[000:00:00;00] the, the most go out in washington talk to pick them up, speak over the phone, over and key of the lens. he is coming to terms of the fact that he cannot as part of the, from the escape if the data will be in such a large mental wish to demonstrate united states to russia. i think, yes. so we, i don't very happy with it beyond this, but this is, this is live the interesting question. having bedrooms habitat this, we put trouble and peer tech. and judging from the statements coming out of the white house,

ukraine's bed to sunday took membership is over. as is as type of taking back and we'll start returning to ukraine's pre 2014 borders is an unrealistic object chasing this, illusionary goal will only prolonged war and caused more suffering. fighting continues and lift the p. how's the m 23 groove reported me and to the city of, to called through in the east, at this quite on the claims that it was on the government financial on the african union says it's time for colonial powers to pace with us. and reparations is one of many topics on the agenda if they were denied stations, but the summit only got an ad to sub off the fly from most guy the saw the international well on sunday is we give our run down

of the weeks big story as possible the latest updates to welcome well getting us started our top story of the full yes. of the white house. stone warning with donald trump back from your office that now seems to accent to play with a seal. so back rushes foreign minister has spoken with his us counterpart over the phone, and apparently washington's initiative ought to use donor quartet tools us through what we know. well, definitely looks like the lines of communication between moscow and washington had become more and more active with this call from the us secretary of state, marco rubio to russia's foreign minister, served a lab problem. they discussed a wide range of topics specifically kind of rolling back the restrictions on russia's diplomatic missions to the united states that were established under the obama administration. and also how to take steps towards resolving the middle east and ukraine conflicts. and on top of that, both of these officials also discussed the organizing and in person meeting between

donald trump and black them are approved. and then they also said that they were happy that communication has been restored on a mutually respectful level. and that they're looking forward to more of it in the future. well, i mean, you did mention that this potential meeting right, coming up some of the saying and saudi arabia, between trump and peer to they have their own up phone conversation. i know that obviously people are probably quite vaulted about what was said, but have any tip is any highlights come out. well, of course uh this all started with this historic phone call, but donald trump had with vladimir putin earlier in the week on wednesday. and they finally broke the ice in russia. america relations after years of both of these powers, pretty much having no communication whatsoever. and according to the kremlin, this is a major signal that peace has become a priority at the motions. and now this is a powerful signal and we will now attempt to solve the problems through dialogue. we will talk about peace, not warranty. what was the situation with the previous administration?

so no dialogue shit more until the end. that was the initial was a little bit of a previous administration, right? another judging by president trump statements, we resolve problems to dialogue. no more. we need a piece of this as ition should appeal more to any recent person or say to deal a temp also gave his 2 cents on his own phone call with a lot of air poles and saying that it was highly productive any later told journalists some things that hasn't gone that haven't gone down very well. and ukraine because he and his defense secretary are essentially saying no to ukrainian membership in nato and no to ukraine's pre 2014 borders. secretary defense who is excellent. be made a statement today saying that he thinks is unlikely or impractical. i think probably that's true. i think long before president button, as i said, there's no way that allow that this has been going on for many, many years. and they've been saying that for a long time, that ukraine can not go into nato then. and i'm,

and i'm ok with that. i just want the word whether they are there or not. but i, it certainly would seem to be that most people have said that, that is something that's not gonna work. well, i think pete said today that that's unlikely, right? we must start by recognizing that returning to ukraine's pre 2014 borders is an unrealistic objective, is chasing this. illusionary goal will only prolong the war and cause more suffering. it certainly would seem to be unlikely. they took a lot of land and they fought for that land and they lost a lot of uh they lost a lot of soldiers, but it would just seem to be and i'm not, i'm not making an opinion on it, but i read a lot on it. and lot of people think that, that sort of likely with statements like that, you can probably imagine how worried zalinski is about to have me having or not having a significant place at the negotiating table. because despite trump saying that he had a conversation with the wednesday,

