in addition to now built, there was in the knowledge that these fight against evil is a fight which is followed by generations now some 40 saw so monday law was a great man, a great south african upgrade to african and a great human being and didn't put him in but funded by persons of goodwill. thank you very much. as we continue our discussions there as of a short break and we've come back to continue these very significant conversations . if only to ensure that we a member, that africa needs to be set up in a short while, the same rom just don't have to shape

house after kids and engagement. because the trail, when so many find themselves boils, the parts we choose to look so common ground, the the, if you think about russia, what does your mind picture the landscapes open up the for you guys? the last one does you imagine the,

the discounts dodge the journey, the, the you ready to come along the, the, the bulk of the wall claimed and ruined the lines of tens of thousands. but it was the hague tribunal, with delta finishing flow to the muscle, expand on your side, i will talk to you and will all of that will cause up the carriers from you memos that the rest of your stuff or some of the funding that has made them i guess i need, okay, i will need you about 2. so mutual blood, the rest of you guys are doing any cook of soul tie it out loud in cash and built around what sort of on teams so. so this will,

the evictions offer something to bid. jane stuff says i've done this for the bus. they have to go, they need to be stuff as i so this, so now click on the nice to the problem. also i noticed with some of the to the, the i am theater to move out here in the center of the city of nairobi in 35. because can you continue with our conversations about the continent of africa today? we are full size on that debt question and is always important to remind ourselves that even as we talk about africa,

she's divided into 50 $400.00 is each of which has that for the sum, which is informed by a colonized vish we have on the $100.00, the former colonies of friends in west africa and in central africa. and when you talk about them, we must remember that in 1900 on 50 a. when those colonies was to vote yes or no. during the administration of shelves, the god, some of them agreed to remain within the french c, a with the consequences that the quantum is controlled from buddy. with the consequence that the gardens is such as see a fair wrong for west africa and central africa controlled from buddy. that the tradition in obtaining debts is also govern from ferry.

on the one hand, there was a former british corner needs to be found in west africa side. does have done a nigeria on saturday on, on that these countries i was so well gone, found in east africa countries such as daniel, uganda, tons on the, as on the, on my law, we with law controlled by the british on which upon regaining independence, organized themselves, around what is called the commonwealth of independent nation, which is a neo colonial body, controlled by the british from london and of cause the french have not a frank before me. we also have the former portuguese colony, the portuguese corner. it is because of the nature and demona in which very gained the independence. there is not so much control from lisbon, but there is also

a sense and with the least one government does of some leverage in a number of countries under of costs. they are the new and trends of the colonial project, the and friends such as the chinese in front sides of the united states of america on the rockies. so that also because today finds us off in a space, whereas she is a heavily in depth. but let us as the vice started for concepts to these indebtedness. when also con countries that he gained independence, many of them was colonial countries, or indeed many what, one of them, what colonial countries, except for life area on the if see up here on the economic i'll get texture of this countries was actually designed to benefit the colonial powers. the institutions in the banking suck. they cannot accept walk control from outside. and many of

those who i the struggle for independence. what made the problem is that the countries that they, i didn't edited were going to for us by phenomenally and offered the education as an avenue for doing so, didn't make promises. they said we are going to provide you with electricity. we are going to provide you with the water. we are going to provide you with 3 how we are going to provide you with the education we are going to provide you with all these things. we are going to provide you with jobs. but no sooner had they settled in office, then they realize that there was not enough money to finance all these things unread, did to give you money. why the bretton woods institution i m s and was about ready to give you money. why institutions created on, under the commonwealth,

ready to give you money? why all these institutions the americans also okay. and do i prepared to give you money by lot threatening this chinese game with infrastructure? so i prepared to build you, i really ways to build you a roads to build you. i outputs they, me, the idea is also okay. they are prepared to manage your ports and to do all these, the narrative set is that african countries now find themselves so heavily in debt to the only 2 countries in africa, which are not invested at israel on both one or they are the african countries are laboring on the deck, and they are not that truck. they cannot get into this via all those in dependence. because a number of them for every tone,

$10.00 that they make, they are spending $7.00 paying these bets they, they have full have to talk to the appropriate is they have to ensure that their population pay top says which unmanageable on this dropped is what is um b as a down be some while has talked about. do you not book that date? december royal toes, african countries that dismissal guided belief by african politicians that you can develop by borrowing money isn't will do it. you cannot mix, done based on loyal toes out is that history has demonstrated that the defy you'll get into debt. the more you lose you, i in dependence on africa and also i called them economy in this book.

dependent independence also tells us that as long as we are in that we are going nowhere because we will be going around and around. always brain debts, which i also designed to be on payables. hi, june chung. in his book the bod, somebody's done. oh, so it tells us that as long as we borrow money from the bod, somebody tons not to day shy, looks really never know liberation. you know, not show african countries find themselves between the devil and the different blue seats. i remember uh, 1987 very young to might. you see the sun, kara, when he attended a meeting of the organized vision of african unit. they did not just stop by and see off the is to the door. those who are willing to listen,

the time us come that we must not bartow on, we must refuse to pay the debts that we have. but because this must now be considered as if it is, of course they did not listen to him. and a few years later, they killed the mice. the daughter sunk gotta but it did not stop there. a few years later. the president of gun uh well my vendor disrupted not, not. i don't quite, i do a cool for i don't go on. i chronic speech in which you said gun not be on date, but no sooner had the central leasing office. then he started borrowing, demonstrating to both gun ends and africans. that is never easy out to get out of the class. just all the shy looks that are they i, man, the shy looks that odd that you will be in union. the shy looks will have on not

good job in the international economic relations where they want to keep africa in the face to a state of indebtedness. and um, saying to my fellow africans until the day that we leave all ourselves of indebtedness, we are going nowhere else. we are going nowhere. because as the african saying goes, he who depends on milk from above the call can only enjoy milk for so long. because sooner rather than later, the owner of the cow will take the call as the con people in gonna say, he who sleeps on the board. my can never sleep soundly because sooner rather than later, the owner of the month will ticket. we offer guns caught this your borrowing. i've been enjoying mills from border calls for too long. we have been slipping on board

much for too long. the time is now for us to release the selves from that indebtedness. and we can also do so by exploring thing on minute rolls. we can also do so by having a comb on card and 6, we can also do so by having no agree, i agree card devon up. we can also do so by making sure that we are not importing food. we can also do so by ensuring that we are not exporting are all material, but toggling find new edition africa must relieve us of from the button on the display. very often that fitness, it is still true. that portal is a slave of the land. we must stop it. stop it. we will. it is good advice for the moment. the conversations continue a pace, but for me,

that is to say by the noted that we've come again to continue with the conversation about the mazda continental buffer. the boiler, some remodeling feet suddenly less weight, or more in the homeless usage screw. when comfortable, we just didn't fit in the we sit on the pl, supposed to do it, but still on the ocean where y'all are still well busy. new york city to the right, they're going to deduct months. you some live in your the 170 is that a quick call momma cut that to me i, to, there's

a video the staffing a meeting in munich. russia is going to be there with our people. ukraine is also invited by the way, president trump claims to have organized trying latrell tools to resolve the ukraine. conflicts told us not to me. thing has not been confirmed by most india. it's on the side of peace, that's the message from prime minister to render moody, as he makes trouble at the white house where the need is a great the king, bilateral trade powers for us to find with the munich security problem for an stopping today, you were pain officials on the edge as relations with washington sour have a trump's commitment to stop the world. that breath.