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by you are appearing in 2025 or a shed, you'll do war diaries, more referring to the proxy war in russia through ukraine. what did you make a red road munich? summit hague said that brussels in front of nato defense secretaries appearing to say, you know, of the 1000000 dead ukrainians. 25 percent directory gone. so $7000000.00 plus displays bankruptcy if you grain, no. nato membership. no, you security guarantees. if anything, $500000000.00 a debt in minerals to the usa node stream bombings and nothing is regards germany. and basically, that's it. the nato troops are not going to be in ukraine. and ukraine has to give up the land as the is there's a lot of news. the fact there, the, the journalist of the world overwhelmed by the initiatives not always call them journalists, professor dr. uh the, the, those who are putting out of the daily briefings that the most of the public ridge
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call that just information color. but your real point is that mr. trump has a flurry of initiatives every day which capture the imagination of media, both main stream media as must be honest about alter the. the question is, what is he actually intending to do? and the question arises because of the, the distance between the train, his words and his actions of the the subsidy we've noted a long time ago. he is given to bluster to an exaggerated threats as a method of negotiation of softening up is talking partners and making them a metal metal to solving things as he would like. regrettably what is missing and all of this is a sense of reality. a sense of being well informed,
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disregard. i think one thing we should a direct attention to is the concrete continuity and ignorance in the our decision makers in washington and in your before mr. trump's appearance on the stage. after his appearance on the stage, the, the real style machine and statements that were made by 20 blinking in his last press conference, the trip before departing office. he was reciting all the principals or the, the concepts that had guided him in his, during this period in office as well. there's stick to russia and the war and ukraine and everything was delusional. everything showed absolutely ability to absorb what he could find to the daily newspapers if he ever welcomed them. same is true of people around donald trump today and trump himself,
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in his state statements for this good. let's go to that provides the office. i want to get to that and, and name them because i mean, as you imply, the journalists have to quit the swivel around what they've been saying for 2 years defending this. uh, this obvious defeat that was coming for nato power is because they seem to try and make out that this wasn't a huge concession when, as you refer to it blinking was saying no, everything crimea will positive us something to the nato idea. naming the personnel who is general kellogg, the coolant like defendant, who seemed to be saying only the other day that uh that uh, that there was that somebody the of its sanctions enforcement. he was telling the new a post stone by the moodle that sanctions enforcement on rusher only a 3 on
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a scale of one to 10. just tell us who kellogg is and how that goes to support what you're saying about the people around trump. giving him clearly well, giving him lies with which to somehow handle this situation. the problem is that people like color or high positions they have is a general control and you already know they are they are. yeah, she is the emissary. other to the donald trump chose he's, he's made very peculiar choices and i mean you're opening days of who will be the power ministry people, people who are as, as go astro, built in the country for security. the domestic and international for foreign policy is taking people who nominally have been on the other side of these issues from what he was saying during the initial actual campaign. and he has the, the,
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the, the, the expectation to say, will follow his orders and do his bidding. and in that way, by taking people who are not just post to race interpretation, he is going to be able to deal with the, the unit party in congress, in a, in a constructive way and to have them approved. but here's what he is going to recommend to them. this is a, this is a tactic that may succeed and may not. mr. kellog is part of this tactic. someone who is not a believer in uh, in uh, finding a, a, an accommodation with russian. not just the end of the war, but an accommodation with russia, which was from the very beginning, it's clear mr. trump's intention and the problem with full and with trump himself, is that they are vision formed. now there are explanations. i have,
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i'm on a number of different, very reputable, and for j to to interview programs. and my peers who are interviewed separately in these programs are military experts as you a people. and they will come to one conclusion that the 8 c l, u and the other intelligence agencies on stage had been feeding to the president and to everyone who has a right to this, this intelligence briefings that are made day by day. they've been repeating some essentially, let's say pickup, and they pass it along as guides. truth, without any attempt to, to try to find other sources as words, the top people decision makers on this page had been fetch lies and propaganda for the last 3 years by the intelligence agencies which a, c, i, c, i, a is the most prominent. however,
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there are problems with bad explanation and the problems that come up particularly last month or so, when the main purveyors of lies and propaganda, our mainstream media like to financial times like the new york times have changed their to spend are giving day by day factual information about the ukrainian losses that the russian gains out of balance in the trajectory of the war now leading directly to a russian victory. if these gentlemen ever picked up the new york times and throw away the trash they're receiving, let's see, i have, they would be saying very different things. mr. trump. mr. kellogg, change events. they all would be saying something different. instead we hear such a war is terribly costing lives and it's a stalemate. there's not still. so let me just see, i would tell you it's
