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a, we get strange comments from trump where policy doesn't match is comments off the cuff. and he says things that i read the end of the previous administration, just from your insight in years there. i don't know what you think of drawing radcliffe, the new head of the c i a year old. we used to work. how far is trump being undermined from the inside or is he being more undermined than usual or less? well, frankly, i don't feel is being undermined at all. i figure, i feel that he's appointed a group of lawyers who are paying fuel to you to him. and what really bothers me is they're going out of their way to do things that are in just as crow. and just as unconscionable as trump himself. so they can climb up the ladder or favortism in the cabinet. and you look at how secretary, se rubio, for example, who was confirmed 99, did nothing which i felt was absurd. he has switched a lot of those positions. he was a big backer of agency for international development. now he can't wait to take it
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over and he's been a part of the great thing is that they do as a id is being destroyed as well. it's, it's kind of, i saw a product that is being destroyed because if trump is talking about reading guys as the riviera, the middle east, the agency for international development would have to draw or something like that agency would have a huge role. don't really idea. i mean, tell me what you know about usa id, i mean sets out by the, under the kennedy administration. because certainly all our lives as far as i understand that have been undermined by us a id, whether it be the stabilization of democracy, is it seem to me and from what's being on co these to help a id, the stabilizing democracies. yeah, that's right. where, where are you getting that the mass financing of the media? i mean, what have you thought about the fact that it seems to be funding media certainly
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was across the say your a and different types of actions to be able to uh say back. yeah i, they, they were, i rarely been engaged in humanitarian, a, an infrastructure, a not in the compromising of media around the terry in a to explain to me what do you think can you manage area aid? because so as i understand is, and i travel quite a bit through africa and in the global south. usaid is just a sofa way of what pricing us had demonic power. and it's usually fun, at least in the mass killing of a 1000000 year year just they are buying into a propaganda line that you're hearing, i guess, in the global south that the russians are putting out for years. most of what a id does is you monetary and construction infrastructure, name me. so i'm just, i'm at, i'm only me, one thing i as well when i was in greece, the entire road network was built by a id for a wedge or a company that rece wouldn't have a logistics capability with that. okay, great. i think, okay, great. so tell me what about the you as to how i don't agree,
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i don't know of africa. how about all of africa? name a country and god in the health field and the humanity name, one country. and i'll tell you why that was actually to do a destabilizing democracy in that country. the greek tunnels. when you talk about the civic power, you're actually took away. i had nothing to do with the degree colonels. yeah, you're focusing on the wrong agent. so you're barking up the wrong one. so you thought it was the law just of the united states that went into go into greece. that's great. oh, that was that soft power. it's done for influence. it's done for trained. awful. is source power? oh you, what is the city a for who anyway i, what's the difference between what a id is doing and what john is doing with the b, r a and the other roma here to defend china? i'm attacking usa. i b as the whole year old has vastly. so you, you obviously have, know, i'm a one off frequently the name, a one global self leader who is complaining about trump destroying usa id when they are ethically you'd expect them to be saying, no, we really need this us. i,
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we weren't mansion, are they paying at all to what trump is joy? that's the more important thing. well, no attention is being paid. he's doing things that are incredibly malicious. who are the say i hear that aren't aware of the c. i an artist. how lovely, honestly i for are you even allowed me to speak or not? are we going to, are we gonna have a discussion or are you just going to interrupt me? how long would you at the c i a and was your chair, john hopkins, funded by usa id and anyway say that again was john hopkins university in receipt of any grounds from usa id does. hopkins university. i attended johns hopkins university. i teach now at johns hopkins university, they will rely on funding. okay. id. there is no funding for the hopkins gets, as it is far, it's military research components that are located off campus. and they're one of those,
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the largest receivers recipients. i think i hear that $300000000.00 usa id give john hopkins. says i said, who says that it's in the usa id file world. we have this information they were is on the johns hopkins university website. have a look at it. i think this is the problem with what trump is done to so many scholars who now realize their research, the defending usaa de, cuz technically you're in the pare down the tubes for usa. i do, you know, when they are defending or i'm not defending usa id, i'm trying to tell you what this factual situation is and you're spending a bunch of propaganda. that's all i'm hearing from you, regardless of the drum. and this is the, this information sites that are around the world, sorry, the from the, this is from your university website. the, during that the university has received it usa id money. while the infrastructure of the united states is pulling up a, which is
