or the most go and washington's talk, but did not speak over the phone buttons t a. the lens p is coming to some of the fact that pete is part of trump state if the data will be in such a large manner, which demonstrates united states to ration i think, yes. so we, i don't very happy with it. to be honest with this slide, the insurance thing, question having no pets, it had this week. trump and very upset and judging from statements coming out to the white house. your brains bid for nathan membership is over as visit 10 protection factor,

any losses that have returning to you freeze free 2014 borders is an unrealistic objective. chasing this. illusionary goal will only prolong the war and cause more software or visit us on europe. it needs is into panic mode, desperately finding ways to be included in the piece tools as, as a member of the trump team. so the, you have a team of to negotiate. can you, can you a show this audience that you create and will be at the table and your p as will be at the table? the answer that last question, just you framed it? the answer is now. the 2nd round of everything is announced in the republic, both positive, often and non of the 5 counted as secure the majority of the folks in protest. today's presidential election, the

hello and welcome to audience national. well, on sundays we take a look at the big stores at the last 7 days, plus all the latest developments. well, i'll top story this, how the lines of communication, a wide open process for administer has spoken with his us, count, bought over the phone. what wed joined in the studio now while she corresponding don't oh cool. so i mean, such a change in get by food. yes. of fights and putting up a rule, refusing to them outputs in the killer washington most go plenty of tool. can we have this cool? i mean, what's the trick behind those? give us what details we do know? well, definitely looks like the lines of communication between moscow and washington had become more and more active with this call from the us secretary of state, marco rubio, to russia's foreign ministers. 3rd, a lab problem, they discussed a wide range of topics, specifically kind of rolling back the restrictions on russia's diplomatic missions to the united states that were established under the obama administration. and also

how to take steps towards resolving the middle east and ukraine conflicts. and on top of that, both of these officials also discussed the organizing and in person meeting between donald trump and blood in airport. and then they also said that they were happy that communication has been restored on a mutually respectful level. and that they're looking forward to more of it in the future. well, i mean, you'd mentioned that this potential meets it and right coming up some of the saying and saudi arabia, between trump and peer to they have their own up phone conversation. i know that obviously people are probably quite vaulted about what was said, but have any tip, it's any highlights come out. well, of course uh this all started with this historic phone call, but donald trump had with vladimir putin earlier in the week on wednesday. and they finally broke the ice in russia. america relations after years of both of these powers, pretty much having no communication whatsoever. and according to the kremlin, this is a major signal that piece has become a priority to get. the most sense in out of this is

a powerful signal and we will now attempt to solve the problems through dialogue. we will talk about peace, not warranty. what was the situation with the previous administration? so no dialogue should more until the end. that was the initial was a little bit of a previous administration. wait another. judging by president trump statements, we resolve problems through dialogue. no more. we changed this as ition should appeal more to any recent person, no more said deal. trump also gave his $0.02 on his own phone call with lot of miracles and saying that it was highly productive. funny later told journalists, some things that hasn't gone that haven't gone down very well and ukraine because he and his defense secretary are essentially saying no to ukrainian membership and nato, and no to ukraine's pre 2014 borders. secretary defense who is excellent. pete made a statement today saying that he thinks is unlikely or impractical. i think probably that's true, i think long before present are important. as i said,

there's no way that allow that this has been going on for many, many years. and they've been saying that for a long time, that ukraine can not go into nato then. and i'm, and i'm ok with that. i just want the word whether they are there or not. but i, it certainly would seem to be that most people have said that, that is something that's not gonna work. well, i think pete said today that that's the unlikely, right? we must start by recognizing that returning to ukraine's pre 2014 borders is an unrealistic objective, is chasing this. illusionary goal will only prolong the war and cause more suffering. it certainly would seem to be unlikely. they took a lot of land and they fought for that land and they lost a lot of uh they lost a lot of soldiers, but it would just seem to be and i'm not, i'm not making an opinion on it, but i read a lot on it. and lot of people think that,