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a such style. the news that we get a budget in mainstream. i'm not talking about alternative media. i'm not talking about cheerleaders for russian. i'm talking about mainstream information. so you went to a look essentially, i've noticed that you have to and of course we know talk a call soon within the white house. in the past few days, we know his views interviewed booting and as being continuously talking about how the narratives in the media are available to american citizens left alone the in the totality area and european union way you where it's banned, talk about the nazis of ukraine, where archie is, i understand is banned where you are. the twitter is banned in the european union. don't allow w o where you are in brussels to receive information. perhaps even that like the new york times is now printing. and you wouldn't have been allowed to read that a few months ago. hm. well, yes,
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and no. the situation in europe is that they're not quite as viable is because you just a r t is under that. that's clear. but you can watch, i watch the russian news every day, uh for interactions and frankly speaking, but i just, i know it would. there are a few people out there for no rush. and the point is that the russian news is actually better than any of the english language productions that archie was putting out the they, are they all they're available on on, on various subjects. nancy goal? yeah. difficult for pressing on 50 contracts to access this kind of thing obviously . and it's easier, given the 200 know, go to a concept to go to your local library public library. way you'll find that to mysteriously some books being bull by the public library. and some on i think one would give you, but on this idea are sanctions then let's go to this as quickly go to sanctions.
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trump claim that the sanctions are a way of leveraging zalinski and, and then uh, in any kind of seem to be appearing to say no leveraging zalinski over to accept to any terms. but to get these um, detaining them and lift the minerals out of ukraine. i think we both know actually there are no in ukraine anymore. there in what rush you can see it is russia now. so what do you think it'll be wheat fields? scope besides the treasury secretary, was there ahead of today's munich summit, as we're talking about fake news. this whole story, which was originally was, goes back to uh, to zalesky himself. this was 2 months ago, but he was proposing that to that ukraine's mineral wealth be put on an offer to the stage or to europe as a guarantee for the payment of the equipment that is being delivered to, to you,
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pray. now this was put up then it's now been revived, is never as if it was a new i think, newly discovered idea in the, in the trunk. what a white house. but there's nothing to it. it is simply a smoke and mirrors for, for the unsuspecting and 100 formed public. the discretion has been dealt with on russian talk chosen by jury, a foreign changes experts who have said that, oh yes, but he's the, these were metals then try to name, not just the rivers, but metals like genuine vivian, which have great value today. they just in ukraine and they're spread out in many different places. so i don't quite agree with you that the whole and the russian sector, maybe 30 percent of us this lift the merchants, any of our, in the say 25 percent of the land mass of russia is now occupied there. but the
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main point is that this is not a new content, it's just been discovered in the middle of the ocean. ukraine has been around for a long time. it was part of the save your journey. and so we're getting at one of the most of the world's leading, extracted, mineral industries. they, they mind everything imaginable in the russian federation. and they never meant spend much money developing the extraction with these minerals and ukraine for good, really? well, we'll get back as they say, but 2 of them are totally viable. we'll get back to there's a button to professor gilbert up to our, i'll stop you. the more from the author of does the united states have a future after this, right. the look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people. a
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robot must obey the orders given it by human beings, except we're such shorter is that conflict with the 1st law show your mind. and just in case we should be very careful about visual intelligence, at the point obviously is to makes a truck rather than fit the various jobs. i mean with the artificial intelligence, we have somebody in the team in the robot must protect this phone. existence was alexis, the if you think about russia, what is your mind picture the
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landscape open up before your eyes? the was one of those. you imagine the, the discount starts the journey, the, the, you ready to come along the, the, the welcome back to going underground. and i'm still here with the older of does rush. i'm a future and full, the chairman of the russian book, and let's reprise professor gilbert gulf tara professor, dr. o, we were talking about the minerals in the, the end of thought one you were saying,
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actually it's reading the over rag. this idea that it's all in the russian now, lots of russia pods of you. great. there are rarer minerals will trump, uh, get ahold of them. you're saying that there. uh, they haven't been really that developed since the vailable came down and before they were to go because they're not worth developing. and there are many minerals all kinds. there are a 100 cards, all kinds spread over the whole group, but there are very few concentrations of whether extraction and they're distracted . where's commercially viable is not commercially viable to extract them and ukraine, the geology, such that it doesn't pay to do it? if it pay to do it, the soviets would have done images. so this is how there is a distraction from the real issue of do we supply adobe supply arms to ukraine? and if it's, if the issue is, is advanced. if they say that there's something to,