right after this phone call with platinum or putting it seems like the positions with the adult, moscow, and washington, or that they're not very confident games. the wednesdays authority and legitimacy as a leader. 82 today i, i am interesting question. i think they have to make peace that people have been killed and i think they have to make peace. your i showed that was not a good way to go into and i think they have to make peace. that's what i think the last, you know, i don't think so as long as he's there. but you know, at some point you're gonna have to have elections to, you're gonna have to have it. i just keep you to go to more just skimming. you can negotiate with anyone, but zalinski is the legitimate, he has no right to sign anything. but if he wants to take part in the negotiations, i will send people who will conduct these negotiations. the issue is the final signing of the documents. this is

a very serious issue that should guarantee security for you, crane and russia with a serious long term and historical perspective to. i mean, we definitely seem to be getting the impression that took place. i mean, we're reading about it on a daily with hourly basis now. uh, are we on the verge of finalizing dates, times locations, the summit, so deals, whatever else? while the kremlin spokes person to meet your passcode did invite trump to russia whenever you want it to come, but according to media reports, the most likely place right now where a would be meeting between vladimir putin and donald trump would take place is saudi arabia and this is a place that donald trump had suggested before, but from us outside we haven't heard any come confirmation about that yet. now is zaleski did chime in on all this is expressed as concerns about being sidelined and any. so any sort of negotiations that are going to take place. and he also said that he was concerned about the friendly nature of communication between russia and

the united states. and so not right now, if the data will be in such a polite mental wish. now that demonstrate united states to ration i think yes, so we're not very happy with it. be honest, but this is, this is live us out singly enough. bloomberg is now reporting that the us special envoy for ukraine talks taught keith kellogg has been left out of the american negotiating team. instead, they apparently planned to send the us as envoy to the middle east. they're the same official who organized the recent high profile prisoner swap between russia and the united states. so we've only got media reports right now. we're gonna have to see how this plays out in terms of a time place and who's going to be there. what donald trump picking up the phone to pulls, not it may have pitch and has rattled politicians over in europe. and that was even before b. u. s. a. v p took to the power to him up the unix, secure to conference. gigi volumes that criticized the in years war mongering,

stones, and slammed. it's cracked down on free speech, leaving the audience slightly at a loss for words on the tub. so it was out that's the same as the end. the slot him is the lensky in coverage. brussels to build its own army and then to pull it, do you create? the group has to become self sufficient, united by common strands, ukrainian, and european. if not to us, then we'll stop them hide really. i really believe the time has come. the forces of your must be created. it's a really interesting cool. you cray, not a member of the european union? and yet he was saying essentially york needs its own on the, i mean this is something we've heard before from the european need is present back on the fonts particularly codes, but they so, but the last few years. um, but of course in you, this is an incredibly contentious issue and in fact,

many does the see europe in ami a tool, including germany's own talents, left off shots. he says it's a big fat. no, to clean now has nearly 1000000 soldiers on the weapons. if you count altogether that are relevant for the better future that they, while eclipse park would be better, but they are really eclipse by a bus them, munitions and all the, all the kind. and because of this, it's absolutely clear that the postwar you clean would have a very strong army. well, however, there all those in europe who uh, try to be likely to grill bold with this idea of having a european no, i mean this includes the polish for administer. who is essentially said the european troops to be needed to be sent to you, craig, and he didn't say nato troops. he said, european troops,

when president trump says that as part of a deal, they will have to be repealed and troops will have to be asked to, to supply them. so, sooner or later we'll have to be involved basic bags. a huge question. does europe have the ability to do something like that? we know and subject a 2 decades? it was massive and dis spending when it came to defense budgets. in fact, from, during his last presidency, he famously came to europe and said, hey guys, you need to start spending more in nature in terms of defend spending, or we're not going to be the ones to protect you any more. so yes, we've seen an increase in defense funding by european countries in the last 2 years, but that is not enough to make up those decades of under spending. and in addition to that, over the last few years, you think about the amount of ministry hardware that is being sent to you create the as the listed, the ability of european countries for essentially defend themselves. and they're shoot studies talking about how essentially the cupboards all back in europe as