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a course where the trouble ministration today and come to think of it what the left says in the united states as well. let's, let's move to, let's move to is made lease policy them. and his hope you have for a factual basis. so in the middle east policy, everything i said was true usa id is a, gives grant aid to uh, to john helped a lot of us the largest money that hopkins gets from the government. that is in military aid is for research and the medical field. and such, so these are the telecommunications program with you and on top of and just hospital and healthcare incentive for communication programs is in receipt through usa id money. now it will be so presumably they'll shut down. and clearly if that propagandizing for you as a id and receiving money for it, probably not a bad idea. let's go to the middle, easy. she got, it is big, shutting down a id is a good thing. it's all for me to think it's a good thing or a bad thing, but it is for me to ask a question as to why on the us tax there was funding programs to destabilize
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democracy, you know, with all around the world, the federal budget is used by a id, i'm not even quarrelling about the magnitude, i'm saying why is one the best to answer the question. so i figured id of, do you know what you're talking about? if $1.00 goes there, it's $1.00 too much. you've seen your homelessness problem way. you can do the 40000000 that are on the food stamp. it's not the id. is there $14000000.00 in your country who can eat tonight without federal food aid and you're telling me it doesn't matter if i'm paying $50000000000.00 is being given to us and power and situations are in africa. that's what you're telling me. $40000000.00 in appropriations. as far as i understand is what you're asking me. $40000000000.00. it could be going to feed americans and go hungry tonight. okay. i'm not saying this from some isolated from this, you know, in between the war away. it's just, it's clear that the african countries don't one your money from what my experience is after visiting african countries or mama. i've been to africa to and they are
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grateful with name one country center. go send a goal. you've seen what's happened in the know years ago found the goal is in the i was cynical, is just rejected a subject. i don't think you know what you're talking about. let's go to an area your mortgage with the senegalese government is thrown out usaid on the i m f. loans, but we can't, we can't control the profit excess of africa any more than try it again or russia cad. well, it's so you can't blame that on. i think you just said that clearly because it was soft. patrick, i think you should look at what samantha power did over a 4 year period for jo bye. and then we could have a conversation. what do you think is the amenities i tell me about what do you think about a as well. i think she did her best. i wish she were a little more aggressive, but she tried to hold the organization together what it was under attack before she came into the binding administration. and she's definitely a humanist. she wrote an excellent book on genocide. i think she has good
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credentials. brock obama took her into the administration for a very good reasons and she stands head and shoulders above the typical bureaucrat, you're gonna see around the world because she has strong feelings about the amount of journey and a some of the power is a cheerleader for the war that is painfully only coming to an end. will you just let your body shut all but use most degree? the libya or individual is about why don't. why don't you talk about it. you have to pull those regimen libya and get off the propaganda. what does it propaganda? your speaking up and promoting samantha power, who now is under investigation? she's under investigation as i understand it for ford alleged fraud because of her personal finance. as far as performing her salary of usa idea, she's under investigation for fraud. i think the implication was there from the oval office using the past. you think you did? you see acacia ok. virus or mom about the power obviously you just said was taken
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up by a bama. so it's about the power was cheer leading. the invasion of libya and the destruction of the good that the government africans, which is per capita country, you supported that as well. i don't, i don't to attribute it to a i. d and the power. it's one of the power. no. no. is hillary clinton. uh it was, um, susan rice were pushing obama and it was a i think you need to look it up. it is commands, it is the amount of a let's go to buy them. story is best to prevent it. it is, it is clearly so that the battle, you don't like to say go with the new national defense. the national director of national intelligence is that she's been crazy, decided to translate into i'm not happy with that. yes. tell me, why did they tell me why you think that as well her trip to syria was a very good example of meeting with the side and then lying about how the meeting
