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the, the, this ours headline story donald from brookfield us and russian representatives are too old, talks in munich just hours from now with a view to ending the you print and also ahead on the pro brown. i believe that's the reason the word started because bite went out and said that they could join nato, and he should have said that as soon as he sent that, i sent you know what, you're gonna have a war. and now when i was right about the american presidents also appears to allege that his predecessor, june 5, there's significant responsibility for the blood shed in you pray. with this sounds that kids could join nato proposal to moscow repeatedly warned with threatened national security for it has not for being a promise to ukraine to this part of
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a peace deal or they will be entitled to north atlantic alliance itself box away from pledges on ukraine's future lines within the organization, just like yours or proclaiming the opposite and another apart and sign of going ties. russian computer approved robert alexander vinegar, reading from a us prison box in moscow. after almost 8 years, the broadcasting from our international use hub in moscow, this is our chief international good that your company donald trump, has confirmed a high level meeting on the ukraine conflict will take place between american and russian representatives of the munich security conference. later on friday,
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and another start comments concerning that, the u. s. president said the war began because of his predecessors stubs not ukraine could become part of the nato alliance. on that fighting, then became inevitable. says, i don't see any way that a country in russia's possession could allow them just in their possession, could allow them to join them. i don't see that happening. and long before president button, russia was very strong in the fact that i believe that's the reason the worst started. because bite went out and said that they could join nato. and he should have said that as soon as he said that i sent you know what, you're going to have a war. and now, and i was right about that. this is a war that would have never happened to by what price. last 24 hours, 36 hours or so the the office just keep on coming tickets through at what is making headlines now. i because they're changing by the hour, it seems strong statements that from trump,
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especially the ones that we've just heard about, the root causes of the conflict in ukraine and, you know, russia, we just have spoken about and raised concerns about nato's expansion. east was but it was a good note but, but it wasn't merely thing the trump is spoken about today. she also mentioned there was actually a bottomless fault to exclude russia from the g 8. and he also mentioned that he plans to hold a summit with the chinese and russian leaders on reducing the nuclear weapons. also know, you know, it's really, it's a pact with statements we've also heard from the native choose. and that was quite an ironic statement actually, that it was never agreed that the war in ukraine would end with you. prince native membership like to see egypt in washington again. nature committed to future natural membership uh for the crate. but it has never be agreed that right now for peace store. so which starts that the store towards ends anyway and always. and
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definitely be with natal membership that has never been a great. it's going to be, but it has never been a promised to ukraine. that is part of a peace deal. they will be and they don't know what's worthy i run and k is the year off to here. we've had the complete opposite to i recall from the salt of rushes, special metty to oppression. ukraine face the last actually himself signed need to membership application and from the former nato chief, we also had the new crime, future lice, and they all us agree that they are trans future. it's in they to we are determined to make progress insulting this pulse. membership will be, oh, it will be your friends, ultimate security guarantee. it will ensure lost in keys on provide disability needed for reconstruction, presence landscape. in our meetings, as long as you and i agree that all of these elements and they took them all more
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funding, morton military support, more security agreements. more interoperability constitutes a breach to nato membership on the very strong package for ukraine. ukraine's future is in the need to nate the is bigger and stronger. ukraine is closer to nathan membership of ever before. as the brave ukraine continues to fight for the freedom, we stand by their sides. you know, from what we're seeing currently on the chip electrical front uh things are shifting and actually made to chief during his speech was only admiring who to and i have had so many meetings with him between 201-2014 in my previous role and he is a strong negotiator and he is very unpredictable. but in the end, if we bumped to get to a piece deal, we need him there. we've seen him
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a major shift. it has to be said in north of, from the us when it comes to the conflict. it's often about in recent days. what's changed here? well, in reality, it will seems like the us, the side lining the easy when you crane and cube has the right to worry about this . because, and to worry the us is going to sidelines you creating a from any potential peace negotiations. because trump was actually off the earlier, if you crane is going to have any 4 foot and a indigo. sions you um . interesting question. i think they have to make peace that people have been killed and i think they have to make peace. i said that was not a good war to go into and i think they have to make peace. that's what i take on top of that. trump on his defense, that grocery actually said that need to membership for ukraine is of the table. i'm returning to 2014 food as is obviously unrealistic. and it's an interesting moment
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here because throughout the he is the us of the open. he said that then okay, to recognize crime as possible. russia and the state department website actually still states that washington does not recognize, cry, mass punch of the russian territory. now we're seeing the new administration stating the 2014 ford is all on realistic. and this strikes me t of maine who falls secretary defense has actually been made a statement as today's saying that he thinks is unlikely or impractical. i think probably that's true. i think long before president button, as i said, there's no way that allow that this has been going on for many, many years. and they've been saying that for a long time that ukraine can not go into nato then. and i'm, and i'm ok with that. i just want the word whether they are there or not, but i, it certainly would seem to be that most people have said that that is something that's not good.