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to extract from ukraine, it's only twice an argument of false argument to justify continuing to send arms to ukraine. and continuing to do to lie about the real state of the war, which is not a stalemate, but intending russian victory an impending ukrainian defeat. but then we should be its relation, but they all items uh, as far as we understand it from the united states of deal going there and presumably zelinski and uh, those neo nazis uh that are part of the forces of ukraine will think. now is the time to increase the amount of a symmetric tire or offensive as the last goest, as you imply of a losing uh of a losing battle, i mean should rusher and i'd be expecting more terror attacks. i know there have been since the trump took office,
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it is always unforeseeable. but you engage in terrorism when you are losing on the battlefield in traditional warfare. so every effort by the ukraine to, to murder a generals, to murder heis, of the founders of the, of the militias. getting the don bosh as they have done the last 2 months. and these are demonstrations of their weakness, not of their strength. the why don't we have to raise izzy capitulation. the russians now are within close distance trip across which is the last major fortified center in the middle of done yes of us to region. and once that is taken, which is likely in the next several weeks, there will be a clean drive just in the upper river. in the it is in the,
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the ukraine trips have very little possibility following back building defenses and protect themselves against the coming on smart. this is why the, the crumbling is, i'm willing to a, to proceed to am, to a cease fire as it is our role is taking a long time to reach this momentum, but they're now enjoying and they want to see it through to the end. as the vast majority of russians want to see happen. yeah. what about then the british, the british being closely involved in the proxy war, not just cuz u k b m, or as johnson has been in dubai, actually this week uh, famous discovering the piece of negotiation in that key, which would have argued be saved so many lives in effect, he helped gail an end. so many of those lives. does it have any wider repercussions
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if us a guess tom or of a britain does what? some of the sources are claiming that he would put british soldiers into the conflict, the tags that the boss of the pentagon jumps. most of the pentagon saying you can individually european countries put people in the just not 100 nato umbrella. any real repercussions of the mass slaughter of british soldiers in kiev for i live in bots of ukraine, presuming the russians is to go to the mall, or is that just a separate side side, but obviously terrible for the british of these remarks. they start from previous behavior by doors, drugs. they are bravado, they're empty. i'm serious. russians are laughing up to sleep with them is the whole, the ground force of britain is $50000.00 and the russians have now um, more than a 1000000 men at arms, going close to a 1000000 and
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a half to speak about the 50000 amount for ship there was a pretty good a sell. send it, some tire on to the to the front. it would be wiped out and then then you would have school would be left to protect britain a few but few policeman. there, bobby hatch. this is absurd. this is, this is the situation back in the, in the, in the iraq war was and the lead lead up to that was that the, the bridge where the adults to, to the americans. unfortunately, the pro business has moved on and the british today and the personal johnson that now stammered, they are the attack dogs. they are, they have moved headed out in front of the united states. and they are exposing himself to the other hatred in contempt of the russians. um the, uh, if there were to go to be an escalation bridge and has
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a bullseye written all over, the trump could tell them to go. trump doesn't seem to have much time for the card . we're just going to, i should just say the british people think really like in so many other european countries, these leaders have very little political capital. we which to deploy huge numbers of troops to the east crime to yes, this is will empty talk. the europeans, 25 and 27 european leaders are conformist and cowards and they're shaking in their books today as to what the americans will do. if america pulls out a supporting ukraine and says, boys, it's yours, they know very well that they will drop football. they have no ability to provide equipment, provide manpower to provide the air covered. and the intelligence in real time intelligence that has been provided. button states insurance they are
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unable to assist ukraine in any significant way. absent american participation, there are 2 at of 27 national leaders who are ahead of the rest in facing reality. and they are not friends approaching. they are simply really so the, the meeting that took place last weekend between the uh, the far right of these years of europe, which includes of course 3, but then um and so do you need from literally uh they have take cards from the positions of donald trump, and so there is a bit more distance as high levels within europe. i think as a matter of, of the year term is airport crack. finally,
