[000:00:00;00] the, the most common washington is talking different, not speak, go to the phone, other the in kids, the labs is coming to terms of the fact the piece known as far adults are trying to escape if the data will be in such a large menu, which now demonstrate united states to gresham? i think yes. so we, i don't very happy with it. to be honest, but this is, this is like the interesting question. having the test to test this week, the trump and clear 10, judging from statements coming out for white house ukraine's bench. prenatal

membership is a positive hope that takes us back and he loves the parent training. returning to ukraine's pre 2014 borders is an unrealistic objective. chasing this, illusionary goal will only prolong the war and cause more suffering. pull this aside, european leaders into panic mode, desperately st. king, a way to be included in the piece, told us as a member of the trump teams, as the one half of feed stops and negotiate to take. can you, can you a show this audience the ukrainians will be at the table? and europeans will be at the table. the answer that last question, just you framed it? the answer is no. sound fighting continues and that they all seem as the i'm 23 minutes in grand for both of you. and to is one of the countries largest cities to cover puts,

despite the audio planes that the area was on to come from the the hello and welcome talk to me. why on sundays we give a round up of the top stores. we covered up to the last 7 days, but also it gives you the very latest updates. i mean, i'm going to start with some of that some breaking news on people in ukraine. donald trump special and voice steve witt coff has said a us delegation is leaving for saturated today. sunday for talks with russian representatives. now it's thought that it could be on out details for a meeting between the us president on sort of a pigeon selves in the coming weeks. most go has yet to call it. but of course, because we will be bring you all of that. one of the big story of the day off the full, he is of the white house, the stone warning with the donald trump back in you. it's an office. it now seems that talks and diplomacy often and so back rushes for administer has spoken with

his us counterpart over the phone, apparently out of washington's initiative. all teased on quarter towards us through what we to definitely looks like the lines of communication between moscow and washington had become more and more active with this call from the us secretary of state, marco rubio to rushes for administer, sir day lab problem. they discussed a wide range of topics specifically kind of rolling back the restrictions on russia's diplomatic missions to the united states that were established under the obama administration. and also how to take steps towards resolving the middle east and ukraine conflicts. and on top of that, both of these officials also discussed the organizing, an in person meeting between donald trump and black them are approved. and then they also said that they were happy that communication has been restored on a mutually respectful level. and that they're looking forward to more of it in the future. well, i mean, you did mention that this potential meeting right, coming up some of the saying and saudi arabia, between trump and peer to they have their own phone conversation. i know that

obviously people are probably quite vaulted about what was said, but have any tips any highlights come out? well, of course uh this all started with this historic phone call, but donald trump had with vladimir putin earlier in the week on wednesday. and they finally broke the ice in russia. america relations after years of both of these powers, pretty much having no communication whatsoever. and according to the kremlin, this is a major signal that piece has become a priority at the mostly say. now this is a powerful signal and we will now attempt to solve the problems through dialogue. we will talk about peace, not warranty. what was the situation with the previous administration? so no dialogue should more until the end. that was the initial was a little bit of a previous administration, right? another judging by president trump statements, we resolve problems through dialogue. no more. we need a piece of this as ition should appeal more to any recent person or say to do a trip also gave his $0.02 on his own phone call with lot of miracles and saying

that it was highly productive any later told journalists some things that hasn't gone that haven't gone down very well. and ukraine because he and his defense secretary are essentially saying no to ukrainian membership in nato and no to ukraine's pre 2014 borders. secretary defense who is excellent. be made a statement today saying that he thinks is unlikely or impractical. i think probably that's true. i think long before president button, as i said, there's no way that allow that this has been going on for many, many years. and they've been saying that for a long time, that you crank and not go into nato then, and i'm, and i'm ok with that. i just want the word whether they are there or not. but i, it certainly would seem to be that most people have said that, that is something that's not gonna work. well, i think pete said today that that's unlikely, right?

