hi the this ours headline story donald from brookfield us and russian representatives and our 2 own talks in munich just hours from now with a view to ending the you print and also ahead on the program. and i believe it goes by and went out and said that they could join nato. and he should have said that as soon as he sent that, i sent you know what, you're gonna have a war. and now when i was president also appears to a ledge that his predecessor, joe 5 errors, significant responsibility for the blood shed in you pray. with his sounds that could join nato proposal. moscow repeatedly worn with threatening national security

for it has never been a promise to you, came to this part of a peace deal. a day will be an age of the north atlantic alliance itself. fox away from pledges on ukraine's future lines within the organization was my years of proclaiming the opposite from one another, a power and sign of pointing ties. russian computer approved robert alexander vinegar, reading somebody us present in moscow. after almost 8 years, the broadcasting from our international use hub in moscow, this is our team in traditional to the your company. donald trump has confirmed a high level meeting on the ukraine conflict will take place between american and russia,

representatives of the munich security conference later on friday. and then another star comment concerning that, the u. s. president said the war began because of his predecessors stubs not ukraine could become part of the nato alliance. i'm not fighting, then became inevitable. i don't see any way that a country in russia's possession could allow them just in their possession, could allow them to join nato. don't see that happening. and long before president button, russia was very strong. and the fact that i believe that's the reason the worst started because bite and went out and said that they could join nato. and he should have said that as soon as he said that i sent you know what, you're going to have a war. and now, and i was right about that. this is a war that would have never happened of our appraisal. last 24 hours, 36 hours or so the, the office just keep on coming. take us through at what is making headlines now. i because they're changing by the hour, it seems strong statements that from trump,

especially the ones that we've just heard about, the root causes of the conflict in ukraine and, you know, russia, we did as a spoken about and raised concerns about nato's expansion. east was but it was a good note, but it wasn't merely thing the trump is spoken about today. she also mentioned there was actually a bottomless fault to exclude russia from the g 8. and he also mentioned that he plans to hold a summit with the chinese and russian leaders on reducing the nuclear weapons. also know, you know, it's really, it's a pact with statements we've also heard from the native cheese and that was quite an ironic statement. actually that it was never agreed that the war in ukraine would end with ukraine's native membership. like to see egypt in washington again, nature committed to future natural membership. uh for the crate, but it has never be agreed that right now for peace store support starts that the

still towards ends anywhere and always and definitely with natural membership that has never been a great. it's going to be. it has now for being a promise to you'll create that as part of a peace deal. they will be in a job. and you know, what's, where do i run and k is the year off to here. we've had the complete opposite. you might recall from the start of russia special metty to oppression ukraine. phase the last actually himself find, need to membership application and from the form and need to achieve. we also had the new crime, future lice, and they to finalize agree that they are trans future. it's in they to we are determined to make progress insulting this pulse its membership will be, oh, it will be your friends, ultimate security guarantee. it will ensure lost in peace on provide disability needed for reconstruction, prison savanski in our meetings as long as you and i agree that all of these

elements in nature promotes more funding, more military support, more security agreements. more info for ability constitutes a breach to nato membership on that. a very strong practice for ukraine. ukraine's future is in the need to nato is bigger and stronger. ukraine is closer to nathan membership than ever before. and as the brave ukraine continues to fight for the freedom, we stand by their sides. you know, from what we're seeing currently on the t up electrical front. things are shifting and actually made 2 chief during his speech was only admiring who 10 i have had many meetings with him between 201-2014 in my previous role. and he is a strong negotiator and he is free, unpredictable. but in the end, if you want to get to a piece deal, we need him there. nothing. we've seen

a major shift in our as if from the u. s. in the past was 36 hours when it comes at to the ukraine conflict. what's being said, well, in reality it will seems like for us to side lining the hue and ukraine and k of has the right to worry about this because, and to worry the us is going to sidelines you creating it from any potential nice negotiations. because trump was actually off the land, if you create is going to have a new full foot in negotiations. and interesting question. i think they have to make peace is that people are being killed and i think they have to make peace. i showed that was not a good war to go into and i think they have to make peace. that's what i take on top of that. trump on his defense, that grocery actually said that need to membership for ukraine is of the table. i'm returning to 2014 food as is obviously unrealistic. and it's an interesting moment