that sort of likely with statements like that, you can probably imagine how worried zalinski is about to have me having or not having a significant place at the negotiating table. because despite trump saying that he had a conversation with the once the right after this phone call with platinum or putting it seems like the positions with the adult, moscow, and washington, or that they're not very confident in valencia's authority and legitimacy as a leader. 80 to today i q um, interesting question. i think they have to make peace that people have been killed and i think they have to make peace. your i showed that was not a good way to go into and i think they have to make peace. that's what i think you know, i don't think so as long as he's there. but you know, at some point you're gonna have to have elections to. you're gonna have to have it like just to be, to go to most of the skin which you can negotiate. with anyone but zalinski is

illegitimate. he has no right to sign anything. but if he wants to take part in the negotiations, i will send people to conduct these negotiations. the issue is the final signing of the documents. this is a very serious issue that should guarantee security for ukraine and russia with a serious long term it into store co perspective to. i mean, we definitely seem to be getting the impression that took place. i mean, we're reading about it on a daily with hourly basis now. i o, we on the verge of finalizing dates, times locations the summit, so deals, whatever else. while the crumbling spokes person to meet your passcode did invite trump to rush whenever you want it to come, but according to media reports, the most likely place right now where a would be meeting between vladimir putin and donald trump would take place is saudi arabia and this is a place that donald trump had suggested before, but from us outside. we haven't heard any come confirmation about that yet. now is

lensky did chime in on all this is expressed as concerns about being sidelined and any. so any sort of negotiations that are going to take place. and he also said that he was concerned about the friendly nature of communication between russia and the united states. and so not right now if the data will be in such a polite manner, which now demonstrate united states to russia. i think yes. so we are not very happy with it. be honest, but this is, this is live out singly enough. bloomberg is now reporting that the us special envoy for ukraine talk talk keith catalog has been left out of the american negotiating team. instead, they apparently planned to send the us as envoy to the middle east. they're the same official who organized the recent high profile prisoners swap between russia and the united states. so we've only got media reports right now. we're gonna have to see how this plays out in terms of the time place and who's going to be there. well, i'm hoping that even though i have going to be done because that would be an opposite

or a historical moment. of course, of to all these years of war, a non communications. i was all to you correspondent on quotes. i joined mean speed . thanks. well, donald trump picking up the phone to kohls not him at 210 has rustled. politicians are in europe and that was even before the u. s. v p took to the podium up them unix, secure to conference, j. d fonts, criticized, use room, ongoing stones, and slammed it's cracked down on free speech, leaving the origin slightly out of los for what's on to todd. though it was all about same event, the platinum is the landscape encouraged brussels to build its own all me. and then to pull it to crate, where it has to become self sufficient, united by coma strauss, ukrainian, and european. if not to us, then we'll stop them. i really, i really believe the time has come, the forces of your must be created. it's a really interesting cool, you cray, not

a member of the european union and the actually saying essentially europe needs its own on me. i think this is something we've heard before from the european need is president macro, and the fonts particularly quotes, but they so but the last a few years. um, but of course in you, this is an incredibly contentious issue. and in fact, many does the work, see you're repeating on the a tool, including germany's own talents, left through all of schultz. he says it's a big fact. no to clean now has nearly 1000000 soldiers on the weapons. if you count altogether that are relevant for the better future that they are well, eclipse park would be better, but they are really eclipse by a bus them, munitions, and all the, all the kind and because of this, so it's absolutely clear that the post slow, you cream would have

a very strong army. well, however, there all those in europe who uh, preferably likely to green boulder this idea of having a european oh man, this includes the polish foreign minister who is essentially said that europe in troops will be needed to be sent to you crate. and he didn't say nato troops. he said, europe in troops. when president trump says that as part of a deal, they will have to be repealed and troops well will have to be asked to, to supply them. so, sooner or later we'll have to be involved. this begs a huge question. does europe have the ability to do something like that? we know for decades and decades, there was massive and the spending when it came to defense budgets impacts from during his last presidency. he famously came to europe and said, hey guys, you need to stop spending more in nature in terms of defend spending, or we're not going to be the ones to protect you any more. so yes, we've seen an increase in defense funding by european countries in the last few