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was set up and who was at the meeting. and she's denied that the russians were using a fighter aircraft in syria. and she repeated russian propaganda about the united states providing uh by a warfare instrumentation to ukraine. she's gone all over the lot, ideologically. i don't know what she really stands for, to turn over the intelligence community of 18 different agencies. this $82000000000.00 budget is just nonsense and it's just one of the miserable appointments. trump is made. whether you look at cash or tell and f b i or john radcliff did, c i a or type on the, the attorney general's office. it leaves elden at the environmental protection agency which will be turned back into what trump did to it in the 1st term. it's a disaster professor melvin goodman. i'll stop you that more from the pharmacy. i
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am listed as senior fellow at the center of international policy. under this break, [000:00:00;00] the lease of russian states never is as soon as the most sense community best of all sense and the in the system must be the one else calls. question about this, even though the and we will bend in the european union, the kremlin media mission,
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the state on the rush of funding and split the supposed net, keeping our video agency roughly all the band on youtube, the fitness center. for what question did you say a request for check the welcome back to going, undergoing necessarily with policy analysts and now professor of government to join options university professor melvin goodman. well, you guys saying that you don't like to see gavin's appointment by the senate. i don't know. no, i'm saying i don't like any of the appointments. i'm just putting tossing gabbert at the top of the list with the cash patel until he got his facility or no more. yeah, my favorite, here's my favorite, robert f. kennedy who's going to be running the health of human services along with
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dr. i also be running medicare and medicaid. these are people who are totally unqualified. i haven't, i haven't even mentioned did hex that you started out talking about with this. so called conversation be guides. yeah, and of course is absolutely fine and be, you know, into like the appointments. but clearly through the way the united states system works, they have to be confirmed by congressional appointments. and so they don't have to be confirmed. they can be denied conservation and if there was a serious republican party or not the people like uh, bill cassidy from louisiana, who's a physician and obviously forgot what the hippocratic oath is all about and wrote as far are f kennedy junior, whose own family does sound so you basically say the united states is rotten to the core. you know, i'm saying the trump ministration is rotten to the cord on the smell. yeah. but it has to be confirmed by congress. and it's clearly
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a democratic mandate. the trump and the both houses of congress, the have you on tuesday, guy, but you started off your desired language. you inquire is why don't you add the supreme court to that list of what trump controls i know even. and then i paging is this little picture of popular majority, but i have 3 people. he appointed the supreme court. yeah, he seemed to be painting a very dismal in the very business situation. and it has global implications because a recommendation is a good example. yeah, i want to get all drugs are in a 2nd, but just you made an allegation about to us a guy with a new national director of national intelligence to say to you, i have going you like area also gabbert. you said she shouldn't have gone to syria . why should she not have gone to syria? i didn't say she shouldn't have gone to syria. so well what i said, i see you. you don't listen. you talk so much that you don't hear what's being said to you as she lied about what happened in syria. she defended aside after her visit
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to syria. if she didn't acknowledge that she met with a terrorist while she was in syria, that's my problem. i, i'm in favor of person to person diplomacy. i'm in favor of talking to putting i'm in tech favor of talking to jason paying the conversations was putting which trump started like to this trade off of the hostage that allowed the release of mark fogel who shouldn't ever been jailed in the 1st place. but you do that by, by talking, this is something that motion she denies. i live as an eisenhower understood. and i think it was wrong for biden, to cut off all contacts with food and was z essentially because of ukraine or because of the director taiwan. we still have to keep talking. we have larger interest with the russians in china. so then you craned us, but she, obviously it was a guy with denies a in any way that she lied about it. and that i every day and think that she wants to, but she's not in direct or national intelligence. so, you know, she's,
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she's going to be able to and you know, the door lying and, oh no, i haven't used all that aspect on guys. uh, do you don't think it's refreshing from trump that we finally uh, on mosque would us policy the i'll give the b being to the palestinians for decades . bible and blinking were responsible for genocide. the names of synonymous with genocide across the global south. oh, within a few hours you're sure is, is more in the is really camp and by and never could be. absolutely. i mean, i don't think that can be, criticize that opinion, but he stopped the for a while, the aerial bombardment of guys or something that bite him. and harris was who stopped the aerial bombardment of kaiser donald trump for the cx. 5 a deal. see suffix who is the range because nothing out of who was not left with any targets. sorry. what are they bombing? they're there, but they're making that is uninhabitable. and there was none of the aerial but bob and stopped when trump has like,