a result of what's being sent to you quite. and so is it likely that you can do this? i think many people would say, probably not when it comes to charlotte to piece talks, but from putting call on everything else that's come. since they're there has, in my sense being denied porting of optimism surrounding it. but it appears not everyone is willing to get run the table. it was really interesting news. we've heard as lensky saying at the meaning security conference, but he will only speak to press a pretend he won't speak to anybody else from the russian delegation. it will only be present preaching. well that is a massive 180 degree to and from what we've heard of the last few years where he's point blank, refused to speak to the russian prices. in fact, outflow ring talks with russia. is he going to be able to even get back to negotiating tables to really interesting to see where he's now coming from? it feels as if every day, perhaps, even every hour. we getting a very different sense. if west loved him is lensky is coming from and probably

a lot to that is to do with the out right. panic that we have seen from him. i since these a flurry of announcements to be coming from the trunk administration. what's also really interesting is here with the munich security conference. he's also been trying to, i'm the division between the us and you are percent you go, we all will look, you know, usaa leaving this out of this europe. let's do it together because he was point blank. say, you know, when present from cools me about this possible negotiation. he was sideline and not just ukraine. he was side lining you're up to moscow will pull. you are part of the if we as europeans, don't trust each other. a few days ago, president tom told being about, he's going to the station was put in not the ones the to mention that the american needs you're at the table put in was one on one thoughts with

america. just like before, the war when they met in switzerland and it looked like to call them up the world next put in. we'll try to get the u. s. president. standing on the red square on main, on may 9th. these here. not as a respected later, but as a pro, in his own performance. so as the, let's see, they're essentially saying that pitching is going to be using trump is essentially a barrier net profit. but the us doesn't seem to give much of a carrier about this. we've now heard from the us special envoy chief kellogg. this is the guy that is going to try and put together this end to the war in ukraine and he's 10, ron, he's gone yet. you're not going to be at the table in general. they should not even complain device it. can you can your show this audience the ukrainians will be at the table and europeans will be at the table. oh,

are you just change the whole dynamic? pardon or victor, thanks for having us today. i appreciate the answer that last question, just you framed it? the answer is no. the answer to the earlier part of the questions. yes, of course you can use are going to be at the table. interestingly, we have a goal these over chose about negotiations, possible thoughts inside your review in the next few weeks. but at the same time, we've now had a statement coming up from the g 74 and municipal. they say they will read the looking at during up more sanctions to throw it against most skokie. if most go doesn't come to the negotiating table and do a deal. interestingly, bonus 3 is of sanctions hating russia. and rupture seems to be of no much strong composition that it was back then. so the reality is, after 3 is the sanctions not having the desired outcome. what makes the g 7 think? but, and this thing was gonna change that right now. we'll have

a 2 central africa report, so say the minutes in group and 23 has taken over the city over to call. so that's in the east. and do you all see what i want to cross live now to our correspondence or not? if we couldn't go, i mean, these are, the situation seems to false be developing. we know that they took go law people for all the going to go father. now we're hearing news reports about the corporate is to take us through the late to what do we know at this stage the as well. so scale, what we do know is that a k us is adopting in eastern colors because as the in to the 35 to reach the city center, you would remember that for the past few days to enter the city has been pushing towards because which is the 2nd largest city in easton, d. i see. and that, of course, often they seized my at the end of january, and i must tell you,

this whole situation has changed to the match off was because the con, the least armed forces return to become one set to the evenings following the unexpected. we're told of game trinity city fights is from the 16th, less than 24 hours off the cafeteria. it's on friday. but when m. 235 does lift because of yesterday it to me until the width of that was a tactical retreat or part of a negotiated withdrawal. in fact, the sudden departure of getting treaty 3, they eased speculation about with the they were v, grouping elsewhere. and the diplomatic pressure, oh would they preparing for yet another offensive? we do know that because of what has been preparing for an m 20 city offensive several days now shutting down schools. in fact, that was last week friday as residents also began to sleep, except also closing the fee is often imminent attack ad right now,

