tv Cross Talk RT February 14, 2025 11:30am-12:01pm EST
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and the selfish interest, and so i'm guessing, and i may be completely wrong that uh, this vending machine will have to make concessions from its and move away from its maximum of this approach. and the 2nd phase will probably go ahead, but whether that's correct or not, thom has done a huge damage to the united states by pacing this position. he's gain the patriot people across the region and beyond. because the policy, an issue is not an issue for us or for muslims. it is a humanitarian issue. and we've seen people from across the growth low support from east asia to west asia, north africa, south africa, north america,
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south of america. this is a global issue now and for him to support this is randy region which is carried out this genocide has only harm the united states and its allies. and i think this is something that the underestimate. yeah. the in the regions that, you know, what i was gonna add onto, uh, what i am agreeing with you completely is that it shows that the, the west is take, uh, revealed itself. the mask is off there we are, the, the, the west. they showing that it is a supporter of ethnic cleansing, of neo imperialism, neo colonialism. the if he shows it better for what it is, because even though the europeans protest, you know, they clutch their pearls, but they don't do anything about it. let's go to ramana and in rome, you know, you know, war ethnic cleansing and annexation is been the results of the zine, this project against the palestinians in palestine. but now it's being proposed as
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the solution. again, it's bit everything is been flipped and we can just move these people expelled them, then it'll be a what is this someone call it god. so largo i mean this it's, it would be funny if it wasn't so cringe. go ahead in room. yes. first of all, we have to admit that this was the very intense. so i mean, trump is know what the lead speaking about it. but the intention was indifferent in the budget administration when they dropped all of these weapons to israel, when they gave green light and you know to everything. when you know drills we close doors. they were saying, please get rid of her mouth, which actually means please get to read. the policy that people use is exactly what they were referring to. they wanted the ethnic cleansing, and even in terms of close circle with mariam edge or some for example, who do need an insane amount of money to trump campaign is talking about to fire.
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of course, who doesn't have in mind just before posting is what she has in mind is sheep focused, recovered the bethany of the hostages, and then she focused and ethic cleans uh, you know, to proceed with the ethnic, cleansing of god. and possibly the west bank, which is the, every good of the set of community movement that she represents. but i want to say something about, i mean, whoever, whomever thinks that the splint is feasible, either lying or is completely ignorant of history and geography. because, i mean, in 1948, we have seen hundreds of thousands of posting is moving to our countries and we know that, you know, our and countries are still dealing with that refugee crisis. how can we think that this plan is feasible? the 1st of all, from a practical point of view. so they go to gaza, and mandatory take posting is one by one because the posting a people have demonstrated that they have no intention of leaving casa,
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and that their resistance has been strong and proud throughout the genocide. so this is the 1st being and even in the case that the scenario is implementable, then arab country top made a miracle. i mean, for 16 months of countries as many art countries where shamefully assigned to the genocide and keep, you know, just meet this miracle. they actually are standing up now of course we cannot be surprised when the king of jordan during the press conference, which seemed more like a truck then press conference, said talked about chief national interests. he is right. he is thinking about you've national interest. you cannot accept a large amount of boasting youth because he knows the it to be to discuss the liking for his country and even the same time he cannot allow some to cross a certain threshold because that policy new cause is too important for his own
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if these are going to be his last term, you know, based on the list, there is a big change to the constitution of the coming down the line here, which i feel like at this point. we cannot do anything else, but the pieces are going to because last time, you know, if these and uh, i feel like he is approaching it that way. right? he wants to reshape not just the day that he wants to, to, to put the united states in a different role. right. i think we saw that we medical reviews stating that this is no longer a uni butler world order. and you know, we're not going to be able to sanction the countries in 5 years. it seems like there's a lot of, of, of, of, of understanding in the term white house where, you know, a, the, the global quarter stands now. yeah. but in the savannah, i think there's something to what you're saying and i and, and some of that i agree with. i mean on the greenland thing, the canada thing, the panama, i get, i get the, i get that and we're in a way, it's like 6 building very. it's like it's like building fortress america, right. but then i'm going to throw now back to my home. it here, but they're still the is, is real exception. it see that's what makes it so we