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let me finish where i'm say. and that's why nothing. now who's smirking of the whole time, that trump and dale, this madness idea that we're going to take casa, we're going to kick all the palestinians out. and jordan and egypt are going to take that man as just the king of jordan. we'd be in a position to take in hundreds of thousands of palestinians. i don't think trump knows anything about gaza. he knows nothing about that naco knows nothing about palestinian displacement. going back to 1948 and not the entire world except for right wing jews. it is real, are highly supportive of what he's doing. i don't think anyone can get in 6. what you said do their best amount of charity? i don't think it was too much. yeah, but he was the policy. okay. yeah. most of the big dollars. do you know who we appointed as impassive or israel like tucker police. but i think anyone, what i didn't know was completely when, when would stop what's uh, i've tried to gauge how much you really understand this happy ever use the term
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palestinians. does he acknowledge the term post and you know, we have semester, we had donald trump's deputy assistant on this program. we were watching on mobile . he, he, he actually said to me on camera saying there's no such thing as a balanced any, but i think, go, well, no one can disagree with you about that. and when the influence of christian zionism and zion is among the trump administration, the fact is that the mask is off. we know what the plan is, am now he's talking about, of course the ethnic cleansing of guys in the united, the world. arguably in the kind of reinvigoration of the 2 state solution. you don't see anything to be got out of uh, obviously which one is on the surface uh something approaching the approaching nazi policy against the jews. i mean, if you're taking what trump is saying at face value, yes, of course it's appalling, but it's having effects that are not the effects that to those supporting it might
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. we should only effects that you see that are so good. egypt clearly now rejecting a meeting at the white house that was easy. jordan not accepting the displacement about his stuff, the other students, the entry plans there and down the median. they just delayed it the you a inside the arabian, both completely against the ethnic, cleansing van as is the whole and everyone everyone's against it. anyone who has any humanitarian sense it is against it. it's racism. it's part of the, to me, the genocidal campaign that's and your husband waging since october the 2nd. so you would prefer the cloak on under a person like blinking rather than that, oh you, you make you make these false comparisons. i, i've never supported blake and the secretary of state. that's never been my position tuesdays either. maybe tell me what the silver lining you can say that i'm going to finish what i started say. and if you want to keep talking while i'm talking, that's fine by me. but no one's been understand what either one of us to say by the
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through in the tao with israel when he went there in october the 15 and basically gave israel carte blanche. so you had our of american communities in place like michigan, the state of michigan, the city of deer board voted for a truck not realizing that trump will be worse for the palestinians than buying could ever be. because bite is at least a decent person. trump is incredibly on coast and supports the worst, and this is really policy. and this idea that i'm going to just take over, i'm going to take us, i'm not going to pay for nobody know us soldiers involved, which means is these rarely defense forces which have been conducting a year and a half of genocidal campaign will be in a position to do the what do they want a garza and while he's distracting us with that the is rarely is, are playing ethnic cleansing operations in the west bank. so nothing could be worse for the home community and the palestinian community. then the trump's real estate
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deal, and you'll have to keep in mind that this was a real estate deal for the beginning. if you look at trump real estate, billionaire, if you look at his son is sunday law parishioner real estate bill you there. if you look at the last is really bassinger, the israel under the 1st term, david friedman, real estate. i know you there. if you look at the special ed and boy, what cost? real estate billionaire. it says this to it's a trump is a transactional, real estate deal has nothing to do with the diplomacy, which he doesn't understand. we know that from the 1st term, the way he handled him, john hone in the way he dealt with the body. but he does think he knows real estate, so that's what we're say. he didn't discuss the plan with his own advisors. mike blogs, the national security adviser who was in over his head, knew nothing about it. the secretary of state, rubio knew nothing about it. uh,
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the intelligence community wasn't breached on what, what, what involved and what the consequences, what day it was a seat of the pants idea, and he's a seat of the pants. egomaniac, whose narcissism is going to create problems, not only for the united states, but for the entire global community. and i'm sure a potent education thing couldn't be happier, that they're gonna see it diminished america as a result of this administration for so for to sit there and quibble about what our obama administration did, or what a samantha powers did. oh, your lack of knowledge about a id is meaningless and i think you deal with what's happening in the global community today. just say, can i just say a lot of people agree? a lot of people watching the great you have had a supervisor quite a say here, a lot of people will be agreeing with a lot of what you've been saying. they won't agree with using bible is essentially decent. and if you're talking about that in get one of the other ways, which is the capital to country libya being destroyed compared to what trump is