reports tell us that it is the m $23.00 spokesperson. we didn't go mass who has told me that the group was indeed in the city the spokesperson has also been posted on x for the past few, i was saying all of this is so that the population of because we can breathe the a off of a lucian, the it also the ration and z a also freedom, but the company's president's office has a different perspective. have a listen to this of the town of because to briefly over run by m 23 terrorist is now under the control of the congolese army. and the valiant was a lender and acts of the munich security conference. the see president felix use a k to call for one that to be sanctioned, of choosing one to off having expansionist emissions. in fact,

the present is also seeking come to business against the one the for the escalation of the conflict in the eastern congo. at the same time, one does defense minister, mary's wound used his intervention at the security conference to reject those accusations that to the one that is involved in the stabilizing rather the stabilizing that the seats have addition to this, they saw you wonder for one that has conducted this kind of publication for years that has been no measures taken to protect the integrity of the democratic republic of the congo. this unfortunately raises a risk of creating a precedent and inspiring other countries to do the same thing. your classes, me, if i'm the i see is turned in for all of us and the reason one that has been heavily affected, we've device the thing, human body to call in the economic consequences over crisis. however,

one of the things to get from an unmistakable data, you know, so yeah, well, different magic changes between the one to add the d r c. continue to rise regional and international act is increasingly under pressure to become a lost in peace because already the conflict underway has killed nearly 3000 people in eastern congo and has i'm strand of hundreds of thousands of people, at least 23005350000 people are in to be displaced at the moment without shelter adding to the almost 7000000 people that already internally displaced in that region. you and secretary general antonio quartet is, has urged a full dialogue between the warring parties in a speech at the african union over this weekend. but we do know

that to do come to these present. felix just acadia has repeatedly refused to to, to be in 2 different qual, daphne seems that the african union will have a note on the agenda, like you said, as they meet that was all to correspond to notify or cannot bring us up to date on very latest developments trumpeting over in the d. c. thank you. this is will speaking of the african union, it's time to roll the injustices of the paul's thoughts. the message caught me from the group as it launches a platform to seek reparations from former colonialist powers. speaking up the subject, some of those people can always ation, which kicked off in the field can capsule yesterday. but again, president said this cause of exportation on say free us still felt obese. that keeps on the transatlantic slave trade was one of the most heinous crimes against humanity. it spanned approximately 400 years and forcibly displacing more than 12500000 africans. it is estimated that at least $2000000.00 of our compatriots

perished during the middle passage alone. the legacy of this brutal system along with colonialism, apartheid genocide and neo colonial exploitation, has left deep and enduring scars on the fabric of our societies. we must continue to advocate for stronger legal and institutional mechanisms to ensure that justice for the historical trauma inflicted on global africa is not just a conversation, but a reality. mohammed to that exploitation has called the continent trillions of dollars in material under human resources. also highlighting the colonial policies sold africa's industrial development leading to dependence on external funding on technology. when he was that good by the summits, her speech therapy and p. m, he said reparations, which is the 1st step in achieving a historic justice. the demand for the publishes is not about charlotte or financial aid. it is

a call for justice. it's $63.00 story degree, the degree of millions and the him, the deepest costs of poverty and equality and discrimination to the demands and to the system. i think exploitation overwhelms the sources and opportunities. it also costs for drugs, for monthly process that i can go to the past problems and fix motor steps, right? the wrong disposable. now it's up on society across the continents as cost wise. now it's the exact effects to of the african, like a st foundation. we saw in for him, always great to have you on the program, usa. i'm the 1st thing i want to ask you, how significant do you see it, where we're coming to a point one. now, the african union or calls it is a power house of the continent on globally in the south, especially,