years, but that is not enough to make up those decades of the spending. and in addition to that, over the last few years, you think about the amount of industry hardware that is being sent to you create the as the listed, the ability of european countries for essentially defend themselves. and they're huge studies talking about how essentially the cupboards all back in europe as a result of what's being sent to you quite. and so is it likely that you can do this? i think many people would say, probably not when it comes to charlotte to piece talks that from putting coal and everything else that's come, since they're there has, in my sense being that i porting of optimism surrounding it. but it appears not everyone is willing to get run the table. it was really interesting news. we've heard us lensky saying at the munich security conference, but he will only speak to press a pretend he won't speak to any to the else does. it's not so the russian delegation, it will only be present treating well that is

a massive $180.00 degree to and from what we've heard over the last few years where he's point blank, refused to speak to the russian prices. in fact, i'm moving towards with russia. is he going to be able to even get up to a negotiating tables to really interesting to see where he's now coming from? it feels as if every day, perhaps, even every hour we getting a very different sensor wesley's lensky is coming from. and probably a lot to that is to do with the right panic that we have seen from him. i since these a flurry of announcements to being coming from the trunk administration. what's also really interesting is here with the munich security conference. he's also been trying to put the division between the us and europe, essentially go over, look, you know, usaa leaving us out of this europe. let's do it together because he was point blank . say, you know, when present from cools me about this possible negotiation. he was sidelining. not just you, craig. he was side blinding. you were to had

a most go with pulls. you are the part if we as europeans don't trust each other. a few days ago, president tom told them about cheese conversation was put to north winds. the to mention that the american needs you are at the table, which in one's while on one talks with america, it's just like before the war when they met in switzerland and it looked like to call them up the walt that's put in. we'll try to get the u. s. president, standing on the red square on main, on may 9th this year. not as a respected later, but as a pro, in his own performance. so as a lot of skew, doris, and she's saying that pitching is going to be using trump is essentially a barrier net profit. but the us doesn't seem to give too much of

a carrier about this. we've now heard from the us special envoy chief catalog. this is the guy that is going to try and put together this and to the war in ukraine and he's 10, ron, he's gone yet. you're not going to be at the table in general. they should not even complain devices. can you, can your show this audience the ukrainians will be at the table and europeans will be at the table. oh, are you just change the whole dynamic? pardon or victor, thanks for having us today. i appreciate the answer that last question, just you framed it? the answer is no. the answer to the earlier part of that question is yes, of course you can use are going to be at the table. interestingly, we have a goal these over chose about negotiations possible to in saudi arabia in the next few weeks. but at the same time, we've now had a statement coming up from the g 7 foreign ministers. they say they will read the looking at during up more sanctions to throw it against most scope. if most go

doesn't come to the negotiating table and do a deal. interestingly, bonus 3 is of sanctions hating russia and russia seems to be of no much strong composition that it was back then. so the reality is, after 3 is the sanctions not having the desired outcome. what makes the g 7 think but, and this thing is going to change that right now. well, see no evil ahead. no evil speak. no evil not seems to be the issue for and policies seems approach when it comes to the killing of russian civilians by ukraine speaking in unit car, carlos one so far as to suggest that keeps troops have not raised a single weapon. non combatants comments that provokes are of most well, when it comes to russia and ukraine, you know, the difference is that the russian civilians are not dying. i mean rice in children, then we will not dying. it's so which is on the ground,

the father territory. when you are occupied, then it doesn't mean you know in words, to have peace, but it doesn't mean that the human suffering was stop. and that is the something that we need to work for. this is a demonstration of the bus. a logical russo for big frenzy that the catalyst is in this approach makes for blind in depth to the desk atrocities and injuries that the russian civilians suffer at the hands of ukrainian nazis. i am sure that the college did not want to know about the death of 22 civilians in the risk of packaging it at the hands of ukrainian militants heard nothing about the shooting of civilians in cities of, of by the nazis and knows nothing at all about the daily rates and shelling of go to lift got, they'll go to should big in that in dozens of other cities will last moment. so no 2 bodies of $22.00 civilians were discovered in the cost region and a town previously occupied by ukrainian truth. the pope's as showed signs of torture prior to this he of forces have also continued. he showed residential areas