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done and saying the trump should i use the same dialogue is important at the same time criticizing trump for me to give jonathan and somebody saying that the ukraine war under biden was better than the trump uh, put in relations uh before, before vitamins elected, who is michael domino. you you, you liked this guy, assistant secretary of defense for the middle east blog. i don't know him, but i've read him and it was a puzzling appointment because he seems rather rational to be a he wants a lower us presence less us visibility in the middle east. he's willing to reduce the us military presence around the world, which involves nearly $700.00 bases and operating sites and cut the sale of these russia has 2 bases in syria. china has one base on the owner of africa into booty. so he seems to make sense to me. i don't know how he slipped through. uh,
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the guardians of donald trump and made it into the pentagon. but as long as someone like hex it is the secretary defense, i don't expect anything good to come out of the pentagon anyway. clearly the most important to issue even above usa id is where is that good said is a resumption of start nuclear disarmament treaties. there is no more important issue facing any of us. i have nothing happens. the arms control expert in the trump administration. i'm just about to ask you. nothing obviously happened on the bible. harris jet aside. joe hall across stairs. nothing happened under obama. nothing happened to these people really the best. i hope you're wrong about obama. you don't know your facts about obama destroyed libya. pharmacy, you know it, destroy libby, advocates of yours. you're obsessed with libya. well, i think you've also said that there's no argument about that. anyway, just tell me what you think there are prospect of reviving. i mean, as far as i understand that there will be a trump, who's in meeting,
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do you think that there will be any progress on strategic alms limitation that affect every human being on this planet? as well as a drop is a, as opposed to reliance on nuclear weaponry. but i don't think he has the slash the patients uh to work out or no arms control position. i was at the salt on, i was the intelligence advisor to sophomore, and i was in vienna and 71 and 72. and your audience should understand how much work is involved and getting to an ars control agreement. the truck isn't prepared to do that kind of work. he has no arms control advisor. he has no arms control staff. it's not like the obama administration that renegotiate base the new start agreement to correct what you were saying about obama and arms control, which unfortunately,
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expires in january or february of next year. which worrisome is now china is building up to a position that could equal the united states and russia in terms of nuclear inventory. nuclear weapons have no utilitarian value whatsoever. the fact that these 3 nuclear powers are modernizing as we are, are expanding the way the china is, or threatening to put nuclear weapons in space. the way i phone is is why the bulging of atomic scientists as move there tuesday clock closer to midnight. this is a very serious issue, just like climate control was a series issue provides available good by out of time. thank you so much proof as well. the good news that's it for the show will be back with a brand new episode on saturday, and you'll then keep it just by the social media. if it's on the 10th of deal country, that to a channel going undergrads, you be on level, they'll come to us new and old episodes of going undergrads. he's having
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and i see worship option that this be so for ship. if we started, the critics will go straight and you want you to where it was today, he's going to your welski territory. so it is can say, is the natural logos of itself form a ship portion was it was there for you to talk about a foot bar stool nearby, shopping in gold. and if i say it is close, i use a car door to door and pull it off at ocean and continue when you go out and i get bully now, probably in the should the south be strong clear, but i still don't suck it to the south pole, so comfortable at the post and just got a snare grass kept bluish boys coming out on the bus, which is still going to me. so i'm on the policy coverage. the union goes to the local personally and i get to talk about it. there's dorski a whole bunch fundy wanted to circle comfortable the summer about on there not. i mean yeah,
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the desktop i do have both come model stuff. some of the the they defeated it by the long time they've done it before. oh, tom seemingly seeing the bigger picture as he says, piece holes of thought i may put it in will happen very soon, but i'll talk to you or if you and officials meantime losing it, washington leaves them out in the cold. concrete entrance becomes difficult. the grain of the remain neglected on the sidelines that the russians and americans planned for peace in the program. here on how to we take a deep dive on how the ruling elite him brussels on key of actually spoke to the
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