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well, i think pete said today that that's unlikely, right? we must start by recognizing that returning to ukraine's pre 2014 borders is an unrealistic objective, is chasing this. illusionary goal will only prolong the war and cause more suffering. it certainly would seem to be unlikely. they took a lot of land and they fought for that land and they lost a lot of uh they lost a lot of soldiers, but it would just seem to be and i'm not, i'm not making an opinion on it, but i read a lot on it. and lot of people think that, that sort of likely it's nothing you've got the speed at which developments are a merge and you've got russia and you've got the united states pushing ahead with the peace negotiations through the teams coming together on friday in munich. and it appears the rest are playing, catch up, including ukraine. what's keeps reaction, be, well as a landscape earlier today is finally weighed in on the telephone conversation
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between trump completed. and he a said, well as the landscape wouldn't be himself, if he didn't ask for more money, and he even always questioned. and i'm going to quote, his question was chief of this phone. they tell you what it will. so he made all the strong statement saying that's key of would not accept any agreements without to craze. participation in negotiations, edit. americans are actually going to die and some sort of imagined reduction attack on here a. would you give us any bilateral talks about ukraine? i'm not talking about other topics, any bilateral talks about ukraine without us nest, we will not accept it. as i said yesterday, when we talked with the minister from and i told him that, you know, what are your american brigade, which are they nato troops? they are located in europe, and if there is a invasion, it will be fast. so your military will fight. i told him that they have to save the lives of the people, because there are around,
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i don't know. there are 100000 americans in europe. they're going to fight and not everyone will survive. so, you know, all of these developments actually look like something that russia could potentially walk with of 2 years of washington showing no interest. and the us defense secretary was given us if this dramatic change is in american foreign policy, which means of the train here. and this is why he had to say well, that's your language. not mine, certainly not of betrayal. but as i said to our allies yesterday, we recognize the incredible commitment that has been made over many years. and no country as the president trump has pointed out, has made a larger commitment to the ukrainian mission than the united states of america. north of $300000000000.00 to the united states has invested in stabilizing those
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front lines. after the aggression of russia, there is no betrayal there. there is a recognition that the whole world in the united states is invested in interested in peace, a negotiated piece. so, you know, from all of this we can see fundamental changes taking place and obviously something is you and ukraine and not too happy about well, i speak now to co director of the anti war international action center grouping star a flanders star. a lot of developments to hear your thoughts on can i just start with donald trump making his view of how the ukraine conflict started quite clear that to joe, by who he said his stomach, that ukraine could become a needle member, was the trigger. what effect will such an admission from the current american president have as well, there's certainly a big shift in the narrative. the real question is, can anyone trust donald trump?
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he is notorious and famous for the double cross. now of course, he'll blame the previous administration and completely cover his own role. when he was president, which was promises, it seemed things would, could work out. and then there was a cancellation of movements for chords in 2017. we've seen before. trump make promises engage in cox, and then suddenly a rapid cancellation souls. while there is a shift in the narrative, that would be important. it's important to recognize that ukraine is totally failed as a proxy for the us in their hopes to these stabilize russia and their hopes to break and dismember russia through sanctions that has not succeeded. so now there's a new reality that when we go forward, it is trump even intentional,
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or is he just trying to shift the cost of maintaining the war on to the european union? so those are the questions in my mind that come for maybe he also said that russian representatives will be present at the security conference in munich in the number of hours time. that is going to come, i imagine us a surprise to many, but if it is true is effectively the start of the long awaited peace process. well, certainly you can have a discussion about peace without the involvement of russia. i mean. ringback they, they've made every effort to do that for several years and have the u. s. and all the european powers and nato members, all of that talking to each other and always highlighting zalinski who, you know, is, is really so totally corrupt and in up. but that's been the scenario until now. so
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this is to include russia is just a how do you say this is a reality? your plans good. not succeeding? like with huge coil? there be a real opportunity for is this, and what are the costs of the trump also makes it clearly, once certain control over the welfare of the strain going forward. suddenly talking about the rear or minerals, all kinds of other things. so it's fair already thinking, well, if there's a negotiation, how big of shape costs, can they extract the file? i think we're at the blue stage 3 p. but the question for the world is tense and can you trust diplomas? donald trump had all russia, and this is the pastor of the, the double across the street, har intensive. do you expect contacts between russian representatives up the conference and the europeans to be given up?