we must start by recognizing that returning to ukraine's pre 2014 borders is an unrealistic objective, is chasing this. illusionary goal will only prolong the war and cause more suffering. it certainly would seem to be unlikely. they took a lot of land and they fought for that land and they lost a lot of uh they lost a lot of soldiers, but it would just seem to be and i'm not, i'm not making an opinion on it, but i read a lot on it. and lot of people think that, that sort of likely statements like that. you could probably imagine how worried zalinski is about to have me having or not having a significant place within negotiate in table. because despite trump saying that he had a conversation with the once the right after this phone call with platinum or putting it seems like the positions with the adult, moscow, and washington, or that they're not very confident games the lunch, these authority and legitimacy as a leader 80 to you i'm

interested in question. i think they have to make peace that people are being killed and i think they have to make peace. we showed that was not a good war to go into and i think they have to make peace. that's what i think you know, i don't think so as long as he's there. but you know, at some point you're gonna have to have elections to. you're gonna have to have it . i can just keep you to go to most of the skin, which you can negotiate with anyone, but zalinski is the legitimate he has no right to sign anything. but if he wants to take part in the negotiations, i will send people who will conduct things, negotiations. the issue is the final signing of the documents. this is a very serious issue that should guarantee security for ukraine and russia with a serious long term it into a store called perspective. i mean, we definitely seem to be getting the impression that took place. i mean, we're reading about it on a daily with hourly basis. now. we on the verge of finalizing dates,

times locations the summit, so deals, whatever else, while the crumbling spokes person to meet your pass code did invite from to russia whenever you want it to come. but according to media reports, the most likely place right now where a would be meeting between vladimir putin and donald trump would take place is saudi arabia. and this is a place that donald trump had suggested before, but from us outside, we haven't heard any come confirmation about that yet. now is lensky to chime in on all this is expressed as concerns about being sidelined and any. so any sort of negotiations that are going to take place. and he also said that he was concerned about the friendly nature of communication between russia in the united states as going on right now. if the data will be inside supply demand, which now demonstrates united states to ration i think, yes. so we're not very happy with it. be honest, but this is, this is live out singly enough. bloomberg is now reporting that the us special

envoy for ukraine talks, talk chief catalog, has been left out of the american negotiating team. instead they apparently plan to send the us as envoy to the middle east. they're the same official who organized the recent high profile prisoner swap between russia and the united states. so we've only got media reports right now. we're gonna have to see how this plays out in terms of the time place and who's going to be there. donald trump picking up the phone to cool lot of my parents and has a rattled politicians are but in europe. and that was even before the us be paid, took to the podium at the munich security conference. while the j. d fonts criticized the use one long during stops and slammed. it's cracked down on free speech. leaping the audience slightly. i don't know for what's on the tab. those are the same event. does the landscaping cards brussels to build it so not me. on deploy it to ukraine, has to become self sufficient, united by common strands,

ukrainian, and european. if not to us, then we'll stop them. i really, i really believe that time has come. the forces of your must be created it's. it's a really interesting cool. you quite not a member of your opinion and yet you saying essentially europe needs its own all me . i mean, this is something we've heard before from the european need is present back on the fonts, particularly cold weather. so, but the last few years um, but of course in you, this is an incredibly contentious issue. and in fact, many dis, the, we'll see europe in on the a tool including germany's own. it's called slab, all of schultz. he says it's a big fat. no to clean now has nearly 1000000 soldiers on the weapons. if you count altogether that are relevant for the better future that they, while eclipse park would be better, but they are really eclipse by a bus them,

munitions, and all the, all the kind. and because of this steps absolutely clear that the post slow you cream would have a very strong army. well, however, there are all those in europe who uh, preferably likely to grill bold with this idea of having a european. oh, i mean this includes the polish for administer. who is essentially said that europe in troops will be needed to be sent to you crate. and he didn't say nato troops. he said, europe in troops. when president trump says that as part of a deal, they will have to be repealed and troops well will have to be asked to, to supply them. so, sooner or later, we'll have to be involved. this begs a huge question. does europe have the ability to do something like that? we know for decades and decades that was massive and the spending when it came to defense budgets. in fact, from, during his last presidency,

he famously came to europe and said, hey guys, you need to stop spending more in nature in terms of defend spending, or we're not going to be the ones to protect you any more. so yes, we've seen an increase in defense funding by european countries in the last few years, but that is not enough to make up those decades of under spending. and in addition to that, over the last few years, you think about the amount of industry hardware that is being sent to you create the as the listed, the ability of european countries for essentially defend themselves. and they're huge studies talking about how essentially the cupboards all back in europe as a result of what's being sent to you quite. and so is it likely that you can do this? i think many people would say, probably not when it comes to charlotte to piece talks that from putting call and everything else that's come, since they're there has, in my sense being that i porting of optimism surrounding it. but it appears not everyone is willing to get run the table. it was really interesting news. we've