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since everyone was not running for cover in the stations of mr. trump started aggression plans for, for a revising trade relations with yet there's a lot of wonder sacrifice with a crack. what does that device they made and that people is made with the increasing heating costs and inflation and so on. i should, i should say, that is on the, the usa of a future, the written as a collection of essays. it is, does russia have a future rest? you're obviously believes or the russian government does that come out of this. a terrible proxy war has come advantages because of the sanctions because of the new links to china and iran into india and so on. of course, uh, i have to just find the rebel. but really by asking you about how refreshing your thought is that trump ended the aerial bombardment of gaza and the actual kinetic of genocide, at least for a few weeks since he was came into office. and then refreshingly explains that it's
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about ethnic cleansing. how does united the entire world against the policies of say, they feel policies as regards palestine? israel, here in the u. a allied to saudi arabia read, you have to rush it to china to everyone is now on board for realizing that the zionist project is a lead full and despicable one. as i started to draw any conclusions about what the trunk is doing well, planning. as i said, he's a master showman and he has his own understanding of how because stations should be prepared as one thing to say. yes, we did wonders in not ending the the bumper got a bunk bodily chickasha. my god, another thing i'm with now people are watching this of us. we have to say, right? it might be just normal this, that was a standard to see how they managed to,
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to achieve a cease fire. and he was receiving bus or to is that he has put a, from the plans of nature at yahoo to attack you wrong. the relations with the wrong or not, sorry, i was personally helpful. that's barely said. now it's rich from the the trumpet, ministration. today a wrong when i go sessions the say all you may have been is me a ring and government that say no, we will never negotiate with the trump administration. as far as i understand it, that's the runs position because there's no point in believing donald trump, because donald trump was the man who was, who's crying about killing the general. so the money could be the man who successfully defeated isis. how give me, as i believe in the country, i believe that there were background sparks change. i run and washington and the stage around was very awful. not just the president of the may supreme leader was
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full for the face with a lead to a accommodations. nice place, putting the conference station that goes back to 1980, i addressed an proceedings or something back to the president does ask if need be or i'll give you the argument fun for that is the nature of the long term comprehension. part question that russia can speak for the wrong a couple of weeks ago. we all expected that that would happen. it's a component of national defense. you didn't. and the fact that it was asked was by up this understanding of both my strong entry room, if there was about to be an accommodation of some sort, christy nonsense. and then it was appropriate to do the best of that to have a military alliance between rough do well. so there was the expectation,
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regrettably, mr. try and entered into this plan and it goes, oh, well i got the phone and i'm trying show are proceeding to do to go to say about the wrong. the same as he has done in advance of negotiations with this approach. we impose a more draconian sanctions on you and then you will come and the go check with us and we will, they will do from positions to thanks back, which is obvious attempt, regrettably, it doesn't work regrettably for, and i say at the moment for the right age, the mean model try, we have to return to whoever had the time we'll have direct and do is hopefully we won't be will by then, or these the united states will be it will by then professor gilbert, go to our thank you. now that's all that's it for the show will be back on monday to us cable is the a and us state department of visual how far trump is again being undermined from inside his own administration. and so then you can keep in touch my role as social
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media or if it's not sense in your country or indeed it's not sensitive but you don't musk otherwise. what's going on? do i keep your trouble dot com to watch new and old episodes going underground see monday, the climate global warming thoughts of field warming has become a convenient scapegoat for you know, all of the planets, problems, you know, whatever. there is a water resource shortage. they don't blame for water management, bad governance, or extravagant use of water. instead, they blamed climate change. the, the, the,
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the bulk of the wall claimed and ruined the lines of tens of thousands. but it was the hague tribunal, with delta finishing flow to the muscle, expand on your side, i will talk to you and will all of that will cause up the curious thought me memories that the rest of your stuff or some which in the funded 13 asthma them, i guess i need. okay, a for me is you about to send me to blog that i still with you guys? are that doing any cook of soul tie it uh table uh, a couch and built around what sort of on team so so so the eviction door for something to bed. jane stuff says lights on this for the bus. they have to go into the stuff as i said this. so now click on the nice to cover. the problem. also, i noticed was that some of these are probably not the
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the, the landscape trying to justify a proposed plans to 100 ukraine's natural riches, to the new west signal all seasons on, on folks with the russian president. thank he was and eventually sit down with the estimates who to plus uh, president, trump is not able to find a solution that's wore cold becomes easily off of got installed for you to be hung, gary and premier will instead of moving the zones to full, the confidence which is already drowning and a myriad of issues is pointed out by the us vice president. and what i worry about is.

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