here because throughout the he is the us of the open. he said that then okay, to recognize crime as possible. russia and the state department website actually still states that washington does not recognize, cry, mass punch of the russian territory. now we're seeing the new administration stating the 2014 ford is all on realistic. and this was just this dr. suite c of main who falls secretary of defense who's actually be made a statement today saying that he thinks is unlikely or impractical. i think probably that's true. i think long before president button, as i said, there's no way that allow that this has been going on for many, many years. and they've been saying that for a long time that ukraine can not go into nato. that can, i'm and i'm ok with that. i just want the word whether they are there or not, but i, it certainly would seem to be that most people have said that that is something

that's not gonna work. well, i think page said today that that's unlikely, right? we must start by recognizing that returning to ukraine's pre 2014 borders is an unrealistic objective, is chasing this. illusionary goal will only prolong the war and cause more suffering. it certainly would seem to be unlikely. they took a lot of land and they fought for that land and they lost a lot of uh they lost a lot of soldiers, but it would just seem to be and i'm not, i'm not making an opinion on it, but i read a lot on it. and lot of people think that, that sort of likely semester, you've got the speed at which developments are a merge, and you've got russia and you've got the united states pushing ahead with the peace negotiations. the teams coming together on friday in munich, and it appears the rest are playing, catch up, including ukraine. what's key ads? reaction be? well as a landscape, la,

today has finally weighed in on the telephone conversation between trump completed . and he a said was the last, he wouldn't be himself if he didn't ask for more money. and he even almost questions. and i'm going to quote, his question was chief of this for nature is what it will. so he made all the strong statement saying that's key of would not accept any agreements without ukraine's participation in negotiations. edit. americans are actually going to die and some sort of imagined we russian attack on here a. would you give us any bilateral talks about ukraine? i'm not talking about other topics, any bilateral talks about ukraine without us. we will not accept it. as i said yesterday, when we talked with the minister and i told him that, you know, what are your american brigade, which are they, nato troops and they are located in europe. and if there is the invasion, it will be fast. and so your military will fight for this. i told him that they have to save the lives of the people because there are around, i don't know,

there are 100000 americans in europe. they're going to fight and not everyone will survive. so, you know, all of these developments actually look like something that russia could potentially walk with of 2 years of washington showing no interest and the us defense secretary was given aust, if this dramatic a change in american foreign policy, which means of the trained here and this is why he had to say well, that's your language. not mine, certainly not of betrayal. but as i said to our allies yesterday, we recognize the incredible commitment that has been made over many years. and no country, as a president, trump has pointed out, has made a larger commitment to the ukrainian mission than the united states of america, north of $300000000000.00. so the united states has invested in stabilizing those

front lines after the aggression of russia, there is no betrayal there. there is a recognition that the whole world in the united states is invested and interested in peace and negotiated peace. so, you know, from all of this we can see fundamental changes taking place and obviously something is you and ukraine and all to happy about well, i speak now to co director of the anti war international action center, grouping star a flanders. sorry. a lot of developments they hear your thoughts on can i just start with donald trump making his view of how the ukraine conflict started quite clear that to joe, by who he said his stomach, that ukraine could become a needle member, was the trigger. what effect will such an admission from the current, the american president out as well, there's certainly a big shift in the narrative. the real question is, can anyone trust donald trump?

he is notorious and famous for the double cross. now of course, he'll blame the previous administration and completely cover his own role. when he was president, which was promises, it seemed things we could work out. and then there was a cancellation of the minutes reports in 2017. we've seen before. this trump make promises engage in cox, and then suddenly a rapid cancellation sells. while there is a shift in the narrative, that would be important. it's important to recognize that ukraine is totally failed as a proxy for the us in their hopes to these stabilize russia. and their hopes to break and dismember russia through sanctions that has not succeeded. so now there's a new reality that we're where we go forward or is trump even intentional?

or is he just trying to shift the cost of maintaining the war onto the european union? so those are the questions in my mind that come for maybe he also said that russian representatives will be present at the security conference in munich in the number of hours time. that is going to come, i imagine us a surprise to many, but if it is true, is it effectively the start of the long awaited piece process? well, certainly you can have a discussion about peace without the involvement of russia. i mean. ringback they, they've made every effort to do that for several years and have the u. s. and all the european powers and nato members, all of that talking to each other and always highlighting zalinski who, you know, is, is really so totally corrupt and in up. but that's been the scenario until now. so

this is to include russia is just a right. how do you say this is the reality? your plans good. not succeeding? like with huge co there be a real opportunity for is this from what are the costs of the trump also makes it clearly one certain control over the welfare and restrain going forward. suddenly talking about where or minerals, all kinds of other things. so it's fair already thinking, well, if there's a negotiation, how big it should cost? can they extract nothing to fight? i think we're at a blue stage 3 p. but the question for the world is tense and can you trust diploma? donald trump and puddle russia and uses the pastor of the, the double across the street, har intensive, do you expect context between russian representatives of the conference and the europeans to be given up?