heard as lensky saying at the munich security conference, but he will only speak to press a pretend he won't speak to any to the else. it's not the russian delegation, it will only be present preaching. well, that is a massive 180 degree to and from what we've heard over the last few years where he's point blank, refused to speak to the russian prices. in fact, outlawing tulips with russia. is he going to be able to even get back to negotiating tables to really interesting to see where he's now coming from? it feels as if every day, perhaps, even every hour. we getting a very different sense. if we have loved him, is lensky is coming from and probably a lot to that is to do with the right panic that we have seen from him. i since these a flurry of announcements to be coming from the trunk administration. what's also really interesting is here with the munich security conference, he's also been trying to put the division between the us and europe, essentially go over, look, you know, usaa leaving this out as this europe. let's do it together because he was point

blank. say, you know, when present from cools me about this possible negotiation. he was sideline in, not just ukraine. he was side learning europe too. so as a lot of skewed they're essentially saying that pitching is going to be using trump is essentially a barrier net profit. but the us doesn't seem to give much of a care about this. we've not heard from the us special envoy keith kellogg. this is the guy that is going to try and put together this end to the war in ukraine. and he's 10, ron, he's gone yet. you're not going to be at the table in general. they should not even complain device it. can you can your show this audience, the ukrainians will be at the table and europeans will be at the table. where you just change the whole dynamic. pardon or victor, thanks for having us today. i appreciate the answer that last question. just you framed it? the answer is no. or the answer to the earlier part of the questions. yes,

of course you can use are going to be at the table. interestingly, we have a goal these over chose about negotiations possible to in saudi arabia in the next few weeks. but at the same time, we've now had a statement coming up from the g 74 and municipal. they say they will read the looking at during up more functions to throw it against most scope. if most go doesn't come to the negotiating table and do a deal. interestingly, bonus, 3 is of sanctions hating russia and russia seems to be of no much strong composition that it was back then. so the reality is, after 3 is the sanctions not having the desired outcome. what makes the g 7 think but, and this thing is going to change that right now. what's the phone tag? okay, reach out for breaking news. the ssl is so donald trump, the special envoy to ukraine, that steve witt coffee, has said that the us delegation is leaving today. sunday, the saudi arabia. i'm not the talks with the russian representatives. apparently,

the 1st stage will focus on building trust with most go bought. it is full, but ultimately this to paved the way for meeting between us present and it's not him appear to some reports. he can say at the very end of this month, february, most though has yet to to come up. but of course we will be following us to will bring you any updates when they come in. the ukraine up is to be moving forward with plans to upgrade a new to the power plant. the surgery of the facility is report to be set to receive to russian react is purchased from a subs country both area. the project also said to involve the us industrial manufacturer, westinghouse, or t correspondent, honest if you have an option that has the store sam and yours. this is a grandiose project and i am not afraid of that. would the 1st steps have been taken? you know that we 7 co operation with the russians due to a cooperation with you that was with westinghouse before the full scale invasion.

we are completely independent today. safely and dependents proudly free of russian influence and hugh crazed energy sector and safe hands, new react to small power and a bolt promise. europe's largest move here, pont built without russia in the picture. because who needs that drama? but there's a catch the goods ro, rent and polanski self praise, the reactive or symbol gary. yep. that russian. but the real savior. westinghouse, america's helping hand, graciously extended. and if you've never heard about westinghouse before preparing yourself for some mind blowing, fox, you will forget just a couple of days ago, keys agreed the patches of russians. we asked us for the communities. can you club house along with you craning and peas scratching that has upon them as approval of the move? well, you are for i q stand some. and so you, for the authorities have launched the great atomic stuffed and spent $1000000000.00