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a logical go ahead mohammed. but that's exactly why i think from that is a good thing for the world. because, and we've had this discussion during his 1st term multiple times on your show, trump shows the video base of the united states have policy, for example, of biden. and obama is gone. as your gas rightly pointed out, these policies of ethnic cleansing were being pursued under biden as well. uh and right now, so hit because it's so hypocritical watching items of borders. joe, anything outrage or is showing an outrage of what trump statements when they were assisting with this god, this holocaust and god. so it says it's removing the palestinians has outrages, but killing them where they are as all is fine. so in a sense, i find this, this whole narrative refreshing because it exposes the united and by the way, puts
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a lot of pressure on the pope. pro western and pull americans happened the region because these dictators whether it's in jordan or egypt or even turkey, where it adds up on is continuing to sell it as oil to. and so who cheat box a while to a nothing yahoo, all of them are put on or under greater pressure when the united states speaks like this, when the president speaks like this. but personally, i do agree that i think there's really, regime is an exception. we know the reason why the powerful design this lobby in the united states is behind it. but in general, i think that actually this whole, this talk of greenland in canada, the panama canal, is, is an attempt to create a dignified retreat for the united states. yeah, the united states can sort of back off and ukraine and bad cough and other places back down in other areas,
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but show itself to be stronger and read. the only problem in my home is going after people that can't defend themselves. what is green when gonna say no? i me foot. oh yeah, germany might send troops. the u. k. may send troops. aaron. so what? okay. i, that would be the one thing that us about brought up, i think is really important. before we go to the break, here, trump is an egomaniac, he's thinking very, very much about his legacy and how he wants to be seen. he wants to be put on mount rushmore. that is his goal. he wants to a peace prize because obama got one. and so i think that there's an enormous amount of overreach here, and we'll get to see it all over the next few days. you think that the the ceasefire will continue, even if it does, there's still the 3rd part and that's what we're going to talk about when we come back from the break. we're to go to that break, and after that break, we'll continue our discussion. our goal is to stay with our team the
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same wrong just don't safe house because the application and engagement equals the trail. when so many find themselves will support, we choose to look so common ground the the of all the wall claimed and ruined the lines of tens of thousands. but it was the hague tribunal, with delta of finishing flow to the subs. less on the expense i know it was that i will talk to you and all of that will cause up the curious time you members that the rest of your stuff or some which in the funding that has
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made them, i guess i need. okay. i will need you betcha. so mutual blood rushed through the cause of the thing and he took a sword toyota table, a cousin built around what sort of on teams so so so the, so the evictions or for something to bit jamie stuff. as i've done this for the bus, they have to go, they need to discuss as i so the, so now click on the nice to cover the problem. also, i noticed was that some of the, [000:00:00;00] the, if you think about russia,
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what does your mind picture the bottom landscapes? open up the fully lines, the water one does you imagine the, the discounts dodge the journey? the, the, you ready to come along the welcome back, across stuff we're all think is it considered? i'm peter real about you mind you were discussing godsa the ok, let's go to another in rome. it's already been mentioned here, the normalization of relations between saudi arabia and israel. the abraham process is it's called here, but there, there is
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a different normalization going on. and this is what trump is done. he's normalized ethnic cleansing. okay. it's that, you know, it has to be done. it's just how it's done. that's the discourse. he's changed in that direction, but it's very, very dangerous. and because there is, so you have a, a extremely right wing government under nets. and you know, in israel, they're just tearing it on. and again, you know, maybe this is my interpretation, and i have to admit to all of you, i've talked to a lot of people since last tuesday and there are a lot of different interpretations. so what's going on here, but it is a donald trump, again in the united states is taking on all of the risk because it'd be, the americans insist that it must be cleaned out. and these rates just say, well, you know, that's what the americans want to do. i mean, it's passing the risk. go ahead and room. yes i, i do not know exactly what trump had in mind. i have to say that the character is
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unpredictable, especially when it comes to foreign policy. but you know, doing that seem as press conference on february 4th. so to be shocked, even this unhealthy, very shocked. honestly, it seemed that she was caught by surprise with it and nonsense, and the, the to risk that i see in the plan that trump and on seated is more in the way it can be absorbed by these right. politics i treat, i think that for example, it anyhow, which doesn't necessarily would benefit from discipline any way. because even the effect of saying the united states, we take ownership of golf. they're not saying is, well it's, we'll take ownership of government. they're saying this is an american issue, this is the washington issue. so i do not think that even on the ground for me is, well, these actually enables was made and how has in mind. but in the same time, it's on how immediately took advantage and try to get these lifeline for his own