is coming together and saying the time is 9, it is time to pay for your sins. is this the 1st step towards something historic to think? i would say this is more of a continuation of the efforts by africans for justice historic of justice. what is a special about 2 days step of the african union is that it seeks to give a more structure and customized approach to the close. let's remember that the, for this type of profile had a 3 chemist. approximation for the demand for regulations took place in 1993 that long ago in a bullshit made g. a conference that was initiated by the libyan de la my get duffy, who proposed to the us the community organization,

the organization that received the african union. and own us the kind of countries at that time sign that the nation as a jew to the weakness of the organization. definitely can you do nothing. came out with recently because of the rise of the pollution and the governments in africa and the rise of us the can because the notion ready i split it's people have been demanding to go back to the as boucher vocalization of 1993. and people actually have the of the proposal as i get duffy in 1999 that was completed in 1999, which actually even gave a very fixed estimation of a duration. and the figure was $777.00, trillions of dollars for the whole of the after the con, confident i want to ask you to king about of the see those who would be paying the

reparations. i mean, back a few years ago, 2019 trump said quote, i don't see it happening on recently we had from the british prime minister test on the and he said no, no, no, i don't think reparations of the way to go. i dropped the roll up my sleeves and sort of walk on the form i purchased dominions and look at the future. do you think this refusal to acknowledge all the c compensate will affect these nations relations with the continent moving forward? no doubt about vis africa is not the same old tires and stuff mister compton on that a weed experience. and with this for decades, africa is rising sobs. and now the voice of change on existence is the loud in the continuing. could choose to be just the voice of the voice of na,

sort of egypt or a, been built out judy on the bumper, off the congo or the chrome. i've gotten up, you know, a few good leaders from around the continent. however, that now it's much more wide spread. if the product but grass, what's moving to this? i believe we push, i think on government, even those governments that see themselves as in the mid them as not as they've been doing so many even comes up at the even pro, less than in some cases as we bush didn't because of this new spit out to basically apply and respond to this at a fuse and by the west to pay depressions by may be straining comic relations ash threatening diplomatic relations. and i think that being this will do a cool break with the west in the field of security. uh oh. my take, uh, you know, working together in many front cover it as an illegal immigration and many of the

cases and causes that on the continuum to, you know, when we talk obviously about colonialism, africa does one nation which dissolves a particular mention that is from, i'm not sure, i was speaking to one of our correspondents and i'll assist you on while 2 fronts and you said, you know, i can't remember the last time my chrome went to an african city. i didn't say something offensive. and i'm of, we have a right from macro, no fonts how they didn't hit and africa. do you think that he genuinely believes, thought or do you feel that he has to try and protect the legacy of the great, civilized power? well that is a direct, i'm in direct even deep logic for he's position the next one. of course, if he admits in your ongoing gun from since going on in history of the atrocities committed by his country and africa, then they would have to think about reparations and compensations. which of course,

would not be, you know, something get at these items by the french. but the deep insight record. the reason is that any admissions skills will change the political equation. and when i make the voice of free, but notion enough, because even higher and people when you know what do you live even more that's yes . from brent in italy, even gen many states, they has an ugly history in the continent. and it's very hard to build a new relationship with it without changing things structured. and i really would like to stress the word structure because it's not just about paying money back to us because it's about changing the more that uses the banking system, the way the natural resources of us, we to artic supply them by the west. the security of the nation at western army

extended last week at the french troops out of state. in some places, the american us become still terminate, some process the consuming. so the method is much more feedback on just painting money back to us because we need a change of relationship. and that's what my cro trump i'm the other fee is the change of the balance of power. well, such as new. when you look at organizations, light brakes, you see that change and the balance of power. it's definitely exciting. historic times the many in the global south was abraham executive, secretary of the african lex foundation. thank you very much for your time. i thank you. second, i just the by floss in the studio, we'll see what the top the