on a russian reactor. now tens of billions of dollars will go to bulgaria, to buy russian reactors to raise tariffs for you. and the entire population. $261.00 voted for the council supports the purchase of russian equipment for the component ski nuclear power plant. it is planned to spend half a 1000000000 euros on this. it's kind of surreal. spending money on russian reactors during the war just a few years ago. ukraine. what's the time and to date survey era reactors in favor of west and alternative phosphor today on the plan isn't quite planning out. on his why. back in 2021. ukraine state nuclear enterprise and that the item. and he, wes, me, play a power company westinghouse signed agreements to install a man can designed a 1000 reactors. and this many needs, can you clip how blonde and move k if we're seriously proud of the agreement, signed with partners from westinghouse, opens a new stage and the development of ukraine's nuclear energy sector construction of

new power units as a central for energy independence of our country, moreover, we are becoming the driving force that will pay the way for europe to carbon neutrality. enter go, adam and cooperation with our american partners is ready to make the green transition to clean and affordable energy. but that's most of the story. the me see, i and here's the twist. the same here. ukraine science corporation agreements with westinghouse, full of the company's top level executives had already been sentenced. fulford in fox to nuclear, react to the fun was building and south carolina will never completed. as construction problems mounted costs rose and schedule slipped, and defendants hid the truth status of the project. the defendants misrepresentations and the emissions as well as the associated cover up resulted in billions of dollars in losses to scan a rate payers and investors. what happens?

well, in 2008 to us companies, sante prefab, an s, c, and g launched a nuclear project using a all 1000 reactors designed as sold by westinghouse. but delays and over spending nearly doubled the projects budget to ne, a. $23000000000.00. by 2017. the plan was scrapped on westinghouse, filed for bankruptcy, westinghouse filed for chapter 11, bankruptcy protection with us courts in march 2017. to enable it to undergo strategic restructuring, the filing affected only it's us operations, which included projects to construct for a p $1000.00 reactors at 2 sides bottle in georgia and v. c summer in south carolina. release documents review that s c and c, and santa key about well while aware that the venture was deemed to fail due to mismanagement. luckily, oversight on major flows old that was years before westinghouse filed for

bankruptcy and police companies pulled out of the project. despite the former us nuclear regulatory commission, chad men say they could charge cost a month for the failed project anyway. but none of this seemed to face skiff with the head of the cranes and the item, inking a member on the most corporation with westinghouse a c o, accelerating the completion of unit full of stuff, minutes can you clear power plant? the complete set of parts for the reactor island is available. we will be able to significantly reduce the construction time of camille netscape, for as we do not need to spend time on the production of this equipment that same here ukraine's, and that the actual release factors of cotton inspection components in the south carolina warehouse where the 81000 project was abundant back in 2017 fast forward to 2023. and that the item on westinghouse strike a deal for the needs coupon unit 5. using technology originally built for the never completed complex in south carolina, say we act as the same student, gender,

braces, justin, you location something here. once again, go very excited about. such reactors did not exist in ukraine. they do not exist in the post soviet space and they do not yet exist in europe. this is one of the most advanced technologies in nuclear energy making it possible to maintain the safety systems of nuclear plants, even in the vento blackouts, in the absence of diesel generators or other power systems. according to what 2020 spectrum and deal sante cooper, uninstalled parts intended for the south carolina pound, which could be re used for future projects. while westinghouse handled sales and marketing, splitting the profits. but corruption wasn't just driving at westinghouse in the west. it was initially taking root in ukraine. the had overnighted, the item faced a corruption scandal, one his mother in law at a time of war and having no official income for to luxury prophecy and multiple

plots of land nikia. but despite the shady allegations, the cabinet of ministers still appointed him acting head open that the items board even ukraine, state nuclear regulatory inspector has got involved with a former board member accusing westinghouse of supply raw stint equipment for the project. i would like to note that the equipment is being purchased, but there is still no feasibility study for the a r, a 1000 project that camille needs the nuclear power plant. in other words, there are no legal grounds to buy expensive equipment now. but the management of enter go out them and the ministry of energy do not pay attention to these trifles . so what are we left with ukraine signed to do, to buy rusty equipment from we bankrupt to us the early for it to likely never show up. now kia was trying to russian, we asked us to complete construction of this nuclear font. despite z is of course, to drop soviet technology of russia, state atomic energy corporation. summarize the situation. look,