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political interests for, for example, to regroup his extreme government. so now the year, for example, didn't stop screening since february 4th, please implement the plan. i would like to tell them you're the problem is not that they didn't try already to ethically clean god, but they have been trying for 16 months. the problem for you is that they didn't manage, they didn't succeed in best plan. but in the meantime, you know, nathan, how could take this in the, to his government, in these words and other political groups he needs what? because don't forget that actually basically or main political parties, he needs was totally agree. i have the i think lindsey of publishing is as a solution to the problem. so when we talk about extremism in these, well, it's really very complicated and very complicated. a ground. yeah. well i, as i say i, i think it's a very narrow overton window. okay. exactly, okay,
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that's about, i mean they were coming up this saturday about, uh, 3 hostages or hostages or all the hostages thinking there's so many different takes, or you can interpret the way. what do you think they will go into the 2nd part of the ceasefire? because it seems like israel has, we've, i think all of us with our agreement, they never were on board for this. it was public political expedients at the time i trump wanted it, he got, you know, he got the glory for it. the afterglow is almost gone. but i don't see why is real would do it a um, they're looking at their costs, which is they never talk about the palestinian hostages that are being held in jails in israel. is there a chance that this could be extended? i say, i do believe there is a chance a i'm not sure if it's uh the, how big a by chance there is, right? because there is, these are, there's for a lot there is for warm or in the end is ready to go. or maybe it is really as uh, as i guess, as it is really population itself. right? uh they,
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they got the problem is not going to be resolved by allowing them to reveal this is the way that they see it, right? especially when you see email just of cassandra yates, we arm you and we, these raise your weapons, a setting up these stages setting up these, these, these small parades, right, to showcase the 1st of all the hostages in the copy was really in english. i have barely been mistreated, the 2nd of all that they're still in control, right? that they're literally coming out of the trenches as saying, look, you committed genocide on last for 15 months, you slap in gossip, and yet here we are. here we are still, and this is a reminder that these really uh, that is real and the united states does not like to see. right, because it goes against everything that they have done and everything that they stand for and everything that they say. and now donald trump, this idea to ethnically cleansed a guy, so he's going to be sending us troops and band and very likely he's not going to be uh, he's not gonna be ready troops doing it right. we're already seeing that. he's ready to troops. thank you. a lot of cbs, but they're not very successful at actually, you know, and removing people from uh,
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from uh where their homes are. and so what are we talking about here? i think at the end of the day here, they're probably going to consider private media type attractive, right? a mercenary companies like those that have already been putting in beats to come in and brought the humanitarian songs inside of the gaza strip. so at the end of the day, what we're seeing today is really the depth of international law at the author of us commission. this is what the united states end of trump presidency and dividing presidents as well. i'll tell you what i'd be more of a saw was doing. you know, you know, mohammed the, i think it s yvonne put it really just perfectly. this is the internet end of international law, international human, a humana terry in law. and it's the way it's really pathetic about it is these were i is they came out of the west and now the west is rejected them. there's always an exception. okay. it shows the west and its true light. i mean how, what, what will happen during the 2nd stage here, i mean, there still captives in israel is nothing. yeah. who going to, he's a, he does,
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he's never seem to have shown that have much interest in their fate. it's only because of the prodding of people like donald trump and his donors go ahead mohammed again, i think that it is in trump's interest for the 2nd phase to move forward. but regardless of what happens when trauma, as you alluded to the, the, the 3rd phase when he rejected the 3rd phase a few days ago. basically what he did was that he undermine the united states as a negotiator or. so for example, right now the united states wants to negotiate with you've drawn it yet. but when the writing and see that the united states as the guarantor of the ceasefire, and god says now saying we don't want the 3rd phase, that means you cannot trust the united states. you cannot trust any deal that it proposes. and the same is, remember not if it is rainy,