there's pretty much be no dialogue for the past 3 years as well. who's really pay the cost long, of course, with the people of ukraine. the people rush up, but the european countries, the imposition of sanctions on russia, cost the e u. far more then it costs the u. s. and that's, and there is a real effort to foist even more of the cost of the war it's past then going forward on to the european countries while maintaining the sanctions as much as they can, the cost of that on to the us. so we'll have to see there is a great consternation those because everyone knows when there is a shift in the narrative, then everything becomes unbalanced. well, you'll figure out who pays adding says we'll do then, is it shut off? as long as you have a new,

we know that you trump for to promise and the war in afghanistan day one of those last history. she continued for 4 years. the 1st time is that time also promise. if she was gonna, you know, open that for us, out of natal unit isn't half. and the funding to nato seems that increases. so because we need to in a we should be cautious in my opinion. so as we go forward, but this may be a recognition of reality. us efforts to really bring down russia did not succeed and new opportunities for instead for russia opened up in other trade relations even as they cancelled. we'll see you. i just, yeah. famous statement, he was going to turn the russian rouble into rubble in 2 weeks time. well, that's not what happened. so they say it's a new reality. i suppose the it mixed the conversation kick started though,

doesn't that it? like what he said about getting rush. it back in the g 7 saying that it's, it's the g 8. is that a realistic possibility in the near future? well i, i doubt it. the purpose of the g 7 was as a weapon against russia and china. it was a big imperialist countries. russia was part of it for a time, but they realized really they were like the main course of a group of the, the empires. and so, you know, relations were cut. the pressure was thrown out of what was the g 8 was back to the g 7. they since continued in their efforts to exclude russia as they include russia . now it is because they see it as a possibility of using that time. and that relationship as a weapon against china. it's always a plan for the next war and how to say,

until others in a very dangerous game in the us imperialism on so many levels is coming down is the chain. and the only strategy they have for moving forward is for more and constant for so that means even when they to a fees the plan, more speaking to us from new york, sorry, i flanders co director of the of the war international auction center. as always, thank you. thank you. described as a, quote direct the warm conversation. this week's putting trump phone call caught european officials completely off guard. you brings e u l. i subsequently issued a joint declaration, demanding a seat up in negotiating table. in future peace talks, i think that support for key of will continue until the new agreements reach. but not all leaders in the block are on the same page. the president trump,

at least called zelinski, after a long phone conversation with president putin and then let them know what to expect. for example, something is unimaginable as democratic elections. the you will have to quickly wake up from the military madness and realize that it must be sovereign in opinions and attitudes to survive. this declaration is a sad testament of bad brazilian leadership, while president trump and president putin negotiate on peace, e u officials issue worthless statements. you can't request a seat at the negotiating table. you have to earn it through strength, good leadership and smart diplomacy. the position of brussels to support killing as long as it takes is morally and politically unacceptable. look or bottom there is talking about a statement put up by several european for ministers assisting the ukraine, and that you must be at the table for any peace talks. yeah, there at the table. all right, the key, the table along with you crane. and while they're busy playing with things like balloon animals and big words, like how they're going to quote,

enhance their support for ukraine, which usually means more people dying to successfully be fresh on the battlefield. like they're running some kind of status. the gaming league. it turns out that russia and the us, so trump and pretend we're actually having a personal conversation, as trump said yesterday, announcing the start of immediate negotiations for peace. and now he was acting like it's just been done by uncle sam who's committing b, adding. and so of hanging around with its acts, if there is, agreements may behind our backs between simply not torque because you need for any kind of deal, any kind of agreement. you need europeans to implement this the you need the ukrainians to implement this state. yeah, you can't break up with me, you need me. that sounds not crazy at all. you even have the german defense minister yelling from the kitty table over to the at all table trying to tell trump and food and how they should be conducting negotiations. now the dawn is using, this is obviously, it's unfortunate, and i say this truthfully,