honestly. i think this is a very good advertisement of russian technologies. it appears like ukraine's efforts to distance itself from it's. silvia paused and everything russian is proving tougher than anticipated. while tearing down learning statutes and rename the streets is straightforward. for yoga noise in industry is a far bigger challenge. and it seems that a matter how seriously ukraine attempts to break free from the soviet post, it invariably finds itself coming back to square one. whatever to central africa pulled say that the medicine group, m, 23 has taken over. one of the deal sees largest cities that to call to and it's in the east of the country. locals desperately hope the piece will be bestowed. if i secrecy, we don't know what's happening. there are bullets everywhere. we don't know whether it's m 23 or 4 d. c forces. really we all stressed. it's not going well

a tool like any. in truth, the enemy is not in town, but people have lost a lot of things. they burned the could do to market installed. everything else is wrapped in eastern colors because the m 235 has read the city center you what you mean, but that for the past few days, the entering the city has been pushing towards because of which is the 2nd largest city in the eastern d c, and that, of course, off to the seas for my at the end of january. and i must tell you, this whole situation has changed in a matter of hours because the comedies on forces return, simple covered set to the evenings following the unexpected withdrawal in between the city fighters from the city less than 24 hours of the capturing. it's on friday, but when m 235 to lift because we yesterday it to me unfit with a that was a tactical retreat or part of a negotiated withdrawal. in fact, the sudden departure of him to the city amazed speculation about with the

regrouping elsewhere and the diplomatic pressure. oh, with that they were preparing for get another offensive. we do know that because who has been preparing for an empty city offensive for several days, no shot to schools on friday, as residents began to flee, which swaps also closing over. fee is often imminent attack. and right now, reports tell us that it is the game to the city, spoke space, and we didn't go much who has told a media that the group was indeed in the city the spokesperson has also been posting on x. the pos for you all was saying that all of this is back to the population of will come from, can breed v a offer for lucian, the a officer position and the a a freedom. but the company's president's office has a different perspective. have a listen to this, the town of because the briefly over run by m 23 terrace is now under the control of the congolese ami, and the valiant was a lender, and that the munich security conference,

the see president felix to security code for one the to be sentient of choosing the country of having expansionist emissions. in fact, the president a see can come to me is a, is the one to, for the escalation in the eastern d. c. at the same time or one does defense minister matters more than that. i used his intervention at the security conference to received accusations that, to the one that is involved in the stabilizing the d. i. c. have a listen to this, this on you one, the one that has conducted this kind of publication for years that has been no measures taken to protect the integrity of the democratic republic of the congo. this unfortunately raises a risk of creating a precedent, uninspiring other countries to do the same thing. your classes in the data see, is turned in for all of us. and the reason one that has been heavily affected, we've device the thing,

human body to call it and the economic consequences of the crisis. it was the good for me and understood both the honesty, well diplomatic cases between the one, the and the, the us to continue to rise regional and international active. on increasing the under pressure to broke a law student piece. already the conflict and the way has killed nearly 3000 people in eastern congo, and the stranded hundreds of thousands of displaced at least to 350000, internally displaced rudolph shelter. adding to the almost 7000000 people already internally displaced in the region. we heard you in citrix, you general antonio terry's the gene dialogue between the warring parties in a speech ad and asked to continue new summit over this weekend. but we do know that congress present felix to security,

has repeatedly refused to talk directly to the into the city hall before we go away, remind 12 operates news. so a us delegation is nathan made. this is a sunday cell to rafia. why? well, in order to hold folks with russian representatives and it is the 1st such high level meeting between the countries in yes, the news was confirmed by donald trump special envoy to you, praying that steve went calls and a said to be aimed at quote, building trust with laska, i don't want to talk too much about the ad ins. specifically, maria, but i am going to night i'll be traveling there. ready the national security advisor, and we'll be having meetings at the direction of the president and hopefully we'll, we'll, we'll make some really good progress with regard to russia. ukraine. well, we'll definitely be bringing you more thought in the coming as hope you all correspond to. it won't be joining us in the studio, but it will not be me in the hot seat at the top. it will be mike of much acid joined

the hello and welcome to was a part throughout history. humanity has tried many times to solve problems by means that have not only exacerbated the preexisting challenges, but also create as much bigger ones, taking nuclear weapons, for example, borne out of the need for security. they come with the risk of total elation. my guess today argues that our efforts to deal with climate change fall into a similar pattern as times doing more harm than good. why is it so difficult to