, stop it. we will, as it is good advice for the moment. the tongue physicians continue

a pace. but for me, as to say bye bye, and then noted that we've come again to continue with the conversation about the mazda continent of africa, the if you think about russia, what does your mind picture the landscapes open up before your eyes? the last one does, can you imagine the fetus, gods dodge the journey? the, the, you ready to come along?

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