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there's pretty much be no dialogue for the past 3 years as well. who's really pay the cost long, of course, with the people of ukraine, the people, russia, but the european countries, the imposition of sanctions on russia. cost the you far more then it costs the us. and that's, and there is a real effort to force even more of the cost of the war it's passed then going forward on to the european countries while maintaining the sanctions as much as they can, the cost of that on to the us. so we'll have to see there is a great consternation those because everyone knows when there is a shift in the narrative, then everything becomes unbalanced. well, you'll figure out who pays that makes it easy, then is it shut off as long as your hands, and we know that you trump for to promise to end the war in afghanistan day one of
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those lasted industries. it continued for 4 years. the 1st time at that time also promised if he was going to, you know, open that for us out of nato, that doesn't happen. and cut funding to nato instead increased it. so because we any time we should be cautious in my opinion as we go forward. but this may be a recognition of reality. us efforts to really bring down russia did not succeed and new opportunities for instead for russia opened up in other trade relations even as they cancelled. we'll see you. i just, yeah. famous statement he was going to turn the russian rouble into rubble in 2 weeks time. well, that's not what happened. so they face a new reality. i suppose the it mix the conversation kick started though,
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doesn't that it? like what he said about getting rush it back in the g 7 saying that it's, it's the g 8. is that a realistic possibility in the near future? well, i, i doubt it. the purpose of the g 7 was as a weapon against russia and china. it was a big imperialist countries. russia was part of it for a time, but they realized really they were like the main course of a group of the, the empires. uh and uh, you know, relations were cut, the pressure was thrown out and what was the g 8 was back to the g 7. they since continued in their efforts to exclude russia as they include russia. now it is because they see it as a possibility of using that time and that relationship as a weapon against china. it's always a plan for the next war and how to face and for others in
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a very dangerous game in the us imperialism on so many levels is coming down is the chain. and the only strategy they have for moving forward is more and more in constant for so that means even when they to a fees to plan more speaking to us from new york, sorry, i flanders co director of the, of the war international auction center. as always, thank you. thank you. described as a cool direct the warm you conversation. this week's putting trump phone call caught european officials completely off guard your brains, e u l. i subsequently issued a joint declaration, demanding a seat at the negotiating table. in future peace talks, i think that's a port for t of will continue until in agreements rich, but not all leaders in the block are on the same page. the president trump,
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at least called zelinski, after a long phone conversation with president putin and then let him know what to expect . for example, something is unimaginable as democratic elections. the you will have to quickly wake up from the military madness and realize that it must be sovereign in opinions and attitudes to survive. this declaration is a sad testament of bad brazilian leadership, while president trump and president putin negotiate on peace, e u officials issue worthless statements. you can't request a seat at the negotiating table. you have to earn it through strength, good leadership and smart diplomacy. the position of brussels to support killing as long as it takes is morally and politically unacceptable. look or bottom there is talking about a statement put out by several european foreign ministers in assisting the ukraine, and that you must be at the table for any peace talks. yeah, there at the table. all right, the key table along with you crane. and while they're busy playing with things like balloon animals and big words, like how they're going to quote,
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enhance their support for ukraine, which usually means more people dying to successfully be russia on the battlefield . like they're running some kind of status. the gaming league, it turns out that russia and the us, so trump and pretend we're actually having a personal conversation, as trump said yesterday, announcing the start of immediate negotiations for peace. and now the e. u is acting like it's just been done by uncle sam who's committing be adding insult with hanging around with its x. if there is, agreements may behind our backs between simply not torque because you need for any kind of dean, any kind of agreement, you need europeans to implement this the you need the ukrainians to implement this dave? yeah, you can't break up with me. you need me, that sounds not crazy at all. you even have the german defense minister yelling from the kidney table over to the adult table, trying to tell trump and food and how they should be conducting negotiations. now, the dawn is using. this is obviously, it's unfortunate, and i say this truthfully,
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the trump administration had already made public admissions to peruse. and before negotiations have even begun. from my point of view, it would have been better to talk about ukraine's possible nato membership or the country's loss of territory only at the negotiating table and not take it off the table beforehand. sounds like your opinion leaders are currently experiencing all 5 states of grief at once. well, frantically refreshing their inboxes to see if maybe the u. s. or russia have noticed their total meltdowns and maybe slid into their dams. and not just taking it as a confirmation that ghosting them entirely was maybe the best way to handle the situation when they're already sounding like they're on the verge of throwing every dish in the cupboard straight across the room. europe has to be part of these negotiations. it's not the question at all, otherwise this space will not be long lasting. this piece would not be the piece we would like to see in my message. these discussions will be that they can be no
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negotiation about ukraine without ukraine. our position is that to ukraine, if he chooses to negotiate, should be negotiating from a position of strength and sweetness, quote, committed to make sure that you create it has to have to be looked at. basically at this point from c's europe as an atm, food, tennessee, 0 as background noise. and they're already picking out the tables settings for their piece talks while europe is left standing outside that the ip room, begging the bouncer to check the list again while they stand there trying to deal with ukraine's toddler tantrum with the early signs. all the data on between moscow and washington have had an immediate impact on the markets. the russian stock exchange stores immediately after the call with the rouble also strengthening significantly, including against the us dollar economist on political commentator. i say how mercy is he expects both russian and global businesses to reap the benefits of thawing