the trump administration had already made public admissions to peruse. and before negotiations have even begun. from my point of view, it would have been better to talk about ukraine's possible nato membership for the country's loss of territory only at the negotiating table and not take it off the table beforehand. sounds like your opinion leaders are currently experiencing all 5 states of grief at once. well, frantically refreshing their inbox, just to see if maybe the u. s. or russia have noticed their total meltdowns and maybe slid into their gm's and not just taking it as a confirmation that ghosting them entirely was maybe the best way to handle the situation when they're already sounding like they're on the verge of throwing every dish in the cupboard straight across the room, europe has to be part of these negotiations. it's not the question at all. otherwise, this space will not be a long lasting this piece will not be the piece we would like to see in my message . these discussions will be that they can be no negotiation about ukraine without

ukraine. our position is that to ukraine. if he chooses to negotiate should be negotiating from a position of strength and sweetness, quote, committed to make sure that you create a test that they'd be looking basically at this point from c 0 as an atm foods in c 0 as background noise. and they're already picking out the tables settings for their piece talks while europe is left standing outside that the ip room, begging the bouncer to check the list again. while they stand there, trying to deal with ukraine's toddler tantrum will be early signs. all the data on between moscow and washington have had an immediate impact on the markets. the russian stock exchange stores immediately after the call with the rouble also strengthening significantly including against the us dollar economist on political commentator, i k hummer, says he expects both russian and global businesses to reap the benefits of thawing

tides as well. first i expect um events or the reason for this uh, uprising off the stock market and the roof. busy could be that the russia will be back in the international market with the west. they already in the market with the brakes. the most important market also the future. but now they are returning in to the west because these structures that were behind the. busy were in ukraine and were fighting against donald trump and trying to prohibit that he gets into power again, have lost, and this is what they have to admit that me now. so now the business people are very keen on getting back to russia and this is what i think is the reason behind this, this uprising. what do i expect? i expect in very short term that. busy only all the sanctions are going away,

but the also that we will get to these trade union from the start to this other one which will be the biggest economic wealth program for hundreds of years coming. and i think this will now be developing and america is. busy really trying to negotiate somehow how to partner in this, your age and project and then other moves. russian citizens, alexander vick, freed from a u. s. prison house landed in law school after 8 years. mister vick was arrested in 2017 in greece of the requests of us and convicted of money laundering charges. using bitcoin initially denied the charges against him, calling himself a political prisoner before later agreeing to a plea. deal with us, prosecutors, 45 year old bennett was exchange for a former american embassy stauffer in russia. mark fuko, who was already back stateside terminal,

the russian parliamentary committee on international for as needed. slootsky saves the swap, symbolizes all improvement and relations between the powers. a lot if the this is an important shift, not yet a tonic one, but an important one was, is towards more intensive communications between leaders, one of 2 largest nuclear powers, which i hope will never again be at ground 0 in their cooperation of what happened in the biden era should be an example of the artificially inflate conflicts in your brains, which is today, the laughter stronghold of nazi id. ology has brought a world civilization closer towards the very destructive path. so you could have ended in a 3rd world war, in which there can be no windows. now the count down begins. hooting is not only the leader of the modern day russian, your press, the button is the new global majority of which has already formed countries of the global south, a latin america and africa, the bricks, countries in the country,

some of the ration content over to read as many of them, and they follow russia to talk about the priorities of a multiple, a world where every country, it's history, tradition of culture, religion and national languages. this will be a separate bone of development. opponent of strength over decision making severe within the new multi polar world architecture of the new century is unipolar world, or the old decisions are made in washington is a destructive system that led to an increase in global entropy and global confrontation to put towards the 3rd world war couple, it won't happen again. we are ready for negotiations on ukraine, but such on the terms that were already announced by potentially, that is the next, if a cation and liberation through our legislative framework, the brain has to be protected from elements of nazi ideology. and uploaded, as well as the militarization where your non align status and much more. and we're not moving away from this zalinski with his adequate actions directed against

people against humanity board against his own population. absolutely have become cannon fodder for biden's team in their unhealthy and twisted game against russia has already shown what he is worth it. so 10 minutes of dialogue is enough for him . but then we'll see what happens when the real negotiation process begins to europe. he's in a state of confusion and they didn't expect from it to a window, but they did not expect that events would begin to return to common sense. but these are those who today the by, you know, show, should remain with that small group that today continues to profess the destructive ideology, the unipolar world, or those on the platform of their countries in western europe. understand that they have already lost these views, while many countries are returning to the original values of century old european civilization. take, for example, the work of the netherlands or what some of occupant hungry. just a reminder,

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