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regime violates the cease fire day night. murder is innocent people and the united states as a guarantor or the ceasefire, does nothing in that means. basically you cannot across the united states. and even though i do not believe in the rules base order for the very reason that you pointed out, that it was designed by the west and it serves their interests and they constantly buy and they did it because they saw themselves as exceptional. but in my opinion, it was in their interest and undermining this order. actually, while it is it, it, it creates great hardship in the west becomes more brutal and in and it shows it as a more ality. but i think the collapse of this order is in the long run, a good thing, because it breaks the chains that the americans and the europeans have created for the rest of the world and there, but it can no longer behaving an exceptional manner. the rest of the world no
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longer sees itself for themselves as a restrained by this order which benefits the west. so in my opinion, in the long run, by, by violating the deal, by dismissing the 3rd phase by violating the rules base order, what truck and the united states are doing, or by tearing up the rules base order is that they are further undermining the position of the united states, even though in its short term being made, he or the united states may think that it benefits the you know, it's very interesting. we're amount of last week on this program to my head, to my good guests. and i think um, i saw the future of this movement because they were deeply divided on trumps policy . when it comes to the guys that i knew it was going to happen when you don't have power, you can say all kinds of things. but now trump is in office and his movement is
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getting more and more divided over this. there's a part of his movement is just as appalled as we are. and there, you know, it's a lot like, you know, a steel tear up should be 17 percent or 25 percent. we're not talking about tariffs, we're talking about genocide and more and more people are beginning to realize that which side of history do you want to be on? and it's, it's good to divide his movement. that's why i said in my introduction, this is going to be determine his legacy. go ahead and roam to. yes, absolutely. and i mean, some doesn't act in a vacuum. of course, you have a lot of influences. for example, last week there was a, in a letter from is where you revise standing him, that she was the messenger for all good against evil. so, of course he's acting in these also in his own circle, which is, you know, filled with extreme as design. if and cetera of colonial and people who do not
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accept that the word is indeed changing. and i fully agree with the fact that the legitimacy of the west is, you know, shaking. and this is something that they cannot deny. they cannot be, they can no longer deny and you know, even the, the east lucky cells like the consequences of what happened in gaza. i think we would see them in the long run. evil has lost the deter, is misery deterrence in the region and in gaza. itself, and this is something that, you know, in the long run we will see the consequences. but now they are particularly eager to show that they are still in control. that you know, those to some degree of power. and these of course will be a stage in this process that is, we'd be particularly atrocious for publishing and, and the policy and population. but it is undeniable that what's up ending garza, what's happened, you never know what happens with iran to do. you have to end and easily we have to
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deal with that as about we have 40 seconds left, finish it off for us. you know, i just want to to, to follow by. 2 reminding people that there is organizations at this point that are moving forward with uh, with the lawsuit. seconds is randy work, creamy knows, you know, like the cambridge out from nation or even day. the south africa's case against the agency, the international criminal court, which is going to open up a legal names for these are all to be accountable for his really needs to be accountable. and one would hope eventually even you went to leaders to be accountable for what they have allowed to happen and are going we need to continue to are allowed to happen in ga. so, you know, joe might and normalize genocide thrown out, thrown because if it's normalizing ebony glancing, what's next? right. where does the buck stop and where does the international community find? all these sites in all these are not, we're seeing a few as the, the tragic thing is that the people of palestine are being monitored to create a better world. that's a really hard thing to think about. that's all the time we have fascinating
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discussion. when i think my guessing room toronto and into the end, and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here in our tea. so you next time, remember, prospect rules the the best curtis curse them on the time you know, solution let us know. there's just some of the solution studios you're thinking maybe as of right now, just to the federalist are so used to not so full insurance. so she thought she needs to take classes, hutchison, being charged at the high pon, pon, slow the doses at what time to time for $0.95. and i'll get you into the system and
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[000:00:00;00] the breaking news and r t a will need a turn from loving their zelinski who seized a will meet with a lot of air pollutant and no other russian for peace negotiations. south to this fight, are you printing in law forbidding talks with the president also? and what i worry about is the threats from within the retreat of europe, from some of its most fundamental values value shared with the united states of america. no mentioning of where it's probably us, vice president, gd found something new. next security conference us european officials, our directory trust guys for targeting re speech and counseling elections. but it
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