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types. well 1st i expect um that, or the reason for this uh, uprising of the stock market and the roof. busy it could be that the russia will be back in the international market with the west. they already in the market with the brakes. the most important market also the future. but now they are returning in to the west because these structures that were behind the. busy are in ukraine and were fighting against donald trump and trying to prohibit that he gets into power again have lost and this is what they have to admit that me now. so now um business b. busy um, are very keen on getting back to russia and this is what i think is the reason behind this, this uprising. what do i expect? i expect in very short term that not only all the sanctions are going away, but the also that we will get to these trade union from the start to this other one
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which will be the biggest economic wealth program for hundreds of years coming. and i think this will now be developing, and america is probably trying to negotiate somehow how to partner in this uh, your asian project. they know there is russian citizen, alexander vick, freed from a us prison house, landed in law school after 8 years. mr. vick was arrested in 2017 in greece of the request of us on convicted of money laundering charges. using bitcoin initially denied the charges against him, calling himself a political prisoner before later agreeing to a plea. deal with us, prosecutors, 45 year old panic was exchange for a former american embassy stoffer in russia. mark fuko, who's already back stateside terminal. the russian parliamentary committee on
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international affairs mean that slootsky says the swap symbolizes all improvements and relations between the powers. a lot of the this is an important shift, not yet a tonic one, but an important one was, is towards more intensive communication between leaders, one of 2 largest nuclear powers, which i hope will never again be at ground 0 in their cooperation. it is what happened in the biden era should be an example. yeah, the, the artificially inflated conflicts and refrains, which is today, the laughter stronghold of nazi ideology has brought a world civilization closer towards the very destructive path. so you could have ended in a 3rd world war, in which there can be no windows. now the countdown begins, hooting is not only the leader of the modern day russian, you press the button is the new global majority of which has already formed countries of the global south. a latin america and africa is up at the bricks, countries in the country, some of the european continent words of it,
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as many of them may follow russia to talk about the priorities of a multi polar world where every country gets history, tradition, culture, religion, and national languages this will be a separate phone of development. opponent of strength over decision making severe within the new multi polar world architecture of the century is unipolar world order. it's really old. decisions are made in washington is a destructive system that led to an increase in global entropy and global confrontation towards the 3rd world war couple. it won't happen again. we are ready for negotiations on ukraine, but put on the terms that were already announced by potentially that is what we didn't have certification and liberation. your legislative framework. the blueprint has to be protected from elements of nazi ideology, as well as the militarization where your non align status and much more. and we're not moving away from this zalinski with his adequate actions directed against
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people against humanity board against his own population. absolutely have become cannon fodder for biden's team in their unhealthy and twisted game against russia has already shown what he is worth it. so 10 minutes of dialogue is enough for him to observe. but then we'll see what happens when the real negotiation process begins to europe. he's in a state of confusion and they didn't expect from it to when they did not expect that events would begin to return to common sense. but these are those who today, by, you know, show, should remain with that small group on that today continues to profess the destructive ideology of the unipolar world or those on the platform of their countries in western europe. understand that they have already lost these views, while many countries are returning to the original values of century old european civilization. take, for example, the work of the netherlands or some of occupant hungry product. or just a reminder,
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we're across a wide spectrum of social media channels, just put in the words r t and wherever you see about reading on black logo. if it's a followed by from the donald trump risk repeating jo. bible's disasters and gaza allowing genocide he returned to office claiming to be a peacemaker trumps of words and actions about gods that demonstrate the opposite. what donald trump does now will define his presidency and like the russian states, never as tight as one of the most sense community best ingles,
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all sense and up the progress be the one else calls question about this, even though we will bend in the european union the kremlin media mission, the state on the russia to day and split the ortiz full neck team and our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube tv services. for the question, did you see a request which is the the slow down most of
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which was buried without any owners. but in march 2006, tens of thousands of ordinary sobs came to pay their respects, the house and the funeral. it became known that 2 days before his death, the loss of age had managed to write and send a letter addressed to the russians. russians by appeal to old russians, residents of ukraine and been a roost, as well as those in the balkans who consider themselves russian. look to us and remember, they'll do the same to you when you do so nice and given to weakness. the west is a mad dog and change the 2 by 2 in the throat brothers. remember the fate of yugoslavia don't let that happen to you. the trial of the last president of yugoslavia was just one of hundreds, the hague tribunal, initiated against nearly all prominent simple.

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