in both regions and leaving over $8.00 to $300.00 civilians, dads, and over $5000.00 injured in the past year. and that's according to russian authorities. well, full on refund and um, i mean you're, you're sonia, you'll someone who's been on the grounds long before this current phase of the conflict started in 2022. so i suppose there's no back to pass and to aust, how much do kaya kind of says was, corresponds with reality. oh, totally not, of course. i mean she forgets, also to say or to mention, or, i mean, not even think about it. of course the like in the cities of done yet, and what you mentioned before and her laska, people were dying children with dying. i mean, and these are okay to russian speaking, people there who are dying and a, we all know that the rest random in 2022. the 4 legions are now far to russia. so they are russians and they are dying. and of course,

a lot of people died in foot by the hands of ukrainian army. so it's a paradox, actually, because they are saying russia is killing its own citizens, but actually it's ukraine. who is they think these 4 regions are part of ukraine. they are the shooting or killing ukrainian, so it's a whole paradox of the are trying to say all over again. and i mean, russian people are dying also in russia and so forth. we know here in moscow we had so drone effects or the regions which mentions and bell hood of course case was a very terrible thing and we know that's malicious waiting for score. i hope there are no song for sure. no, there's a lot of regions are already liberated again. so but from the start, when it started in 2022, especially in military operation. for sure. thank you. a lot of people, and it was not only soldiers, it was russian speaking people, russian,

people who got killed. and this is something they tried to lie as well throughout the conflict. so, i mean, this is a lie continuing and continue. but now of course the, the ends of the lives on them. they are nothing as more your own. we can see death and especially this guy, a call us. she is very radicalized so me, when you read about her points of russia, it's unbelievable. i think her or in some house were certain to during the coming this time was okay, this is long over and they didn't, you know, even recognize somehow the whole of course there, there were many documentaries about it and they're not even allowed to say it in some schools there. so she has a lot of your being countries. they are the ones who are read lies about russia. and i think, i hope they, with this piece initiative from the us and russia. i hope you're of

a start to realize that they are on the wrong track. what i want to ask, i mean uh, we were talking, you probably hard with donald, you know about how this top of piece is ramping up every single day from trump, at least what he's saying, the message is clear, the one needs to end, but from europe from the u. k, we're hearing something completely different that completing an emergency meeting to deal with trumps time. so ukraine, they were insisting on supporting t as in the conflict, we had victor open saying brussels will try and scope any peel. why is it the europe specifically at this point in time, despite the writing on the waters, you mentioned doing everything it can to ensure that fighting continues to well, i think they still don't realize that there is now a different wind blowing into us. they are still in, despite, in most we can say the war amount. and a lot of you were being leaders like,

as from the nettle and sort of to this guy call us. they are so radicalized, you know, i mean, i don't like my clothes and he's saying in one sentence, ok, we have to deal with it. we have to, uh, you know, have 5 percent of defense budgets. but then the other hand to so ready to collide, they want the war. they still want to continue. and this was why? because i don't know sometimes i think maybe they've gone too far because you know, that has passed their own population over the years now of it is 3 years. so we are at russia. so, i mean, now that has to say, okay, no, we have to make peace. and of course the next blow is now the munich security conference that the us saying you are, the leaders are not supposed to be there. it's only ukraine, maybe ukraine, but at least the us and russian. so i think it's, they lost everything now list, they're ready to color session with their plans. and this is fairly hard to swallow for them for the do you think he mentioned that i mean keith kellogg thing us and

for it to ukraine and russia basically ruled out of the use participation in any negotiations? do you think that that will happen, or do you think that some help out managed to wrangle away in a foot into the tool just so it was not to lose face as well. it keeps, i'm 5050 percent. i mean, as i rhodes religious times before, i know my good, so he is a good talker. he is trying now to have the charm offensive. when prompted this for a few weeks already few months. he's trying of course to say, okay, we're you, we're binge. we should also negotiate when there is a piece process going on. so i don't know, i hope the u. s. administration will not fall for it, but yeah, on the other hand, i mean, okay, they are still in maine, so nato is still there. i mean,

maybe in the future we will see that nato will be able or maybe not to maybe yes, but i think when the trumpet ministration is going this way um, you know, gets their way then maybe it is. um, like they say they are speaking of about a european arby, some wanted some don't want it. and to have emergency meetings today and tomorrow about you know, you that you're a piece left also. but let's see and ways and especially about. yeah, well then you need to a secretary, general margret to how is fence, chum is going on. and i don't know, i can't cook not say that, but for the time being i think there is no chance for them because you know, there are rules out there have a shock to lies. when resorts in unix, when to speech from funds wasn't there. so that was a real shark. sonya finding a thing, i want to go take on the story, going back to a quiet carlos as was used. what lie do you think that she's lying when it comes to civilian death,

do you think it's ignorance or do you think she's so blinded by all? i do want to tell you, but she genuinely doesn't believe that ukrainian soldiers could kill civilians as well. in her case, i think it's the last one because you know, every body with human sense or common sense. they rearrange things. you're here things. you're also because they are close to brush at the border is not far. so, i mean, they who are things they, you should, you know, always think, okay, when there's a war going, there was 2 sides using that. and maybe i should go over and see what the russian start is saying. i was the russian side is doing. but like i said, and i wrote and will article about it, the bulls expect are very rest. yeah. i could know what to be described. it's not funny. it's they are ready to collect life since they got their independence from the coming this time. so if you have time and they do deal with their foss, they didn't deal with that. there are a lot of naps, who still there?

that's the eulogy who went on the ground during the communist time. so maybe she's still to me and dr. nice as this is, i think a lot of people, and this is maybe what's also the case in ukraine because we know to now. so i think this is the case with the voltage states and ukraine, right to my independent production, john left sonya of on the speaking to me. bad. thank you very much for time this sunday. sonya thank send the nice day bye. well let's finish up in the southern coax is a 2nd round of 13 to elect. the next president of the republic of a positive has been announced. not because none of the 5 candidates on today's initial ballot weren't able to show a majority. so preliminary results give patrick good about 46 percent of the boat, while his opponent tale behind with around 37 percent turn out was about to sit behind the reach an almost 69 percent over now, to ortiz, senior correspondent, broadcast you as well. the 1st round ease easier,

but there's going to be a 2nd round due to the fact that uh, not because of the mileage to uh, drive up to 50 percent the road. so there's going to be a 2nd round in about 2 weeks time, but i get this thing turned out to 90000 people. it may seem like a very, very small number. it is indeed it is. either the population of, of katia is less than $300000.00 people. it's so small states. and so this is a very recent 5 going on between the 2 front brothers, the 2 leading cabinets between the room. the 2nd round will be applied. you are a very passionate people in the veto. it's, it's been up and down in the opposing civil need isn't being the proves them to the most recent to where the president is full. i was just last year,

the selection, ease, ease, we all to mazda, who said for the election can be sure to make sure the you violations was fuse as possible. is that actual observers here? uh, people from, from all over the world, everything went uh, went smoothly and was very, very calm. then v v. observers, we by digital to what happy content about how the election when you go to somebody new when voting, each voter gets a step in their internal passport. and this is a guarantee that the same person cannot know twice if he or she wanted to. so falsification is ruled out a couple of things we have seen so far. excellent. people are organized and nothing extraordinary was happening. calm, quiet, the voting processes taking place in a very high level. i mean, in both aspects of technical and organizing. so i think that

everything is okay and the people of a patio and the possibility to choose freely and to hold freely tied you for the flooring system. so if you used to go against georgia for it depends of the people here submit this, protected to the off them off the back of the culture of, of, of the way of life. but for certain states, policies come from the people regarding the so called presidential elections that took place in the george and occupied break away region of up cause here on 15th of february 2025. we recall that the european union does not recognize the constitutional and legal framework in which they took place. ukraine does not recognize the sham elections and abuse them as part of russia's systematic efforts to legitimize the pro russian separatist regina and occupied georgia and territory

reinstatement. it's coming from the european union coming from from ukraine. just scott g is because they, they both of carried ways. they might have been, you know, diving, i'm election, but much has changed since in the european union. we've seen them cancel in romania until election because the cab does it, they didn't what was on will but need the privileges in ukraine. there's a president who form a president's the landscape whose time is fine, who denies any calls for elections and says, the pregnant people don't love elections still? well, i'm elected president. so sort of a few, you know, prize you reaction to these, these called the nations from the european union and from ukraine and b.